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Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: mshray on August 05, 2005, 09:11:41 AM
I think we need a thread like this in addition to the thread for Geoff's blog.

To start it off, today we have not one but two black eye's for the Right.

Robert Novak gets a long-overdue vacation!
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2005/08/04/entertainment/e163156D89.DTL

John Roberts = Gay Rights Advocate!
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2005/08/05/MNG72E3HMP1.DTL
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Gaz at da Voice on August 05, 2005, 11:03:57 AM
What's not clear to me about Novak's walkoff: Was he actually reacting against the timbre of that bit of conversation, or was that a pre-emptive dodge of Plame Wilson questions?  I think Bobbie Boy (surely W has a pet name for him, and surely it's something that insipid) has much to answer for either way, but I'm eager to hear from someone who actually watched that episode.
Title: Novak
Post by: ggould on August 05, 2005, 11:24:34 AM
Gawd I wish I was taping the Daily Show last night!  They actually played the unedited version of the CNN feed, where Novak actually says "bullshit" not once, but twice!  The second time in split screen where Jon Stewart reacts in mock shock to what he's just heard.  Hopefully someone will find a clip somewhere of the incident, unedited.
Title: Re: Novak
Post by: RGMike on August 05, 2005, 11:30:36 AM
Quote from: "ggould"
Gawd I wish I was taping the Daily Show last night!  They actually played the unedited version of the CNN feed, where Novak actually says "bullshit" not once, but twice!  The second time in split screen where Jon Stewart reacts in mock shock to what he's just heard.  Hopefully someone will find a clip somewhere of the incident, unedited.


last nite's DS is repeated tonite at 8pm.
Title: Re: Novak
Post by: ggould on August 05, 2005, 11:41:51 AM
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Quote from: "ggould"
Gawd I wish I was taping the Daily Show last night!  They actually played the unedited version of the CNN feed, where Novak actually says "bullshit" not once, but twice!  The second time in split screen where Jon Stewart reacts in mock shock to what he's just heard.  Hopefully someone will find a clip somewhere of the incident, unedited.
last nite's DS is repeated tonite at 8pm.

They usually censor that kind of thing on the repeat, since it's in primetime.  I will be camping anyway, but I guess I'd suggest watching it for others.  It's right at the top of the show, so you don't have to wait too long.  But there was a hilarious Steven Colbert piece where he interviews the original Cooter guy, and some others about our favorite new movie, the DOH.
Title: The Top 10 Conservative Idiots
Post by: ggould on August 05, 2005, 11:42:43 AM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/top10/05/208.html
Title: Re: Novak
Post by: RGMike on August 05, 2005, 11:46:32 AM
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Gawd I wish I was taping the Daily Show last night!  They actually played the unedited version of the CNN feed, where Novak actually says "bullshit" not once, but twice!  The second time in split screen where Jon Stewart reacts in mock shock to what he's just heard.  Hopefully someone will find a clip somewhere of the incident, unedited.
last nite's DS is repeated tonite at 8pm.

They usually censor that kind of thing on the repeat, since it's in primetime.  I will be camping anyway, but I guess I'd suggest watching it for others.  It's right at the top of the show, so you don't have to wait too long.  But there was a hilarious Steven Colbert piece where he interviews the original Cooter guy, and some others about our favorite new movie, the DOH.


I'll be interested to see if they censor it -- the first broadcast isn't live anyway, it's taped at around 6 in the evening NY time. I didn't know Com Central differentiated between 11pm and 8pm.
Title: Re: Novak
Post by: ggould on August 05, 2005, 11:59:03 AM
Quote from: "RGMike"
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Gawd I wish I was taping the Daily Show last night!  They actually played the unedited version of the CNN feed, where Novak actually says "bullshit" not once, but twice!  The second time in split screen where Jon Stewart reacts in mock shock to what he's just heard.  Hopefully someone will find a clip somewhere of the incident, unedited.
last nite's DS is repeated tonite at 8pm.
They usually censor that kind of thing on the repeat, since it's in primetime.  I will be camping anyway, but I guess I'd suggest watching it for others.  It's right at the top of the show, so you don't have to wait too long.  But there was a hilarious Steven Colbert piece where he interviews the original Cooter guy, and some others about our favorite new movie, the DOH.
I'll be interested to see if they censor it -- the first broadcast isn't live anyway, it's taped at around 6 in the evening NY time. I didn't know Com Central differentiated between 11pm and 8pm.

It's not that I thought the show was live, it's that they intentionally censor differently for the rebroadcast than for the first 11:00 PM broadcast.  I remember when they had the author of "On Bullshit" as the guest. Jon made a comment that if we were watching the rebroadcast, there would be a lot of bleeping.  They said 'bullshit' many, many times that night.
Title: Re: Novak
Post by: Lightnin' Rod on August 05, 2005, 12:11:28 PM
Quote from: "ggould"
Gawd I wish I was taping the Daily Show last night!  They actually played the unedited version of the CNN feed, where Novak actually says "bullshit" not once, but twice!  The second time in split screen where Jon Stewart reacts in mock shock to what he's just heard.  Hopefully someone will find a clip somewhere of the incident, unedited.


I was watching last night too.  Hilarious show.  The Dukes of Hazard piece had me rolling on the floor...
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: princessofcairo on August 05, 2005, 12:23:18 PM
i watched a program feauturing novak speaking with conservative students on wednesday. good thing he didn't pull any expletive tricks there!
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: mshray on August 10, 2005, 09:15:49 AM
Do you guys know who Dr. James C. Dobson is?  He is the founder of Focus on the Family, & the reason that none of us would probably ever want to be caught dead in Colorado Springs (an otherwise gorgeous town I visited before his ascendancy, home of the Garden of the Gods rock-climbing park & the Olympic training center).

For some reason he was ganted an 11th hour interview with serial killer Ted Bundy, who declared that it wasn't his own fault that he became a serial killer, it was because of...(wait for it)...

...pornography!

Dobson not only took Bundy at his word, he ate it up!   Focus on the Family markets the video of the interview on their website.  I am NOT making this up.

http://www.family.org/resources/itempg.cfm?itemid=932&refcd=OL04XPRRC&tvar=n
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Gazoo on August 10, 2005, 10:04:02 AM
Anyone got any naked pictures of Bundy to trade?
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on August 10, 2005, 10:07:32 AM
Quote from: "Gazoo"
Anyone got any naked pictures of Bundy to trade?


you are a sick sick boy. And that's why we like you.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on August 23, 2005, 07:43:40 AM
Pat Robertson sez: assassinate the prez (of Venezuela, that is):

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2005/08/22/national/a200632D93.DTL
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Gazoo on August 23, 2005, 08:25:47 AM
Quote from: "RGMike"
Pat Robertson sez: assassinate the prez (of Venezuela, that is):

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2005/08/22/national/a200632D93.DTL


You mean a conservative Christian isn't valuing A Culture Of Life over all?

That he still has a national pulpit after all he's said over these recent years is nothing short of dispiriting and dismaying, and I have to hold Christians accountable for keeping him visible.  The more reasonable Christian community needs to rise up and say, "Pat, you have got to go now.  WE ARE NOT WITH YOU."
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on August 23, 2005, 08:33:46 AM
Quote from: "Gazoo"
Quote from: "RGMike"
Pat Robertson sez: assassinate the prez (of Venezuela, that is):

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2005/08/22/national/a200632D93.DTL


You mean a conservative Christian isn't valuing A Culture Of Life over all?

That he still has a national pulpit after all he's said over these recent years is nothing short of dispiriting and dismaying, and I have to hold Christians accountable for keeping him visible.  The more reasonable Christian community needs to rise up and say, "Pat, you have got to go now.  WE ARE NOT WITH YOU."


I can't wait to see what Jon Stewart does with this story!  The "culture of life" thing is whatever they want it to be; when it is proven conclusively that being gay is genetic and can be predicted before birth, abortion will become "pre-partum ascension" or somesuch.

BOS2 Hollies! "On a Carousel".  Somebody covered this in the late '70s/early '80s but I can't remember who...
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: princessofcairo on August 23, 2005, 01:07:06 PM
someone sent me this today. it's more than a little frightening. the video download is legit - i mean, it's not a corrupted file, or anything. whether the fbi is tracking who downloads it, i know not. if you don't want to download the video (which is frightening in the "dr. strangelove" meets "the manchurian candidate" sort of way), check the written first person accounts. i only wonder what the military has in store for burning man next week.

> I've not seen this in the mainstream press, so thought you should  
> know of the attack on US citizens in Utah the other night.  Maybe to  
> pave the way for Bush's visit?
>
> Video:
>
> http://homepage.mac.com/apexgrin/FileSharing2.html
>
> First person accounts:
>
> http://utrave.org/showthread.php?t=20020&page=1&pp=10
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: urth on September 03, 2005, 12:10:39 PM
This could have gone in a number of threads,  but since I ranted about the right in the CG thread earlier, I thought this would work as well here as anywhere:

(http://www.uclick.com/client/wpc/db/db050903.gif)

ETA: Ah, crap. Guess I have a little HTML studying up to do. Well, go here:

http://www.uclick.com/client/wpc/db/

God save the Rascals.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Gazoo on September 05, 2005, 09:03:38 AM
Friends,

I got back from Montreal last night.  Had an absolutely incredible time but I can't bring myself to talk about it now that I'm learning of all the horrific Katrina fallout.  While on my press junket I had no internet access and didn't bother reading newspapers for several days.  Imagine finding out about 9/11 on 9/15.  People, I am speechless, beyond saddened, not sure at all where to begin in responding.  Except to say that Kanye West was absolutely right in his unscripted rant on the telethon thing.

I am so, so sorry, America.  Should I even call us united states anymore?
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: mshray on September 05, 2005, 10:01:48 AM
Quote from: "Gazoo"
Friends,

I got back from Montreal last night.  Had an absolutely incredible time but I can't bring myself to talk about it now that I'm learning of all the horrific Katrina fallout.  While on my press junket I had no internet access and didn't bother reading newspapers for several days.  Imagine finding out about 9/11 on 9/15.  People, I am speechless, beyond saddened, not sure at all where to begin in responding.  Except to say that Kanye West was absolutely right in his unscripted rant on the telethon thing.

I am so, so sorry, America.  Should I even call us united states anymore?


I'm in the same position.  Got back late last night & while in Huatulco had only heard that it was a bad hurricane and 'maybe over 100 dead'.  Not even close to what I'm finding out about now.
Title: being informed
Post by: ggould on September 05, 2005, 11:44:00 AM
Quote from: "mshray"
Quote from: "Gazoo"
Friends,

I got back from Montreal last night.  Had an absolutely incredible time but I can't bring myself to talk about it now that I'm learning of all the horrific Katrina fallout.  While on my press junket I had no internet access and didn't bother reading newspapers for several days.  Imagine finding out about 9/11 on 9/15.  People, I am speechless, beyond saddened, not sure at all where to begin in responding.  Except to say that Kanye West was absolutely right in his unscripted rant on the telethon thing.

I am so, so sorry, America.  Should I even call us united states anymore?
I'm in the same position.  Got back late last night & while in Huatulco had only heard that it was a bad hurricane and 'maybe over 100 dead'.  Not even close to what I'm finding out about now.

Sounds like you use the same news service of George W Bush!  {just kidding!} It's freakin' awesome to hear all this spin about how they had no idea how bad it was.  I heard on the news before the hurricane hit that if the levees break, the whole city was underwater.  But then again, I don't watch Fox News!
Title: Re: being informed
Post by: RGMike on September 05, 2005, 07:28:23 PM
Quote from: "ggould"
Quote from: "mshray"
Quote from: "Gazoo"
Friends,

I got back from Montreal last night.  Had an absolutely incredible time but I can't bring myself to talk about it now that I'm learning of all the horrific Katrina fallout.  While on my press junket I had no internet access and didn't bother reading newspapers for several days.  Imagine finding out about 9/11 on 9/15.  People, I am speechless, beyond saddened, not sure at all where to begin in responding.  Except to say that Kanye West was absolutely right in his unscripted rant on the telethon thing.

I am so, so sorry, America.  Should I even call us united states anymore?
I'm in the same position.  Got back late last night & while in Huatulco had only heard that it was a bad hurricane and 'maybe over 100 dead'.  Not even close to what I'm finding out about now.

Sounds like you use the same news service of George W Bush!  {just kidding!} It's freakin' awesome to hear all this spin about how they had no idea how bad it was.  I heard on the news before the hurricane hit that if the levees break, the whole city was underwater.  But then again, I don't watch Fox News!


Are you aware of the Rush Limbaugh/Sean Hannity story? Seems they were both pooh-pooh-ing the dire predictions in the day or two before the storm hit. It was "the liberal media trying to stir things up and cause panic" (Gee, FAUX, er, FOX News would never do that!).
I shudder to think of anyone who perished by not evacuating because Rush said there was nothing to worry about. No wonder he and Hannity are teaming up for a hurricane relief benefit.  Lawsuit, anybody?
Title: Re: being informed
Post by: Gazoo on September 05, 2005, 10:43:06 PM
Quote from: "RGMike"
Quote from: "ggould"
Quote from: "mshray"
Quote from: "Gazoo"
Friends,

I got back from Montreal last night.  Had an absolutely incredible time but I can't bring myself to talk about it now that I'm learning of all the horrific Katrina fallout.  While on my press junket I had no internet access and didn't bother reading newspapers for several days.  Imagine finding out about 9/11 on 9/15.  People, I am speechless, beyond saddened, not sure at all where to begin in responding.  Except to say that Kanye West was absolutely right in his unscripted rant on the telethon thing.

I am so, so sorry, America.  Should I even call us united states anymore?
I'm in the same position.  Got back late last night & while in Huatulco had only heard that it was a bad hurricane and 'maybe over 100 dead'.  Not even close to what I'm finding out about now.

Sounds like you use the same news service of George W Bush!  {just kidding!} It's freakin' awesome to hear all this spin about how they had no idea how bad it was.  I heard on the news before the hurricane hit that if the levees break, the whole city was underwater.  But then again, I don't watch Fox News!


Are you aware of the Rush Limbaugh/Sean Hannity story? Seems they were both pooh-pooh-ing the dire predictions in the day or two before the storm hit. It was "the liberal media trying to stir things up and cause panic" (Gee, FAUX, er, FOX News would never do that!).
I shudder to think of anyone who perished by not evacuating because Rush said there was nothing to worry about. No wonder he and Hannity are teaming up for a hurricane relief benefit.  Lawsuit, anybody?


As if things couldn't be worse, that's one thing I *hadn't* heard yet.

The sorrow is unspeakable right now.  I can't function on any level right now.
Title: Re: being informed
Post by: Gazoo on September 05, 2005, 10:51:13 PM
Quote from: "RGMike"
Are you aware of the Rush Limbaugh/Sean Hannity story? Seems they were both pooh-pooh-ing the dire predictions in the day or two before the storm hit. It was "the liberal media trying to stir things up and cause panic" (Gee, FAUX, er, FOX News would never do that!).
I shudder to think of anyone who perished by not evacuating because Rush said there was nothing to worry about. No wonder he and Hannity are teaming up for a hurricane relief benefit.  Lawsuit, anybody?


Important P.S.: Anyone who did not heed the evacuation warnings, whether out of choice or out of necessity, does not deserve the sanctimony that has come their way from all too many pundits.  IT DOES NOT MATTER why they stayed: AMERICA FAILED THEM, AND CONTINUES TO FAIL THEM.  A national lie comes home, proving once and for all that America is indeed essentially a caste system.  We've avoid the discussion of class for far too long, that discussion being inextricably intertwined with race in America, but now we shall have it, like it or not.

And it is very, very hard to return to writing about music and gay sports in the midst of the dissolution of the national lie.  I am honestly having trouble bearing up, people.  "God" has forsaken those who believed in God most fervently.
Title: Out of touch
Post by: Alicat on September 07, 2005, 09:28:52 AM
The Sr. Mrs. Bush said yesterday that since the majority of Katrina evacuees now in Texas were underemployed to begin with, they weren't faring too badly now. Here exact words sounded worse.

Geez! Bush PR people are working hard to spin this one.
Title: Re: Out of touch
Post by: Gazoo on September 07, 2005, 09:34:27 AM
Quote from: "Alicat"
The Sr. Mrs. Bush said yesterday that since the majority of Katrina evacuees now in Texas were underemployed to begin with, they weren't faring too badly now. Here exact words sounded worse.

Geez! Bush PR people are working hard to spin this one.


Yeah, Babs's line was something like, "Since they were already underprivileged, this is working out pretty well for them."  I so wish I could have slugged her in the face.  The Great American Lie comes home to roost.
Title: Re: Out of touch
Post by: urth on September 07, 2005, 09:51:16 AM
Quote from: "Gazoo"
Quote from: "Alicat"
The Sr. Mrs. Bush said yesterday that since the majority of Katrina evacuees now in Texas were underemployed to begin with, they weren't faring too badly now. Here exact words sounded worse.

Geez! Bush PR people are working hard to spin this one.


Yeah, Babs's line was something like, "Since they were already underprivileged, this is working out pretty well for them."  I so wish I could have slugged her in the face.  The Great American Lie comes home to roost.


Perhaps explains a bit about how GW ended up as such an a**hole.

The a**hole doesn't fall far from the tree?
Title: Re: Out of touch
Post by: RGMike on September 07, 2005, 09:55:08 AM
Quote from: "urth"
Quote from: "Gazoo"
Quote from: "Alicat"
The Sr. Mrs. Bush said yesterday that since the majority of Katrina evacuees now in Texas were underemployed to begin with, they weren't faring too badly now. Here exact words sounded worse.

Geez! Bush PR people are working hard to spin this one.


Yeah, Babs's line was something like, "Since they were already underprivileged, this is working out pretty well for them."  I so wish I could have slugged her in the face.  The Great American Lie comes home to roost.


Perhaps explains a bit about how GW ended up as such an a**hole.

The a**hole doesn't fall far from the tree?


the applehole? :wink:

Beneath her grandmotherly facade, Mrs Bush is pure patrician. Facades sure do crumble during hurricanes & floods...
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on September 07, 2005, 02:36:23 PM
Poor Scott McClellan... between Rove, his boss, and his boss' mother, his head may just explode:

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2005/09/07/national/w130512D09.DTL
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Gazoo on September 07, 2005, 02:51:40 PM
I nominate McClellan for first in line at the seppuku queue.

Right after I finish pummeling Barbara Bush, that fucking half-wit hag.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on September 07, 2005, 03:16:00 PM
Quote from: "Gazoo"
seppuku queue


That'd be a GREAT band name.

Quote from: "Gazoo"
Right after I finish pummeling Barbara Bush, that fucking half-wit hag.


TANC: Just heard "Neutron Dance" on 'LNG and this line jumped right out of the radio: "all the common people breathing filthy air..."[/quote]
Title: Quote of the Day
Post by: mshray on September 16, 2005, 11:21:58 AM
From an address by British MP George Galloway in May, 2005, to U.S. Senator Norm Coleman.

I told the world that Iraq, contrary to your claims, did not have weapons of mass destruction.

I told the world, contrary to your claims, that Iraq had no connection to al-Qaeda.

I told the world, contrary to your claims, that Iraq had no connection to the atrocity on 9/11/2001.

I told the world, contrary to your claims, that the Iraqi people would resist a British and American invasion of their country and that the fall of Baghdad would not be the beginning of the end, but merely the end of the beginning.

Senator, in everything I said about Iraq, I turned out to be right and you turned out to be wrong.  And 100,000 people paid with their lives; 1600 of them American soldiers sent to their deaths on a pack of lies; 15,000 of them wounded, many of them disabled forever on a pack of lies.
Title: You MUST read the whole thing - recent speech by Kerry
Post by: mshray on September 21, 2005, 02:04:05 PM
Senator John Kerry's Speech at Brown University, Providence, RI.

I want to thank you for what the Brown community has done to help and comfort the many victims of Hurricane Katrina. This horrifying disaster has shown Americans at their best -- and their government at its worst.

And that's what I've come to talk with you about today. The incompetence of Katrina's response is not reserved to a hurricane. There's an enormous
gap between Americans' daily expectations and government's daily performance. And the gap is growing between the enduring strength of the American people -- their values, their spirit, their imagination, their ingenuity, and their willingness to serve and sacrifice -- and the shocking weakness of the American government in contending with our country's urgent challenges.

On the Gulf Coast during the last two weeks, the depth and breadth of that gap has been exposed for all to see and we have to address it now before it is obscured again by hurricane force spin and deception. Katrina stripped away any image of competence and exposed to all the true heart and nature of this administration. The truth is that for four and a half years, real life choices have been replaced by ideological agenda, substance replaced by spin, governance second place always to politics.

Yes, they can run a good campaign -- I can attest to that -- but America needs more than a campaign. If 12 year-old Boy Scouts can be prepared,
Americans have a right to expect the same from their 59 year-old President of the United States.

Katrina reminds us that too often the political contests of our time have
been described like football games with color commentary: one team of consultants against another, red states against blue states, Democratic money against Republican money; a contest of height versus hair -sometimes.

But the truth is democracy is not a game; we are living precious time
each day in a different America than the one we can inhabit if we make
different choices.

Today, more than ever, when the path taken last year and four years
earlier takes us into a wilderness of missed opportunities -- we need to keep defining the critical choices over and over, offering a direction not
taken but still open in the future.

I know the President went on national television last week and accepted
responsibility for Washington's poor response to Katrina. That's admirable. And it's a first. As they say, the first step towards recovery is to get out of denial. But don't hold your breath hoping acceptance of
responsibility will become a habit for this administration.

On the other hand, if they are up to another "accountability moment" they ought to start by admitting one or two of the countless mistakes in conceiving, "selling", planning and executing their war of choice in Iraq.

I obviously don't expect that to happen. And indeed, there's every reason to believe the President finally acted on Katrina and admitted a mistake
only because he was held accountable by the press, cornered by events, and compelled by the outrage of the American people, who with their own
eyes could see a failure of leadership and its consequences.

Natural and human calamity stripped away the spin machine, creating a
rare accountability moment, not just for the Bush administration, but for
all of us to take stock of the direction of our country and do what we can to reverse it. That's our job -- to turn this moment from a frenzied
expression of guilt into a national reversal of direction. Some try to minimize the moment by labeling it a "blame game" -- but as I’ve said -this is no game and what is at stake is much larger than the incompetent and negligent response to Katrina.

This is about the broader pattern of incompetence and negligence that Katrina exposed, and beyond that, a truly systemic effort to distort and
disable the people's government, and devote it to the interests of the
privileged and the powerful. It is about the betrayal of trust and abuse of
power.

And in all the often horrible and sometimes ennobling sights and
sounds we've all witnessed over the last two weeks, there's another
sound just under the surface: the steady clucking of Administration chickens coming home to roost. We wouldn't be hearing that sound if the people in Washington running our government had cared to listen in the past.

They didn't listen to the Army Corps of Engineers when they insisted the levees be reinforced.

They didn't listen to the countless experts who warned this exact
disaster scenario would happen.

They didn't listen to years of urgent pleading by Louisianans about the
consequences of wetlands erosion in the region, which exposed New Orleans and surrounding parishes to ever-greater wind damage and flooding in a hurricane.

They didn't listen when a disaster simulation just last year showed
that hundreds of thousands of people would be trapped and have no way to evacuate New Orleans.

They didn't listen to those of us who have long argued that our insane
dependence on oil as our principle energy source, and our refusal to invest in more efficient engines, left us one big supply disruption away from skyrocketing gas prices that would ravage family pocketbooks, stall our economy, bankrupt airlines, and leave us even more dependent on foreign countries with deep pockets of petroleum.

They didn't listen when Katrina approached the Gulf and every newspaper
in America warned this could be "The Big One" that Louisianans had long
dreaded. They didn't even abandon their vacations.

And the rush now to camouflage their misjudgments and inaction with
money doesn’t mean they are suddenly listening. It's still politics as usual.
 
The plan they’re designing for the Gulf Coast turns the region into a vast
laboratory for right wing ideological experiments. They’re already talking
about private school vouchers, abandonment of environmental regulations, abolition of wage standards, subsidies for big industries - and believe it or not yet another big round of tax cuts for the wealthiest among us!

The administration is recycling all their failed policies and shipping
them to Louisiana. After four years of ideological excess, these Washington Republicans have a bad hangover -- and they can't think of anything to offer the Gulf Coast but the hair of the dog that bit them.

And amazingly -- or perhaps not given who we’re dealing with -- this
massive reconstruction project will be overseen not by a team of experienced city planners or developers, but according to the New York Times, by the Chief of Politics in the White House and Republican Party, none other than Karl Rove -- barring of course that he is indicted for "outing" an undercover CIA intelligence officer.

Katrina is a symbol of all this administration does and doesn't do.
Michael Brown -- or Brownie as the President so famously thanked him for doing a heck of a job - Brownie is to Katrina what Paul Bremer is to peace in Iraq; what George Tenet is to slam dunk intelligence; what Paul Wolfowitz is to parades paved with flowers in Baghdad; what Dick Cheney is to visionary energy policy; what Donald Rumsfeld is to basic war planning; what Tom Delay is to ethics; and what George Bush is to “Mission Accomplished” and "Wanted Dead or Alive." The bottom line is simple: The "we'll do whatever it takes" administration doesn't have what it takes to get the job done.

This is the Katrina administration.

It has consistently squandered time, tax dollars, political capital, and even risked American lives on sideshow adventures: A war of choice in Iraq
against someone who had nothing to do with 9/11; a full scale presidential
assault on Social Security when everyone knows the real crisis is in health care - Medicare and Medicaid. And that's before you get to willful
denial on global warming; avoidance on competitiveness; complicity in the loss and refusal of health care to millions.

Americans can and will help compensate for government's incompetence
with millions of acts of individual enterprise and charity, as Katrina has
shown. But that’s not enough. We must ask tough questions: Will this
generosity and compassion last in the absence of strong leadership? Will this Administration only ask for sacrifice in a time of crisis? Has
dishonesty in politics degraded our national character to the point that we feel our dues have been paid as citizens with a one-time donation to the Red Cross?

Today, let’s you and I acknowledge what’s really going on in this country.
The truth is that this week, as a result of Katrina, many children languishing in shelters are getting vaccinations for the first time. Thousands of adults are seeing a doctor after going without a check-up
for years. Illnesses lingering long before Katrina will be treated by a
healthcare system that just weeks ago was indifferent, and will soon be
indifferent again.

For the rest of the year this nation silently tolerates the injustice
of 11 million children and over 30 million adults in desperate need of
healthcare. We tolerate a chasm of race and class some would rather pretend does not exist. And ironically, right in the middle of this crisis the
Administration quietly admitted that since they took office, six million of our fellow citizens have fallen into poverty. That’s over ten times the evacuated population of New Orleans. Their plight is no less tragic - no less worthy of our compassion and attention. We must demand something simple and humane: healthcare for all those in need - in all years at all times.

This is the real test of Katrina. Will we be satisfied to only do the immediate: care for the victims and rebuild the city? Or will we be inspired to tackle the incompetence that left us so unprepared, and the societal injustice that left so many of the least fortunate waiting and praying on those rooftops?

That’s the unmet challenge we have to face together. Katrina is the background of a new picture we must paint of America. For five years our
nation's leaders have painted a picture of America where ignoring the poor has no consequences; no nations are catching up to us; and no pensions are destroyed. Every criticism is rendered unpatriotic. And if you say “War on Terror” enough times, Katrina never happens.

Well, Katrina did happen, and it washed away that coat of paint and
revealed the true canvas of America with all its imperfections. Now, we must stop this Administration from again whitewashing the true state of our challenges. We have to paint our own picture - an honest picture with
all the optimism we deserve - one that gives people a vision where no one is excluded or ignored. Where leaders are honest about the challenges we face as a nation, and never reserve compassion only for disasters.

Rarely has there been a moment more urgent for Americans to step up and define ourselves again. On the line is a fundamental choice. A choice
between a view that says “you’re on your own,” “go it alone,” or “every
man for himself.” Or a different view - a different philosophy - a
different conviction of governance - a belief that says our great American
challenge is one of shared endeavor and shared sacrifice.

Over the next weeks I will address some of these choices in detail -
choices about national security, the war in Iraq, making our nation more
competitive and committing to energy independence. But it boils down to this. I still believe America’s destiny is to become a living testament to what free human beings can accomplish by acting in unity. That’s easy to dismiss by those who seem to have forgotten we can do more together than just waging war.

But for those who still believe in the great tradition of Americans doing great things together, it’s time we started acting like it. We can never
compete with the go-it- alone crowd in appeals to selfishness. We can’t
afford to be pale imitations of the other side in playing the ‘what’s
in it for me’ game. Instead, it’s time we put our appeals where our hearts
are - asking the American people to make our country as strong, prosperous, and big-hearted as we know we can be - every day. It’s time we framed every question - every issue -- not in terms of what’s in it for ‘me,’ but what’s in it for all of us?

And when you ask that simple question - what’s in it for all of us? -
the direction not taken in America could not be more clear or compelling.

Instead of allowing a few oil companies to drill their way to windfall
profits, it means an America that understands we can’t drill our way to
energy independence, we have to invent our way there together.

Instead of making a mockery of the words No Child Left Behind when
China and India are graduating tens of thousands more engineers and PhDs than we are, it means an America where college education is affordable and accessible for every child willing to work for it.

Instead of tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans, it means an America
that makes smart investments in your future like funding the science and
research and development that will assure American technological leadership.

Instead of allowing lobbyists to rewrite our environmental laws, it
means an America where lakes and rivers and streams are clean enough that when a family takes the kids fishing, it’s actually safe to eat the fish they catch.

Instead of letting a few ideologues get in the way of progress that can
make us a stronger and healthier society, it means an America where the
biology students here today will do the groundbreaking stem cell research
tomorrow.

