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« Reply #30 on: September 07, 2005, 03:16:00 PM »
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« Reply #31 on: September 16, 2005, 11:21:58 AM »
From an address by British MP George Galloway in May, 2005, to U.S. Senator Norm Coleman.

I told the world that Iraq, contrary to your claims, did not have weapons of mass destruction.

I told the world, contrary to your claims, that Iraq had no connection to al-Qaeda.

I told the world, contrary to your claims, that Iraq had no connection to the atrocity on 9/11/2001.

I told the world, contrary to your claims, that the Iraqi people would resist a British and American invasion of their country and that the fall of Baghdad would not be the beginning of the end, but merely the end of the beginning.

Senator, in everything I said about Iraq, I turned out to be right and you turned out to be wrong.  And 100,000 people paid with their lives; 1600 of them American soldiers sent to their deaths on a pack of lies; 15,000 of them wounded, many of them disabled forever on a pack of lies.
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You MUST read the whole thing - recent speech by Kerry
« Reply #32 on: September 21, 2005, 02:04:05 PM »
Senator John Kerry's Speech at Brown University, Providence, RI.

I want to thank you for what the Brown community has done to help and comfort the many victims of Hurricane Katrina. This horrifying disaster has shown Americans at their best -- and their government at its worst.

And that's what I've come to talk with you about today. The incompetence of Katrina's response is not reserved to a hurricane. There's an enormous
gap between Americans' daily expectations and government's daily performance. And the gap is growing between the enduring strength of the American people -- their values, their spirit, their imagination, their ingenuity, and their willingness to serve and sacrifice -- and the shocking weakness of the American government in contending with our country's urgent challenges.

On the Gulf Coast during the last two weeks, the depth and breadth of that gap has been exposed for all to see and we have to address it now before it is obscured again by hurricane force spin and deception. Katrina stripped away any image of competence and exposed to all the true heart and nature of this administration. The truth is that for four and a half years, real life choices have been replaced by ideological agenda, substance replaced by spin, governance second place always to politics.

Yes, they can run a good campaign -- I can attest to that -- but America needs more than a campaign. If 12 year-old Boy Scouts can be prepared,
Americans have a right to expect the same from their 59 year-old President of the United States.

Katrina reminds us that too often the political contests of our time have
been described like football games with color commentary: one team of consultants against another, red states against blue states, Democratic money against Republican money; a contest of height versus hair -sometimes.

But the truth is democracy is not a game; we are living precious time
each day in a different America than the one we can inhabit if we make
different choices.

Today, more than ever, when the path taken last year and four years
earlier takes us into a wilderness of missed opportunities -- we need to keep defining the critical choices over and over, offering a direction not
taken but still open in the future.

I know the President went on national television last week and accepted
responsibility for Washington's poor response to Katrina. That's admirable. And it's a first. As they say, the first step towards recovery is to get out of denial. But don't hold your breath hoping acceptance of
responsibility will become a habit for this administration.

On the other hand, if they are up to another "accountability moment" they ought to start by admitting one or two of the countless mistakes in conceiving, "selling", planning and executing their war of choice in Iraq.

I obviously don't expect that to happen. And indeed, there's every reason to believe the President finally acted on Katrina and admitted a mistake
only because he was held accountable by the press, cornered by events, and compelled by the outrage of the American people, who with their own
eyes could see a failure of leadership and its consequences.

Natural and human calamity stripped away the spin machine, creating a
rare accountability moment, not just for the Bush administration, but for
all of us to take stock of the direction of our country and do what we can to reverse it. That's our job -- to turn this moment from a frenzied
expression of guilt into a national reversal of direction. Some try to minimize the moment by labeling it a "blame game" -- but as I’ve said -this is no game and what is at stake is much larger than the incompetent and negligent response to Katrina.