And instead of stubbornly disregarding intelligence, using force prematurely and shoving our allies aside, it means an America that restores its leadership in the world. An America that meets its responsibility of creating a world where the plagues of our time and future times - from terror to disease to poverty to weapons of mass destruction to the unknown - are overcome by allies united in common cause, and proud to follow American leadership.

That is the direction not taken but still open to us in the future if we answer that simple question - ‘what’s in it for all of us?’ It comes down to
the fact that the job of government is to prepare for your future - not ignore it. It should prepare to solve problems - not create them.

This Administration and the Republicans who control Congress give in to
special interests and rob future generations. Real leadership stands up
to special interests and sets the course for future generations. And the
fact is we do face serious challenges as a nation, and if we don’t address
them now, we handicap your future. My generation risks failing its
obligation of assuring you inherit a safer, stronger America. To turn this around, the greatest challenges must be the starting point. I hope Katrina gives us the courage to face them and the sense of urgency to beat them.

That’s why the next few months are such a critical time. You’ll read about
the Katrina investigations and fact-finding missions. You’ll get constant
updates on the progress rebuilding New Orleans and new funding for FEMA. Washington becomes a very efficient town once voters start paying
attention.

But we can’t let political maneuvering around the current crisis
distract people from the gathering, hidden crises - like energy, environment, poverty, healthcare and innovation - that present the greatest threats to our nation’s competitiveness and character. The effort to rebuild New Orleans cannot obscure the need to also rebuild our country.

So realistically, I’m sure you’re wondering: How do I change all this? What can I do? The answer is simple: you have to make your issues the voting issues of this nation. You’re not the first generation to face this
challenge.

I remember when you couldn’t even mention environmental issues without a snicker. But then in the 70’s people got tired of seeing the Cuyahoga River catch on fire from all the chemicals. So one day millions of Americans marched. Politicians had no choice but to take notice. Twelve Congressmen were dubbed the Dirty Dozen, and soon after seven were kicked out of office. The floodgates were opened. We got the Clean Air Act, The Clean Water Act and Safe Drinking Water. We created the EPA. The quality of life improved because concerned citizens made their issues matter in elections.

You are citizens in the greatest democracy in the world. Moments like
Katrina are so difficult - so painful - but they help you define your service to your fellow citizens. I’ll never forget as a teenager standing in a field in October of 1957 watching the first man made spacecraft streak across the night sky. The conquest, of course, was Soviet - and while not everyone got to see the unmanned craft pass overhead at 18,000 miles per hour that night - before long every American knew the name Sputnik. We knew we had been caught unprepared.

In the uncertain years thereafter, President Kennedy challenged Americans to act on that instinct. He said, "This is a great country, but I think it could be a greater country...the question we have to decide as
Americans," he said, is "are we doing enough today?"

Today, every American knows the name Katrina -- and once again we know our government was undeniably unprepared, even as Americans have shown their willingness to sacrifice to make up for it.

But in these uncertain weeks of Katrina's aftermath, we must ask ourselves not just whether a great country can be made greater -- the sacrifice and generosity of Americans these last weeks answered that question with a resounding yes.

No, our challenge is greater - it’s to speak out so loudly that Washington has no choice but to make choices worthy of this great country - choices
worthy of the sacrifice of our neighbors in the Gulf Coast and our troops
all around the world.

What's in it for all of us? Nothing less than the character of our country -
and your future.



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Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on September 21, 2005, 02:07:55 PM
thanks for posting that, Mark... it's beautiful.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: mshray on September 22, 2005, 08:36:16 AM
I know not all of you are Arianna fans, but htis is exceerpted from her latest blog, ranting about the latest anti-pornography push by the Justice Dept.:

It took less than two weeks after the unveiling of Janet Jackson's right boob at the Super Bowl before the president's congressional cronies were holding hearings on the matter -- but it took 14 months before Bush caved to public pressure and allowed the 9/11 Commission to be formed. Again, you pick the real obscenity.

The latest example of misplaced priorities can be found in the administration's re-energized War on Porn, which includes the formation of an FBI squad exclusively devoted to cracking down on sexually explicit material involving consenting adults.

That's right, with the war on terror in full swing, our Commander-in-Chief is going to have a group of G-men doing nothing but working the porn beat when they could be tracking down -- oh, I don't know -- terrorist sleeper cells. Good to know he's got his eye on the prize.

I don't know about you, but I certainly feel safer knowing the feds are going to be keeping close tabs on Jenna Jameson and Peter North. Let's just hope the next round of al-Qaeda terrorists looking to attack the U.S. all have huge penises, an ample supply of Viagra, and enjoy having sex with silicone-enhanced babes.

This blast from our blue-nosed past has been labeled "one of the top priorities" of Attorney General Alberto Gonzales. Along with the     FBI's anti-porn squad, the AG has also created an Obscenity Prosecution Task Force in the Justice Department that will take prosecutors currently working on organized crime and racketeering, money laundering and computer crime cases, and have them shift their focus to the War on Porn. Real nice use of manpower, Alberto!

Of course, getting obscenity convictions in today's climate -- where Jenna Jameson's How to Make Love Like a Porn Star is a Times best-seller and GM, Rupert Murdoch, Time Warner, and all the big hotel chains are making a mint off sexually explicit movies -- won't be as easy as it was in Ed Meese's day.

The indecency of spending precious resources on making it harder to watch the Paris Hilton sexcapade has not been lost on federal and local law enforcement officials, who have reacted to the anti-porn push with a mixture of scorn and anger. The WaPo quotes an experienced national security analyst who calls the culture war initiative "a running joke for us," while the Daily Business Review cites high-level Justice Department sources saying that prosecutors are being assigned porn cases over their objections.

On the other hand, the president's born-again base is getting turned on by the initiative. For instance, the Family Research Council said it gave them "a growing sense of confidence in our new attorney general." Hmm, could this be the political equivalent of a Cialis Rx, giving Gonzales the boost he needs to become Bush's next Supreme Court nominee?

For the moral relativists in the Bush administration, the definition of sin seems to depend on whether the sinner can further their political purposes.

So Justin exposing Janet's boob is a sin, but White House staffers exposing Valerie Plame is a win. Profiting from porn is a sin, but Halliburton's wartime profiteering is a win. Two men getting hitched is a sin, but Tom DeLay and Jack Abramoff playing with each other's clubs is a win. And telling students condoms can prevent STDs is a sin, but lying about WMDs is a win.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Gazoo on September 22, 2005, 08:50:03 AM
Quote from: "mshray"
For the moral relativists in the Bush administration, the definition of sin seems to depend on whether the sinner can further their political purposes.

So Justin exposing Janet's boob is a sin, but White House staffers exposing Valerie Plame is a win. Profiting from porn is a sin, but Halliburton's wartime profiteering is a win. Two men getting hitched is a sin, but Tom DeLay and Jack Abramoff playing with each other's clubs is a win. And telling students condoms can prevent STDs is a sin, but lying about WMDs is a win.

I don't think anyone could have distilled it any better than this.  Seems to me the "War on Porn" (which I was just reading about yesterday) is an attempt to get the Middle America religioright's minds off the Katrina debacle and back onto the things they think W and co. are doing right.  Shameless ... and shameful.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on September 22, 2005, 08:51:02 AM
Quote from: "mshray"
So Justin exposing Janet's boob is a sin, but White House staffers exposing Valerie Plame is a win. Profiting from porn is a sin, but Halliburton's wartime profiteering is a win. Two men getting hitched is a sin, but Tom DeLay and Jack Abramoff playing with each other's clubs is a win. And telling students condoms can prevent STDs is a sin, but lying about WMDs is a win.[/i]


she does have a way of turning a phrase, does Arianna.  Nice.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Alicat on September 22, 2005, 08:51:06 AM
Just printed Kerry's speech to read later. 8-1/2 pages 12pt.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: mshray on September 22, 2005, 09:42:00 AM
I really think Bush is about to become an extremely lame duck.  Here's why.

He actually lost the popular vote in 2000.  But he was blessed with the one thing that guarantees success for any weak leader: an external threat.  A monstrous, hateful "THEM" which we could all rally 'round the flag to oppose.  

He largely squandered that huge reservoir of goodwill, got us mired in Iraq & Afghanistan & narrowly won the 2004 election.  More people voted against him than the first time.  In the 10 months since, I guarantee you that not a single one of those voters who voted against him in November has changed their minds.  

Now we have this debacle in New Orleans.  And now Bush has the exact opposite of what he had 48 months ago:  a failure of government in the eyes of the voters to protect them, not from an external threat, but from the wrath of God.  Now more and more people see that the "THEM" which is threatening their well being isn't Al Qaeda, it's the Bush administration itself.

And now the wrath of God is bearing down on his mother.  If his administration has to deal with a disaster in the town where the airport is named after his dad, there's no way he can win.  If he does a great job people will still contrast it to Katrina & say, "See, you care more about Houston than New Orleans."  Kanye's words will ring truer still.  

And of course if they f*ck it up again....
Title: I hope this isn't a hoax
Post by: urth on September 28, 2005, 09:41:46 AM
This just came thru the email list here at work:

BREAKING NEWS

House Majority Leader Tom DeLay indicted on one count of criminal
conspiracy by Texas grand jury, according to Travis County clerk's
office.

Oh please, lord....
Title: Re: I hope this isn't a hoax
Post by: RGMike on September 28, 2005, 09:45:03 AM
Quote from: "urth"
This just came thru the email list here at work:

BREAKING NEWS

House Majority Leader Tom DeLay indicted on one count of criminal
conspiracy by Texas grand jury, according to Travis County clerk's
office.

Oh please....


when it rains, it pours -- literally & figuratively!

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2005/09/28/national/w093741D68.DTL
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: mshray on September 28, 2005, 10:41:06 AM
He has officially stepped down as majority leader as of 30 minutes ago.

Yay, hope that f*cker gets nailed to the wall.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: mshray on September 28, 2005, 10:53:25 AM
Early results on the SF Gate poll:  What do you think about the Tom DeLay indictment?

About time! - 90%
Politically motivated - 5%
We won't know until the trial - 5%

I think even the SF Gate viewership isn't 90% progressive Democrat, so there's go to be at least a few Republicans saying 'about time!'.
Title: Re: I hope this isn't a hoax
Post by: Gazoo on September 28, 2005, 03:29:50 PM
Quote from: "urth"
This just came thru the email list here at work:

BREAKING NEWS

House Majority Leader Tom DeLay indicted on one count of criminal
conspiracy by Texas grand jury, according to Travis County clerk's
office.

Oh please, lord....


My sentiments exactly.  DeLay is, next to Rove, the most evilly dangerous person in America (W, while dangerous, is not evil so much as ignorant; various and sundry klansmen, while evil, are not nearly so dangerous these days).  The damage he has done to America, in terms of redefining American politics and thereby dismantling whatever faith the average American had in it, is incalculable.

P.S.  Been hearing lots of rumors about W being back on the sauce, or more intriguingly, resorting to the slopes, in recent weeks; anything substantiated?
Title: Re: I hope this isn't a hoax
Post by: RGMike on September 28, 2005, 04:11:40 PM
Quote from: "Gazoo"
P.S.  Been hearing lots of rumors about W being back on the sauce, or more intriguingly, resorting to the slopes, in recent weeks; anything substantiated?


It's a pretty active rumor in DC (Letterman's actually joked about it in his monologue).  There's a thread about it on Outsports, which is where I first got wind of it.  I question whether he was ever "off the sauce", or if that was dreamed up as his excuse to be "born again" and thus pander to that crowd.
Title: Supreme Court nonsense
Post by: Gaz at da Voice on October 03, 2005, 08:24:00 AM
Just posting to say I don't think I could handle a Supreme Court justice who learned her eyeliner applique tips from the Lady Bunny:

(http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2005/10/03/politics/03cnd-miers583.jpg)
Title: Tearin' Tommy's playhouse down
Post by: urth on October 03, 2005, 03:48:02 PM
Things are continuing to look up.  Let's hope this trend continues:

CNN Breaking News:

Embattled Rep. Tom DeLay is indicted on a new charge of money laundering by a Texas grand jury, AP reports.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/news/archive/2005/10/03/national/w151132D50.DTL


Quote from: "urth"
This just came thru the email list here at work:

BREAKING NEWS

House Majority Leader Tom DeLay indicted on one count of criminal
conspiracy by Texas grand jury, according to Travis County clerk's
office.

Oh please, lord....
Title: Re: Supreme Court nonsense
Post by: RGMike on October 03, 2005, 03:55:19 PM
Quote from: "Gaz at da Voice"
Just posting to say I don't think I could handle a Supreme Court justice who learned her eyeliner applique tips from the Lady Bunny


I think Dubya should be applauded for appointing a Texas Tranny to the Supes!  Ruth Ginsburg could use a little more eyeshadow & blush...
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: urth on October 25, 2005, 03:23:18 PM
Not quite on the scale of the Watergate indictments, but still encouraging to see cracks forming in the administration's teflon skin.

http://www.thewashingtonnote.com/archives/001031.html  

October 25, 2005
Indictments Coming Tomorrow; Targets Received Letters Today

An uber-insider source has just reported the following to TWN (since confirmed by another independent source):

1. 1-5 indictments are being issued. The source feels that it will be towards the higher end.
2. The targets of indictment have already received their letters.

3. The indictments will be sealed indictments and "filed" tomorrow.

4. A press conference is being scheduled for Thursday.


The shoe is dropping.

More soon.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Gazoo on October 25, 2005, 04:25:58 PM
Quote from: "urth"
Not quite on the scale of the Watergate indictments, but still encouraging to see cracks forming in the administration's teflon skin.

http://www.thewashingtonnote.com/archives/001031.html  

October 25, 2005
Indictments Coming Tomorrow; Targets Received Letters Today

An uber-insider source has just reported the following to TWN (since confirmed by another independent source):

1. 1-5 indictments are being issued. The source feels that it will be towards the higher end.
2. The targets of indictment have already received their letters.

3. The indictments will be sealed indictments and "filed" tomorrow.

4. A press conference is being scheduled for Thursday.


The shoe is dropping.

More soon.


I feel like there should be a football stadium full of left-wingers shouting "File That Brief! File That Brief!" while cheerleaders chant, "2-4-6-8, bring an end to Plamegate!"  Anyone wanna grab a beer with me at the concession stand while we wait this out?
Title: Re: Supreme Court nonsense
Post by: mshray on October 27, 2005, 03:09:36 PM
Quote from: "Gaz at da Voice"
Just posting to say I don't think I could handle a Supreme Court justice who learned her eyeliner applique tips from the Lady Bunny:
 


Well, now you won't have to.

This from Reuters on the web: A senior aide to Bush said: "His respect for her obviously has grown in the fact that she was able to set aside any personal ambition and put the presidency and the process on a higher plain," the aide said.

Two frink points to the first actual or wannabe copy editor who can find more than one error in this sentence.
Title: Re: Supreme Court nonsense
Post by: RGMike on October 27, 2005, 03:24:56 PM
Quote from: "mshray"
Quote from: "Gaz at da Voice"
Just posting to say I don't think I could handle a Supreme Court justice who learned her eyeliner applique tips from the Lady Bunny:
 


Well, now you won't have to.

This from Reuters on the web: A senior aide to Bush said: "His respect for her obviously has grown in the fact that she was able to set aside any personal ambition and put the presidency and the process on a higher plain," the aide said.

Two frink points to the first actual or wannabe copy editor who can find more than one error in this sentence.


Hmm. I'd maybe put a comma after "grown" and after "ambition" too. And of course delete  "the aide said".
Title: Re: Supreme Court nonsense
Post by: mshray on October 27, 2005, 03:49:55 PM
Quote from: "RGMike"

Hmm. I'd maybe put a comma after "grown" and after "ambition" too. And of course delete  "the aide said".


Well A senior aide to Bush said: "yadda yadda" the aide said is certainly redundant, so you get one frink point there.  The other stuff is awkward, but as it's a quote I think we have to let it stand.  

The 2nd error is more subtle.
Title: Re: Supreme Court nonsense
Post by: RGMike on October 27, 2005, 03:57:30 PM
Quote from: "mshray"
Quote from: "RGMike"

Hmm. I'd maybe put a comma after "grown" and after "ambition" too. And of course delete  "the aide said".


Well A senior aide to Bush said: "yadda yadda" the aide said is certainly redundant, so you get one frink point there.  The other stuff is awkward, but as it's a quote I think we have to let it stand.  

The 2nd error is more subtle.


The colon ("...  aide to Bush said:") should be a comma?
Title: Re: Supreme Court nonsense
Post by: Lightnin' Rod on October 27, 2005, 04:13:56 PM
Quote from: "mshray"
Quote from: "RGMike"

Hmm. I'd maybe put a comma after "grown" and after "ambition" too. And of course delete  "the aide said".


Well A senior aide to Bush said: "yadda yadda" the aide said is certainly redundant, so you get one frink point there.  The other stuff is awkward, but as it's a quote I think we have to let it stand.  

The 2nd error is more subtle.


Higher "plane", not higher "plain."
Title: Re: Supreme Court nonsense
Post by: mshray on October 27, 2005, 04:44:12 PM
Quote from: "Rod"
Quote from: "mshray"

The 2nd error is more subtle.


Higher "plane", not higher "plain."


...like McCloud used to always say, "Wull thar ya go, Chief."

Maybe someone was thinking of Eastwood in High Plains Drifter?
Title: Re: Supreme Court nonsense
Post by: urth on October 27, 2005, 04:46:31 PM
Quote from: "Rod"
Quote from: "mshray"
Quote from: "RGMike"

Hmm. I'd maybe put a comma after "grown" and after "ambition" too. And of course delete  "the aide said".


Well A senior aide to Bush said: "yadda yadda" the aide said is certainly redundant, so you get one frink point there.  The other stuff is awkward, but as it's a quote I think we have to let it stand.  

The 2nd error is more subtle.


Higher "plane", not higher "plain."


**ding ding ding** That was the first thing that jumped out at me--the redundant "said" thing didn't hit me til I'd reread it.
Title: Re: Supreme Court nonsense
Post by: mshray on October 27, 2005, 04:55:14 PM
Quote from: "urth"
That was the first thing that jumped out at me--the redundant "said" thing didn't hit me til I'd reread it.


Me too.  I had actually written "...the error..." & was previewing my post before I noticed it needed to be "...more than one error..."
Title: Re: Supreme Court nonsense
Post by: Lightnin' Rod on October 27, 2005, 05:18:59 PM
Quote from: "mshray"


Maybe someone was thinking of Eastwood in High Plains Drifter?


Or, "The rain in Spain fall mainly on a higher plane!"

By George...
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on October 31, 2005, 12:30:08 PM
So I glanced too quickly at the headline and thought "he's nominated Angela Alioto to the Supreme Court ?!?" But, alas...

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2005/10/31/MNGOPFGQ734.DTL
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Gazoo on October 31, 2005, 11:03:32 PM
"put the presidency and the process on a higher plain"

George W, the High Plains Drifter.

As the Testy Copy Editors message board holds as canon, hundreds of newspapers use AP copy unedited.  And shouldn't.  Same goes for Reuters.  Can't wait to see how many places run this as above.

Meanwhile, that fucker who's nominated now for the Supes is W's attempt to force the moment to its crisis.  Or, in a metaphor he'd more likely get, High Noon.  Here's where we find out if America genuinely wants a theocracy or not.  When my lease here runs out, my options look like this (not in order, I emphasize) : New York; Pittsburgh; Boston; San Francisco; or Montreal.

I don't want to have to move Montreal to the front of the list.
Title: O, Canada!
Post by: ggould on November 01, 2005, 09:41:42 AM
Quote from: "Gazoo"
"put the presidency and the process on a higher plain"

George W, the High Plains Drifter.

As the Testy Copy Editors message board holds as canon, hundreds of newspapers use AP copy unedited.  And shouldn't.  Same goes for Reuters.  Can't wait to see how many places run this as above.

Meanwhile, that fucker who's nominated now for the Supes is W's attempt to force the moment to its crisis.  Or, in a metaphor he'd more likely get, High Noon.  Here's where we find out if America genuinely wants a theocracy or not.  When my lease here runs out, my options look like this (not in order, I emphasize) : New York; Pittsburgh; Boston; San Francisco; or Montreal.

I don't want to have to move Montreal to the front of the list.

High Noon indeed, with much longer-lasting consequences!  Montreal is cool; I prefer Toronto, but I like SF, and don't want to move!
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: mshray on November 09, 2005, 09:14:49 AM
Best news from last night's elections results across the US:

In Dover, Pennsylvania, where a court battle is raging over the teaching of an "intelligent design" alternative to evolution, voters ousted eight of the nine incumbents on the local school board.

Replacing them will be a slate of board members who call for removing intelligent design, which they say is a version of creationism and brings religion into the teaching of science, from the curriculum.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on November 09, 2005, 09:18:29 AM
Quote from: "mshray"
Best news from last night's elections results across the US:

In Dover, Pennsylvania, where a court battle is raging over the teaching of an "intelligent design" alternative to evolution, voters ousted eight of the nine incumbents on the local school board.

Replacing them will be a slate of board members who call for removing intelligent design, which they say is a version of creationism and brings religion into the teaching of science, from the curriculum.


On the other hand, ID won in Kansas.  Win one, lose one.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Gazoo on November 09, 2005, 09:53:47 AM
Quote from: "RGMike"
Quote from: "mshray"
Best news from last night's elections results across the US:

In Dover, Pennsylvania, where a court battle is raging over the teaching of an "intelligent design" alternative to evolution, voters ousted eight of the nine incumbents on the local school board.

Replacing them will be a slate of board members who call for removing intelligent design, which they say is a version of creationism and brings religion into the teaching of science, from the curriculum.


On the other hand, ID won in Kansas.  Win one, lose one.


I wrote Kansas off a long time ago, so no loss in my scorebook.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: urth on November 09, 2005, 10:27:54 AM
Quote from: "Gazoo"
Quote from: "RGMike"
Quote from: "mshray"
Best news from last night's elections results across the US:

In Dover, Pennsylvania, where a court battle is raging over the teaching of an "intelligent design" alternative to evolution, voters ousted eight of the nine incumbents on the local school board.

Replacing them will be a slate of board members who call for removing intelligent design, which they say is a version of creationism and brings religion into the teaching of science, from the curriculum.


On the other hand, ID won in Kansas.  Win one, lose one.


I wrote Kansas off a long time ago, so no loss in my scorebook.


Agreed. This is something like the third time in the past 5 years (or less?) that Kansas has modified their curriculum to the whims of the religious right. They're a lost cause.
Title: the IDiots
Post by: ggould on November 09, 2005, 11:03:11 AM
Quote from: "urth"
Quote from: "Gazoo"
Quote from: "RGMike"
Quote from: "mshray"
Best news from last night's elections results across the US:

In Dover, Pennsylvania, where a court battle is raging over the teaching of an "intelligent design" alternative to evolution, voters ousted eight of the nine incumbents on the local school board.

Replacing them will be a slate of board members who call for removing intelligent design, which they say is a version of creationism and brings religion into the teaching of science, from the curriculum.
On the other hand, ID won in Kansas.  Win one, lose one.
I wrote Kansas off a long time ago, so no loss in my scorebook.
Agreed. This is something like the third time in the past 5 years (or less?) that Kansas has modified their curriculum to the whims of the religious right. They're a lost cause.

I think the interesting thing is that the Dover populace basically got woken up to what sort of coup had taken place, and threw the bums out.  Hopefully the same thing will happen in Kansas.  These stealth coups are happening everywhere.  In the United Methodist Church, the Judicial Board (analagous to supreme court) upheld a minister who refused membership to church because the person is gay.  The UMW Bishops however, were totally taken by surprise, and have unanimously condemned the verdict.  The fundies need to be stopped at the local level, before it goes too far.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on December 07, 2005, 09:00:27 AM
Do any of y'all have Showtime on cable? because this episode of their series "Masters of Horror", the Joe Dante-directed "Homecoming", sounds incredible:

http://www.villagevoice.com/film/0548,lim,70455,20.html

an anti-Bush zombie movie! sounds like my kinda flick.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: princessofcairo on December 10, 2005, 06:23:29 PM
oh where, oh where has my country gone? the one with the little brown tail? (http://www.reandev.com/taliban/)
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Gazoo on December 10, 2005, 07:14:58 PM
Quote from: "princessofcairo"
oh where, oh where has my country gone? the one with the little brown tail? (http://www.reandev.com/taliban/)


"Our country" never existed.  Like Prince said while no one was paying attention: "In this life - you're on your own!" I truly do believe that America will never live up to its promise until evangelical Christianity (as well as the evangelical strains of all the other transnational religions) goes the way of the dodo.

And I don't pretend to claim full American citizenship, not while America gives me insufficient rights.  I'm a citizen of the world, presently placed in America, believing in the American dream while not pretending that America wants that dream to come true for anyone.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on December 16, 2005, 11:37:06 AM
Jon Carroll's brilliant rejoinder to all this absurd "war on Christmas" crap the fundies have been spewing:

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2005/12/16/DDGQIF5ORB1.DTL

And while I'm at it... how can Bill O'Reilly even get up in  the morning anymore, now that Stephen Colbert effectively neuters him every night on the "Cohl-bare Reh-pohr"?  That show is genius.
Title: We wish you a merry Christmas, we wish you a merry Christmas
Post by: ggould on December 16, 2005, 12:13:06 PM
Quote from: "RGMike"
Jon Carroll's brilliant rejoinder to all this absurd "war on Christmas" crap the fundies have been spewing:

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2005/12/16/DDGQIF5ORB1.DTL

And while I'm at it... how can Bill O'Reilly even get up in  the morning anymore, now that Stephen Colbert effectively neuters him every night on the "Cohl-bare Reh-pohr"?  That show is genius.

We wish you a merry Christmas, we wish you a merry Christmas, we wish you a merry Christmas, and please buy our beer.

Old line from a Stan Freeburg bit.  I'd love to get my hands on an MP3 of that, but nothing on iTunes.
Title: Re: We wish you a merry Christmas, we wish you a merry Chris
Post by: RGMike on December 16, 2005, 12:22:48 PM
Quote from: "ggould"
We wish you a merry Christmas, we wish you a merry Christmas, we wish you a merry Christmas, and please buy our beer.

Old line from a Stan Freeburg bit.  I'd love to get my hands on an MP3 of that, but nothing on iTunes.


I have it on the Dr Demento Xmas CD, which also includes Freberg's equally brilliant "Xmas Dragnet".
Title: Re: We wish you a merry Christmas, we wish you a merry Chris
Post by: ggould on December 16, 2005, 01:24:54 PM
Quote from: "RGMike"
Quote from: "ggould"
We wish you a merry Christmas, we wish you a merry Christmas, we wish you a merry Christmas, and please buy our beer.

Old line from a Stan Freeburg bit.  I'd love to get my hands on an MP3 of that, but nothing on iTunes.
I have it on the Dr Demento Xmas CD, which also includes Freberg's equally brilliant "Xmas Dragnet".

So, I guess I need to come over sometime to make an MP3 of this and the Byrds tune you have, eh?
Title: Re: We wish you a merry Christmas, we wish you a merry Chris
Post by: RGMike on December 16, 2005, 01:27:53 PM
Quote from: "ggould"
Quote from: "RGMike"
Quote from: "ggould"
We wish you a merry Christmas, we wish you a merry Christmas, we wish you a merry Christmas, and please buy our beer.

Old line from a Stan Freeburg bit.  I'd love to get my hands on an MP3 of that, but nothing on iTunes.
I have it on the Dr Demento Xmas CD, which also includes Freberg's equally brilliant "Xmas Dragnet".

So, I guess I need to come over sometime to make an MP3 of this and the Byrds tune you have, eh?


You're always welcome.  Or I can bring both to the next Club gathering.
Title: Re: We wish you a merry Christmas, we wish you a merry Chris
Post by: ggould on December 16, 2005, 02:58:36 PM
Quote from: "RGMike"
Quote from: "ggould"
Quote from: "RGMike"
Quote from: "ggould"
We wish you a merry Christmas, we wish you a merry Christmas, we wish you a merry Christmas, and please buy our beer.

Old line from a Stan Freeburg bit.  I'd love to get my hands on an MP3 of that, but nothing on iTunes.
I have it on the Dr Demento Xmas CD, which also includes Freberg's equally brilliant "Xmas Dragnet".
So, I guess I need to come over sometime to make an MP3 of this and the Byrds tune you have, eh?
You're always welcome.  Or I can bring both to the next Club gathering.

Do we have a date set for next gathering?
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Anonymous on December 16, 2005, 03:46:11 PM
Quote from: "RGMike"
Jon Carroll's brilliant rejoinder to all this absurd "war on Christmas" crap the fundies have been spewing:

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2005/12/16/DDGQIF5ORB1.DTL

And while I'm at it... how can Bill O'Reilly even get up in  the morning anymore, now that Stephen Colbert effectively neuters him every night on the "Cohl-bare Reh-pohr"?  That show is genius.


War on Christmas, my rectum.  What's made Christmas less meaningful are Christians.
Title: Re: We wish you a merry Christmas, we wish you a merry Chris
Post by: Lightnin' Rod on December 16, 2005, 05:21:58 PM
Quote from: "ggould"
Quote from: "RGMike"
Quote from: "ggould"
Quote from: "RGMike"
Quote from: "ggould"
We wish you a merry Christmas, we wish you a merry Christmas, we wish you a merry Christmas, and please buy our beer.

Old line from a Stan Freeburg bit.  I'd love to get my hands on an MP3 of that, but nothing on iTunes.
I have it on the Dr Demento Xmas CD, which also includes Freberg's equally brilliant "Xmas Dragnet".
So, I guess I need to come over sometime to make an MP3 of this and the Byrds tune you have, eh?
You're always welcome.  Or I can bring both to the next Club gathering.
Do we have a date set for next gathering?

The princess and I were discussing that the other night on the ferry.  Anyone have an idea?
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on December 20, 2005, 12:46:49 PM
another superb piece on the so-called "war on Xmas"

http://www.slate.com/id/2132806/

"God damn them, every one!"  LOL!
Title: Christopher Hitchens
Post by: ggould on December 20, 2005, 01:28:39 PM
Quote from: "RGMike"
another superb piece on the so-called "war on Xmas"

http://www.slate.com/id/2132806/

"God damn them, every one!"  LOL!

Good article from a guy who is generally a drunken apologist for the war in Iraq, but nails it here, and nails Joe Scarborough to his own cross!
Title: Re: Christopher Hitchens
Post by: RGMike on December 20, 2005, 02:26:34 PM
Quote from: "ggould"
Quote from: "RGMike"
another superb piece on the so-called "war on Xmas"

http://www.slate.com/id/2132806/

"God damn them, every one!"  LOL!
Good article from a guy who is generally a drunken apologist for the war in Iraq, but nails it here, and nails Joe Scarborough to his own cross!
yes -- my first thought was, "is this the same Christopher Hitchens?"
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: urth on December 20, 2005, 04:05:51 PM
“Stop throwing the Constitution in my face,” Bush screamed back. “It’s just a goddamned piece of paper!”

http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/printer_7779.shtml

Take this with a grain of salt, since the writer cites three unnamed sources as the basis for his quotes--so the potential is there for this to be just blogger spewage.  But given the news of the past week or so, I can certainly picture Our Fearless Leader acting in such a manner.

And it gives me chills.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on January 05, 2006, 02:23:22 PM
Pat Robertson's foaming at the mouth again. Sez Ariel Sharon's stroke is retribution from God.  Oy.

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2006/01/05/national/a134812S67.DTL
Title: what about Pat?
Post by: ggould on January 05, 2006, 03:20:45 PM
Quote from: "RGMike"
Pat Robertson's foaming at the mouth again. Sez Ariel Sharon's stroke is retribution from God.  Oy.

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2006/01/05/national/a134812S67.DTL

I should hope God can find something to smite Pat for too!
 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: what about Pat?
Post by: Gazoo on January 05, 2006, 09:41:35 PM
Quote from: "ggould"
Quote from: "RGMike"
Pat Robertson's foaming at the mouth again. Sez Ariel Sharon's stroke is retribution from God.  Oy.

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2006/01/05/national/a134812S67.DTL

I should hope God can find something to smite Pat for too!
 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

Seriously, why are the Christian leaders in America not calling Robertson out on his shit, or at least disavowing his value system as not representative of the larger Christian community?  He's making y'all look bad, freal.  Lest anyone think his blusterings are high comedy -- I don't see anyone specifically distancing themselves from him, so why shouldn't I wonder if they're deep-down heart-of-hearts agreeing with the fucker?

Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton: Call this fucker out on his shit!!!
Title: Re: what about Pat?
Post by: RGMike on January 05, 2006, 09:56:11 PM
Quote from: "Gazoo"
Quote from: "ggould"
Quote from: "RGMike"
Pat Robertson's foaming at the mouth again. Sez Ariel Sharon's stroke is retribution from God.  Oy.

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2006/01/05/national/a134812S67.DTL

I should hope God can find something to smite Pat for too!
 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

Seriously, why are the Christian leaders in America not calling Robertson out on his shit, or at least disavowing his value system as not representative of the larger Christian community?  He's making y'all look bad, freal.  Lest anyone think his blusterings are high comedy -- I don't see anyone specifically distancing themselves from him, so why shouldn't I wonder if they're deep-down heart-of-hearts agreeing with the fucker?

Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton: Call this fucker out on his shit!!!


Amen, Brotha McCombs!

earlier I saw Keith Olbermann's "Countdown" on MSNBC, and he has a "3 worst people in the world" feature each day.  Today's Top 3:

#3 - the local (San Ramon) couple who left their kids home alone while they went to Vegas for New Year's

#2 - the anti-gay preacher (speaking of Christians) who got arrested for soliciting a male undercover cop for sex (LOVE that one -- he says he was "ministering to the police"!)

#1 - Robertson.
Title: Re: what about Pat?
Post by: princessofcairo on January 07, 2006, 03:42:59 PM
Quote from: "Gazoo"
Quote from: "ggould"
Quote from: "RGMike"
Pat Robertson's foaming at the mouth again. Sez Ariel Sharon's stroke is retribution from God.  Oy.

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2006/01/05/national/a134812S67.DTL

I should hope God can find something to smite Pat for too!
 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

Seriously, why are the Christian leaders in America not calling Robertson out on his shit, or at least disavowing his value system as not representative of the larger Christian community?  He's making y'all look bad, freal.  Lest anyone think his blusterings are high comedy -- I don't see anyone specifically distancing themselves from him, so why shouldn't I wonder if they're deep-down heart-of-hearts agreeing with the fucker?

Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton: Call this fucker out on his shit!!!


>I wonder if they're deep-down heart-of-hearts agreeing with the fucker?

i believe you hit the nail on the head. if you recall, sharon wasn't always the world's most lovable israeli...anyhoo, silence is accordance, or whatever those pink triangle t-shirts at pride used to read.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Gazoo on January 08, 2006, 06:13:17 PM
I don't know if the appropriate place is here on the movie thread, but I have an announcement to make:

FUCK UTAH.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/SHOWBIZ/Movies/01/08/brokeback.canceled.ap/index.html

They'll show horror movies, killings, decapitations ... but not faggot cowboys.  Am I generalizing one megaplex decision to all of Utah?  You bet the fuck I am.  I'm sick of theocracy and would love to see Utah out of the union almost as much as I would love to see the Pope get caught on tape shoving a crucifix up his own rectum.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: princessofcairo on January 08, 2006, 11:42:37 PM
ooh, you make the people run, the people run
when you gonna leave palestine, sharona?

ooh, you're just a simple one, a simple one
bleeding down the length of your spine, sharona

always giving up on the luck of the likud kind
never making up, making up for the wasted time
my, my, my, my, my, whoo!

(so this is the best my boss and i could come up with this morning after leaving the bar at five a.m. we'd been subjected to too much knack, natch, thanks to the d.j.)
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on January 09, 2006, 07:40:05 AM
Quote from: "Gazoo"
I don't know if the appropriate place is here on the movie thread, but I have an announcement to make:

FUCK UTAH.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/SHOWBIZ/Movies/01/08/brokeback.canceled.ap/index.html

They'll show horror movies, killings, decapitations ... but not faggot cowboys.  Am I generalizing one megaplex decision to all of Utah?  You bet the fuck I am.  I'm sick of theocracy and would love to see Utah out of the union almost as much as I would love to see the Pope get caught on tape shoving a crucifix up his own rectum.


Back to this... I hadn't heard about Gene Shalit's odd review of BB until this morning:

http://www.glaad.org/action/alerts_detail.php?id=3849#

What's really interesting here is that Shalit has an openly gay son.  So much for them liberal Noo Yawk Jews, eh?
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: urth on January 12, 2006, 05:19:24 PM
This could have gone in the "fun stuff" thread but I thought it belonged here:

http://www.filmstripinternational.com/

(Speakers or headphones needed--if you're at the office, definitely the latter.)
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: mshray on January 12, 2006, 09:55:07 PM
Quote from: "princessofcairo"
ooh, you make the people run, the people run
when you gonna leave palestine, sharona?

ooh, you're just a simple one, a simple one
bleeding down the length of your spine, sharona

always giving up on the luck of the likud kind
never making up, making up for the wasted time
my, my, my, my, my, whoo!

(so this is the best my boss and i could come up with this morning after leaving the bar at five a.m. we'd been subjected to too much knack, natch, thanks to the d.j.)


I like that.

On a tangential note, I heard the Knack this morning in Houston & the deejay said that there was a real person named Sharona that the band wrote this song about.  And that she is a very wealthy real estate investor in L.A. these days.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: princessofcairo on January 13, 2006, 09:42:46 AM
Quote from: "urth"
This could have gone in the "fun stuff" thread but I thought it belonged here:

http://www.filmstripinternational.com/

(Speakers or headphones needed--if you're at the office, definitely the latter.)


:)
ann-hole
scalia v2.0
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: princessofcairo on February 04, 2006, 01:09:10 PM
don't know if anybody else is following this (http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/668), but it's heading in a terrible direction.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: princessofcairo on March 08, 2006, 10:03:21 AM
not sure this belongs here, but, oh well. can't help about the shape i'm in.

so...the supes voted that schools that receive fed aid have to allow military recruitment activities on campus. and the "kenny! kenny! kenny!" stay in school advertisement on kfog is sponsored by the armed forces. mmmhmm.....
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Gazoo on March 08, 2006, 10:06:47 AM
Quote from: "princessofcairo"
not sure this belongs here, but, oh well. can't help about the shape i'm in.

so...the supes voted that schools that receive fed aid have to allow military recruitment activities on campus. and the "kenny! kenny! kenny!" stay in school advertisement on kfog is sponsored by the armed forces. mmmhmm.....


Definitely discouraging news, although there's nothing stopping people from protesting or otherwise making life miserable for the military recruiters.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on March 08, 2006, 10:21:32 AM
Quote from: "princessofcairo"
oh well. can't help about the shape i'm in.


But you CAN sing, you ARE pretty and your legs, well, I dunno if they're thin or not.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: princessofcairo on March 08, 2006, 10:27:41 AM
Quote from: "RGMike"
Quote from: "princessofcairo"
oh well. can't help about the shape i'm in.


But you CAN sing, you ARE pretty and your legs, well, I dunno if they're thin or not.


why thanks! and, yup, they are. think chicken.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Gazoo on March 08, 2006, 10:43:17 AM
Quote from: "princessofcairo"
Quote from: "RGMike"
Quote from: "princessofcairo"
oh well. can't help about the shape i'm in.


But you CAN sing, you ARE pretty and your legs, well, I dunno if they're thin or not.


why thanks! and, yup, they are. think chicken.

(http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/drg000/g059/g05914disp9.jpg)
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: princessofcairo on March 08, 2006, 10:46:40 AM
Quote from: "Gazoo"
Quote from: "princessofcairo"
Quote from: "RGMike"
Quote from: "princessofcairo"
oh well. can't help about the shape i'm in.


But you CAN sing, you ARE pretty and your legs, well, I dunno if they're thin or not.


why thanks! and, yup, they are. think chicken.

(http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/drg000/g059/g05914disp9.jpg)


mmm...i'm off to popeye's now.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: princessofcairo on March 14, 2006, 02:48:20 PM
not sure if it's appropriate here, but:

how hard would it be for the government to conduct their own searches on the internet (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/4804182.stm)? or would the cost to train incompetent paper-pushers how to use google be passed onto the taxpayers?
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Gazoo on March 14, 2006, 04:45:38 PM
Quote from: "princessofcairo"
not sure if it's appropriate here, but:

how hard would it be for the government to conduct their own searches on the internet (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/4804182.stm)? or would the cost to train incompetent paper-pushers how to use google be passed onto the taxpayers?


I love these occasional overtures to the OH WON'T SOMEONE THINK ABOUT THE CHILDREN set.

Meantime, the other "top technology" story has one of the more bizarre photo + caption choices I've seen recently:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/4805760.stm
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: princessofcairo on March 14, 2006, 04:47:12 PM
Quote from: "Gazoo"
Quote from: "princessofcairo"
not sure if it's appropriate here, but:

how hard would it be for the government to conduct their own searches on the internet (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/4804182.stm)? or would the cost to train incompetent paper-pushers how to use google be passed onto the taxpayers?


I love these occasional overtures to the OH WON'T SOMEONE THINK ABOUT THE CHILDREN set.

Meantime, the other "top technology" story has one of the more bizarre photo + caption choices I've seen recently:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/4805760.stm


pinky and the brain?
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: princessofcairo on March 15, 2006, 11:58:05 AM
keep hope alive! (http://demballs.cf.huffingtonpost.com/)
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on March 15, 2006, 12:01:31 PM
Quote from: "princessofcairo"
keep hope alive! (http://demballs.cf.huffingtonpost.com/)



Genius!
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on March 20, 2006, 11:57:59 AM
a great Jon Carroll column today:

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/03/20/DDGU9GJ8FN1.DTL
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on April 05, 2006, 11:02:17 AM
ah, those Christian, Republican, family values:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/news/archive/2006/04/05/national/w095150D44.DTL
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: mshray on April 18, 2006, 01:23:29 PM
This is scary, but you must read it. - Mark

DESCENT INTO ANGER AND DESPAIR

By James Carroll - Boston Globe  |  April 17, 2006

Last week, the rattling of sabers filled the air. Various published reports, most notably one from Seymour M. Hersh in The New Yorker, indicated that Washington is removing swords from scabbards and heightening the threat aimed at Iran, which refuses to suspend its nuclear project. It may be that such reports, based on alarming insider accounts of planning and military exercises, are themselves part of Washington's strategy of coercive diplomacy. But who can trust the Bush administration to play games of feint and intimidation without unleashing forces it cannot control, stumbling again into disastrous confrontation?

An Iranian official dismissed the talk of imminent US military action as mere psychological warfare, but then he made a telling observation. Instead of attributing the escalations of threat to strategic impulses, the official labeled them a manifestation of ''Americans' anger and despair."

The phrase leapt out of the news report, demanding to be taken seriously. I hadn't considered it before, but anger and despair so precisely define the broad American mood that those emotions may be the only things that President Bush and his circle have in common with the surrounding legions of his antagonists. We are in anger and despair because every nightmare of which we were warned has come to pass. Bush's team is in anger and despair because their grand and -- to them -- selfless ambitions have been thwarted at every turn. Indeed, anger and despair can seem universally inevitable responses to what America has done and what it faces now.

While the anger and despair of those on the margins of power only increase the experience of marginal powerlessness, the anger and despair of those who continue to shape national policy can be truly dangerous if such policy owes more to these emotions than to reasoned realism. Is such affective disarray subliminally shaping the direction of US policy? That seems an impudent question. Yet all at once, like an out-of-focus lens snapping into clarity, it makes sense of what is happening. With the US military already stressed to an extreme in Iraq by challenges from a mainly Sunni insurgency, why in the world would Washington risk inflaming the Shi'ite population against us by wildly threatening Iran?

But such a thing happened before. It was the Bush administration's anger and despair at its inability to capture Osama bin Laden that fueled the patent irrationality of the move against Saddam Hussein. The attack on Iraq three years ago was, at bottom, a blind act of rage at the way Al Qaeda and its leaders had eluded us in Afghanistan; a blindness that showed itself at once in the inadequacy of US war planning. Now, with Iran, nuclear weapons are at issue. And yet look at the self-defeating irrationality of the Bush team's maneuvering. How do we hope to pressure Tehran into abandoning its nuclear project? Why, by making our threat explicitly nuclear.

Seymour Hersh, citing a ''former official," reported that US warplanes near Iran ''have been flying simulated nuclear-weapons delivery missions -- rapid ascending maneuvers known as 'over the shoulder' bombing -- since last summer." Such an exercise puts on display an American readiness to use tactical nuclear weapons against Iranian nuclear facilities. Whether the maneuvers have actually been carried out or not, even authoritative reports of them represent an extraordinarily irresponsible brandishing of the heretofore unthinkable weapon: To keep you from getting nukes, we will nuke you.

As if that were not irrational enough, the Bush administration chose this month, in the thick of its nuclear standoff with Tehran, to reveal plans for a new nuclear weapons manufacturing complex of its own -- a major escalation of US nuclear capacity. This represents a movement away from merely maintaining our thousands of warheads to replacing them. The promise of new bombs to come, including the so-called bunker-buster under development, may be the final nail in the coffin of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, which binds Washington to work for the elimination of nukes, not their enhancement.

Set the cauldron of Iraq to boiling even hotter by daring Iran to join in against us. Justify Iran's impulse to obtain nuclear capacity by using our own nuclear capacity as a thermo-prod. How self-defeating can our actions get?

Surely, something besides intelligent strategic theory is at work here. Yes. These are the policies of deeply frustrated, angry, and psychologically wounded people. Those of us who oppose them will yield to our own versions of anger and despair at our peril, and the world's. Fierce but reasoned opposition is more to the point than ever.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Gazoo on April 18, 2006, 05:12:00 PM
Now consider that same article in light of the growing conspiracy theories that suggest our government actively enabled the 9/11 attacks to provide an excuse to invade Iraq, and things look all the more devastating.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Gazoo on April 19, 2006, 09:13:56 AM
Oh good, McClellan's gone.  I don't expect that the new press sec will be any more truthful, but s/he might be a little less nefarious.  Scottie lacked both class and integrity, in direct contradiction to what W said this morning, and there seems nowhere to go but up in that role, short of a directly Orwellian scenario.  Hey, maybe they'll just end press briefings altogether, since both sides knew full well they've been a dog and pony show for the past five years.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on April 19, 2006, 09:16:22 AM
Quote from: "Gazoo"
Oh good, McClellan's gone.  


So now he can end his arranged marriage and go back to being gay.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: mshray on May 09, 2006, 08:23:37 AM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060508/pl_nm/bush_poll_dc_1

Bush drops another 3% in approval, he is now lower than any president has ever been, as recorded by this poll.  And yes that includes Nixon in '74.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: mshray on May 10, 2006, 02:07:00 PM
This is too funny to be true, but it is, and I won't even try to append a joke.  Your first thoughts are sure to mirror my own.  From the front page of today's Chron:


Bush gets lecture from Iran's leader:  18-page letter urges U.S. to forsake secular democracy and turn more toward religion.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: urth on May 10, 2006, 03:10:47 PM
Quote from: "mshray"
This is too funny to be true, but it is, and I won't even try to append a joke.  Your first thoughts are sure to mirror my own.  From the front page of today's Chron:


Bush gets lecture from Iran's leader:  18-page letter urges U.S. to forsake secular democracy and turn more toward religion.


I assume your first thoughts were something along the lines of:

MORE towards religion? Forsake secular democracy? This guy must not read the papers.  I guess we all have differing definitions of "secular" but, yikes! (However, being as this came from the leader of a country GW is known to harbor animosity towards, safe to say he probably won't pay it any heed.)

And:

Eighteen pages? God, someone get that man an editor.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: mshray on May 10, 2006, 03:49:05 PM
Quote from: "urth"
This guy must not read the papers.


yep, that's pretty much it.  I want to see Asmussen on Friday:  

Bush sends 18-page reply to Ahmadinejad:  
God has personally asked me not to make it too obvious on the religion thing.  But as far as the democracy thing goes, please see attached PowerPoint from Diebold.  May be of some use to you.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on May 10, 2006, 09:13:46 PM
In lieu of Assmussen, here's some Tom Tomorrow:

http://www.workingforchange.com/comic.cfm?itemid=20771
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on May 11, 2006, 07:42:36 AM
CW Nevius in his sfgate.com blog, on Mary Cheney's new book:

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgate/detail?blogid=18&entry_id=5088
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: mshray on May 15, 2006, 11:26:18 AM
This came from TruthOut.com, but I haven't seen the mainstream media pick up on it yet.  Hopefully this actually plays out.  If not, consider it a heatlhy dose of wishful thinking...

Karl Rove Indicted on Charges of Perjury, Lying to Investigators

Saturday 13 May 2006

Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald spent more than half a day Friday at the offices of Patton Boggs, the law firm representing Karl Rove.

During the course of that meeting, Fitzgerald served attorneys for former Deputy White House Chief of Staff Karl Rove with an indictment charging the embattled White House official with perjury and lying to investigators related to his role in the CIA leak case, and instructed one of the attorneys to tell Rove that he has 24 business hours to get his affairs in order, high level sources with direct knowledge of the meeting said Saturday morning.

Robert Luskin, Rove's attorney, did not return a call for comment. Sources said Fitzgerald was in Washington, DC, Friday and met with Luskin for about 15 hours to go over the charges against Rove, which include perjury and lying to investigators about how and when Rove discovered that Valerie Plame Wilson was a covert CIA operative and whether he shared that information with reporters, sources with direct knowledge of the meeting said.

It was still unknown Saturday whether Fitzgerald charged Rove with a more serious obstruction of justice charge. Sources close to the case said Friday that it appeared very likely that an obstruction charge against Rove would be included with charges of perjury and lying to investigators.

An announcement by Fitzgerald is expected to come this week, sources close to the case said. However, the day and time is unknown. Randall Samborn, a spokesman for the special prosecutor was unavailable for comment. In the past, Samborn said he could not comment on the case.

The grand jury hearing evidence in the Plame Wilson case met Friday on other matters while Fitzgerald spent the entire day at Luskin's office. The meeting was a closely guarded secret and seems to have taken place without the knowledge of the media.

As TruthOut reported Friday evening, Rove told President Bush and Chief of Staff Joshua Bolten, as well as a few other high level administration officials, that he will be indicted in the CIA leak case and will immediately resign his White House job when the special counsel publicly announces the charges against him, according to sources.

Details of Rove's discussions with the president and Bolten have spread through the corridors of the White House, where low-level staffers and senior officials were trying to determine how the indictment would impact an administration that has been mired in a number of high-profile political scandals for nearly a year, said a half-dozen White House aides and two senior officials who work at the Republican National Committee.

Speaking on condition of anonymity Friday night, sourcesconfirmedRove's indictment was imminent. These individuals requested anonymity saying they were not authorized to speak publicly about Rove's situation. A spokesman in the White House press office said they would not comment on "wildly speculative rumors."

Rove's announcement to President Bush and Bolten comes more than a month after he alerted the new chief of staff to a meeting his attorneyhad with Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald in which Fitzgerald told Luskinthat his case against Rove would soon be coming to a close and that he was leaning toward charging Rove with perjury, obstruction of justice and lying to investigators, according to sources close to the investigation.

A few weeks after he spoke with Fitzgerald, Luskin arranged for Rove toreturn to the grand jury for a fifth time to testify in hopes of fending off an indictment related to Rove's role in the CIA leak, sources said.

That meeting was followed almost immediately by an announcement by newly-appointed White House Chief of Staff Joshua Bolten of changes inthe responsibilities of some White House officials, including Rove, who was stripped of his policy duties and would no longer hold the title of Deputy White House chief of staff.

The White House said Rove would focus on the November elections and his change in status in no way reflected his fifth appearance before the grand jury or the possibility of an indictment.

But since Rove testified two weeks ago, the White House has been coordinating a response to what is sure to be the biggest political scandal it has faced thus far: the loss of a key political operative who has been instrumental in shaping White House policy on a wide range of domestic issues.

Rove testified that he first found out about Plame Wilson from reading anewspaper report in July 2003 and only after the story was published did he share damaging information about her CIA status with other reporters.

However, evidence has surfaced during the course of the two-year-old investigation that shows Rove spoke with at least two reporters about Plame Wilson prior to the publication of the column.

The explanation Rove provided to the grand jury - that he was dealing with more urgent White House matters and therefore forgot - has notconvinced Fitzgerald that Rove has been entirely truthful in his testimony and resulted in the indictment.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on May 17, 2006, 02:55:49 PM
a "heartless" attack ad (being run by a Repugnican, of course):

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgate/detail?blogid=14&entry_id=5264
Title: too weird
Post by: ggould on May 24, 2006, 05:19:42 PM
http://www.defenddelay.com/

can this be for real?  Using Colbert as a spokesman?
Title: Re: too weird
Post by: ggould on May 24, 2006, 05:25:59 PM
Quote from: "ggould"
http://www.defenddelay.com/

can this be for real?  Using Colbert as a spokesman?
the followup link:  http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/24/delay-colbert/
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: mshray on May 25, 2006, 11:21:56 AM
Lay & Skilling found guilty in Enron case.  Each now faces maximum combined sentences of over a century.

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/LegalCenter/story?id=2003728&page=1&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on May 25, 2006, 11:31:54 AM
Quote from: "mshray"
Lay & Skilling found guilty in Enron case.  Each now faces maximum combined sentences of over a century.

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/LegalCenter/story?id=2003728&page=1&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312


The system works. Sometimes.

Too bad Colbert is on vacation this week and next...
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Gazoo on May 25, 2006, 07:36:53 PM
Quote from: "mshray"
Lay & Skilling found guilty in Enron case.  Each now faces maximum combined sentences of over a century.

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/LegalCenter/story?id=2003728&page=1&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312


A fascinating display of cynicism: Lay invoking the Name of the Lord in an attempt to save face and make a desperate plea to Jesusland.

I'll make no attempt to hide my schadenfreude to Messrs. Lay and Skilling: I HOPE YOU GET RAPED IN AN EVEN WORSE WAY THAN THE WAY YOU RAPED YOUR EMPLOYEES AND THE ENERGY CONSUMERS OF TEXAS AND CALIFORNIA, YOU SCURRILOUS MOTHERFUCKERS!!!!!
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on May 25, 2006, 10:06:49 PM
Quote from: "Gazoo"
Quote from: "mshray"
Lay & Skilling found guilty in Enron case.  Each now faces maximum combined sentences of over a century.

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/LegalCenter/story?id=2003728&page=1&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312


A fascinating display of cynicism: Lay invoking the Name of the Lord in an attempt to save face and make a desperate plea to Jesusland.

I'll make no attempt to hide my schadenfreude to Messrs. Lay and Skilling: I HOPE YOU GET RAPED IN AN EVEN WORSE WAY THAN THE WAY YOU RAPED YOUR EMPLOYEES AND THE ENERGY CONSUMERS OF TEXAS AND CALIFORNIA, YOU SCURRILOUS MOTHERFUCKERS!!!!!


Don't hold back, buddy!
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: mshray on June 07, 2006, 11:16:56 AM
Normally I'd put Asmussen in the Funny Stuff thread, but today he's not funny, he's seriously venting.  A must read in any case.

(http://www.sfgate.com/chronicle/pictures/2006/06/07/060709-950x314-badreporter.gif)

Don't know how aware of this you all are, but my dad says that in the ghetto in St. Louis this is truly the way things are going.  Vast majorities of black clergy are playing into Bush's & the Reactionary Right's hands.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on June 07, 2006, 11:21:08 AM
Quote from: "mshray"
Normally I'd put asmussen in the FUnny Stuff thread, but today he's not funny, he's seriously venting.  A must read in any case.



that is beyond genius. His best ever, and that's saying something.
Title: Harper's On Simple Human Decency
Post by: Gazoo on June 08, 2006, 08:37:01 AM
Harper's On Simple Human Decency:

http://www.harpers.org/OnSimpleHumanDecency=1149635660.html

On Simple Human Decency

Posted on Wednesday, June 7, 2006. Originally from Harper's Magazine, June 2006. By Ben Metcalf.

I.
Before I attempt to fill these pages with my disgust, which the odd reader who knows me will surely expect, I am obliged to address a preliminary concern, which that same odd reader may safely ignore. Some time has passed since I last raised my voice to the multitude, and whereas literary taste does not seem to have advanced much in the interim, and I assume is still arrayed so as to engage only the weak-minded and dull, I find that I am no longer able to discern with any accuracy where the bounds of simple human decency lie. This would bother me even less than does the taste issue were it not for the fact that ground gained or lost in the theater of decency tends now and then to affect the law, and it has long been a personal goal of mine to avoid capture and imprisonment.

I am therefore led to wonder what the common citizen is allowed to “say” anymore, in print or otherwise, and still feel reasonably sure that some indignant team of G-men, or else a pair of gung-ho local screws, will not drag him away to a detention center, there to act out, with the detainee as a prop, that familiar scene in which one hero cop or another is patriotically unable to resist certain outbursts against the detainee and what were once imagined to be the detainee's constitutional rights. Because I am loath to violate whatever fresh new mores the people have agreed upon, or have been told they agree upon, and because I do not care to have my ass kicked repeatedly in a holding cell while I beg to see a lawyer, I almost hesitate to ask the following question. I will ask it, though, out of what used to be called simple human decency:

Am I allowed to write that I would like to hunt down George W. Bush, the president of the United States, and kill him with my bare hands?

Let me be clear that I have no wish to perform such a deed in fact, nor do I want anyone else to destroy bodily what is, at least in the technical sense, a fellow human being. (Let me be equally clear that the above qualification, although true, is intended primarily as a legal ploy and should in no way be attributed to my claimed pacifism, which today's prosecutor might find a way to use against me. I would also like excused from the proceedings my personal feelings for George W. Bush, embarrassment and rage, as they could probably be turned to my disadvantage as well.) In truth, I bring neither a message nor a promise of violence. I seek only to gauge what level of discourse is still acceptable in this country by asking, in the hope that I might someday participate in that discourse, whether I am free to posit that it would probably be great fun, and a boon to all mankind, if I were to slaughter the president of the United States with my bare hands.

II.
This caution is despicable, yes, but it cannot be helped. If I am to remain at large, then here and there a sentence will need to be perverted. I harbor no desire to become a litmus test for a justice system I already understand to be base, or to look on from the dock as my words are converted into the mathematical symbols so many Americans now expect them to be, indicative of quantities rather than qualities, each best thought of as a price so as to aid in the computation of a verdict or a bill. All I ask is that these particular words be read literally, which I gather is not yet the same as their being received as a dumb stream of numbers.

In 1917, before even a handful of presidents had been offed (and when Wilson, one of the worst, remained on), our first red-scare Congress resolved to build up a legislative wall between the chief executive and his many potential executioners. Murder was already a crime in this country, as was the attempt to commit murder, but the law did not differentiate between a president and a dirty voter, at least where victimhood was concerned, despite the fact that the president clearly was not of the people, was not a common citizen given great responsibility by the people, but was rather a great man in need of uncommon protection from the people. That is, he was a party hack, often delusional, whose permission to rob and mislead the people for the benefit of his friends had not yet been cemented into law, and whose ability to perform that function was being compromised every time one of the suckers managed to shoot him.

I hardly mean to imply that George W. Bush is a delusional party hack whose aim is to rob and mislead us for the benefit of his friends. That idea deserves to be stated outright: George W. Bush is a delusional party hack whose aim is to rob and mislead us for the benefit of his friends. What I mean to imply is that his free ride on our backs was made possible by the clever solution Congress found to its conundrum back in 1917: a law that deems guilty of a federal offense anyone who knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail . . . any letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon the President of the United States . . . or knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat. . . .