This is about the broader pattern of incompetence and negligence that Katrina exposed, and beyond that, a truly systemic effort to distort and
disable the people's government, and devote it to the interests of the
privileged and the powerful. It is about the betrayal of trust and abuse of
power.

And in all the often horrible and sometimes ennobling sights and
sounds we've all witnessed over the last two weeks, there's another
sound just under the surface: the steady clucking of Administration chickens coming home to roost. We wouldn't be hearing that sound if the people in Washington running our government had cared to listen in the past.

They didn't listen to the Army Corps of Engineers when they insisted the levees be reinforced.

They didn't listen to the countless experts who warned this exact
disaster scenario would happen.

They didn't listen to years of urgent pleading by Louisianans about the
consequences of wetlands erosion in the region, which exposed New Orleans and surrounding parishes to ever-greater wind damage and flooding in a hurricane.

They didn't listen when a disaster simulation just last year showed
that hundreds of thousands of people would be trapped and have no way to evacuate New Orleans.

They didn't listen to those of us who have long argued that our insane
dependence on oil as our principle energy source, and our refusal to invest in more efficient engines, left us one big supply disruption away from skyrocketing gas prices that would ravage family pocketbooks, stall our economy, bankrupt airlines, and leave us even more dependent on foreign countries with deep pockets of petroleum.

They didn't listen when Katrina approached the Gulf and every newspaper
in America warned this could be "The Big One" that Louisianans had long
dreaded. They didn't even abandon their vacations.

And the rush now to camouflage their misjudgments and inaction with
money doesn’t mean they are suddenly listening. It's still politics as usual.
 
The plan they’re designing for the Gulf Coast turns the region into a vast
laboratory for right wing ideological experiments. They’re already talking
about private school vouchers, abandonment of environmental regulations, abolition of wage standards, subsidies for big industries - and believe it or not yet another big round of tax cuts for the wealthiest among us!

The administration is recycling all their failed policies and shipping
them to Louisiana. After four years of ideological excess, these Washington Republicans have a bad hangover -- and they can't think of anything to offer the Gulf Coast but the hair of the dog that bit them.

And amazingly -- or perhaps not given who we’re dealing with -- this
massive reconstruction project will be overseen not by a team of experienced city planners or developers, but according to the New York Times, by the Chief of Politics in the White House and Republican Party, none other than Karl Rove -- barring of course that he is indicted for "outing" an undercover CIA intelligence officer.

Katrina is a symbol of all this administration does and doesn't do.
Michael Brown -- or Brownie as the President so famously thanked him for doing a heck of a job - Brownie is to Katrina what Paul Bremer is to peace in Iraq; what George Tenet is to slam dunk intelligence; what Paul Wolfowitz is to parades paved with flowers in Baghdad; what Dick Cheney is to visionary energy policy; what Donald Rumsfeld is to basic war planning; what Tom Delay is to ethics; and what George Bush is to “Mission Accomplished” and "Wanted Dead or Alive." The bottom line is simple: The "we'll do whatever it takes" administration doesn't have what it takes to get the job done.

This is the Katrina administration.

It has consistently squandered time, tax dollars, political capital, and even risked American lives on sideshow adventures: A war of choice in Iraq
against someone who had nothing to do with 9/11; a full scale presidential
assault on Social Security when everyone knows the real crisis is in health care - Medicare and Medicaid. And that's before you get to willful
denial on global warming; avoidance on competitiveness; complicity in the loss and refusal of health care to millions.

Americans can and will help compensate for government's incompetence
with millions of acts of individual enterprise and charity, as Katrina has
shown. But that’s not enough. We must ask tough questions: Will this
generosity and compassion last in the absence of strong leadership? Will this Administration only ask for sacrifice in a time of crisis? Has
dishonesty in politics degraded our national character to the point that we feel our dues have been paid as citizens with a one-time donation to the Red Cross?