Consider for a moment the simple brilliance of the language here. It presupposes, not always wrongly, that the stupidity of the American character will demand an announcement of any grand and deadly intention beforehand, and it manages also, via that lovely invocation of the mail, to implicate as a possible assassin (and certainly an “inciter to violence”) anyone who does not adequately curb his anger in a publication. All publications were then, and most still are, conveyed through the mail. Touché.

The non-postal aspect of this edict (“or knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat”) has proved handy many times over in the persecution of those unlucky or unwise enough to swear a physical oath against the president within earshot of a fink, such as when a prospective Vietnam draftee (Watts v. United States) was overheard to say, “If they ever make me carry a rifle the first man I want to get in my sights is LBJ”; or when the Black Panther David Hilliard was said to have said, “We will kill Nixon” (and went somehow unkilled himself); or when an obviously disturbed man (United States v. Frederickson) was quoted as saying that he would “have to kill” Jimmy Carter; or when an already confined mental patient (United States v. Howell) calmly explained to a Reagan-era FBI agent that “If released, I would make my way to Washington and kill him—I will kill the president”; or when a brig-bound and pissed-off sailor (United States v. Ogren) was heard by his guard to say of Bill Clinton, “Hell, fuck the president. . . . if I could get out of here right now, I would get a gun and kill that bastard.”

Yet as much as I admire these flouters of a law that serves not public need but rather the greed of a conceited oligarchy,[1] I suspect that they are but secondary targets in this ongoing raid, and I doubt that their separation from the American flock has improved presidential safety so much as it has lessened the willingness of marginally more literate lambs, the ones who publish, to test their shepherds with anything sharper than the conventionally approved tropes of the day.

Here are those tropes: the president is ignorant; the president is cruel; the president is a zealot; the president is a tool of the corporations; the president hides his agenda from the people; the president's agenda endangers the people; the president is a thief; the president is a madman; the president is a fraternity boy; the president is a warlord; the president is a drunkard; the president is a criminal; the president is protected by his cronies; the president is a smug prevaricator; the president should be removed from office.

True, George W. Bush is an ignorant, cruel, closed-minded, avaricious, sneaky, irresponsible, thieving, brain-damaged frat boy with a drinking problem and a taste for bloodshed, whose numerous crimes have been abetted by the moral corruption of his party cohort and whose contempt for American military lives alone warrants his impeachment, but what has it ever won us to say so? How has it profited the people for their writers to argue that a wealthy, comfortable citizen deserves a wealthy, comfortable retirement when we all know full well that he has earned confinement and conviction and perhaps even a request for that barbaric death penalty he so loudly supports? What goal, besides an impoverished guarantee of my own personal “freedom,” is served by a refusal to acknowledge that I might easily, and enjoyably, rid us of this man forever with my very hands?

III.
At this point I should probably reiterate that I (that is, the corporeal, arrestable “I” that the initial “I” above will predictably be mistaken for) am a peaceful man, with no actual wish to exact payment for anyone's continued debasement of humanity by feeling the life drain out of him, slowly, through the inordinately sensitive nerves in my fingers and palms. I would much prefer that the president sleep soundly in his bed at night, even as the 2,376 American soldiers whose lives his lies have ended sleep soundly, if not so warmly, in theirs. I would ask, in fact, that the president feel no pain whatsoever, as is felt daily or hourly by the 17,469 Americans blessed by his bellicosity with their wounds. I would hope him untroubled even by guilt, as might haunt any normal human being who had caused the deaths of more than 30,000 Iraqi civilians in order, it would seem, to invite the wrath of the world's people down upon the heads of his own, so deeply does my kindness extend.

I worry, though, that this Christian attitude will buy me little leeway in the courts, and that my plea for a literal reading of these lines will be rejected in favor of a more liberal approach, and that I may have inadvertently left myself open to a charge of glibness, which I understand is even further out of fashion these days than is kindness. Therefore I have already begun the assembly of my legal team.

In the first chair I would like Floyd Abrams, who defended Judith Miller after she had converted the front page of the New York Times into a flyer for Bush's prewar propaganda and then refused to name which of her administration “sources” had blown the cover of an intelligence operative who dared to be married to a man willing to say that our government was peddling murderous bullshit. Generations may pass before we see it as such, but this was the elevation of the publicist's grind to an art form, and it was big of Floyd to hop in and defend it.

I would very much like Floyd to hop in and defend my art, too. Admittedly, mine has not yet shown itself able to maim and kill on a level commensurate with Judith's (which rates, at a minimum, 49,845 assists in the casualties quoted above), but it is not without its own quiet panache, and I imagine that it could, despite its obvious weaknesses (fairness, balance, compassion), imperil my liberty to a degree worthy of any first-rate attorney's time and gamesmanship. Why, then, when I called Floyd to discuss the central question of this essay (if not its actual thesis), and recited verbatim that standout passage wherein I ask whether I am allowed to write that I would like to hunt down George W. Bush, the president of the United States, and kill him with my bare hands, did he not respond with an immediate offer of legal representation? Why did he offer instead, in an unhurried and reflective tone, a learned gloss on the case law surrounding “language calling for criminal conduct,” which shed a great deal of light on the predicaments of others but, it seemed, precious little on my own? Why, when I steered our conversation away from protesters and KKK orators and so forth, and back toward, say, writers who cop a nonviolent attitude yet nonetheless ask a question now and then about killing the president, did Floyd say, “Are you really asking if you would be in trouble?”

I submit that Floyd behaved this way because he is a man who understands the law and believes in it. I submit that Floyd is unafraid. I submit that Floyd would have leapt to my aid had I managed to present him with a decent challenge, which someday I may. I submit that if Floyd is a peruser of what now passes for political discourse in this country he must be nearly as bored as I am. What I have written thus far is, of course, no crime at all. These words are a reference to crime, and specifically to a crime I do not personally think has any business being a crime in the first place, but they do not yet, in and of themselves, violate the statute under which, to review, it is deemed illegal to write that one (I) would like very much to take the president's throat in one's (my) hands and, with the force of opposable thumb on privileged windpipe, work the life out of it.

According to the case law, and as Floyd helpfully affirmed, a threat against the president must be a true threat in order to be judged a true crime. That is, the renderer of the vile language must give sufficient indication to any “reasonable person” who encounters it[2] that the renderer hopes earnestly to realize in the physical realm, just once, what he can experience again and again, with no harm to any of God's creatures, in the infinitely expansive realm of words. Given such a choice, only a person as unimaginative as George W. Bush would opt for the lump-sum payment.

I will not. I sincerely mean none of the violence contained in my paragraphs to be translated into those abhorrent expressions of hatred that pertain in the world beyond the page, and as long as that holds true I have neither committed an offense nor allowed the threat of unjust law to create a policeman of my own thoughts where once stood, or sat, a citizen.

As long as I (that is, the corporeal, arrestable “I”) wish no real damage upon the president, I (the other “I”) should theoretically be free even to enhance the scenario at hand for the enjoyment of my public. In place of the initial question I might ask instead, “Am I allowed to write that I would like to kidnap George W. Bush and fly him to a prison in some faraway land where his ‘rights’ are no longer an issue, there to put a bag over his head and make him stand for hours on one leg while I defecate on his New Testament before chaining his arms to the ceiling until he dies of a heart attack, after which I will claim that he never existed?” Here, though, taste, if not simple human decency, again rears its delicate head: I doubt that I could bring myself to read such a thing, let alone write it.

IV.
All the same, the answer to the question posed at the start of this essay is no. I am not allowed to write that I would like to hunt down George W. Bush and kill him with my bare hands. Floyd gave me to understand that the “true threat” idea would help me out if I did, as would the First Amendment, which still has some strength left in it despite its wasting disease, but that any outright declaration of violent intent could, and perhaps even would, be considered a violation of the law. He also urged me to keep things “satirical,” as that was going to be my defense “later on.”

Satire, I fear, may be too ambitious for my craft, but anyone who has listened to our current president knows at least how to tell a bald-faced lie:

I would like to hunt down George W. Bush, the president of the United States, and kill him with my bare hands.

Notes
1. Especially the angry seaman, who reportedly produced this further ejaculation against Clinton: “I'm going to shove a gun up his ass, and I'm going to blow his fucking brains out.” Where is that spirit today? [Back]

2. Reader, is this honestly you? [Back]

This is On Simple Human Decency, originally from June 2006, published Wednesday, June 7, 2006. It is part of Features, which is part of Harpers.org.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: mshray on June 08, 2006, 09:07:27 AM
Fuckin' A!
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Gazoo on June 12, 2006, 08:06:31 AM
Kevin Aviance, a provocative genderfucking musician who's charted several singles on the Billboard dance charts and whom I saw perform at Wigstock last year, was gay-bashed in the East Village this weekend.  His jaw is wired shut and his planned performance at NY Pride later this month is in doubt.

http://billboard.com/bbcom/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1002651593

I hope it's obvious why I'm posting this news in the Rant & Vent About the Right Wing thread.

PS: Can anyone explain to me why the general media reaction to Ann Coulter's hate speech has been, "oh, that wacky Ann, what will she say next"?  She's being permitted to break ground for America's next theme-park attraction: concentration camps for gays, nonchristians, pacifists, and other liberals.  These are not good times.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Gazoo on June 13, 2006, 07:49:39 AM
DAMMIT: Rove faces no charges:

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2006/06/13/national/w041104D80.DTL

I had assumed and hoped that he'd be facing jail time for his corruptions of democracy.  Guess we can't win 'em all.  (Hey, when are the Enron fuckers being sentenced?  They're still enjoying their stolen funds right now, aren't they?)
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on June 13, 2006, 10:55:44 AM
I never watch Leno:

http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory?id=2068998&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312

But I'm assuming if this turns out to be good, it'll end up on youtube anyway.  Bonus: musical guest is KT Tunstall.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Gazoo on June 13, 2006, 11:53:26 AM
Quote from: "RGMike"
I never watch Leno:

http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory?id=2068998&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312

But I'm assuming if this turns out to be good, it'll end up on youtube anyway.  Bonus: musical guest is KT Tunstall.


I just might watch this, will post a report if I do.  I have a standing offer of $750 to whichever of Leno's guests punches Coulter in the face.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: mshray on June 13, 2006, 12:27:46 PM
Quote from: "Gazoo"
Quote from: "RGMike"
I never watch Leno:

http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory?id=2068998&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312

But I'm assuming if this turns out to be good, it'll end up on youtube anyway.  Bonus: musical guest is KT Tunstall.


I just might watch this, will post a report if I do.  I have a standing offer of $750 to whichever of Leno's guests punches Coulter in the face.


The only way you can get me to watch Coulter on TV is if we could hang her by her toes upside down over a very large pan or dish shaped like the US and exsanguinate her into it.  Then her final visions would be of all the States turning red as her life fades to nothing.  I'd pay good money to see that.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on June 13, 2006, 12:39:24 PM
Quote from: "mshray"
Quote from: "Gazoo"
Quote from: "RGMike"
I never watch Leno:

http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory?id=2068998&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312

But I'm assuming if this turns out to be good, it'll end up on youtube anyway.  Bonus: musical guest is KT Tunstall.


I just might watch this, will post a report if I do.  I have a standing offer of $750 to whichever of Leno's guests punches Coulter in the face.


The only way you can get me to watch Coulter on TV is if we could hang her by her toes upside down over a very large pan or dish shaped like the US and exsanguinate her into it.  Then her final visions would be of all the States turning red as her life fades to nothing.  I'd pay good money to see that.


better still: she's a blueblood (rich daddy, iirc), so the states would be turning blue :wink:
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on June 16, 2006, 12:10:08 PM
Who Killed the Electric Car? indeed.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/news/archive/2006/06/16/national/w062832D56.DTL
Title: "The One Percent Doctrine"
Post by: Gazoo on June 20, 2006, 08:00:57 AM
The NY Times summarizes the Suskind book on everything we already suspected/knew to be true.  Time publishes an excerpt in its forthcoming issue but I wasn't permitted a peek on Saturday.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/20/books/20kaku.html?_r=1&pagewanted=all

Personality, Ideology and Bush's Terror Wars

By MICHIKO KAKUTANI
Published: June 20, 2006

Ron Suskind
THE ONE PERCENT DOCTRINE
Deep Inside America's Pursuit of Its Enemies Since 9/11
By Ron Suskind
367 pages. Simon & Schuster. $27.


The title of Ron Suskind's riveting new book, "The One Percent Doctrine," refers to an operating principle that he says Vice President Dick Cheney articulated shortly after 9/11: in Mr. Suskind's words, "if there was even a 1 percent chance of terrorists getting a weapon of mass destruction — and there has been a small probability of such an occurrence for some time — the United States must now act as if it were a certainty." He quotes Mr. Cheney saying that it's not about "our analysis," it's about "our response," and argues that this conviction effectively sidelines the traditional policymaking process of analysis and debate, making suspicion, not evidence, the new threshold for action.

Mr. Suskind's book — which appears to have been written with wide access to the former director of the Central Intelligence Agency, George Tenet, as well as to other C.I.A. officials and a host of sources at the F.B.I., and in the State, Defense and Treasury Departments — is sure to be as talked about as his "Price of Loyalty" (2004) and the former counterterrorism czar Richard A. Clarke's "Against All Enemies" (2004).

The book, which focuses on the 2001 to 2004 period, not only sheds new light on the Bush White House's strategic thinking and its doctrine of pre-emptive action, but also underscores the roles that personality and ideology played in shaping the administration's decision to go to war in Iraq. It describes how poorly prepared homeland security was (and is) for another terrorist attack, and looks at a series of episodes in the war on terror that often found the "invisibles," who run intelligence and enforcement operations on the ground, at odds with the "notables," who head the government.

In fleshing out key relationships among administration members — most notably, between Mr. Cheney and Mr. Bush, Mr. Bush and Mr. Tenet, and Mr. Tenet and Condoleezza Rice, then the national security adviser — it adds some big, revealing chunks to the evolving jigsaw-puzzle portrait of this White House and its modus operandi, while also giving the reader some up close and personal looks at the government's day-to-day operations in the war on terror.

In "The One Percent Doctrine," Mr. Suskind discloses that First Data Corporation — one of the world's largest processors of credit card transactions and the parent company of Western Union — began cooperating with the F.B.I. in the wake of 9/11, providing information on financial transactions and wire transfers from around the world. The huge data-gathering operation in some respects complemented the National Security Agency's domestic surveillance program (secretly authorized by Mr. Bush months after the Sept. 11 attacks), which monitored specific conversations as well as combed through large volumes of phone and Internet traffic in search of patterns that might lead to terrorism suspects.

Despite initial misgivings on the part of Western Union executives, Mr. Suskind reports, the company also worked with the C.I.A. and provided real-time information on financial transactions as they occurred.

Mr. Suskind's book also reveals that Qaeda operatives had designed a delivery system (which they called a "mubtakkar") for a lethal gas, and that the United States government had a Qaeda source who said that plans for a hydrogen cyanide attack on New York City's subway system were well under way in early 2003, but the attack was called off — for reasons that remain unclear — by Osama bin Laden's deputy, Ayman al-Zawahiri. The book also reports that Al Qaeda had produced "extremely virulent" anthrax in Afghanistan before 9/11, which "could be easily reproduced to create a quantity that could be readily weaponized."

Just as disturbing as Al Qaeda's plans and capabilities are the descriptions of the Bush administration's handling of the war on terror and its willful determination to go to war against Iraq. That war, according to the author's sources who attended National Security Council briefings in 2002, was primarily waged "to make an example" of Saddam Hussein, to "create a demonstration model to guide the behavior of anyone with the temerity to acquire destructive weapons or, in any way, flout the authority of the United States."

"The One Percent Doctrine" amplifies an emerging portrait of the administration (depicted in a flurry of recent books by authors as disparate as the Reagan administration economist Bruce Bartlett and the former Coalition Provisional Authority adviser Larry Diamond) as one eager to circumvent traditional processes of policy development and policy review, and determined to use experts (whether in the C.I.A., the Treasury Department or the military) not to help formulate policy, but simply to sell predetermined initiatives to the American public.

Mr. Suskind writes that the war on terror gave the president and vice president "vast, creative prerogatives": "to do what they want, when they want to, for whatever reason they decide" and to "create whatever reality was convenient." The potent wartime authority granted the White House in the wake of 9/11, he says, dovetailed with the administration's pre-9/11 desire to amp up executive power (diminished, Mr. Cheney and others believed, by Watergate) and to impose "message discipline" on government staffers.

"The public, and Congress, acquiesced," Mr. Suskind notes, "with little real resistance, to a 'need to know' status — told only what they needed to know, with that determination made exclusively, and narrowly, by the White House."

Within the government, he goes on, there was frequent frustration with the White House's hermetic decision-making style. "Voicing desire for a more traditional, transparent policy process," he writes, "prompted accusations of disloyalty," and "issues argued, often vociferously, at the level of deputies and principals rarely seemed to go upstream in their fullest form to the president's desk, and if they did, it was often after Bush seemed to have already made up his mind based on what was so often cited as his 'instinct' or 'gut.' "

This book augments the portrait of Mr. Bush as an incurious and curiously uninformed executive that Mr. Suskind earlier set out in "The Price of Loyalty" and in a series of magazine articles on the president and key aides. In "The One Percent Doctrine," he writes that Mr. Cheney's nickname inside the C.I.A. was Edgar (as in Edgar Bergen), casting Mr. Bush in the puppet role of Charlie McCarthy, and cites one instance after another in which the president was not fully briefed (or had failed to read the basic paperwork) about a crucial situation.

During a November 2001 session with the president, Mr. Suskind recounts, a C.I.A. briefer realized that the Pentagon had not told Mr. Bush of the C.I.A.'s urgent concern that Osama bin Laden might escape from the Tora Bora area of Afghanistan (as he indeed later did) if United States reinforcements were not promptly sent in. And several months later, he says, attendees at a meeting between Mr. Bush and the Saudis discovered after the fact that an important packet laying out the Saudis' views about the Israeli-Palestinian situation had been diverted to the vice president's office and never reached the president.

Keeping information away from the president, Mr. Suskind argues, was a calculated White House strategy that gave Mr. Bush "plausible deniability" from Mr. Cheney's point of view, and that perfectly meshed with the commander in chief's own impatience with policy details. Suggesting that Mr. Bush deliberately did not read the full National Intelligence Estimate on Iraq, which was delivered to the White House in the fall of 2002, Mr. Suskind writes: "Keeping certain knowledge from Bush — much of it shrouded, as well, by classification — meant that the president, whose each word circles the globe, could advance various strategies by saying whatever was needed. He could essentially be 'deniable' about his own statements."

"Whether Cheney's innovations were tailored to match Bush's inclinations, or vice versa, is almost immaterial," Mr. Suskind continues. "It was a firm fit. Under this strategic model, reading the entire N.I.E. would be problematic for Bush: it could hem in the president's rhetoric, a key weapon in the march to war. He would know too much."

As for Mr. Tenet, this book provides a nuanced portrait of a man with "colliding loyalties — to the president, who could have fired him after 9/11 but didn't; and to his analysts, whom he was institutionally and emotionally committed to defend." It would become an increasingly untenable position, as the White House grew more and more impatient with the C.I.A.'s reluctance to supply readily the sort of intelligence it wanted. (A Pentagon unit headed by Douglas Feith was set up as an alternative to the C.I.A., to provide, in Mr. Suskind's words, "intelligence on demand" to both Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld and the office of the vice president.)

While many C.I.A. analysts were deeply skeptical of the imminent danger posed by Mr. Hussein and simultaneously worried about the fallout of a possible invasion, the C.I.A., paradoxically enough, would become a favorite scapegoat for the administration's decision to go to war against Iraq, thanks in no small measure to Mr. Tenet's remark (quoted in Bob Woodward's 2004 book "Plan of Attack") that the existence of Iraqi weapons of mass destruction was a "slam dunk." In this volume Mr. Suskind reports that Mr. Tenet says he does not remember uttering those famous words: "Doesn't dispute it. Just doesn't remember it."

Mr. Suskind credits Mr. Tenet with deftly using his personal bonds with "key conditional partners" in the war on terror, from President Pervez Musharraf of Pakistan to King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia. He depicts the former C.I.A. director as frequently being made by the White House "to take the fall" for his superiors, on matters including the administration's handling of prewar intelligence to the 16 disputed words in the president's State of the Union address, regarding Iraq's supposed efforts to obtain uranium from Africa. Because it was Mr. Tenet "who brought analysis up the chain from the C.I.A.," Mr. Suskind writes, he "was best positioned to assume blame. And Rice was adept at laying it on Tenet."

At the same time, Mr. Suskind suggests that Mr. Tenet acted as a kind of White House enabler: he writes that in the wake of 9/11, Mr. Tenet felt a "mix of insecurity and gratitude" vis-à-vis George W. Bush, and that eager to please his boss, he repeatedly pushed C.I.A. staff members to come up with evidence that might support the president's public statements.

In the days after 9/11 Mr. Bush defended the embattled C.I.A. chief to angry congressmen, and at that point, Mr. Suskind writes: "George Tenet would do anything his President asked. Anything. And George W. Bush knew it."
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: mshray on June 20, 2006, 08:24:43 AM
Thanks for posting that!
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on June 23, 2006, 11:29:30 AM
Hitler? or Coulter? Take the quiz!

http://www.people.virginia.edu/~jac3he/GiveUpQuiz/hitlercoulterquiz.html
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: mshray on June 23, 2006, 11:35:23 AM
Quote from: "RGMike"
Hitler? or Coulter? Take the quiz!

http://www.people.virginia.edu/~jac3he/GiveUpQuiz/hitlercoulterquiz.html


that's pure genius!  And I'm pretty smart myself, I got 11 out of 14.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Gazoo on June 23, 2006, 11:55:42 AM
Quote from: "mshray"
Quote from: "RGMike"
Hitler? or Coulter? Take the quiz!

http://www.people.virginia.edu/~jac3he/GiveUpQuiz/hitlercoulterquiz.html


that's pure genius!  And I'm pretty smart myself, I got 11 out of 14.


10 / 14 here.  But remarkable how much I had to think about each one of those.
Title: Coulter ? Hitler?
Post by: ggould on June 23, 2006, 12:55:46 PM
Quote from: "Gazoo"
Quote from: "mshray"
Quote from: "RGMike"
Hitler? or Coulter? Take the quiz!
http://www.people.virginia.edu/~jac3he/GiveUpQuiz/hitlercoulterquiz.html
that's pure genius!  And I'm pretty smart myself, I got 11 out of 14.
10 / 14 here.  But remarkable how much I had to think about each one of those.

got 12 right!  Missed two Coulter I attributed to Hitler!
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on June 28, 2006, 12:37:34 PM
Miller, Gibbons, Hart, Weir and... Cheney?

http://blogs.mercurynews.com/aei/2006/06/should_we_be_an.html
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Gazoo on June 28, 2006, 07:17:16 PM
This is just too insane:

George Bush singing "Sunday Bloody Sunday" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXnO_FxmHes)
Title: totally freaky!
Post by: ggould on June 28, 2006, 09:40:12 PM
Quote from: "Gazoo"
This is just too insane:

George Bush singing "Sunday Bloody Sunday" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXnO_FxmHes)

Bloody Brilliant!
Title: Archives tracks
Post by: ggould on June 28, 2006, 09:43:00 PM
Just gotta say on the way home tonight I heard a totally lovely version of Mark Knopfler doing "Romeo and Juliet"
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: princessofcairo on June 30, 2006, 03:45:04 AM
condi meets with ben kingsley (http://usinfo.state.gov/xarchives/display.html?p=washfile-english&y=2006&m=June&x=20060628142459esnamfuak0.4638788).
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on July 11, 2006, 09:03:09 AM
Army lowers standards to meet recruitment goals, ends up with more psychos:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2006/07/11/MNG03JT3ER1.DTL

"Many of the qualities that would make you a problem in the civilian society are welcomed in the military. For example, a highly aggressive young man is precisely what the Marines are looking for ... particularly in the enlisted ranks."

To which my reaction is, DUH!
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on July 13, 2006, 08:06:23 AM
This is long, but amusing -- someone posted it on the NY Radio Message Board. (Joel Hollander, head of CBS Radio and the guy who killed Oldies in NY and Chicago and gave us "Jack", laid off a bunch of people yesterday.)

To: Joel Hollander, CBS Radio Chief
From: Kenneth Lay, Former Enron Chief, now retired in Hell

Dear Joel,

Wanted to write you a note to tell you how much I am loving your latest moves at CBS. I may be retired and sitting in a lounge chair in a very hot location, but I'm still watching your brilliant direction of the once great CBS Radio Division.

You're doing a great job and I love your latest move, firing 115 employees due to your own mistakes. You came up with both Free-FM and Jack, two ideas I wish I would have thought of at Enron!

After WNEW-FM's all silly talk format crashed and burned three years ago, you come up with the new name of Free-FM, and put the same format on stations all across the country. Bravo! Not one of them is even getting a 2 share!

And after you heard David Lee Roth a few times filling in on your Boston station, you say to yourself, this guy is my new wake-up man to replace Howard Stern! Then when DLR bombs, your underlings blame him in the press, laying the groundwork to can him WITHOUT paying him his money! Very cool, Joel. (I very much miss "cool" by the way.)

And if that's not enough, you actually bring back the radio team you fired for orchestating sex in St. Patrick's Cathedral. As O&A would say, "WOW!" I wish I had thought of doing something like that at Enron!

I marvel at your undying support of Jack in the face of all the negative publicity, firing DJs in NYC and Chicago without even giving them a chance to say goodbye! Wish I had done that to some of the senior citizens who had their retirement plans invested in Enron. I should have silenced them as you did to Harry Harrison, Bob Shannon, Bobby Jay, Bill Brown, etc.

I have to admit, I admire your tenacity, too. I've seen your appearance on CNBC, and read some of your print interviews, defending Jack. Not once have you admitted it was a terrible mistake to nationalize Jack instead of putting it in specific markets where it is suited.

I thought I did a good job saying I was innocent when reporters shoved microphones in front of me outside of the courthouse. I even invoked religion as I proclaimed my innocence. But Joel, you've got me beat.

You've brought CBS Radio to its knees faster than I did it to Enron. Just look at the combined ratings at CBS's 3 NYC FM stations. Three stations now equal less than Lite-FM by itself! Then you go and FIRE the General Manager you ordered to replace Oldies with Jack. He couldn't keep the same revenues so you fired his ass! Good for you! I also like the firing of your KROQ General Manager only months after your LA Alternative station beat Lite-FM as the station with the nation's highest revenues. (I never liked that name Trip anyway.)

I raise my glass to you Joel (if only I could get some ice cubes for this glass...) I could have used a lieutenant like you as I was dismantling Enron! Why didn't you send me your resume then? You should have written me some press releases like the one you released this week, talking about the need to reduce "headcount." Ha! Broadcasting companies who are doing well are foolishly HIRING people. But that memo you sent out made it sound like it wasn't YOUR dumb moves but the "changing climate of radio" that forced you to pink slip all those loyal employees. That's priceless, Joel!

By the way, I'm saving a lounge chair here in hell right next to mine when you're time is up, Joel. Can't wait to shake your hand then! When you find the Pearly Gates are locked to you, just look for me downstairs. Keep up the good work, buddy.


Sincerely,

Kenny-boy Lay
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Gazoo on July 13, 2006, 09:27:47 AM
That was brilliant.  The author was spot-on in recognizing the head honchos' failure to acknowledge that THEY'RE the ones who have created this "changing face of radio."  Dude, who or what do you think is changing it, if not you?  Sheesh.

Anyway, here's some quick fun: Adam Carolla (whom I'd never had use for until now) gives Ann Coulter the two-second gas face: http://www.chortler.com/24644carolla.shtml
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: princessofcairo on July 13, 2006, 09:33:46 AM
Quote from: "Gazoo"
That was brilliant.  The author was spot-on in recognizing the head honchos' failure to acknowledge that THEY'RE the ones who have created this "changing face of radio."  Dude, who or what do you think is changing it, if not you?  Sheesh.

Anyway, here's some quick fun: Adam Carolla (whom I'd never had use for until now) gives Ann Coulter the two-second gas face: http://www.chortler.com/24644carolla.shtml


i had to visit the link because of the 3rd bass reference.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on July 13, 2006, 09:35:17 AM
Quote from: "Gazoo"
That was brilliant.  The author was spot-on in recognizing the head honchos' failure to acknowledge that THEY'RE the ones who have created this "changing face of radio."  Dude, who or what do you think is changing it, if not you?  Sheesh.

Anyway, here's some quick fun: Adam Carolla (whom I'd never had use for until now) gives Ann Coulter the two-second gas face: http://www.chortler.com/24644carolla.shtml


"You're tight on time? I'm tight on time too, and I don't have time for bitches"

That made my morning.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: mshray on July 13, 2006, 09:45:36 AM
Quote from: "RGMike"
Quote from: "Gazoo"
That was brilliant.  The author was spot-on in recognizing the head honchos' failure to acknowledge that THEY'RE the ones who have created this "changing face of radio."  Dude, who or what do you think is changing it, if not you?  Sheesh.

Anyway, here's some quick fun: Adam Carolla (whom I'd never had use for until now) gives Ann Coulter the two-second gas face: http://www.chortler.com/24644carolla.shtml


"You're tight on time? I'm tight on time too, and I don't have time for bitches"

That made my morning.


Mine too!  Now I am really happy again.  Wait a minute....F*CK you boss!...okay, NOW I'm really happy again.
Title: Plame & Wilson sue Rove & Cheneny
Post by: mshray on July 13, 2006, 04:07:24 PM
Maybe the truth will out afterall.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060713/pl_nm/bush_leak_dc_5
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on July 15, 2006, 08:43:19 PM
In light of the layoffs there, the remaining KPIG jocks, bless 'em, have been playing a lot of "radio songs", especially ones about how radio sucks these days: Petty's "Last DJ", Shemeika Copeland's "Who Stole My Radio", etc.  This morning they played this song, new to me but apparently a couple years old, by a Texas singer named Terri Hendrix. The song's called "Monopoly" -- gee, can you guess what Texas-based media company she's referencing?

Supersize my fries
Bring back two apple pies
On your way out
Turn on the radio
Goodbye originality
Say hello to conformity
In the name of change
We're at an all time low

Watch what's on the TV screen
Read the paper or a magazine
And you'll see
That it's all about control
I miss the spice
In the melting pot
Of our lives
It goes down easy but it
Sure ain't got no soul

Keep it down
Keep it down
I'm gonna keep it down
And turn it up
On another day

Keep it down
Keep it down
We've gotta keep it down
And rise up
When you hear me say

There ain't no clear channel
clear channel its clear to see
One choice takes the voice
From individuality

There ain't no clear channel
clear channel its clear to see
One choice takes the voice
Away from you and away from me

At first it was the Cafe
Then the mom and pops all moved away
Now the billboards stand
Where they could not survive
The local DJ lost his show
After 20 years on the radio
Now we're stuck with what
The monopoly provides

I just want something new
To shake my soul and body to
Set up the tent I need to be revived
Make the consultant history
Keep the playlist a mystery
Don't make up my mind for me
Cause I'm still alive

Hey Hey FCC Don't you turn your back on me


You can listen to it via her website: www.terrihendrix.com/aorwlyrics.html
Title: KPI, etc.
Post by: ggould on July 15, 2006, 11:30:54 PM
Quote from: "RGMike"
In light of the layoffs there, the remaining KPIG jocks, bless 'em, have been playing a lot of "radio songs", especially ones about how radio sucks these days

Just today I was almost thinking we're living in a golden age of radio, not sure how long it will last.  When I'm in the car, I get to listen to KPIG, when I'm at the office, during non-10@10 time I get to listen to KRSH.  When the real golden age (KYA-KMPX-KSAN) was going on, I didn't have as much access!
Title: Re: KPI, etc.
Post by: RGMike on July 16, 2006, 10:42:57 AM
Quote from: "ggould"
Quote from: "RGMike"
In light of the layoffs there, the remaining KPIG jocks, bless 'em, have been playing a lot of "radio songs", especially ones about how radio sucks these days

Just today I was almost thinking we're living in a golden age of radio, not sure how long it will last.  When I'm in the car, I get to listen to KPIG, when I'm at the office, during non-10@10 time I get to listen to KRSH.  When the real golden age (KYA-KMPX-KSAN) was going on, I didn't have as much access!


I guess "golden" is a relative term. Even KPIG or KRSH at their best aren't the same as true "free-form" progressive FM from the late '60s/early '70s. But the fact that those 2 excellent stations exist within driving distance of each other means we are lucky indeed to be living in the Bay Area.  And the technology that enables us to hear VIP, CG, the various 10@10s, that station in Austin (definitely in the KRSH/KPIG ballpark, you'd like 'em) etc etc certainly makes life a lot more interesting.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on July 18, 2006, 08:51:03 AM
Holy S--t!

I somehow missed this story over the weekend. Was anyone else aware of it?

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1002840572
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Gazoo on July 18, 2006, 08:57:11 AM
Quote from: "RGMike"
Holy S--t!

I somehow missed this story over the weekend. Was anyone else aware of it?

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1002840572


It actually managed to be the top story at CNN.com for a while yesterday.  I'm sure that between the war escalation in the Middle East and this, I would have opted for "OMG BUSH SAID A DOODY"
Title: heard on Ed Shultz show
Post by: ggould on July 18, 2006, 11:24:35 AM
Quote from: "RGMike"
Holy S--t!

I somehow missed this story over the weekend. Was anyone else aware of it?

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1002840572

Heard about it yesterday, and last night of course on the Daily Show, but Ed's point was the profanity was no big deal, compared to Bush's actual intentt that somehow Kofi Annan could just pickup the phone and make it all go away!  What a doofus!
Title: Re: heard on Ed Shultz show
Post by: Gazoo on July 18, 2006, 11:57:27 AM
Quote from: "ggould"
Heard about it yesterday, and last night of course on the Daily Show, but Ed's point was the profanity was no big deal, compared to Bush's actual intentt that somehow Kofi Annan could just pickup the phone and make it all go away!  What a doofus!

Speaking of which, it bears noting that if Bush wanted Kofi, and the U.N., to be at all effectual, perhaps he shouldn't have appointed to it an "ambassador" who's openly hostile toward them.  I am genuinely surprised that John Bolton didn't terminate his, and the U.S.'s, involvement with the U.N. months ago.
Title: Collective Short Term Memory
Post by: ggould on July 19, 2006, 07:52:03 PM
sometimes it seems like Bush is brilliantly executing a phenomenal misdirection play.  Everyday seems to bring some new, incredibly lame event, which takes the focus off of the day before's incredible lame event.  The public is dazzled by each new day, and loses track of all the individual crimes being committed.

Oy!

(http://media.canada.com/9a5080ed-4136-4dca-a2be-623a3827fb9d/bush071706.jpg)
Title: Re: Collective Short Term Memory
Post by: mshray on July 21, 2006, 10:08:47 AM
Quote from: "ggould"
sometimes it seems like Bush is brilliantly executing a phenomenal misdirection play.  Everyday seems to bring some new, incredibly lame event, which takes the focus off of the day before's incredible lame event.  The public is dazzled by each new day, and loses track of all the individual crimes being committed.

Oy!

(http://media.canada.com/9a5080ed-4136-4dca-a2be-623a3827fb9d/bush071706.jpg)


As if to prove your point...have any of you seen THIS yet!?!?!  Bush sneaks up on German Chancellor Andrea Merkel at the recent G8 summit & gives her an unsolicited backrub.

(http://www.truthdig.com/images/eartothegrounduploads/bush_massage_350.jpg)

see here for more:http://www.truthdig.com/eartotheground/item/20060718_groper_in_chief/
Title: Re: Collective Short Term Memory
Post by: princessofcairo on July 21, 2006, 10:18:32 AM
Quote from: "mshray"
Quote from: "ggould"
sometimes it seems like Bush is brilliantly executing a phenomenal misdirection play.  Everyday seems to bring some new, incredibly lame event, which takes the focus off of the day before's incredible lame event.  The public is dazzled by each new day, and loses track of all the individual crimes being committed.

Oy!

(http://media.canada.com/9a5080ed-4136-4dca-a2be-623a3827fb9d/bush071706.jpg)


As if to prove your point...have any of you seen THIS yet!?!?!  Bush sneaks up on German Chancellor Andrea Merkel at the recent G8 summit & gives her an unsolicited backrub.

(http://www.truthdig.com/images/eartothegrounduploads/bush_massage_350.jpg)

see here for more:http://www.truthdig.com/eartotheground/item/20060718_groper_in_chief/


dude. if there's one thing i've learned being a wannabe euro citizen: never touch the germans without their consent!
Title: Re: Collective Short Term Memory
Post by: mshray on July 21, 2006, 10:20:41 AM
Quote from: "princessofcairo"
Quote from: "mshray"
Quote from: "ggould"
sometimes it seems like Bush is brilliantly executing a phenomenal misdirection play.  Everyday seems to bring some new, incredibly lame event, which takes the focus off of the day before's incredible lame event.  The public is dazzled by each new day, and loses track of all the individual crimes being committed.

Oy!

(http://media.canada.com/9a5080ed-4136-4dca-a2be-623a3827fb9d/bush071706.jpg)


As if to prove your point...have any of you seen THIS yet!?!?!  Bush sneaks up on German Chancellor Andrea Merkel at the recent G8 summit & gives her an unsolicited backrub.

(http://www.truthdig.com/images/eartothegrounduploads/bush_massage_350.jpg)

see here for more:http://www.truthdig.com/eartotheground/item/20060718_groper_in_chief/


dude. if there's one thing i've learned being a wannabe euro citizen: never touch the germans without their consent!


Can there be any doubt that he's back on the sauce after this?
Title: Re: Collective Short Term Memory
Post by: RGMike on July 21, 2006, 10:21:18 AM
Quote from: "princessofcairo"
Quote from: "mshray"
Quote from: "ggould"
sometimes it seems like Bush is brilliantly executing a phenomenal misdirection play.  Everyday seems to bring some new, incredibly lame event, which takes the focus off of the day before's incredible lame event.  The public is dazzled by each new day, and loses track of all the individual crimes being committed.

Oy!

(http://media.canada.com/9a5080ed-4136-4dca-a2be-623a3827fb9d/bush071706.jpg)


As if to prove your point...have any of you seen THIS yet!?!?!  Bush sneaks up on German Chancellor Andrea Merkel at the recent G8 summit & gives her an unsolicited backrub.

(http://www.truthdig.com/images/eartothegrounduploads/bush_massage_350.jpg)

see here for more:http://www.truthdig.com/eartotheground/item/20060718_groper_in_chief/


dude. if there's one thing i've learned being a wannabe euro citizen: never touch the germans without their consent!


Jon Stewart said "if that had been Clinton, her bra would've come off. I'm just sayin'..."
Title: Re: heard on Ed Shultz show
Post by: Gazoo on July 22, 2006, 10:33:18 AM
Quote from: "Gazoo"
Quote from: "ggould"
Heard about it yesterday, and last night of course on the Daily Show, but Ed's point was the profanity was no big deal, compared to Bush's actual intentt that somehow Kofi Annan could just pickup the phone and make it all go away!  What a doofus!

Speaking of which, it bears noting that if Bush wanted Kofi, and the U.N., to be at all effectual, perhaps he shouldn't have appointed to it an "ambassador" who's openly hostile toward them.  I am genuinely surprised that John Bolton didn't terminate his, and the U.S.'s, involvement with the U.N. months ago.


Moving further with this point, here's the NY Times' assessment:

Bolton's Ways Foil Goals, U.N. Envoys Say (http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/23/world/23bolton.html?ei=5094&en=5416bb2262466f9b&hp=&ex=1153627200&partner=homepage&pagewanted=all)

Bolton’s Ways Foil Goals, U.N. Envoys Say

By WARREN HOGE
Published: July 23, 2006

UNITED NATIONS, July 22 — In recent months, as one international crisis followed another, John R. Bolton has fulfilled the role of the United Nations’ most influential ambassador at full strength, firmly articulating the position of the United States government regarding Iran, North Korea and the Middle East.

His performance won over at least one crucial critic, Senator George V. Voinovich, Republican of Ohio. Mr. Voinovich’s opposition a year ago forced Mr. Bolton to take the job as a presidential recess appointment, an arrangement that expires at the end of this Congress in January.

The Senate Foreign Relations Committee has scheduled a hearing this Thursday on Mr. Bolton’s renomination, and a floor vote could come in September. Mr. Voinovich said he would vote for Mr. Bolton this time.

The Bush administration is not popular at the United Nations, where it is often perceived as disdainful of diplomacy, and its policies as heedless of the effects on others and single-minded in the willful assertion of American interests. By extension, then, many diplomats say they see Mr. Bolton as a stand-in for the arrogance of the administration itself.

But diplomats focus particularly on an area with less evidence of instructions from Washington and more of Mr. Bolton’s personal touch, the mission that he has described as his priority: overhauling the institution’s discredited management. Envoys say he has in fact endangered that effort by alienating traditional allies. They say he combatively asserts American leadership, contests procedures at the mannerly, rules-bound United Nations and then shrugs off the organization when it does not follow his lead.

Six ambassadors separately offered similar accounts of an incident in June that they said captured the situation. All were from nations in Europe, the Pacific and Latin America that consider themselves close allies of the United States, and they asked to speak anonymously in commenting on a fellow envoy.

Mr. Bolton that day burst into a packed committee hall, produced a cordless microphone and began to lecture envoys from developing nations about their weakening of a proposal to tighten management of the United Nations, his chief goal.

Gaveled to silence, he threw up his hands and said, “Well, so much for trying something different.”

It was not merely rude, the ambassadors said. One recalled that moments later, his BlackBerry flashed a message from another envoy working on management change. “He just busted us apart,” it read.

Three weeks later, on June 30, the 191-member General Assembly upended Mr. Bolton’s strategy to force change, lifting a six-month budget cap that he engineered without agreeing to significant management improvements. Dumisani Kumalo, South African ambassador and the leader of the Group of 77, which represents 132 developing nations, said Mr. Bolton’s “putting on budget caps and being very contentious” had increased his group’s resistance.

The envoys will not, of course, have any say about whether Mr. Bolton receives the full appointment to the United Nations. But their concerns over his methods extend to issues that the senators will undoubtedly have to weigh: his ability to build coalitions and reach consensus.

Mr. Bolton, whose knowledge of the United Nations is deep from his past service as assistant secretary of state for international organization affairs, said he did not believe his manner was confrontational. “It’s not a question of personal style so much as it is a way of articulating a position that puts American interests in the best light,” he said. “And I think in some cases people are unfamiliar with that, but I don’t think that’s confrontational. I think that’s a matter of clarity.”

In particular, he said, in the June episode, he had been simply trying to provoke honest debate.

“I said to myself, maybe there’s a way to do something a little unusual here,” he said. “I know it didn’t work, but I think that’s part of what we have to do to shake things up here, to try to do something a little different, a little creative, to try to talk back and forth and engage in a colloquy as if we were on the floor of a parliament.”

He has plenty of backers who remain convinced that only that kind of tough presence can alter the institution. Perhaps his strongest and longest standing supporter is Senator Norm Coleman, the Minnesota Republican who is a leading critic of the way the United Nations functions.

“What John offers is what the U.S. needs at the U.N. today,” he said in an interview. “John is the right kind of change agent in a universe that is resistant to change. In order to get reform done, you’re going to have to push, you have to be assertive.”

Sean McCormack, the State Department spokesman, said, “He has done an extraordinary job representing the U.S. during what has turned out to be an extraordinary time at the U.N., and Secretary Rice thinks he’s doing a terrific job.”

But over the past month, more than 30 ambassadors consulted in the preparation of this article who share the United States’ goal of changing United Nations management practices expressed misgivings over Mr. Bolton’s leadership.

Representative Bill Delahunt of Massachusetts, the top Democrat on an international relations subcommittee that focuses on the United Nations, said that in a visit here last month he had encountered “frustration and resentment over the U.S. performance at the U.N.”

And outside experts also expressed concerns.

“I actually agree with Bolton on what has to be done at the U.N., but his confrontational tactics have been very dysfunctional for the U.S. purpose,” said Edward C. Luck, a professor of international affairs at Columbia who has followed the United Nations for three decades. “To be successful at the U.N., you have to build coalitions, and if you take unilateral action the way Bolton has, you’re isolated, and if you’re isolated, you can’t achieve much.”

William H. Luers, president of the United Nations Association of the United States, an independent support group, said, “There clearly are occasions when you have to put your foot down, but if you put your foot down every day, it unravels any diplomatic assets you have.”

Asked about the allied ambassadors’ broad criticisms, Mr. Bolton said, “What I object to as a matter of tactics is compromising with ourselves before we compromise with our opponents, and by compromising with ourselves, I mean compromising with our friends, too.”

Mr. Bolton came to the United Nations on Aug. 2 last year after a bruising battle in the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. Democrats on the committee cited accusations that he bullied subordinates, shaped intelligence reports to reflect his policy views and tried to engineer the removal of a C.I.A. official who disagreed with him. They also noted scornful references he had made about the United Nations like his comment that 10 floors of the Secretariat building could be lopped off without being missed.

He immediately stood out from the silken diplomatic crowd with a white shaving-brush mustache, the bouncy walk of a fighter entering the ring and a blunt sense of humor that can veer abruptly from lighthearted to cutting.

In the months after his arrival, ambassadors said that despite his history of putdowns of the United Nations, they were impressed by his work ethic and knowledge of his brief and thought they could collaborate with him.

Now the reaction is different. “My initial feeling was, let’s see if we can work with him, and I have done some things to push for consensus on issues that were not easy for my country,” said an ambassador with close ties to the Bush administration.

“But all he gives us in return is, ‘It doesn’t matter, whatever you do is insufficient,’ ” he said. “He’s lost me as an ally now, and that’s what many other ambassadors who consider themselves friends of the U.S. are saying.”

A European envoy said that Mr. Bolton was a difficult ally for his traditionally pro-American group because he often staked out unilateral hard-line positions in the media or Congress and then proved unwilling to compromise in the give and take of negotiations.

In the aftermath of a 170-to-4 vote last spring on creating a Human Rights Council, which the United States opposed, Peter Maurer, the ambassador of Switzerland, characterized the American approach as “intransigent and maximalist.”

“All too often,” he said, “high ambitions are cover-ups for less noble aims, and oriented not at improving the United Nations, but at belittling and weakening it.”

Mr. Bolton’s habit of avoiding any favorable mention of the United Nations while seizing many opportunities to disparage it is so well established that Senator Paul S. Sarbanes, a Maryland Democrat, observed to him in a May hearing of the Foreign Relations Committee, “The role of constant scold I’m not sure is the best way to induce change.”

An envoy of a country close to the United States complained that Mr. Bolton often stayed away from meetings, leaving ambassadors in the dark about American positions, then produced 11th-hour amendments and demands for reopening points that had been painfully muscled into consensus.

“We are all like cooks, and the U.S. is sitting on the sidewalk and when we have this platter cooked, the U.S. comes in and says it was the wrong dish, you were cooking chicken and we wanted meat,” said an envoy from a country close to the United States.

On June 30, Mr. Bolton stunned a group of allied ambassadors. As they waited in the office of Jan Eliasson, the president of the General Assembly, to approve a plan to review thousands of outdated and redundant directives, word arrived that Mr. Bolton had cut a side deal to postpone the effort. And he had done so with the three countries viewed as the proposal’s most vocal opponents, Egypt, India and South Africa.

Mr. Bolton explained the incident by saying, “What I was trying to do was sit down with people whose positions diverge the most with the United States and, rather than work through indirection, negotiate directly.”

But an envoy from a country that always votes with the United States said: “That came as very shocking and disappointing to us. We usually work very closely with him, but sometimes, I guess, you get surprised.”
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: princessofcairo on July 24, 2006, 09:18:51 AM
only in america (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSJaA22D2p8&search=george%20bush%20stupid)
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on July 28, 2006, 07:30:48 AM
PBS fires kid-show host for snarkily adult vid clip from seven years ago! Mark Morford fumes:

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/gate/archive/2006/07/28/notes072806.DTL
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on September 11, 2006, 03:09:08 PM
Moby to Dubya: Drop Dead

http://www.stereogum.com/archives/003339.html
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: princessofcairo on September 11, 2006, 03:37:19 PM
Quote from: "RGMike"
Moby to Dubya: Drop Dead

http://www.stereogum.com/archives/003339.html


why can't moby spell? (http://www.moby.com/journal/2006-09-07/baby_suri.html)
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on September 11, 2006, 09:13:40 PM
so, does ESPN have to give Phil Angeledes equal time after the big wet kiss of a photo op they gave Ah-nuld during Mon Nite Football? Ah-nuld introducing a hero fireman on the 9/11 anniv. Yeesh.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on September 15, 2006, 07:24:32 AM
Nancy Grace is evil and must be destroyed...

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2006/09/15/MNGSAL67FH1.DTL
Title: You must read this all the way to the end!
Post by: mshray on September 15, 2006, 09:25:20 AM
An Alternate 9/11 History
By staying 'humble,' as he promised in 2000, Bush preserved much of the post-9/11 good will abroad.
By Jonathan Alter
Newsweek

Sept. 18, 2006 issue - Five years after 9/11, the world is surprisingly peaceful. President Bush's pragmatic and bipartisan leadership has kept the United States not just strong but unexpectedly popular across the globe. The president himself is poised to enjoy big GOP wins in the midterm elections, a validation of his subtle understanding of the challenges facing the country. A new survey of historians puts him in the first tier of American presidents.

As Bush warned, catching terrorists wasn't easy, but he kept at it. At the battle of Tora Bora, CIA operatives on the ground cabled Washington that Osama bin Laden was cornered, but they desperately needed troop support. Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld immediately dispatched fresh forces, and the evildoer was killed. While bin Laden was seen as a martyr in a few isolated areas, the bulk of the Arab world had been in sympathy with the United States after 9/11 and shed no tears. After their capture, Khalid Shaikh Mohammed and other 9/11 terrorists were transported to the United States, where they were tried and quickly executed.

Today, Al Qaeda remains a threat but its opportunities for recruitment have been scarce, and the involvement of the entire international community has helped dramatically reduce terrorist attacks worldwide. Because Bush believes diplomacy requires talking to adversaries as well as friends, even Syria and Iraq were forced to help. By staying "humble," as he promised in 2000, he preserved much of the post-9/11 good feeling abroad, which paid dividends when it came time to pull together a coalition to handle North Korea and Iran.

At home, some aides suggested that Bush simply tell the nation to "go shopping." But the president knew he had a precious opportunity to ask Americans for real sacrifice. He took John McCain's suggestion and pushed through Congress an ambitious national-service program that bolstered communities and helped train citizens as first responders.

Soon Bush put the country on a Manhattan Project crash course to get off oil. He bluntly told Detroit that it was embarrassing that Chinese automakers had better fuel efficiency, he classified SUVs as cars, and he imposed a stiff gas tax with a rebate for the working poor. To pay for it, he abandoned his tax cuts for the wealthy, reminding the country that no president in history had ever cut taxes in the middle of a war. This president would be damned if he was going to put more oil money into the pockets of Middle Eastern hatemongers who had killed nearly 3,000 of our people. To dramatize the point, he drove to his 2002 State of the Union address in a hybrid car. Sales soared.

When Karl Rove suggested that the war on terror would make a perfect wedge issue against Democrats in the 2002 midterms, Bush brought him up short. Didn't Rove understand that bipartisanship is good politics? Lincoln and FDR had both gone bipartisan during wartime, he reminded his aide. So when evidence of torture at the prison camp in Guantánamo Bay surfaced and Rumsfeld was forced to resign, former Democratic senator Sam Nunn got the job. With post-9/11 unity still at least partially intact in 2004, Bush was re-elected in a landslide.

Taking a cue from Lincoln's impatience with his generals, Bush was merciless about poor performance on homeland security. When the head of the FBI couldn't fix the bureau's computers in a year's time to "connect the dots," he was out. And Bush had no patience for excuse-making about leaky port security, unsecured chemical plants and first responders whose radios didn't communicate. If someone had told him that five years after 9/11 these problems would still be unsolved, Bush would have laughed him out of the office.

In 2003, Vice President Cheney advised the president to take out Iraq's Saddam Hussein militarily. But Bush was beginning to understand that his veep, while sounding full of gravitas, was in fact reckless. When it became clear that Saddam posed no imminent threat, Bush resolved to neuter him, Kaddafi style. When the president found, after a little asking around, that the 10-year cost of invading Iraq would be a crushing $1.2 trillion, he opted out of this war of choice.

Five years after that awful September day, even Bush's fiercest critics have learned an important lesson: leadership counts. Imagine if we'd done the opposite of these things. This country—and the world—would be in a heap of trouble.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on September 15, 2006, 09:29:03 AM
that is absolute genius, Mark.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Gazoo on September 15, 2006, 10:13:45 AM
Also worth perusing: Niall Ferguson, in last week's Time, speculating on how this all could play out over the next 25 years: (caution: it's LONG)

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1531303,00.html
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on September 15, 2006, 12:32:41 PM
very scary but not surprising:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14836500/
Title: Re: You must read this all the way to the end!
Post by: RGMike on September 16, 2006, 10:55:40 AM
Quote from: "mshray"
An Alternate 9/11 History...


So I emailed this to a bunch of people, one of them sent me this from Salon.com:

America: Battered Wife. (An Intervention)

Dear America,

As a friend of the family I can’t sit back and watch you do this to yourself without saying something. Consider this a long distance intervention.

Your man is no good. He treats you like crap, lies to you, abuses you, bullies you, exploits you, takes your money. As a friend I want to tell you that you deserve better. You deserve a person that treats you with respect, cares about your welfare, and your children’s welfare, but that’s not George and it never will be.

Do you tell yourself that he’ll stop, or that it won’t get worse? He won’t ever stop, every insult, injury and death he has caused are a line that once crossed will never be uncrossed. Forget the dream. You will never have the American dream with George. You have to forget about what might have been, what George might have been, and realise that at the end of the day you are what you do, and look at George’s track record.

Notice how he’s alienated all your friends? Who can blame them, they can’t understand why you stay with him when he treats you like shit and embarrasses you in front of everybody. The more his public behaviour overshadows yours, The more doubt creeps over them, they wonder if they knew you as well as they thought they did. You seem to have changed - if you condone his behaviour- and your silence can create the impression that you do. People are more inclined to take things at face value when they feel alienated. Your friends remember the good times you had together, the heroic battles you fought together, all of the intricate interweavings between their families and yours through time and space. Do you even recognise yourself anymore America? He is a drunken, coke-addled loser and he always will be, you should kick him out of your house today before he can destroy any more members of your family, your history, your culture, before he decimates your bank account so irretrievably that China and Saudi Arabia repossess all your stuff.

YOU CAN DO BETTER! You are an amazing country, beautiful, interesting, funny, positively glamorous, you wouldn’t stay single for five minutes, you know that suitors would be competing for your affections and any one of them would be ten times better than George. And how can you stand his god-awful Stepford’s answer to Marie-Antoinette mother, piping up with another casual atrocity every time she opens her mouth.

Because of George and his friends global warming is now upon us - I know what it has cost your family already, combined with George’s complete uselessness and indifference in a crisis. It would probably now be possible for a mathematician to calculate exactly how much of all of our futures we are losing for every minute you stay with that sick,twisted, idiot.

I see you doing what everyone in your position does - you end up looking to the perpetrator for comfort because theres no one else left, and look at how he reacts for Christ’s sake, look at what he did to New Orleans, and you should know that yet again he did it in front of all of your friends, all of us saw nothing happening whilst thousands died, all of us heard Ray Negen and the president of Jefferson Parish (I must heard him 30+ times now and I still cry every time) and all of us heard George’s bloody mother. We have been trying to help and he won’t let us. We are all appalled and aghast, it breaks our hearts to see him hurting you like this, and you not fighting back, you just take it and take it as it slowly spirals down into the pits of hell. What will it take America, will you let him kill you before you’ll kick him out? This is not rhetoric America, he is killing you every day you stay with him. If I had described your relationship with George to you back when you were still with Bill you never would have believed me. He degrades you in little increments, every day he erodes your assets as well as your dignity, your reputation, your legacy and your life America.

All of our TV crews were rescuing survivors as they filmed the devastation because there was nobody else there to help them, all of us saw the victims being treated like some sudden new insurgency. with suspicion and hostility. Those poor people, the heart & soul of New Orleans, the very people whose culture and history made New Orleans beloved around the world, He just left your brothers and sisters to die. Can you really continue in your relationship with George after this? There is a degree at which cognitive dissonance becomes outright delusion. He is a maniac, he is destroying your life, please, please leave him, just leave him, only you have the power to make it stop.

He is selling out your family business, if you let him continue like this how are you going to live? How are you going to feed your children, what happens if you get ill? Everything he has ever touched has turned to shit, he puts any idiot that’ll kiss his ass into positions of power and New Orleans is the result. Kick him out America! Do it today! I know it feels like you would be leaping into a void, but I promise you, you will be leaping out of one. Your friends will come back as soon as they see you are back to your old self, they really miss you. I know that less than 36% of your heart is still in it. Go with the 67% of you, that 36% is just that vestigial, primitive part of the brain that clings to the familiar no matter how badly the familiar sucks.

It all comes down to you, America. I know no-one likes other people passing comment on their relationships but this is an extreme situation. You are in very real danger, he is hurting you everyday and he is hurting us, your friends as well. But only you can make it stop. We are all rooting for you, although we don’t get to talk to you very often anymore, because he cuts us off from you. We are on your side, we will all be over the moon the day you finally kick him out. You know he really should be thrown in jail for the things he has done to you. Him and all of his gangster friends.

Please, please, do it America, you know I am right. If not for yourself then do it for your brothers and sisters and children. Do it before he kills any more of your family or anyone else’s. We are all really worried for your welfare.

Your friend,

Gail
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on September 26, 2006, 09:05:48 AM
Been hearing those commercials on KBCO for this guy Bill Winter, one of those Democratic military vets who's running for Congress:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/1/31/94744/2953

worth a read -- the Repugnican he's running against is a real asshole.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on September 27, 2006, 08:01:09 AM
as you may have heard, Ah-nuld has a double-digit lead over Angelides:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2006/09/27/MNGC4LDHSB1.DTL

As a registered Dem, I am embarrassed and disgusted at the godawful campaign we are running. A year ago Ah-nuld's approval ratings were in the toilet. Now he can seemingly do no wrong. Angelides is a tired hack -- if your only strategy is to repeatedly show clips of Ah-nuld campaigning for Dubya 2 years ago... you are desperate and clueless.  Westly would've been a far better candidate IMHO.  Sad, sad, sad.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: mshray on September 29, 2006, 01:00:25 PM
Perhaps this means one more seat for the Dems in November...

...but after you read this, answer me this question - wouldn't he win in a landslide if he represented South Beach?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060929/pl_nm/usa_politics_foley_dc_1
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on September 29, 2006, 01:23:44 PM
Quote from: "mshray"
Perhaps this means one more seat for the Dems in November...

...but after you read this, answer me this question - wouldn't he win in a landslide if he represented South Beach?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060929/pl_nm/usa_politics_foley_dc_1


ah, those GOP Family Values...

someone on Outsports just said "Foley has long been rumored to be gay" but I don't know if that's true.  He'd do well in S Beach if he pulled a McGreevey and admitted to being "a gay American" :wink:   (He actually represents West Palm Beach -- lots of rich old Republican queens there, I'll wager!)  I'll be interested to find out how rabidly anti-gay his voting record is.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on September 29, 2006, 01:32:27 PM
Quote from: "RGMike"
Quote from: "mshray"
Perhaps this means one more seat for the Dems in November...