Today, let’s you and I acknowledge what’s really going on in this country.
The truth is that this week, as a result of Katrina, many children languishing in shelters are getting vaccinations for the first time. Thousands of adults are seeing a doctor after going without a check-up
for years. Illnesses lingering long before Katrina will be treated by a
healthcare system that just weeks ago was indifferent, and will soon be
indifferent again.

For the rest of the year this nation silently tolerates the injustice
of 11 million children and over 30 million adults in desperate need of
healthcare. We tolerate a chasm of race and class some would rather pretend does not exist. And ironically, right in the middle of this crisis the
Administration quietly admitted that since they took office, six million of our fellow citizens have fallen into poverty. That’s over ten times the evacuated population of New Orleans. Their plight is no less tragic - no less worthy of our compassion and attention. We must demand something simple and humane: healthcare for all those in need - in all years at all times.

This is the real test of Katrina. Will we be satisfied to only do the immediate: care for the victims and rebuild the city? Or will we be inspired to tackle the incompetence that left us so unprepared, and the societal injustice that left so many of the least fortunate waiting and praying on those rooftops?

That’s the unmet challenge we have to face together. Katrina is the background of a new picture we must paint of America. For five years our
nation's leaders have painted a picture of America where ignoring the poor has no consequences; no nations are catching up to us; and no pensions are destroyed. Every criticism is rendered unpatriotic. And if you say “War on Terror” enough times, Katrina never happens.

Well, Katrina did happen, and it washed away that coat of paint and
revealed the true canvas of America with all its imperfections. Now, we must stop this Administration from again whitewashing the true state of our challenges. We have to paint our own picture - an honest picture with
all the optimism we deserve - one that gives people a vision where no one is excluded or ignored. Where leaders are honest about the challenges we face as a nation, and never reserve compassion only for disasters.

Rarely has there been a moment more urgent for Americans to step up and define ourselves again. On the line is a fundamental choice. A choice
between a view that says “you’re on your own,” “go it alone,” or “every
man for himself.” Or a different view - a different philosophy - a
different conviction of governance - a belief that says our great American
challenge is one of shared endeavor and shared sacrifice.

Over the next weeks I will address some of these choices in detail -
choices about national security, the war in Iraq, making our nation more
competitive and committing to energy independence. But it boils down to this. I still believe America’s destiny is to become a living testament to what free human beings can accomplish by acting in unity. That’s easy to dismiss by those who seem to have forgotten we can do more together than just waging war.

But for those who still believe in the great tradition of Americans doing great things together, it’s time we started acting like it. We can never
compete with the go-it- alone crowd in appeals to selfishness. We can’t
afford to be pale imitations of the other side in playing the ‘what’s
in it for me’ game. Instead, it’s time we put our appeals where our hearts
are - asking the American people to make our country as strong, prosperous, and big-hearted as we know we can be - every day. It’s time we framed every question - every issue -- not in terms of what’s in it for ‘me,’ but what’s in it for all of us?

And when you ask that simple question - what’s in it for all of us? -
the direction not taken in America could not be more clear or compelling.

Instead of allowing a few oil companies to drill their way to windfall
profits, it means an America that understands we can’t drill our way to
energy independence, we have to invent our way there together.

Instead of making a mockery of the words No Child Left Behind when
China and India are graduating tens of thousands more engineers and PhDs than we are, it means an America where college education is affordable and accessible for every child willing to work for it.

Instead of tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans, it means an America
that makes smart investments in your future like funding the science and
research and development that will assure American technological leadership.

Instead of allowing lobbyists to rewrite our environmental laws, it
means an America where lakes and rivers and streams are clean enough that when a family takes the kids fishing, it’s actually safe to eat the fish they catch.

Instead of letting a few ideologues get in the way of progress that can
make us a stronger and healthier society, it means an America where the
biology students here today will do the groundbreaking stem cell research
tomorrow.

And instead of stubbornly disregarding intelligence, using force prematurely and shoving our allies aside, it means an America that restores its leadership in the world. An America that meets its responsibility of creating a world where the plagues of our time and future times - from terror to disease to poverty to weapons of mass destruction to the unknown - are overcome by allies united in common cause, and proud to follow American leadership.