...but after you read this, answer me this question - wouldn't he win in a landslide if he represented South Beach?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060929/pl_nm/usa_politics_foley_dc_1


ah, those GOP Family Values...

someone on Outsports just said "Foley has long been rumored to be gay" but I don't know if that's true.  He'd do well in S Beach if he pulled a McGreevey and admitted to being "a gay American" :wink:   (He actually represents West Palm Beach -- lots of rich old Republican queens there, I'll wager!)  I'll be interested to find out how rabidly anti-gay his voting record is.


From Wikipedia, FWIW:

"In 2003, Foley was widely considered the Republican frontrunner for Bob Graham's Senate seat, especially after Graham had announced his retirement. However, longstanding rumors surfaced that Foley was either gay or bisexual and was in a longterm relationship with another man. The story was initially published only in the gay press;[1] [2] then the New Times broke the story in the mainstream press. Other papers, including the New York Press,[3] then addressed the topic. Foley held a press conference to denounce the "revolting" rumors and stated that his sexual orientation was unimportant"

also per Wiki-P, he's considered moderate-to-lib on gay issues and is pro-choice as well.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: mshray on September 29, 2006, 01:51:32 PM
Quote from: "RGMike"
Quote from: "RGMike"
Quote from: "mshray"
Perhaps this means one more seat for the Dems in November...

...but after you read this, answer me this question - wouldn't he win in a landslide if he represented South Beach?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060929/pl_nm/usa_politics_foley_dc_1


ah, those GOP Family Values...

someone on Outsports just said "Foley has long been rumored to be gay" but I don't know if that's true.  He'd do well in S Beach if he pulled a McGreevey and admitted to being "a gay American" :wink:   (He actually represents West Palm Beach -- lots of rich old Republican queens there, I'll wager!)  I'll be interested to find out how rabidly anti-gay his voting record is.


From Wikipedia, FWIW:

"In 2003, Foley was widely considered the Republican frontrunner for Bob Graham's Senate seat, especially after Graham had announced his retirement. However, longstanding rumors surfaced that Foley was either gay or bisexual and was in a longterm relationship with another man. The story was initially published only in the gay press;[1] [2] then the New Times broke the story in the mainstream press. Other papers, including the New York Press,[3] then addressed the topic. Foley held a press conference to denounce the "revolting" rumors and stated that his sexual orientation was unimportant"

also per Wiki-P, he's considered moderate-to-lib on gay issues and is pro-choice as well.


Interesting.  But what really piques my interest is that I'm quite sure that A) the Dems never thought they had a shot at his seat & B) if the Repugnicans couldn't get Tom DeLay's name switched off the Texas ballot two months ago, there's no way they can get Foley's name off with only 5 weeks to go.  Therefore C) the Dem candidate in that district is now for all intents and purposes running upposed.  The Repugnicans now have an even smaller margin of error.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on September 29, 2006, 02:12:15 PM
Quote from: "mshray"
But what really piques my interest is that I'm quite sure that A) the Dems never thought they had a shot at his seat & B) if the Repugnicans couldn't get Tom DeLay's name switched off the Texas ballot two months ago, there's no way they can get Foley's name off with only 5 weeks to go.  Therefore C) the Dem candidate in that district is now for all intents and purposes running upposed.  The Repugnicans now have an even smaller margin of error.


Indeed, and right on. I'm certainly not interested in "claiming" the guy as part of the gay community -- not if he used the word "revolting" to describe the gay rumor when all the while he was propositioning 16-year-olds.  And indeed, the boy's age is the real issue here, as far as why Foley resigned: he was chairman of the House Caucus on Missing and Exploited Children! er... HELLO???
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Gazoo on September 29, 2006, 03:07:45 PM
Quote from: "mshray"
Quote from: "RGMike"
Quote from: "RGMike"
Quote from: "mshray"
Perhaps this means one more seat for the Dems in November...

...but after you read this, answer me this question - wouldn't he win in a landslide if he represented South Beach?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060929/pl_nm/usa_politics_foley_dc_1


ah, those GOP Family Values...

someone on Outsports just said "Foley has long been rumored to be gay" but I don't know if that's true.  He'd do well in S Beach if he pulled a McGreevey and admitted to being "a gay American" :wink:   (He actually represents West Palm Beach -- lots of rich old Republican queens there, I'll wager!)  I'll be interested to find out how rabidly anti-gay his voting record is.


From Wikipedia, FWIW:

"In 2003, Foley was widely considered the Republican frontrunner for Bob Graham's Senate seat, especially after Graham had announced his retirement. However, longstanding rumors surfaced that Foley was either gay or bisexual and was in a longterm relationship with another man. The story was initially published only in the gay press;[1] [2] then the New Times broke the story in the mainstream press. Other papers, including the New York Press,[3] then addressed the topic. Foley held a press conference to denounce the "revolting" rumors and stated that his sexual orientation was unimportant"

also per Wiki-P, he's considered moderate-to-lib on gay issues and is pro-choice as well.


Interesting.  But what really piques my interest is that I'm quite sure that A) the Dems never thought they had a shot at his seat & B) if the Repugnicans couldn't get Tom DeLay's name switched off the Texas ballot two months ago, there's no way they can get Foley's name off with only 5 weeks to go.  Therefore C) the Dem candidate in that district is now for all intents and purposes running upposed.  The Repugnicans now have an even smaller margin of error.


Alas, thus spake AP (via CNN.com):

"According to The Associated Press, Florida Republicans could name a replacement candidate for Foley as soon as Monday. Foley's name will appear on the midterm ballots and cannot be changed, but any votes for Foley will count toward the party's choice, AP reported."

(I have no idea why this is so.)
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on September 29, 2006, 03:21:34 PM
Quote from: "Gazoo"
Alas, thus spake AP (via CNN.com):

"According to The Associated Press, Florida Republicans could name a replacement candidate for Foley as soon as Monday. Foley's name will appear on the midterm ballots and cannot be changed, but any votes for Foley will count toward the party's choice, AP reported."

(I have no idea why this is so.)


I think it may vary from state to state.  Remember when Ashcroft got beat by a dead guy in Missouri?
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: mshray on September 29, 2006, 03:42:25 PM
Quote from: "RGMike"
Quote from: "Gazoo"
Alas, thus spake AP (via CNN.com):

"According to The Associated Press, Florida Republicans could name a replacement candidate for Foley as soon as Monday. Foley's name will appear on the midterm ballots and cannot be changed, but any votes for Foley will count toward the party's choice, AP reported."

(I have no idea why this is so.)


I think it may vary from state to state.  Remember when Ashcroft got beat by a dead guy in Missouri?


And I'm proud to say that both my parents voted for that dead guy.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on September 29, 2006, 08:36:26 PM
Quote from: "RGMike"
He'd do well in S Beach if he pulled a McGreevey and admitted to being "a gay American" :wink:  


TANC of the week: Just caught McGreevey on the Daily Show replay from last nite. Stewart asked him : "Presidential Election 2008 -- Who comes out of the closet first? Hillary Clinton or Condi Rice?"
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on October 03, 2006, 09:32:59 PM
So I caught the Daily Show coverage of the Foley thing -- basically they devoted the whole show to it, as (fortuitously) Trent Lott was the scheduled guest!  It was all terriffic.  I had not seen the clip of Newt Gingrich on some Sunday show saying that the Repugs didn't rush to judgement about Foley because they didn't want to be accused of "gay bashing" (!?!) and then Jon Stewart followed that by saying "Hmmm... what would make people accuse them of that? maybe the fact that the GOP has spent years equating gay people with child molesters?"

Then on Colbert, his guest was Michael (Moneyball) Lewis, plugging his new book The Blind Side: Evolution of a Game, which is about a black ghetto kid, son of a crack-addict single mom, who was adopted by a rich white Evangelical Christian couple, and how his life completely turns around (learns football, IQ goes up 30 points, etc).  In a complete throwaway comment, Lewis mentions that they took his book to the Christian Bookseller's Convention (where you'd think it would be very popular) and -- get this -- it got a cool reception from many of the attendees because it has the word "evolution" in the title.  Oh those wacky Fundies.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Gazoo on October 13, 2006, 01:25:47 PM
Did anyone else catch Tom DeLay's somewhat-recent letter-writing campaign urging people to help make country singer Sara Evans the winner of "Dancing With the Stars"?  I guess hers is the kind of marriage America needs to protect from 'mos:

http://www.cnn.com/2006/SHOWBIZ/Music/10/13/people.evans.ap/index.html

Sorry to drag Ms. Evans into this -- I'm sure she's a nice gal and didn't ask for DeLay to be on her side -- but I'm feeling schadenfredic something fierce today.  My ever-raging moods, for ya.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on October 13, 2006, 01:42:43 PM
Quote from: "Gazoo"
Did anyone else catch Tom DeLay's somewhat-recent letter-writing campaign urging people to help make country singer Sara Evans the winner of "Dancing With the Stars"?  I guess hers is the kind of marriage America needs to protect from 'mos:

http://www.cnn.com/2006/SHOWBIZ/Music/10/13/people.evans.ap/index.html

Sorry to drag Ms. Evans into this -- I'm sure she's a nice gal and didn't ask for DeLay to be on her side -- but I'm feeling schadenfredic something fierce today.  My ever-raging moods, for ya.


"Evans alleges in divorce papers that her husband committed adultery, was verbally and emotionally abusive, drank excessively and frequently watched pornography in their home. [He]... ran for Congress as a Republican from Oregon's 5th District in 2002"

Sounds like the perfect GOP candidate to me.

BTW didya see the clip of Pat Buchanan repeatedly calling Mark Foley a "flamer"?
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Gazoo on October 13, 2006, 05:18:49 PM
Quote from: "RGMike"
Quote from: "Gazoo"
Did anyone else catch Tom DeLay's somewhat-recent letter-writing campaign urging people to help make country singer Sara Evans the winner of "Dancing With the Stars"?  I guess hers is the kind of marriage America needs to protect from 'mos:

http://www.cnn.com/2006/SHOWBIZ/Music/10/13/people.evans.ap/index.html

Sorry to drag Ms. Evans into this -- I'm sure she's a nice gal and didn't ask for DeLay to be on her side -- but I'm feeling schadenfredic something fierce today.  My ever-raging moods, for ya.


"Evans alleges in divorce papers that her husband committed adultery, was verbally and emotionally abusive, drank excessively and frequently watched pornography in their home. [He]... ran for Congress as a Republican from Oregon's 5th District in 2002"

Sounds like the perfect GOP candidate to me.

BTW didya see the clip of Pat Buchanan repeatedly calling Mark Foley a "flamer"?


No, I'm waiting to hear the dance remix.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: mshray on October 20, 2006, 08:36:14 AM
I've always liked Keith Olberman a lot.  But now I can honestly say he is my hero.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15321167/

The text is on this link, but the video clip is well worth watching because KO is truly passionate in his delivery.  It is about 7 minutes long.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Gazoo on October 20, 2006, 08:59:20 AM
Quote from: "mshray"
I've always liked Keith Olberman a lot.  But now I can honestly say he is my hero.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15321167/

The text is on this link, but the video clip is well worth watching because KO is truly passionate in his delivery.  It is about 7 minutes long.


*MEGA-applause*
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on October 20, 2006, 09:14:57 PM
TANC: the other day I expressed surprise that the band Orleans were from upstate NY and not SoCal.

Well, lo & behold, the group's leader, John Hall, is running for Congress in his home district as a Dem (and has a good shot at the seat). He was on Colbert and I'd never have recognized him -- bald, 60-ish, businessman-looking.

Hall then:

(http://www.jade.dti.ne.jp/~aerie/orleans.jpg)

Hall now:

(http://thepracticeroom.typepad.com/the_practice_room/images/john_hall.jpg)
Title: wow
Post by: ggould on October 20, 2006, 11:08:56 PM
Quote from: "Gazoo"
Quote from: "mshray"
I've always liked Keith Olberman a lot.  But now I can honestly say he is my hero.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15321167/

The text is on this link, but the video clip is well worth watching because KO is truly passionate in his delivery.  It is about 7 minutes long.
*MEGA-applause*

I'm floored after watching this.  Yes, perhaps he has watched Edward R. Murrow clips a bit much, but it turned positively gripping as he kept nailing W for his sins, with a very real sense that Olberman himself could be punished for merely speaking this truth to the twisted, corrupted power that passes for our current government.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on October 25, 2006, 03:17:33 PM
OK it was time for a little good news: NJ Supreme Court says same-sex couples deserve the same rights as heteros.  How that is enacted into law is up to the NJ State Legislature...

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2006/10/25/BAGPDLVPA74.DTL
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on October 26, 2006, 11:13:24 AM
Dunno if y'all have followed the Michael J Fox/Rush Limbaugh dust-up over the stem-cell political ad in Missouri, but there's a celebrity-studded ad for the other side that's gonna air today:

"The Cardinals' starting pitcher for Game 4, Jeff Suppan, is among several celebrities who appear in the minute-long ad.

Others include Arizona Cardinals quarterback Kurt Warner, Kansas City Royals first baseman Mark Sweeney and two actors, Patricia Heaton of TV's Everybody Loves Raymond and Jim Caviezel, who portrayed Jesus in The Passion of the Christ."
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: mshray on October 26, 2006, 11:19:06 AM
Quote from: "RGMike"
Dunno if y'all have followed the Michael J Fox/Rush Limbaugh dust-up over the stem-cell political ad in Missouri, but there's a celebrity-studded ad for the other side that's gonna air today:

"The Cardinals' starting pitcher for Game 4, Jeff Suppan, is among several celebrities who appear in the minute-long ad.

Others include Arizona Cardinals quarterback Kurt Warner, Kansas City Royals first baseman Mark Sweeney and two actors, Patricia Heaton of TV's Everybody Loves Raymond and Jim Caviezel, who portrayed Jesus in The Passion of the Christ."


are all the celebs you just mentioned on Rush Limbaugh's side?

ETA: and don't you mean "Patricia Heaton of TV's Everybody Loves Raymond those insufferable Albertson's radio ads"?
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on October 26, 2006, 11:53:37 AM
Quote from: "mshray"
Quote from: "RGMike"
Dunno if y'all have followed the Michael J Fox/Rush Limbaugh dust-up over the stem-cell political ad in Missouri, but there's a celebrity-studded ad for the other side that's gonna air today:

"The Cardinals' starting pitcher for Game 4, Jeff Suppan, is among several celebrities who appear in the minute-long ad.

Others include Arizona Cardinals quarterback Kurt Warner, Kansas City Royals first baseman Mark Sweeney and two actors, Patricia Heaton of TV's Everybody Loves Raymond and Jim Caviezel, who portrayed Jesus in The Passion of the Christ."


are all the celebs you just mentioned on Rush Limbaugh's side?



they're all anti-stem cell harvesting because, well, Jesus says it's wrong.  Apparently Caveizel thinks he IS Jesus.
Title: Dixie Chicks and Cumulus
Post by: darryl on October 27, 2006, 02:53:22 PM
This morning during the news, Peter Finch started to tell a story today about how NBC rejected their commercial for "Shut up and Sing", their documentary about the whole ordeal they've had to deal with since their "We're ashamed the President of the United States is from Texas" comment.

It was rejected "because the spot included material that 'disparages President Bush.'"

Story + Video at:  http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/43566/

I think everybody, but mainly Irish Greg started to get up in arms about it, and Dave pretty much told Peter to cut the rest of the news short so they could get to the 9 o'clock quiz or whatever.  But geezus, yeah, WTF!?

I mean, I would expect that kind of thing from Fox News, but NBC?

Ah well, more publicity for the documentary now.  The kind you *can't* buy.  :-}

But anyways, digging around for more on the story, I found this snippet re: the ban on playing their music:

Quote
Chris Matthews on Hardball:  Well, Emily, tell me.  Who was the corporation that went after you?
ROBISON:  Cox and Cumulus were the ones who definitely had corporate bans.  You know, we suspected some others.
MATTHEWS:  Cox and who else?
ROBISON:  Cumulus Radio.
MATTHEWS: Where are they located?
ROBISON:  I’m not sure where they’re located.  
MATTHEWS:  Well, you don’t know where they are located, but you’ve accused them of a massive conspiracy to hurt you.
ROBISON:  No. They’ve got stations all over the country that they claim are independently run stations, and they were part of the consolidation hearings.  And John McCain really raked them over the coals, because they were trying to say that all the individual stations were privately owned—or individually owned, and could make their own decisions, yet there was a mandate, from corporate headquarters, wherever that may be, that they had to stop playing our music.  

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/15444551/

I don't recall hearing any more about it on the show for the rest of the morning.  I wonder if there's a corporate policy against even *debating* the Dixie Chicks.

Which reminds me that KFOG did play "Not Ready to Make Nice" a total of 6 times between Mar-Jun, and then Irish Greg has the audacity make it sound like the song's been in heavy rotation and they've been getting all kinds of phone calls about it in a phone interview with the band.

Psh.

Cranky pants in the afternoon.  :-}

(Guess I shouldn't be so cranky since they did treat me to the Rodrigo y Gabriela in-studio performance.)
Title: Re: Dixie Chicks and Cumulus
Post by: mshray on October 27, 2006, 03:11:56 PM
Quote from: "darryl"
This morning during the news, Peter Finch started to tell a story today about how NBC rejected their commercial for "Shut up and Sing", their documentary about the whole ordeal they've had to deal with since their "We're ashamed the President of the United States is from Texas" comment.

It was rejected "because the spot included material that 'disparages President Bush.'"

Story + Video at:  http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/43566/

I think everybody, but mainly Irish Greg started to get up in arms about it, and Dave pretty much told Peter to cut the rest of the news short so they could get to the 9 o'clock quiz or whatever.  But geezus, yeah, WTF!?

I mean, I would expect that kind of thing from Fox News, but NBC?

Ah well, more publicity for the documentary now.  The kind you *can't* buy.  :-}

But anyways, digging around for more on the story, I found this snippet re: the ban on playing their music:

Quote
Chris Matthews on Hardball:  Well, Emily, tell me.  Who was the corporation that went after you?
ROBISON:  Cox and Cumulus were the ones who definitely had corporate bans.  You know, we suspected some others.
MATTHEWS:  Cox and who else?
ROBISON:  Cumulus Radio.
MATTHEWS: Where are they located?
ROBISON:  I’m not sure where they’re located.  
MATTHEWS:  Well, you don’t know where they are located, but you’ve accused them of a massive conspiracy to hurt you.
ROBISON:  No. They’ve got stations all over the country that they claim are independently run stations, and they were part of the consolidation hearings.  And John McCain really raked them over the coals, because they were trying to say that all the individual stations were privately owned—or individually owned, and could make their own decisions, yet there was a mandate, from corporate headquarters, wherever that may be, that they had to stop playing our music.  


I don't recall hearing any more about it on the show for the rest of the morning.  I wonder if there's a corporate policy against even *debating* the Dixie Chicks.

Which reminds me that KFOG did play "Not Ready to Make Nice" a total of 6 times between Mar-Jun, and then Irish Greg has the audacity make it sound like the song's been in heavy rotation and they've been getting all kinds of phone calls about it in a phone interview with the band.

Psh.

Cranky pants in the afternoon.  :-}

(Guess I shouldn't be so cranky since they did treat me to the Rodrigo y Gabriela in-studio performance.)


When I saw The Prestige a few days ago I was treated to the trailer for this film & a couple seconds of McCain's cross-examination was included.  It was exactly as Emily descirbed it.
Title: Re: Dixie Chicks and Cumulus
Post by: RGMike on October 27, 2006, 03:15:10 PM
Quote from: "mshray"
When I saw The Prestige a few days ago I was treated to the trailer for this film & a couple seconds of McCain's cross-examination was included.  It was exactly as Emily descirbed it.


wrong thread, I know, but didya like The Prestige better than The Illusionist?
Title: Re: Dixie Chicks and Cumulus
Post by: mshray on October 27, 2006, 03:40:32 PM
Quote from: "RGMike"
Quote from: "mshray"
When I saw The Prestige a few days ago I was treated to the trailer for this film & a couple seconds of McCain's cross-examination was included.  It was exactly as Emily descirbed it.


wrong thread, I know, but didya like The Prestige better than The Illusionist?


Quite a bit, though I certainly enjoyed both.  Much better casting (Michael Caine, David Bowie, Andy Serkis, Piper Perabo) for one thing.  Not to take anything away from Norton, Giamatti & Sewell, but after those guys what else was there?

Did you know that Ricky Jay (the David Mamet regular who played the magician both guys started out with) is in fact a world class magician & was the magic consultant on BOTH films?
Title: Re: Dixie Chicks and Cumulus
Post by: RGMike on October 27, 2006, 08:16:27 PM
Quote from: "mshray"
Did you know that Ricky Jay (the David Mamet regular who played the magician both guys started out with) is in fact a world class magician & was the magic consultant on BOTH films?


Yes, believe it or not -- an old friend from ABC days is a huge aficionado of magic, he keeps me posted on all things Ricky Jay. He's a BIG Jay fan. Mr Jay has done several one-man stage shows that have played in SF.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on October 31, 2006, 11:02:51 AM
White House slams Kerry; Kerry slams back (if only he'd done that more often 2 years ago):

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/news/archive/2006/10/31/national/w094731S95.DTL

Kerry, a decorated Vietnam veteran and President Bush's 2004 rival, fired back.

He said he had been criticizing Bush, not the "heroes serving in Iraq," and said the president and his administration are the ones who owe U.S. troops an apology because they "misled America into war and have given us a Katrina foreign policy that has betrayed our ideals, killed and maimed our soldiers, and widened the terrorist threat instead of defeating it."

"This is the classic GOP playbook," Kerry said in a harshly worded statement. "I'm sick and tired of these despicable Republican attacks that always seem to come from those who never can be found to serve in war, but love to attack those who did. I'm not going to be lectured by a stuffed suit White House mouthpiece standing behind a podium."
Title: Re: Dixie Chicks and Cumulus
Post by: mshray on October 31, 2006, 11:21:56 AM
Quote from: "RGMike"
Quote from: "mshray"
Did you know that Ricky Jay (the David Mamet regular who played the magician both guys started out with) is in fact a world class magician & was the magic consultant on BOTH films?


Yes, believe it or not -- an old friend from ABC days is a huge aficionado of magic, he keeps me posted on all things Ricky Jay. He's a BIG Jay fan. Mr Jay has done several one-man stage shows that have played in SF.


I'd love to go see him do that.  I recently clicked his IMDb profile and it says that he holds the world record for throwing playing cards the fastest.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: mshray on October 31, 2006, 11:24:03 AM
Quote from: "RGMike"
Kerry slams back (if only he'd done that more often 2 years ago)


If only...

(sigh)
Title: Re: Dixie Chicks and Cumulus
Post by: RGMike on October 31, 2006, 11:24:08 AM
Quote from: "mshray"
Quote from: "RGMike"
Quote from: "mshray"
Did you know that Ricky Jay (the David Mamet regular who played the magician both guys started out with) is in fact a world class magician & was the magic consultant on BOTH films?


Yes, believe it or not -- an old friend from ABC days is a huge aficionado of magic, he keeps me posted on all things Ricky Jay. He's a BIG Jay fan. Mr Jay has done several one-man stage shows that have played in SF.


I'd love to go see him do that.  I recently clicked his IMDb profile and it says that he holds the world record for throwing playing cards the fastest.


iirc, one of his shows was called "Ricky Jay and his 52 Assistants" or something like that.
Title: Re: Dixie Chicks and Cumulus
Post by: mshray on October 31, 2006, 11:24:55 AM
Quote from: "RGMike"


iirc, one of his shoes was called "Ricky Jay and his 52 Assistants" or something like that.


was that his left shoe or his right shoe?

 :wink:  :wink:  :wink:
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on November 02, 2006, 12:31:40 PM
a BIG-deal, homophobic Fundie minister, Ted Haggard, has apparently been outed:

http://www.9news.com/acm_news.aspx?OSGNAME=KUSA&IKOBJECTID=a73db9d1-0abe-421a-01ee-15ec09b8ff7d&TEMPLATEID=0c76dce6-ac1f-02d8-0047-c589c01ca7bf

Haggard is VERY powerful -- he supposedly has a daily "conference call" with Dubya -- and is currently seen in both the documentary Jesus Camp and the docu by atheist Richard Dawkins, in which Haggard and Dawkins debate evolution.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: mshray on November 02, 2006, 03:58:22 PM
Quote from: "RGMike"
a BIG-deal, homophobic Fundie minister, Ted Haggard, has apparently been outed:

http://www.9news.com/acm_news.aspx?OSGNAME=KUSA&IKOBJECTID=a73db9d1-0abe-421a-01ee-15ec09b8ff7d&TEMPLATEID=0c76dce6-ac1f-02d8-0047-c589c01ca7bf

Haggard is VERY powerful -- he supposedly has a daily "conference call" with Dubya -- and is currently seen in both the documentary Jesus Camp and the docu by atheist Richard Dawkins, in which Haggard and Dawkins debate evolution.


I SOOOOOO hope that Mr. Jones has DNA evidence.  

Colorado Springs is a scary fucking place.  The only thing better would be if someone caught James Dobson in flagrante dilecto with some kind of farm animal...or the decaying remains of Jon Benet Ramsey.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on November 03, 2006, 10:13:17 AM
Quote from: "mshray"
Quote from: "RGMike"
a BIG-deal, homophobic Fundie minister, Ted Haggard, has apparently been outed:

http://www.9news.com/acm_news.aspx?OSGNAME=KUSA&IKOBJECTID=a73db9d1-0abe-421a-01ee-15ec09b8ff7d&TEMPLATEID=0c76dce6-ac1f-02d8-0047-c589c01ca7bf

Haggard is VERY powerful -- he supposedly has a daily "conference call" with Dubya -- and is currently seen in both the documentary Jesus Camp and the docu by atheist Richard Dawkins, in which Haggard and Dawkins debate evolution.


I SOOOOOO hope that Mr. Jones has DNA evidence.  

Colorado Springs is a scary fucking place.  The only thing better would be if someone caught James Dobson in flagrante dilecto with some kind of farm animal...or the decaying remains of Jon Benet Ramsey.


Haggard is the oiliest salesman I've ever seen. He's positively slimy in the Dawkins docu (which I highly recommend -- Dawkins is my new hero and he was paid the ultimate tribute last nite by being parodied on South Park).

I thought Haggard's quote was rather odd: "I've been steady with my wife..."  Uh... "steady"?? Notice he didn't say "faithful". Who the hell says "steady"?
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: princessofcairo on November 03, 2006, 03:08:19 PM
Quote from: "RGMike"
Who the hell says "steady"?


perry como.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on November 03, 2006, 07:22:17 PM
Haggard steps aside at his church while an investigation proceeds:

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2006/11/02/national/a154054S61.DTL

Jones claimed Haggard paid him to have sex nearly every month over three years. He said he advertised himself as an escort on the Internet and was contacted by a man who called himself Art, who snorted methamphetamine before their sexual encounters to heighten his experience.  Jones said he later saw the man on television identified as Haggard and that the two last had sex in August.

He said he has voice mail messages from Haggard, as well as an envelope he said Haggard used to mail him cash. He declined to make the voice mails available to the AP, but KUSA-TV reported what it said were excerpts late Thursday that referred to methamphetamine.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Gazoo on November 03, 2006, 07:56:06 PM
Quote from: "RGMike"
Haggard steps aside at his church while an investigation proceeds:

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2006/11/02/national/a154054S61.DTL

Jones claimed Haggard paid him to have sex nearly every month over three years. He said he advertised himself as an escort on the Internet and was contacted by a man who called himself Art, who snorted methamphetamine before their sexual encounters to heighten his experience.  Jones said he later saw the man on television identified as Haggard and that the two last had sex in August.

He said he has voice mail messages from Haggard, as well as an envelope he said Haggard used to mail him cash. He declined to make the voice mails available to the AP, but KUSA-TV reported what it said were excerpts late Thursday that referred to methamphetamine.


CNN's now saying that there's been "some admission of guilt" from Haggard.  The juice is loose!
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on November 03, 2006, 08:10:01 PM
Quote from: "Gazoo"
Quote from: "RGMike"
Haggard steps aside at his church while an investigation proceeds:

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2006/11/02/national/a154054S61.DTL

Jones claimed Haggard paid him to have sex nearly every month over three years. He said he advertised himself as an escort on the Internet and was contacted by a man who called himself Art, who snorted methamphetamine before their sexual encounters to heighten his experience.  Jones said he later saw the man on television identified as Haggard and that the two last had sex in August.

He said he has voice mail messages from Haggard, as well as an envelope he said Haggard used to mail him cash. He declined to make the voice mails available to the AP, but KUSA-TV reported what it said were excerpts late Thursday that referred to methamphetamine.


CNN's now saying that there's been "some admission of guilt" from Haggard.  The juice is loose!


some great posts about this on Outsports -- including a few about the homoeroticism in the art that adorns his church...
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Gazoo on November 04, 2006, 01:19:11 AM
Quote from: "Gazoo"
Quote from: "RGMike"
Haggard steps aside at his church while an investigation proceeds:

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2006/11/02/national/a154054S61.DTL

Jones claimed Haggard paid him to have sex nearly every month over three years. He said he advertised himself as an escort on the Internet and was contacted by a man who called himself Art, who snorted methamphetamine before their sexual encounters to heighten his experience.  Jones said he later saw the man on television identified as Haggard and that the two last had sex in August.

He said he has voice mail messages from Haggard, as well as an envelope he said Haggard used to mail him cash. He declined to make the voice mails available to the AP, but KUSA-TV reported what it said were excerpts late Thursday that referred to methamphetamine.


CNN's now saying that there's been "some admission of guilt" from Haggard.  The juice is loose!


He now admits to buying meth from the prostie. And may have asked for a "massage."  I hope it was the happiest motherfucking ending of his life since he's now going to lose his empire over it.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on November 04, 2006, 02:00:28 AM
Quote from: "Gazoo"
Quote from: "Gazoo"
Quote from: "RGMike"
Haggard steps aside at his church while an investigation proceeds:

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2006/11/02/national/a154054S61.DTL

Jones claimed Haggard paid him to have sex nearly every month over three years. He said he advertised himself as an escort on the Internet and was contacted by a man who called himself Art, who snorted methamphetamine before their sexual encounters to heighten his experience.  Jones said he later saw the man on television identified as Haggard and that the two last had sex in August.

He said he has voice mail messages from Haggard, as well as an envelope he said Haggard used to mail him cash. He declined to make the voice mails available to the AP, but KUSA-TV reported what it said were excerpts late Thursday that referred to methamphetamine.


CNN's now saying that there's been "some admission of guilt" from Haggard.  The juice is loose!


He now admits to buying meth from the prostie. And may have asked for a "massage."  I hope it was the happiest motherfucking ending of his life since he's now going to lose his empire over it.


This is SO classic.  He admits to the drugs but not the gay sex (just like Ty Hendon, the country singer, a dozen or so years ago).  He can be "forgiven" for the drugs and the rest of it is just a "political smear" as far as his deep-in-denial followers are concerned.

I used to be very much against "outing" but now I want to see every one of these hypocritical motherf---kers FRY.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on November 04, 2006, 03:25:31 AM
Mark Morford provides clips of Rev Ted H:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgate/detail?blogid=3&entry_id=10553
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: princessofcairo on November 06, 2006, 12:46:20 AM
i watched part one of the dawkins docu last night. i wouldn't say he and haggard debated evolution, or if they did, it wasn't onscreen. dawkins seems to have an antagonistic (michael moore) interviewing approach, which easily solicits from his subjects the fervour he wishes to exploit. not the sort of objective research one expects from a scientist.

in any event, haggard and his "children," or "flock," or sheep are exactly the kind of robots we should fear, and i appreciated the parallel drawn between them and radical islamists. they reminded me of my own jubilee! experience as a youth, and, of course, i had nightmares.

our god is an awesome god.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: mshray on November 07, 2006, 11:19:32 PM
Democratic control of the House is assured, and Nancy Pelosi has just become the most powerful woman in US history.

As of 1:30 am EST, all but the last three Senate races have been called, with the Repugnicans sitting at 49 and the Dems at 48.  The last three races are VA, MO & MT, and the Dems are leading in each.  Tester has a 4% lead in MT, which seems all but over.  

In MO McCaskill has a little more than 1% lead with 84% of precincts reporting.  I know from experience in MO that the precincts that stay open latest usually are in Metro St. Louis & KC, which are heavily Democratic.  So that bodes well.  I want to see Talent go down, as he unseated Mel Carnahan's widow in a special election in '02 (after she'd gotten the seat by virtue of her dead husband outpolling John Ashcroft).  In VA there seems likely to be a recount as, with 100% of precincts reporting, Webb leads Allen by 2,226 votes (out of 2,284,786 cast, or 0.0974%).  

So a 50-50 split seems the worst outcome at this moment, and if Webb's slim majority holds up the Dems will have control of the Senate as well.

YIPPIE KAI YAY, MOTHERF***ERS!!!!!
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: SFGuy on November 07, 2006, 11:22:41 PM
I have to ask this: As a moderate Republican, am I they closest to the right then anybody else on this board. Am I the only registered Repubican. I assume all of you are liberal Democrats (most of my friends are liberal Democrats and we NEVER talk politics for the sake of our friendship).
Title: big tent?
Post by: ggould on November 07, 2006, 11:32:26 PM
Quote from: "SFGuy"
I have to ask this: As a moderate Republican, am I they closest to the right then anybody else on this board. Am I the only registered Repubican. I assume all of you are liberal Democrats (most of my friends are liberal Democrats and we NEVER talk politics for the sake of our friendship).

Well, you're probably way to the right of most, but hard to tell.  Some of us lose our cool from time-to-time, but would probably agree that 'it's the music, dummy!' would trump most things.  It's probably good to have a Republican around, as most of us can't quite fathom how the GOP brain works, and you might shed some light on that.
Title: Re: big tent?
Post by: SFGuy on November 07, 2006, 11:55:32 PM
Quote from: "ggould"
Quote from: "SFGuy"
I have to ask this: As a moderate Republican, am I they closest to the right then anybody else on this board. Am I the only registered Repubican. I assume all of you are liberal Democrats (most of my friends are liberal Democrats and we NEVER talk politics for the sake of our friendship).

Well, you're probably way to the right of most, but hard to tell.  Some of us lose our cool from time-to-time, but would probably agree that 'it's the music, dummy!' would trump most things.  It's probably good to have a Republican around, as most of us can't quite fathom how the GOP brain works, and you might shed some light on that.


I kind of feel the same way about liberals (not necessarily Democrats as I have a great deal of respect for Feinstein).

I'm an old school Republican who thinks of state rights over the feds (so no constitutional ban on gay marriages for me). I believe in lower taxes for all, a strong military (supported the invasion of Afghanistan, was in favor of the Iraq war in the beginning but quite frankly Bush f up'd by listen to two idiots). But I HATE Religious conservatives (the party of racist scum like Jerry Fawell and Pat Robertson). The Republican Party I joined is not the party is today. I think John McCain could change that in '08.

If I were to register today, I would sign up as an Independent. As I think the majority of both parties are scum. I have respect for those who try to help our country rather then themselves. I think Dianne Feinstein, McCain are fine. It's the Ted Kennedy and (former) Senator Santorum that I hate.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: mshray on November 08, 2006, 12:07:54 AM
I think that Teddy is past his prime & sometimes seems like a caricature, but I don't hate him. Other than that, I can agree with every point you just made.  If the Dems start acting like they did in the late 70's I could even go back to being an independent, like I was in '80, when I volunteered for the John Anderson campaign.
Title: Re: big tent?
Post by: urth on November 08, 2006, 12:11:07 AM
Quote from: "SFGuy"
Quote from: "ggould"
Quote from: "SFGuy"
I have to ask this: As a moderate Republican, am I they closest to the right then anybody else on this board. Am I the only registered Repubican. I assume all of you are liberal Democrats (most of my friends are liberal Democrats and we NEVER talk politics for the sake of our friendship).

Well, you're probably way to the right of most, but hard to tell.  Some of us lose our cool from time-to-time, but would probably agree that 'it's the music, dummy!' would trump most things.  It's probably good to have a Republican around, as most of us can't quite fathom how the GOP brain works, and you might shed some light on that.


I kind of feel the same way about liberals (not necessarily Democrats as I have a great deal of respect for Feinstein).

I'm an old school Republican who thinks of state rights over the feds (so no constitutional ban on gay marriages for me). I believe in lower taxes for all, a strong military (supported the invasion of Afghanistan, was in favor of the Iraq war in the beginning but quite frankly Bush f up'd by listen to two idiots). But I HATE Religious conservatives (the party of racist scum like Jerry Fawell and Pat Robertson). The Republican Party I joined is not the party is today. I think John McCain could change that in '08.

If I were to register today, I would sign up as an Independent. As I think the majority of both parties are scum. I have respect for those who try to help our country rather then themselves. I think Dianne Feinstein, McCain are fine. It's the Ted Kennedy and (former) Senator Santorum that I hate.


Y'know--it sounds like we do agree on a few points (religious conservatives, Feinstein & McCain) but disagree on others (military, Afghanistan & Iraq, and while Kennedy is a long way from either of his brothers, I don't have a problem with him).
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: SFGuy on November 08, 2006, 12:14:47 AM
If anyone is looking for a right wing point of view from me, you ain't gonna find it. Hell, in some areas of the country, I would probably be considered a liberal Repubican.

BTW, I had an ultra distain for Jesse Helms the same level I have for Ted Kennedy (JFK would probably be considered more conservative on some issues then a lot of recent GOP if he were around today).

I found it curious that in Wisconsin, a blue state, voted to ban gay marriages. I thought a liberal state like Wisconsin would of voted it down. Then again, it did pass in liberal Oregon in 2004.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: mshray on November 08, 2006, 09:56:19 AM
RUMSFELD RESIGNS!!

Hallelujah.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on November 08, 2006, 09:56:24 AM
RUMSFELD RESIGNS!

updates to come...
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: urth on November 08, 2006, 09:59:16 AM
Quote from: "RGMike"
RUMSFELD RESIGNS!

updates to come...


I'm glad to see him out but the phrase "cut and run" comes to mind. Now that things aren't going to be such a cakewalk for the Bush admin in the last two years of their term, he bails.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on November 13, 2006, 06:59:43 PM
OMFG it never ends...

The Missouri GOP has issued a report that says the reason we have illegal immigration in the US is because (wait for it) abortion has reduced the number of potential American workers:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/news/archive/2006/11/13/national/a151852S62.DTL
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Alicat on November 13, 2006, 08:56:17 PM
Quote from: "RGMike"
OMFG it never ends...

The Missouri GOP has issued a report that says the reason we have illegal immigration in the US is because (wait for it) abortion has reduced the number of potential American workers:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/news/archive/2006/11/13/national/a151852S62.DTL

They're smoking crack.
How can a sane person even begin to hypothesize that? :roll:
How can a paper (other than The Onion) print it?
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: princessofcairo on November 14, 2006, 08:51:37 AM
Quote from: "RGMike"
OMFG it never ends...

The Missouri GOP has issued a report that says the reason we have illegal immigration in the US is because (wait for it) abortion has reduced the number of potential American workers:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/news/archive/2006/11/13/national/a151852S62.DTL


classic! why don't we reinstitute slavery? that would solve employment and tax issues with one fell swoop.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: princessofcairo on November 14, 2006, 11:11:15 AM
joni mitchell's "tax free." (http://www.ameliaray.net/taxfree.mp3)

Front rooms
Back rooms
Slide into tables
Crowd into bathrooms
Joke around
Cheap talk
Deep talk
Talk, talk, talk around the clock
Crawl home
Lie down
Teeth chatter
Heart pounds
I don't feel so good
I don't feel so good
Push a button to escape
Preacher on the tube crying "Lord!"
There's evil in this land

Evangelist:
"Rock and roll music!"
"Cast down these dope-fiends
And there noisy bands!"
"Damn their souls!"

Preacher preaching love like vengeance
Preaching love like hate
Calling for large donations
Promising estates
Rolling lawns and angel bands
Behind the pearly gates
You know, he will have his in this life
But yours will have to wait
He's immaculately tax free

"Mulitiple hundreds of thousands of ..."
Tax free
"Hundreds and millions of dollars"
Tax free
"A hundred billion dollars!
And who is paying the price?
Who, who
"Your children are"

Pissed off
Jacked up
Scream into the mike
Spit into the loving cup
Strut like a rooster
March like a man
God's hired hands and the devil bands
Packing the same grandstands
Different clothes
"Pot in their pockets!"
Different hair
"Sexually active"
Raise a screaming guitar or a bible in the air
Theatre of anguish
Theatre of glory
God's hired hands and the devil bands
Oh come let us adore---ME!
Lord, there's danger in this land
You get witch-hunts and wars
When church and state hold hands

Fuck it!
Tonight I'm going dancing
With the drag queens and the punks
Big beat deliver me
From this sanctimonious skunk
We're no flaming angels
And he's not heaven sent
How can he speak for the Prince of Peace
When he's hawk-right militant
And he's immaculately tax free

"Our nation has lost its guts!"
Save me
"Our nation has lost its strength"
Tax free
"Our nation has whimpered and cried"
Save me
"And petted the Castros"
Tax free
"The Khomeinis' and the Kaddafis'"
Save me
"For so long"
Tax free
"That we don't know how to act like a man"
Save me
"I think that we should turn the United States Marines
loose on that little island south of Florida and
stop that problem!"
"I am preachin' love, I am!"
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: SFGuy on November 15, 2006, 01:32:43 AM
Quote from: "princessofcairo"
Quote from: "RGMike"
OMFG it never ends...

The Missouri GOP has issued a report that says the reason we have illegal immigration in the US is because (wait for it) abortion has reduced the number of potential American workers:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/news/archive/2006/11/13/national/a151852S62.DTL


classic! why don't we reinstitute slavery? that would solve employment and tax issues with one fell swoop.


I agree. We could use our "wonderful" politicans (both parties) to do the labor. They could learn what is to really work and not rip off our country.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on November 15, 2006, 07:59:04 AM
as ever, Assmussen sums it all up:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/11/15/DDASMUSSENBR.DTL
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Gazoo on November 15, 2006, 08:26:53 AM
GOP's second-in-command: TRENT FUCKING LOTT??!!?? (http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/11/15/congress.leaders.ap/index.html)

Perhaps signaling a resurgence of the States' Rights Party.  I wonder if the rebuilding of his house is coming along faster than the rest of New Orleans.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Gazoo on November 15, 2006, 08:30:26 AM
Quote from: "Alicat"
Quote from: "RGMike"
OMFG it never ends...

The Missouri GOP has issued a report that says the reason we have illegal immigration in the US is because (wait for it) abortion has reduced the number of potential American workers:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/news/archive/2006/11/13/national/a151852S62.DTL

They're smoking crack.
How can a sane person even begin to hypothesize that? :roll:
How can a paper (other than The Onion) print it?


This whole immigration discussion pisses me off.  If we were sincere about improving the situation -- which we're not -- the way to do it would be to support efforts to improve the freedoms and economy of Mexico, so that people wouldn't be so desperate to leave there. But most of our nation cannot think that way because THEY'RE MEXICANS which means THEY'RE NOT AMERICANS which means THEY'RE NOT LIKE US which means THEY MUST HAVE DONE SOMETHING TO DESERVE LIVING THERE unlike us who are GOD'S CHOSEN NATION.

Fuck it all.  I need a drink.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on November 17, 2006, 11:20:17 AM
Michael Moore's post-election "open letter to conservatives". This is great, great stuff:

http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/message/index.php?id=201
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: SFGuy on November 17, 2006, 05:00:46 PM
Quote from: "RGMike"
Michael Moore's post-election "open letter to conservatives". This is great, great stuff:

http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/message/index.php?id=201


He's the left wing version of Rush Limbaugh: he's an asshole of the worst kind. I would never, ever listen to or read his crap (like Limbaugh).
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on November 17, 2006, 05:14:35 PM
Quote from: "SFGuy"
Quote from: "RGMike"
Michael Moore's post-election "open letter to conservatives". This is great, great stuff:

http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/message/index.php?id=201


He's the left wing version of Rush Limbaugh: he's an asshole of the worst kind. I would never, ever listen to or read his crap (like Limbaugh).


Sorry, but in this case, he's dead on target.
Title: Michael Moore
Post by: ggould on November 17, 2006, 11:03:59 PM
Quote from: "RGMike"
Quote from: "SFGuy"
Quote from: "RGMike"
Michael Moore's post-election "open letter to conservatives". This is great, great stuff:
http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/message/index.php?id=201
He's the left wing version of Rush Limbaugh: he's an asshole of the worst kind. I would never, ever listen to or read his crap (like Limbaugh).
Sorry, but in this case, he's dead on target.
I don't think he's even close to Rush, and he's certainly a lot funnier!
Title: Re: Michael Moore
Post by: SFGuy on November 18, 2006, 12:07:22 AM
Quote from: "ggould"
Quote from: "RGMike"
Quote from: "SFGuy"
Quote from: "RGMike"
Michael Moore's post-election "open letter to conservatives". This is great, great stuff:
http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/message/index.php?id=201
He's the left wing version of Rush Limbaugh: he's an asshole of the worst kind. I would never, ever listen to or read his crap (like Limbaugh).
Sorry, but in this case, he's dead on target.
I don't think he's even close to Rush, and he's certainly a lot funnier!


For the record, I hate Moore not because he's a liberal but because he's an asshole (and he's NOT funny one bit). I do like Rob Reiner and he's pretty much a far left winger too but he's no asshole.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Gazoo on December 04, 2006, 08:47:10 AM
Is it too Schadenfreudal to say "FUCK OFF BOLTON"?
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on December 04, 2006, 09:02:21 AM
Quote from: "Gazoo"
Is it too Schadenfreudal to say "FUCK OFF BOLTON"?


You really hate Michael Bolton THAT much?  Oh wait... wrong Bolton.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: princessofcairo on December 04, 2006, 09:22:00 AM
Quote from: "RGMike"
Quote from: "Gazoo"
Is it too Schadenfreudal to say "FUCK OFF BOLTON"?


You really hate Michael Bolton THAT much?  Oh wait... wrong Bolton.


that's what i was thinking.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on December 07, 2006, 11:26:01 AM
only in the NY Post (link good on 12/7/06 only):

http://www.nypost.com/
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: mshray on December 07, 2006, 04:52:36 PM
Quote from: "RGMike"
Quote from: "Gazoo"
Is it too Schadenfreudal to say "FUCK OFF BOLTON"?


You really hate Michael Bolton THAT much?


I DO!
Title: monkeys
Post by: ggould on December 07, 2006, 11:03:15 PM
Quote from: "RGMike"
only in the NY Post (link good on 12/7/06 only):

http://www.nypost.com/

(http://www.nypost.com/seven/12072006/photos/cover.jpg)
Title: Re: monkeys
Post by: RGMike on December 08, 2006, 09:08:06 AM
Quote from: "ggould"
Quote from: "RGMike"
only in the NY Post (link good on 12/7/06 only):

http://www.nypost.com/



thanks for posting the actual pic -- truly astounding.  Olbermann did a piece on that last nite; about how the ultra-rightys were freaking out over the Iraq Study Group Report (Limbaugh went nuts over it too).  He had someone who said it was the funniest POST cover since "HEADLESS BODY IN TOPLESS BAR".

(http://home.austin.rr.com/electronicfolio/HeadlessBodyPostcard.gif)

BTW has anybody else noticed that the people who give away SF Examiners downtown are also selling NY POSTs? WTF??
Title: Re: monkeys
Post by: urth on December 08, 2006, 11:29:13 AM
Quote from: "RGMike"
Quote from: "ggould"
Quote from: "RGMike"
only in the NY Post (link good on 12/7/06 only):

http://www.nypost.com/



thanks for posting the actual pic -- truly astounding.  Olbermann did a piece on that last nite; about how the ultra-rightys were freaking out over the Iraq Study Group Report (Limbaugh went nuts over it too).  He had someone who said it was the funniest POST cover since "HEADLESS BODY IN TOPLESS BAR".



Jon Stewart held up a copy during his monologue last night too.
Title: Re: monkeys
Post by: RGMike on December 08, 2006, 11:37:56 AM
Quote from: "urth"
Jon Stewart held up a copy during his monologue last night too.


It's worth noting that the other big story yesterday was the ultra-right's reaction to the Mary Cheney pregnancy; Focus on the Family and some other American Family Blah-Blah group really ripped into her.

In each case, two different pundits on Olbermann's show pretty much said the same thing:  these people are seeing their world crumble around them and are lashing out in any way they can. "Their heads are imploding" is a phrase I've heard more than once this week. A non-partisan group says Iraq was a botch?  The veep's lesbian daughter's preggers? Ted Haggard sucks dick?  OMFG!!!  We're doomed!!!
Title: Re: monkeys
Post by: urth on December 08, 2006, 12:08:14 PM
Quote from: "RGMike"
Quote from: "urth"
Jon Stewart held up a copy during his monologue last night too.


It's worth noting that the other big story yesterday was the ultra-right's reaction to the Mary Cheney pregnancy; Focus on the Family and some other American Family Blah-Blah group really ripped into her.

In each case, two different pundits on Olbermann's show pretty much said the same thing:  these people are seeing their world crumble around them and are lashing out in any way they can. "Their heads are imploding" is a phrase I've heard more than once this week. A non-partisan group says Iraq was a botch?  The veep's lesbian daughter's preggers? Ted Haggard sucks dick?  OMFG!!!  We're doomed!!!


And it couldn't happen to a more deserving bunch of folks...
Title: Re: monkeys
Post by: Gazoo on December 08, 2006, 08:56:40 PM
Quote from: "RGMike"
Quote from: "urth"
Jon Stewart held up a copy during his monologue last night too.


It's worth noting that the other big story yesterday was the ultra-right's reaction to the Mary Cheney pregnancy; Focus on the Family and some other American Family Blah-Blah group really ripped into her.


Be sure to read the coming week's Savage Love column if this issue is of interest.  Dan fucking NAILS this.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: mshray on December 12, 2006, 09:35:28 PM
Ted Haggard has company!

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20061213/ts_nm/evangelical_scandal_gay_dc_2
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: urth on December 12, 2006, 11:40:51 PM
Quote from: "mshray"
Ted Haggard has company!

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20061213/ts_nm/evangelical_scandal_gay_dc_2


My, doesn't that conjure up some mental images. Gives a whole new meaning to "fellowship."

Btw, nice...uhhh...hats there, 'Shray. But they's coverin' up the cleavage!
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on December 13, 2006, 07:42:07 AM
Quote from: "mshray"
Ted Haggard has company!

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20061213/ts_nm/evangelical_scandal_gay_dc_2


"Many evangelical Christians view homosexuality as a sin"

"MANY"??

Speaking of sex, Dan Savage was supposed to have been on The Colbert Report last nite.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on December 13, 2006, 08:46:11 AM
The best part of this story about a GOP-appointed judge in SB county and her various indiscretions is the fact that there's a lesbian whose last name is Dykeman...

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/12/13/BAGQVMUM8R1.DTL
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: princessofcairo on December 13, 2006, 08:52:23 AM
Quote from: "RGMike"
The best part of this story about a GOP-appointed judge in SB county and her various indiscretions is the fact that there's a lesbian whose last name is Dykeman...

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/12/13/BAGQVMUM8R1.DTL


ha!
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: princessofcairo on December 13, 2006, 10:27:36 AM
what did you say your name was, again? (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6173373.stm)
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Gazoo on December 13, 2006, 11:40:12 AM
Quote from: "RGMike"
Quote from: "mshray"
Ted Haggard has company!

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20061213/ts_nm/evangelical_scandal_gay_dc_2


"Many evangelical Christians view homosexuality as a sin"

"MANY"??


"Many" =  "all but Tammy Faye Bakker and her son"
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: princessofcairo on December 14, 2006, 01:20:12 PM
verdonk-adunk! (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6213220.stm)
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on December 14, 2006, 03:52:31 PM
A Nevada stae senator says: teachers should carry guns...

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/news/archive/2006/12/14/national/a145033S24.DTL

You just know this is gonna end up on Colbert.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: princessofcairo on December 14, 2006, 04:00:01 PM
Quote from: "RGMike"
A Nevada stae senator says: teachers should carry guns...

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/news/archive/2006/12/14/national/a145033S24.DTL

You just know this is gonna end up on Colbert.


i just love how colbert has surpassed stewart in hipness factor.
yes, i am a "strangers with candy" fan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

eta: let's remake "lean on me" with guns!!
Title: John's still my man
Post by: ggould on December 14, 2006, 08:59:26 PM
Quote from: "princessofcairo"
Quote from: "RGMike"
A Nevada stae senator says: teachers should carry guns...

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/news/archive/2006/12/14/national/a145033S24.DTL

You just know this is gonna end up on Colbert.
i just love how colbert has surpassed stewart in hipness factor.
yes, i am a "strangers with candy" fan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

eta: let's remake "lean on me" with guns!!
Colbert is pretty cool, but still nowhere near Stewart.  Some nights he's brilliant, but some nights he just grates on me.
Title: Re: John's still my man
Post by: RGMike on December 14, 2006, 09:12:33 PM
Quote from: "ggould"
Quote from: "princessofcairo"
Quote from: "RGMike"
A Nevada stae senator says: teachers should carry guns...

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/news/archive/2006/12/14/national/a145033S24.DTL

You just know this is gonna end up on Colbert.
i just love how colbert has surpassed stewart in hipness factor.
yes, i am a "strangers with candy" fan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

eta: let's remake "lean on me" with guns!!
Colbert is pretty cool, but still nowhere near Stewart.  Some nights he's brilliant, but some nights he just grates on me.


The Daily Show has taken some lumps lately (deservedly, I think) for being so white and male -- they lost Carell, Colbert, Corddry and Helms in short order and replaced them with... more white guys (one of whom I think is married to Samantha Bee), except for Asav Mandhi (sp?).  I mean, Rob Riggle? Are there no funny black/hispanic comedy writers?  The show's still funny, sometimes brilliantly so, but the issue is there.

Colbert, on the other hand, by virtue of the character he's playing, doesn't have to have anybody else on the show and thus avoids the issue.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Gazoo on December 14, 2006, 11:37:33 PM
Quote from: "princessofcairo"
Quote from: "RGMike"
A Nevada stae senator says: teachers should carry guns...

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/news/archive/2006/12/14/national/a145033S24.DTL

You just know this is gonna end up on Colbert.


i just love how colbert has surpassed stewart in hipness factor.
yes, i am a "strangers with candy" fan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

eta: let's remake "lean on me" with guns!!


I'M JOE CLARK.  BUT CALL ME BATMAN!!!  *BLAM BLAM BLAM***BLAM BLAM BLAM*

ETA: Please read that with me in character; i.e., Little Richard in Santa hat + schmatta + beehive combo
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on December 21, 2006, 10:09:10 PM
ah, yes... the Traditional Values Coalition is at it again...

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/12/21/LAZARUS.TMP
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on January 04, 2007, 12:58:29 PM
in case you missed this earlier in the week, God's been chatting with Pat Robertson again...

http://us.cnn.com/2007/US/01/02/robertson.predictions.ap/index.html
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: mshray on January 04, 2007, 04:16:46 PM
Quote from: "RGMike"
in case you missed this earlier in the week, God's been chatting with Pat Robertson again...

http://us.cnn.com/2007/US/01/02/robertson.predictions.ap/index.html


Robertson's many recent predictions are listed in this article, and of his imperfect record he says, "I have a relatively good track record," he said. "Sometimes I miss."

But if God is talking to him how could He have anything less than a perfect record?  Surely then it is Robertson's hearing that is imperfect, and yet his faith definitely includes the belief that the Bible is the literal word of GOD, so if Pat gets some of God's words wrong who's to say that the ancient writers didn't as well?

It's either that or having to admit that what he really heard was his id seeking media attention.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Gazoo on January 04, 2007, 07:17:17 PM
Quote from: "mshray"
But if God is talking to him how could He have anything less than a perfect record?


God is but one of many odd creatures whose voices Pat Robertson hears regularly, the poor thing.  Cf: " 'He was very religious. He was not in his right mind,' said Nene Principe, a family friend."
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: SFGuy on January 05, 2007, 02:40:04 AM
I don't like Al Franken that much because he tends to be an asshole to those that disagrees with him (even just a little) but he sure did a GREAT Pat Robertson impression during the late 80's on SNL.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on January 08, 2007, 08:58:49 AM
interesting story about a guy who started a one-man campaign to educate KSFO's advertisers about just what exactly they're supporting by buying time on the station:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/1/6/13107/86052
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: princessofcairo on January 08, 2007, 04:00:11 PM
Quote from: "RGMike"
interesting story about a guy who started a one-man campaign to educate KSFO's advertisers about just what exactly they're supporting by buying time on the station:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/1/6/13107/86052


*that's* awesome!!!
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on January 08, 2007, 04:18:11 PM
Quote from: "princessofcairo"
Quote from: "RGMike"
interesting story about a guy who started a one-man campaign to educate KSFO's advertisers about just what exactly they're supporting by buying time on the station:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/1/6/13107/86052


*that's* awesome!!!


What interested me was the point (which hadn't occurred to me) that ABC/Disney sells their stations as a package to advertisers based on the ABC/Disney "image" -- so Starbucks, Toyota or whoever is placing ads based on that, without really understanding that Melanie Morgan is advocating blowing up the NY Times or that Brian Sussman is asking callers to say "Allah is a whore" (to think he used to be a warm-n-fuzzy weather guy on Channel 5!).  

Of course, boycotts are not new, and the right is free to do something similar (and they have and they will). But the fact that this particular  endeavor has the right (and KSFO management) royally pissed off is good enough for me.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: princessofcairo on January 09, 2007, 07:50:23 AM
Quote from: "RGMike"
...or that Brian Sussman is asking callers to say "Allah is a whore" (to think he used to be a warm-n-fuzzy weather guy on Channel 5!).  


i *knew* his name was familiar for some reason. gosh.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on January 09, 2007, 07:59:32 AM
Quote from: "princessofcairo"
Quote from: "RGMike"
...or that Brian Sussman is asking callers to say "Allah is a whore" (to think he used to be a warm-n-fuzzy weather guy on Channel 5!).  


i *knew* his name was familiar for some reason. gosh.


(http://www.helponechild.org/images/AboutUs/BrianSussman.jpg)
Title: Michael Moore and Stephen Colbert
Post by: ggould on January 11, 2007, 12:47:01 PM
http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/message/index.php?id=204

Moore and Colbert both agree that millions more troops are needed!

Moore only wants about 60 million, while I think Colber is asking for around 300 million.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: urth on January 11, 2007, 02:27:52 PM
Quote from: "RGMike"
Quote from: "princessofcairo"
Quote from: "RGMike"
interesting story about a guy who started a one-man campaign to educate KSFO's advertisers about just what exactly they're supporting by buying time on the station:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/1/6/13107/86052


*that's* awesome!!!


What interested me was the point (which hadn't occurred to me) that ABC/Disney sells their stations as a package to advertisers based on the ABC/Disney "image" -- so Starbucks, Toyota or whoever is placing ads based on that, without really understanding that Melanie Morgan is advocating blowing up the NY Times or that Brian Sussman is asking callers to say "Allah is a whore" (to think he used to be a warm-n-fuzzy weather guy on Channel 5!).  

Of course, boycotts are not new, and the right is free to do something similar (and they have and they will). But the fact that this particular  endeavor has the right (and KSFO management) royally pissed off is good enough for me.