That is the direction not taken but still open to us in the future if we answer that simple question - ‘what’s in it for all of us?’ It comes down to
the fact that the job of government is to prepare for your future - not ignore it. It should prepare to solve problems - not create them.

This Administration and the Republicans who control Congress give in to
special interests and rob future generations. Real leadership stands up
to special interests and sets the course for future generations. And the
fact is we do face serious challenges as a nation, and if we don’t address
them now, we handicap your future. My generation risks failing its
obligation of assuring you inherit a safer, stronger America. To turn this around, the greatest challenges must be the starting point. I hope Katrina gives us the courage to face them and the sense of urgency to beat them.

That’s why the next few months are such a critical time. You’ll read about
the Katrina investigations and fact-finding missions. You’ll get constant
updates on the progress rebuilding New Orleans and new funding for FEMA. Washington becomes a very efficient town once voters start paying
attention.

But we can’t let political maneuvering around the current crisis
distract people from the gathering, hidden crises - like energy, environment, poverty, healthcare and innovation - that present the greatest threats to our nation’s competitiveness and character. The effort to rebuild New Orleans cannot obscure the need to also rebuild our country.

So realistically, I’m sure you’re wondering: How do I change all this? What can I do? The answer is simple: you have to make your issues the voting issues of this nation. You’re not the first generation to face this
challenge.

I remember when you couldn’t even mention environmental issues without a snicker. But then in the 70’s people got tired of seeing the Cuyahoga River catch on fire from all the chemicals. So one day millions of Americans marched. Politicians had no choice but to take notice. Twelve Congressmen were dubbed the Dirty Dozen, and soon after seven were kicked out of office. The floodgates were opened. We got the Clean Air Act, The Clean Water Act and Safe Drinking Water. We created the EPA. The quality of life improved because concerned citizens made their issues matter in elections.

You are citizens in the greatest democracy in the world. Moments like
Katrina are so difficult - so painful - but they help you define your service to your fellow citizens. I’ll never forget as a teenager standing in a field in October of 1957 watching the first man made spacecraft streak across the night sky. The conquest, of course, was Soviet - and while not everyone got to see the unmanned craft pass overhead at 18,000 miles per hour that night - before long every American knew the name Sputnik. We knew we had been caught unprepared.

In the uncertain years thereafter, President Kennedy challenged Americans to act on that instinct. He said, "This is a great country, but I think it could be a greater country...the question we have to decide as
Americans," he said, is "are we doing enough today?"

Today, every American knows the name Katrina -- and once again we know our government was undeniably unprepared, even as Americans have shown their willingness to sacrifice to make up for it.

But in these uncertain weeks of Katrina's aftermath, we must ask ourselves not just whether a great country can be made greater -- the sacrifice and generosity of Americans these last weeks answered that question with a resounding yes.

No, our challenge is greater - it’s to speak out so loudly that Washington has no choice but to make choices worthy of this great country - choices
worthy of the sacrifice of our neighbors in the Gulf Coast and our troops
all around the world.

What's in it for all of us? Nothing less than the character of our country -
and your future.



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« Reply #33 on: September 21, 2005, 02:07:55 PM »
thanks for posting that, Mark... it's beautiful.
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« Reply #34 on: September 22, 2005, 08:36:16 AM »
I know not all of you are Arianna fans, but htis is exceerpted from her latest blog, ranting about the latest anti-pornography push by the Justice Dept.:

It took less than two weeks after the unveiling of Janet Jackson's right boob at the Super Bowl before the president's congressional cronies were holding hearings on the matter -- but it took 14 months before Bush caved to public pressure and allowed the 9/11 Commission to be formed. Again, you pick the real obscenity.

The latest example of misplaced priorities can be found in the administration's re-energized War on Porn, which includes the formation of an FBI squad exclusively devoted to cracking down on sexually explicit material involving consenting adults.

That's right, with the war on terror in full swing, our Commander-in-Chief is going to have a group of G-men doing nothing but working the porn beat when they could be tracking down -- oh, I don't know -- terrorist sleeper cells. Good to know he's got his eye on the prize.

I don't know about you, but I certainly feel safer knowing the feds are going to be keeping close tabs on Jenna Jameson and Peter North. Let's just hope the next round of al-Qaeda terrorists looking to attack the U.S. all have huge penises, an ample supply of Viagra, and enjoy having sex with silicone-enhanced babes.

This blast from our blue-nosed past has been labeled "one of the top priorities" of Attorney General Alberto Gonzales. Along with the     FBI's anti-porn squad, the AG has also created an Obscenity Prosecution Task Force in the Justice Department that will take prosecutors currently working on organized crime and racketeering, money laundering and computer crime cases, and have them shift their focus to the War on Porn. Real nice use of manpower, Alberto!

Of course, getting obscenity convictions in today's climate -- where Jenna Jameson's How to Make Love Like a Porn Star is a Times best-seller and GM, Rupert Murdoch, Time Warner, and all the big hotel chains are making a mint off sexually explicit movies -- won't be as easy as it was in Ed Meese's day.

The indecency of spending precious resources on making it harder to watch the Paris Hilton sexcapade has not been lost on federal and local law enforcement officials, who have reacted to the anti-porn push with a mixture of scorn and anger. The WaPo quotes an experienced national security analyst who calls the culture war initiative "a running joke for us," while the Daily Business Review cites high-level Justice Department sources saying that prosecutors are being assigned porn cases over their objections.

On the other hand, the president's born-again base is getting turned on by the initiative. For instance, the Family Research Council said it gave them "a growing sense of confidence in our new attorney general." Hmm, could this be the political equivalent of a Cialis Rx, giving Gonzales the boost he needs to become Bush's next Supreme Court nominee?

For the moral relativists in the Bush administration, the definition of sin seems to depend on whether the sinner can further their political purposes.

So Justin exposing Janet's boob is a sin, but White House staffers exposing Valerie Plame is a win. Profiting from porn is a sin, but Halliburton's wartime profiteering is a win. Two men getting hitched is a sin, but Tom DeLay and Jack Abramoff playing with each other's clubs is a win. And telling students condoms can prevent STDs is a sin, but lying about WMDs is a win.
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« Reply #35 on: September 22, 2005, 08:50:03 AM »
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For the moral relativists in the Bush administration, the definition of sin seems to depend on whether the sinner can further their political purposes.

So Justin exposing Janet's boob is a sin, but White House staffers exposing Valerie Plame is a win. Profiting from porn is a sin, but Halliburton's wartime profiteering is a win. Two men getting hitched is a sin, but Tom DeLay and Jack Abramoff playing with each other's clubs is a win. And telling students condoms can prevent STDs is a sin, but lying about WMDs is a win.

I don't think anyone could have distilled it any better than this.  Seems to me the "War on Porn" (which I was just reading about yesterday) is an attempt to get the Middle America religioright's minds off the Katrina debacle and back onto the things they think W and co. are doing right.  Shameless ... and shameful.
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« Reply #36 on: September 22, 2005, 08:51:02 AM »
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So Justin exposing Janet's boob is a sin, but White House staffers exposing Valerie Plame is a win. Profiting from porn is a sin, but Halliburton's wartime profiteering is a win. Two men getting hitched is a sin, but Tom DeLay and Jack Abramoff playing with each other's clubs is a win. And telling students condoms can prevent STDs is a sin, but lying about WMDs is a win.[/i]


she does have a way of turning a phrase, does Arianna.  Nice.
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« Reply #37 on: September 22, 2005, 08:51:06 AM »
Just printed Kerry's speech to read later. 8-1/2 pages 12pt.
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« Reply #38 on: September 22, 2005, 09:42:00 AM »
I really think Bush is about to become an extremely lame duck.  Here's why.

He actually lost the popular vote in 2000.  But he was blessed with the one thing that guarantees success for any weak leader: an external threat.  A monstrous, hateful "THEM" which we could all rally 'round the flag to oppose.  

He largely squandered that huge reservoir of goodwill, got us mired in Iraq & Afghanistan & narrowly won the 2004 election.  More people voted against him than the first time.  In the 10 months since, I guarantee you that not a single one of those voters who voted against him in November has changed their minds.  

Now we have this debacle in New Orleans.  And now Bush has the exact opposite of what he had 48 months ago:  a failure of government in the eyes of the voters to protect them, not from an external threat, but from the wrath of God.  Now more and more people see that the "THEM" which is threatening their well being isn't Al Qaeda, it's the Bush administration itself.

And now the wrath of God is bearing down on his mother.  If his administration has to deal with a disaster in the town where the airport is named after his dad, there's no way he can win.  If he does a great job people will still contrast it to Katrina & say, "See, you care more about Houston than New Orleans."  Kanye's words will ring truer still.  

And of course if they f*ck it up again....
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I hope this isn't a hoax
« Reply #39 on: September 28, 2005, 09:41:46 AM »
This just came thru the email list here at work:

BREAKING NEWS

House Majority Leader Tom DeLay indicted on one count of criminal
conspiracy by Texas grand jury, according to Travis County clerk's
office.

Oh please, lord....
Let's get right to it.

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Re: I hope this isn't a hoax
« Reply #40 on: September 28, 2005, 09:45:03 AM »
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This just came thru the email list here at work:

BREAKING NEWS

House Majority Leader Tom DeLay indicted on one count of criminal
conspiracy by Texas grand jury, according to Travis County clerk's
office.

Oh please....


when it rains, it pours -- literally & figuratively!

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2005/09/28/national/w093741D68.DTL
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« Reply #41 on: September 28, 2005, 10:41:06 AM »
He has officially stepped down as majority leader as of 30 minutes ago.

Yay, hope that f*cker gets nailed to the wall.
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« Reply #42 on: September 28, 2005, 10:53:25 AM »
Early results on the SF Gate poll:  What do you think about the Tom DeLay indictment?

About time! - 90%
Politically motivated - 5%
We won't know until the trial - 5%

I think even the SF Gate viewership isn't 90% progressive Democrat, so there's go to be at least a few Republicans saying 'about time!'.
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Re: I hope this isn't a hoax
« Reply #43 on: September 28, 2005, 03:29:50 PM »
Quote from: "urth"
This just came thru the email list here at work:

BREAKING NEWS

House Majority Leader Tom DeLay indicted on one count of criminal
conspiracy by Texas grand jury, according to Travis County clerk's
office.

Oh please, lord....


My sentiments exactly.  DeLay is, next to Rove, the most evilly dangerous person in America (W, while dangerous, is not evil so much as ignorant; various and sundry klansmen, while evil, are not nearly so dangerous these days).  The damage he has done to America, in terms of redefining American politics and thereby dismantling whatever faith the average American had in it, is incalculable.

P.S.  Been hearing lots of rumors about W being back on the sauce, or more intriguingly, resorting to the slopes, in recent weeks; anything substantiated?
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Re: I hope this isn't a hoax
« Reply #44 on: September 28, 2005, 04:11:40 PM »
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P.S.  Been hearing lots of rumors about W being back on the sauce, or more intriguingly, resorting to the slopes, in recent weeks; anything substantiated?


It's a pretty active rumor in DC (Letterman's actually joked about it in his monologue).  There's a thread about it on Outsports, which is where I first got wind of it.  I question whether he was ever "off the sauce", or if that was dreamed up as his excuse to be "born again" and thus pander to that crowd.
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