The Chron has now picked up this story:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/01/11/MNGHLNGH2N1.DTL
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on January 17, 2007, 07:50:05 AM
Remember when Colbert stirred up shit at the White House Correspondents' Dinner last year?  So this year they've invited...  RICH LITTLE???

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2007/01/17/MNGBANJU9D1.DTL
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on January 17, 2007, 08:36:31 AM
The folks who work at the Grand Canyon (National Parks Service types) are NOT ALLOWED to say how old the Canyon is -- because that would piss off Creationists who say the earth is only 6,000 years old:

http://www.peer.org/news/news_id.php?row_id=801
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on January 19, 2007, 09:23:46 AM
I cannot WAIT to catch the replay of the O'Reilly-on-Colbert show tonite. Sadly, I didn't realize Colbert was also making an appearance on O'Reilly.

"The greatest TV crossover since the Flintstones met the Jetsons" -- LOL!

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/01/18/entertainment/e193931S13.DTL
Title: FUCK THE SENATE
Post by: Gazoo on January 24, 2007, 10:52:02 AM
Thanks, Republican senatorial assholes, for holding back the minimum wage increase; I hope your children someday have to survive on $5.15 an hour.

Think I'll say it again: FUCK THE SENATE
Title: Constitutional law, 21st century version
Post by: urth on January 24, 2007, 12:31:29 PM
Just when you think they can't get any more audacious, the GOP gets even more arrogant:

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/01/24/MNGDONO11O1.DTL

Habeas corpus? What's that?

Of course, with the Supreme Court that's currently sitting, he might be more right than we know.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: princessofcairo on January 24, 2007, 12:42:09 PM
randy newman's got a few words to say! (http://www.randynewman.com/tocdiscography/a-few-words)

A Few Words in Defense of Our Country
I’d like to say a few words
In defense of our country
Whose people aren’t bad nor are they mean
Now the leaders we have
While they’re the worst that we’ve had
Are hardly the worst this poor world has seen

Let’s turn history’s pages, shall we?

Take the Caesars for example
Why within the first few of them
They were sleeping with their sister
Stashing little boys in swimming pools
And burning down the City
And one of ‘em, one of 'em
Appointed his own horse Consul of the Empire
That’s like vice president or something

That’s not a very good example, is it?

But wait, here’s one, the Spanish Inquisition
They put people in a terrible position
I don’t even like to think about it

Well, sometimes I like to think about it

Just a few words in defense of our country
Whose time at the top
Could be coming to an end
Now we don’t want their love
And respect at this point is pretty much out of the question
But in times like these
We sure could use a friend

Hitler. Stalin.
Men who need no introduction

King Leopold of Belgium. That’s right.
Everyone thinks he’s so great
Well he owned The Congo
He tore it up too
He took the diamonds, he took the gold
He took the silver
Know what he left them with?

Malaria

A President once said,
"The only thing we have to fear is fear itself"
Now it seems like we’re supposed to be afraid
It’s patriotic in fact and color coded
And what are we supposed to be afraid of?
Why, of being afraid
That’s what terror means, doesn’t it?
That’s what it used to mean

[To the first eight bars of  "Columbia The Gem Of The Ocean"]

You know it pisses me off a little
That this Supreme Court is gonna outlive me
A couple of young Italian fellas and a brother on the Court now too
But I defy you, anywhere in the world
To find me two Italians as tightass as the two Italians we got

And as for the brother
Well, Pluto’s not a planet anymore either

The end of an empire is messy at best
And this empire is ending
Like all the rest
Like the Spanish Armada adrift on the sea
We’re adrift in the land of the brave
And the home of the free

Goodbye. Goodbye. Goodbye.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: princessofcairo on January 25, 2007, 12:10:00 PM
Christian pop, pop, pop music (http://www.glumbert.com/media/godhates)
Title: ?
Post by: ggould on January 25, 2007, 02:31:23 PM
Quote from: "princessofcairo"
Christian pop, pop, pop music (http://www.glumbert.com/media/godhates)

is this a joke?  It doesn't seem real.
Title: Re: ?
Post by: Gazoo on January 25, 2007, 02:48:03 PM
Quote from: "ggould"
Quote from: "princessofcairo"
Christian pop, pop, pop music (http://www.glumbert.com/media/godhates)

is this a joke?  It doesn't seem real.


It's very Borat.  The wispy mustache is a dead giveaway like Shalimar.

PS: DON'T SHAKE A BABY
Title: Re: ?
Post by: RGMike on January 25, 2007, 02:48:41 PM
Quote from: "ggould"
Quote from: "princessofcairo"
Christian pop, pop, pop music (http://www.glumbert.com/media/godhates)

is this a joke?  It doesn't seem real.


It's very odd -- if you follow the link to the band's MySpace page ( http://www.myspace.com/eveningservice ) It has a message that says

"Everybody, we are getting alot of hits right now. People want to know why we're letting Gays be our friends. Well, we never said "We Hate Fags". We want to change this world. So please, come one come all."

WTF?
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on January 25, 2007, 03:00:02 PM
Well I've been Googling, and there seems to be much debate as to whether it's real.  The chorus of the song would seem to be a clue:

"Read the bible and you’ll be sure
to enter Heaven. There’s no back door.
Righteous man, get on your knees.
There lies no virtue in sodomy."

"Back Door"??? ROTFL!

The main website of the band, lovegodsway.com (yes, they do a re-written version of the PsyFurs "Love My Way", har har) is really cheap'n'cheezy looking.
Title: Re: ?
Post by: princessofcairo on January 26, 2007, 01:53:10 AM
Quote from: "Gazoo"
Quote from: "ggould"
Quote from: "princessofcairo"
Christian pop, pop, pop music (http://www.glumbert.com/media/godhates)

is this a joke?  It doesn't seem real.


It's very Borat.  The wispy mustache is a dead giveaway like Shalimar.

PS: DON'T SHAKE A BABY


i think it's catchy!

ps: i read SHAKE A BABY the first time i caught geoff's sig.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on January 26, 2007, 07:29:24 AM
Fundie wackos fight the "Truth":

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/01/26/MNGVLNPGM61.DTL
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: urth on January 27, 2007, 10:00:50 PM
Quote from: "RGMike"
The main website of the band, lovegodsway.com (yes, they do a re-written version of the PsyFurs "Love My Way", har har) is really cheap'n'cheezy looking.


I just ran across two more links to other lovegodsway pages on another music site I read occasionally:

http://lovegodsway.org/GayBands

http://lovegodsway.org/SafeBands

I'm not sure which is more ludicrous--the gay bands or the safe ones. The Doors and the Dead and the Stones? And Frank Sinatra--who knew? But Cyndi Lauper is safe. OK. Guess they haven't heard She-bop lately. And be sure to read the parenthetical info with some of the bands--apparently Ted Nugent's loincloth of 30-odd years ago stuck in someones memory and got him listed on this page--I'm sure he'd be livid if he knew.

What's really funny is that Sufjan Stevens is on the dangerous list, but Danielson is on the safe one, and Sufjan started out as part of the Danielson Famile (sic) before going out on his own. Just shows how little these people know.

(Coincidentally, I just saw the documentary about Danielson at the Red Vic tonight. Knew little if anything about Daniel Smith and his various Danielson incarnations, but have to say I'm intrigued. This guy (and his family) seem to truly get what Christianity is about, live by it, and center their art around it, but don't get heavy-handed or judgemental about it. And he's got a truly unique sound. The film could have had a few scenes cut and not missed them in the slightest, but a really interesting picture of an artist I honestly knew nothing about. Mike, if you (or anyone else) have a chance to get over to the Vic by tomorrow night (Sunday), highly recommended.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: princessofcairo on January 28, 2007, 12:30:41 PM
Quote from: "RGMike"
Fundie wackos fight the "Truth":

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/01/26/MNGVLNPGM61.DTL


i can't believe his name is frosty.
Title: hmmm...
Post by: ggould on January 28, 2007, 02:35:43 PM
Quote from: "princessofcairo"
Quote from: "RGMike"
Fundie wackos fight the "Truth":

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/01/26/MNGVLNPGM61.DTL
i can't believe his name is frosty.

I plan on showing this in my classes.  That's pretty wacked out.  I was showing the opening of 2001, and a couple of girls came up to  me and said they couldn't watch it because of their religion, and evolution.  I just told them it had nothing to do with religion, and sent them back to their seats!
Title: Re: hmmm...
Post by: RGMike on January 28, 2007, 09:20:14 PM
Quote from: "ggould"
Quote from: "princessofcairo"
Quote from: "RGMike"
Fundie wackos fight the "Truth":

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/01/26/MNGVLNPGM61.DTL
i can't believe his name is frosty.

I plan on showing this in my classes.  That's pretty wacked out.  I was showing the opening of 2001, and a couple of girls came up to  me and said they couldn't watch it because of their religion, and evolution.  I just told them it had nothing to do with religion, and sent them back to their seats!


Damn, Geoff, you're gonna get yourself fired!
Title: Re: hmmm...
Post by: princessofcairo on January 29, 2007, 01:13:42 AM
Quote from: "ggould"
Quote from: "princessofcairo"
Quote from: "RGMike"
Fundie wackos fight the "Truth":

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/01/26/MNGVLNPGM61.DTL
i can't believe his name is frosty.

I plan on showing this in my classes.  That's pretty wacked out.  I was showing the opening of 2001, and a couple of girls came up to  me and said they couldn't watch it because of their religion, and evolution.  I just told them it had nothing to do with religion, and sent them back to their seats!


amen!
Title: Re: ?
Post by: princessofcairo on January 29, 2007, 07:56:54 AM
Quote from: "RGMike"


WTF?


more from donnie:

"Oscar Wilde, my hero, was a reformed homosexual. He went to prison for his sins. Once he was alone with his thouhgts, in jail, he saw the errors of his ways and repented. He died as a Christian. While I'm not advocating jailing all Homosexuals, I do think it would benefit them greatly. It would be for their own good. When a person is forced to think they will generally be able to see their problems and solve them by themselves."
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Gazoo on February 05, 2007, 10:05:05 AM
Um, Mary Cheney? Dan Savage would like to have a few words with you. (http://www.thestranger.com/blog/2007/02/the_passion_of_mary_cheney)
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on February 05, 2007, 10:27:08 AM
Quote from: "Gazoo"
Um, Mary Cheney? Dan Savage would like to have a few words with you. (http://www.thestranger.com/blog/2007/02/the_passion_of_mary_cheney)


Brilliant.  Superb.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: mshray on February 05, 2007, 11:11:13 AM
Quote from: "RGMike"
Quote from: "Gazoo"
Um, Mary Cheney? Dan Savage would like to have a few words with you. (http://www.thestranger.com/blog/2007/02/the_passion_of_mary_cheney)


Brilliant.  Superb.


Speaking of brilliant & superb, check out this from the current Newsweek.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/16840018/site/newsweek/
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on February 05, 2007, 12:32:43 PM
props to both Mick LaSalle and Andrew Sullivan for uncovering this amazing Bush 10 years ago vs Bush today clip. Food for thought:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pw4Bhmm22xo&eurl=
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on February 06, 2007, 09:49:21 AM
So, um Ted Haggard has been declared "completely heterosexual". Yeah, right.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/02/06/national/a065332S83.DTL
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: princessofcairo on February 06, 2007, 10:04:52 AM
Quote from: "RGMike"
So, um Ted Haggard has been declared "completely heterosexual". Yeah, right.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/02/06/national/a065332S83.DTL


"He is completely heterosexual," Ralph said. "That is something he discovered. It was the acting-out situations where things took place. It wasn't a constant thing."

is that like saying, "he's only gay when he's having sex with other men?" i wonder, wonder, wonder, wonder if he lay awake at night saying, "thank you, fred"?
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Gazoo on February 06, 2007, 11:10:49 AM
Quote from: "princessofcairo"
Quote from: "RGMike"
So, um Ted Haggard has been declared "completely heterosexual". Yeah, right.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/02/06/national/a065332S83.DTL


"He is completely heterosexual," Ralph said. "That is something he discovered. It was the acting-out situations where things took place. It wasn't a constant thing."


Only a constant thing during three-day meth binges. Praise the Fucking Lord!
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: princessofcairo on February 06, 2007, 11:29:06 AM
Quote from: "Gazoo"
Quote from: "princessofcairo"
Quote from: "RGMike"
So, um Ted Haggard has been declared "completely heterosexual". Yeah, right.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/02/06/national/a065332S83.DTL


"He is completely heterosexual," Ralph said. "That is something he discovered. It was the acting-out situations where things took place. It wasn't a constant thing."


Only a constant thing during three-day meth binges. Praise the Fucking Lord!


maybe he went to donnie davies camp.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on February 06, 2007, 11:45:46 AM
Quote from: "princessofcairo"
maybe he went to donnie davies camp.


http://www.thestranger.com/blog/2007/01/donnie_davies_unmasked_no_really
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on February 07, 2007, 09:22:46 AM
The Haggard story had me humming "I Wanna Be A Cowboy" all afternoon yesterday.

Ted, oh Ted, fighting off homos...

I wanna be a straight boy
And you can be my straight girl...
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: princessofcairo on February 12, 2007, 01:14:42 PM
as this seems to be a catch-all space for things political: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6355169.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6355169.stm).

please.not.again.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: princessofcairo on February 12, 2007, 08:15:13 PM
pirates (http://www.dccomics.com/mad/media/downloads/pirates_poster.jpg)
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Lightnin' Rod on February 12, 2007, 11:38:59 PM
Quote from: "princessofcairo"
pirates (http://www.dccomics.com/mad/media/downloads/pirates_poster.jpg)


that's awesome
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on February 13, 2007, 07:44:30 AM
Quote from: "Rod"
Quote from: "princessofcairo"
pirates (http://www.dccomics.com/mad/media/downloads/pirates_poster.jpg)


that's awesome


indeed -- MAD's come a long way from their old apolitical days.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on March 05, 2007, 12:41:35 PM
A guy named Joe Gandelman has a blog called The Moderate Voice

http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/the-shame-of-ann-coulter/

and here's a great bit about the Coulter/Edwards thing:

Quote
One of the things I find curious about the Coulter phenomenon is how witless her jokes are. Forget for a minute the offensive aspect of her Edwards remark. Just look at it on its face. What's the source of the humor? Edwards isn't gay. He doesn't seem gay. So aside from the fact that she's despicable, she's also not funny. She's not observant. She hasn't paid attention enough to Edwards to find something clever to say about him.

Bergson said that that laughter reinforces the truth. We hear a truth stated unexpectedly, and, taken by surprise at the illumination, we laugh. But people like Coulter don't have any truth on their side. There's nothing they have to say, in earnest or in jest, that's true in any way, and so they can't be funny. That's why Fox's new answer to Colbert and Stewart needs a laugh track. The jokes are witless. They depend on the audience's ignorance and prejudice, not information. They depend, in short, on either stupidity or bigotry. And right now they have the market covered in both areas.

Throughout American history, the two parties have taken turns being right and wrong. Coulter's party, though, is really relishing this moment of historical wrongness. They are rolling around in Wrong. They're trying for Wrong in every way. They're succeeding.


The above is courtesy of Mick LaSalle, BTW -- proving once again that the only interesting opinions on his blog are other peoples'...
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on March 06, 2007, 08:41:33 AM
Merle Haggard says "vote for... Hillary" (?!?):

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/03/06/waxing-lyrical/
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on March 06, 2007, 09:23:47 AM
Scooter Libby found guilty:

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/03/06/national/w090605S45.DTL
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: mshray on March 06, 2007, 09:37:58 AM
Quote from: "RGMike"
Scooter Libby found guilty:

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/03/06/national/w090605S45.DTL


Ginger actually took a moment to mention this during halftime of her 10@10, and I swear she was on the brink of editorializing before catching herself.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on March 08, 2007, 08:28:45 AM
I wanted to post about this yesterday, but the only link I had featured waytoomuch pornographic material (this link is clean).  It seems another gay porn star has been (you should pardon the expression) sucking up to the right-wing water-carriers.  Quite hilarious.  What IS IT with these people?

http://gawker.com/news/the-gays/rightwing-hero-has-porn-past-claim-gays-241948.php
Title: Biblepedia
Post by: Gazoo on March 08, 2007, 11:46:39 AM
For the Christofascists who rue Wikipedia's "liberal bias," here's an alternate take on reality: the "Conservapedia," as described in a NYTimes blog:

http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/03/08/conservapedia-the-word-says-it-all/

I worry that a generation of home-schoolers in the flyovers are taking this kind of Biblepedia absurdity at face value.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on March 12, 2007, 03:53:57 PM
I was unaware of these new internet royalty rules, but they sure make things sound dire, as far as webcasters are concerned:

http://www.savenetradio.org/
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Gazoo on March 12, 2007, 11:25:53 PM
Quote from: "RGMike"
I was unaware of these new internet royalty rules, but they sure make things sound dire, as far as webcasters are concerned:

http://www.savenetradio.org/


Oh, it's no exaggeration; the rates as planned will utterly kill the industry.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on March 21, 2007, 10:58:46 AM
I got all excited when I saw the headline "Schwarzenegger Calls Rush 'Irrelevant'" -- I thought he was talking about the band :wink:

But he means Limbaugh:

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/03/21/national/a074420D44.DTL
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on April 02, 2007, 08:54:52 AM
Well it's about time...

http://rowanlea.com/x-wipes/coult-xw.html
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on April 17, 2007, 01:22:20 PM
Apparently, a tape of Dubya thanking the National Rifle Association "for your work to make America safer" was shown to 3400 NRA members at a gathering in St. Louis last Saturday night... roughly 40 hours before Monday's Virginia Tech shooting tragedy. The playing of the Bush tape is reported in this 4.15.07 St. Lous Post-Dispatch story:

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/stlouiscitycounty/story/678C97A81F2A2D6A862572BE000BF246?OpenDocument&highlight=2%2C%22nra%22

Wanna bet we'll be seeing that tape on Olbermann tonite?
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on May 02, 2007, 03:48:24 PM
Walter Reed Hospital bans Joan Baez:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/05/02/entertainment/e051014D34.DTL
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Gazoo on May 02, 2007, 08:12:56 PM
Quote from: "RGMike"
Walter Reed Hospital bans Joan Baez:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/05/02/entertainment/e051014D34.DTL


That crummy hospital over Washington Square?
Title: Walter Reed Hospital bans Joan Baez
Post by: ggould on May 03, 2007, 09:06:28 AM
Quote from: "RGMike"
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/05/02/entertainment/e051014D34.DTL
KPIG news this AM said there is no ban, no policy, as if it never happened!
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: princessofcairo on May 04, 2007, 12:28:16 AM
Quote from: "RGMike"
I got all excited when I saw the headline "Schwarzenegger Calls Rush 'Irrelevant'" -- I thought he was talking about the band :wink:


that would give the band all the credit they needed!
not like they need any help, though. rush rules!!!
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: mshray on May 04, 2007, 08:54:38 AM
Quote from: "princessofcairo"
Quote from: "RGMike"
I got all excited when I saw the headline "Schwarzenegger Calls Rush 'Irrelevant'" -- I thought he was talking about the band :wink:


that would give the band all the credit they needed!
not like they need any help, though. rush rules!!!


If the folks who make the Ann Coulter toilet paper could make rolls with alternating images of her, Limbaugh, O'Reilly, Hannity, Dobson, Falwell, Robertson and Scalia...I'd not only buy it, I'd give it out for X-mas presents to everybody.

Kudos to the governator for not only callign Limbaugh irrelevant, but also for reminding him that elected officials are not put in office to follow their own agendas, but rather to serve their voters.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: princessofcairo on May 05, 2007, 03:35:51 PM
Quote from: "mshray"


Kudos to the governator for not only callign Limbaugh irrelevant, but also for reminding him that elected officials are not put in office to follow their own agendas, but rather to serve their voters.


it took me a minute, but i got it...
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on May 23, 2007, 04:05:18 PM
Mary Cheney gives birth to a boy.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/05/23/national/w141422D12.DTL

Discuss!
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: princessofcairo on May 24, 2007, 03:24:32 AM
Quote from: "RGMike"
Mary Cheney gives birth to a boy.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/05/23/national/w141422D12.DTL

Discuss!


for a minute, i thought mary was his wife, for instance. i don't remember "mary" being his daughter's name. i thought his daughter's name was "candice," for instance. [which reminds me, last night i finally saw an episode of that tv law show starring candice bergen and jimmy spader! HAWT! except capn' kirk kept showing up] funny she should be the veep for consumer advocacy at aol. i don't know why it's funny. it just makes me laugh, for instance. at least she's advocating something. for instance.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on May 24, 2007, 07:52:09 AM
Quote from: "princessofcairo"
Quote from: "RGMike"
Mary Cheney gives birth to a boy.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/05/23/national/w141422D12.DTL

Discuss!


for a minute, i thought mary was his wife, for instance. i don't remember "mary" being his daughter's name. i thought his daughter's name was "candice," for instance. [which reminds me, last night i finally saw an episode of that tv law show starring candice bergen and jimmy spader! HAWT! except capn' kirk kept showing up] funny she should be the veep for consumer advocacy at aol. i don't know why it's funny. it just makes me laugh, for instance. at least she's advocating something. for instance.


Candice is Newt Gingrich's lesbian sister or half-sister, iirc.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: princessofcairo on May 24, 2007, 03:16:34 PM
Quote from: "RGMike"
Candice is Newt Gingrich's lesbian sister or half-sister, iirc.


*that's* it.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: mshray on July 05, 2007, 08:49:42 AM
If you missed Olberman's reaction to the Libby case, here it is:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19588942/
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on July 05, 2007, 08:57:32 AM
Last week in NYC I read Bill O'Reilly's dis of the Summer of Love in the NY Post; today Ted Nugent did the same in the Wall St Journal (!) -- they read some of it on KFOG this morning.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Gazoo on July 05, 2007, 10:45:52 AM
Quote from: "RGMike"
Last week in NYC I read Bill O'Reilly's dis of the Summer of Love in the NY Post; today Ted Nugent did the same in the Wall St Journal (!) -- they read some of it on KFOG this morning.


The Summer of Drugs
By TED NUGENT
July 3, 2007; Page A17

This summer marks the 40th anniversary of the so-called Summer of Love. Honest and intelligent people will remember it for what it really was: the Summer of Drugs.

Forty years ago hordes of stoned, dirty, stinky hippies converged on San Francisco to "turn on, tune in, and drop out," which was the calling card of LSD proponent Timothy Leary. Turned off by the work ethic and productive American Dream values of their parents, hippies instead opted for a cowardly, irresponsible lifestyle of random sex, life-destroying drugs and mostly soulless rock music that flourished in San Francisco.


Jimi Hendrix: Wasted talent.
The Summer of Drugs climaxed with the Monterey Pop Festival which included some truly virtuoso musical talents such as Jimi Hendrix and Janis Joplin, both of whom would be dead a couple of years later due to drug abuse. Other musical geniuses such as Jim Morrison and Mama Cass would also be dead due to drugs within a few short years. The bodies of chemical-infested, braindead liberal deniers continue to stack up like cordwood.

As a diehard musician, I terribly miss these very talented people who squandered God's gifts in favor of poison and the joke of hipness. I often wonder what musical peaks they could have climbed had they not gagged to death on their own vomit. Their choice of dope over quality of life, musical talent and meaningful relationships with loved ones can only be categorized as despicably selfish.

I literally had to step over stoned, drooling fans, band mates, concert promoters and staff to pursue my musical American Dream throughout the 1960s and 1970s. I flushed more dope and cocaine down backstage toilets than I care to remember. In utter frustration I was even forced to punch my way through violent dopers on occasion. So much for peace and love. The DEA should make me an honorary officer.

I was forced to fire band members and business associates due to mindless, dangerous, illegal drug use. Clean and sober for 59 years, I am still rocking my brains out and approaching my 6,000th concert. Clean and sober is the real party.

Young people make mistakes. I've made my share, but none that involved placing my life or the lives of others at risk because of dope. I saw first-hand too many destroyed lives and wrecked families to ever want to drool and vomit on myself and call that a good time. I put my heart and soul into creating the best music I possibly could and I went hunting instead. My dream continues with ferocity, thank you.

The 1960s, a generation that wanted to hold hands, give peace a chance, smoke dope and change the world, changed it all right: for the worse. America is still suffering the horrible consequences of hippies who thought utopia could be found in joints and intentional disconnect.

A quick study of social statistics before and after the 1960s is quite telling. The rising rates of divorce, high school drop outs, drug use, abortion, sexual diseases and crime, not to mention the exponential expansion of government and taxes, is dramatic. The "if it feels good, do it" lifestyle born of the 1960s has proved to be destructive and deadly.

So now, 40 years later, there are actually people who want to celebrate the anniversary of the Summer of Drugs. Hippies are once again descending on ultra-liberal San Francisco -- a city that once wanted to give shopping carts to the homeless -- to celebrate and try to remember their dopey days of youth when so many of their musical heroes and friends long ago assumed room temperature by "partying" themselves to death. Nice.

While I salute and commend the political and cultural activism of the 1960s that fueled the civil rights movement, other than that, the decade is barren of any positive cultural or social impact. Honest people will remember 1967 for what is truly was.

There is a saying that if you can remember the 1960s, you were not there. I was there and remember the decade in vivid, ugly detail. I remember its toxic underbelly excess because I was caught in the vortex of the music revolution that was sweeping the country, and because my radar was fine-tuned thanks to a clean and sober lifestyle.

Death due to drugs and the social carnage heaped upon America by hippies is nothing to celebrate. That is a fool's game, but it is quite apparent some burned-out hippies never learn.

Mr. Nugent is a rock star releasing his 35th album, "Love Grenade," this summer.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on July 05, 2007, 10:49:26 AM
Quote from: "Gazoo"
Quote from: "RGMike"
Last week in NYC I read Bill O'Reilly's dis of the Summer of Love in the NY Post; today Ted Nugent did the same in the Wall St Journal (!) -- they read some of it on KFOG this morning.


The Summer of Drugs
By TED NUGENT
July 3, 2007; Page A17

This summer marks the 40th anniversary of the so-called Summer of Love. Honest and intelligent people will remember it for what it really was: the Summer of Drugs....


Ted! Oh, Ted! Fighting off dangerrrrr....
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Gazoo on July 05, 2007, 11:24:22 AM
Quote from: "RGMike"
Quote from: "Gazoo"
Quote from: "RGMike"
Last week in NYC I read Bill O'Reilly's dis of the Summer of Love in the NY Post; today Ted Nugent did the same in the Wall St Journal (!) -- they read some of it on KFOG this morning.


The Summer of Drugs
By TED NUGENT
July 3, 2007; Page A17

This summer marks the 40th anniversary of the so-called Summer of Love. Honest and intelligent people will remember it for what it really was: the Summer of Drugs....


Ted! Oh, Ted! Fighting off dangerrrrr....


ROTFL!
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on August 09, 2007, 11:47:35 AM
Mitt Romney's oldest son is named Tagg. I'll bet he's rather... Bourgeois.

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/08/08/questions-about-romneys-sons-and-military-service/
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: mshray on August 13, 2007, 08:47:44 AM
Rove to exit at month's end.

Mr. Morey read an email from a Foghead lady who compared this to a smart-aleck kid coming up to his parents half an hour before bedtime and announcing, "I shall go to bed early tonight."


http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/08/13/national/w045534D99.DTL&tsp=1
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Gazoo on August 13, 2007, 08:56:43 AM
Quote from: "mshray"
Rove to exit at month's end.

Mr. Morey read an email from a Foghead lady who compared this to you a smart-aleck kid coming up to his parents half an hour before bedtime and announcing, "I shall go to bed early tonight."


http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/08/13/national/w045534D99.DTL&tsp=1


My big concern is that he'll use his newfound unaccountability to do even more malevolent works behind the scenes in preparation for the '08 election.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: mshray on August 13, 2007, 09:08:33 AM
Quote from: "Gazoo"
My big concern is that he'll use his newfound unaccountability to do even more malevolent works behind the scenes in preparation for the '08 election.


Yeah, my first thought was how long he'd be out with his 'family concerns' (he has one kid in college, everyone is apparently healthy, so what are his concerns exactly?) before he becomes someone else's campaign consultant.  He made nasty remarks about Hilary on the way out.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on August 13, 2007, 09:30:33 AM
Quote from: "mshray"
Quote from: "Gazoo"
My big concern is that he'll use his newfound unaccountability to do even more malevolent works behind the scenes in preparation for the '08 election.


Yeah, my first thought was how long he'd be out with his 'family concerns' (he has one kid in college, everyone is apparently healthy, so what are his concerns exactly?) before he becomes someone else's campaign consultant.  He made nasty remarks about Hilary on the way out.


There are lots of rumors that Rove is, uh, "family" (as we gays like to say) so at first I thought, "he's moving in with one of his rent boys."
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: mshray on August 15, 2007, 08:38:07 AM
This is the most amazing, damning video you've probably ever seen.  Cheney before he was VP, explaining why Bush Sr. didn't invade Iraq.  

Wait until the last thing he says.

https://pol.moveon.org/donate/cheneyvideo.html?r=2879&id=10976-7621267-AcAz.a&t=2

I go this in an email from my folks who are MoveOn members [disclosure]

(happy birthday Mom!)
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on August 22, 2007, 11:30:00 AM
From Ray Ratto's column in today's Chron:

"It's All About the Sourcing: Jane Skinner of Fox News Channel apparently was the first to break the Michael Vick plea story. Jane Skinner is married to NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell"

 :shock:
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: princessofcairo on August 23, 2007, 12:06:52 AM
If you can watch the video under his picture, please do so. It's most appalling and contradictory.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6958824.stm

TANC: Hardcastle's "19" just came on the radio.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on August 27, 2007, 07:46:43 AM
Going... going... GONE-zo!

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/08/27/national/w054406D80.DTL&tsp=1
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Gazoo on August 27, 2007, 08:35:58 AM
Quote from: "RGMike"
Going... going... GONE-zo!

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/08/27/national/w054406D80.DTL&tsp=1


Saw another variant on this: "Bedtime for Gonzo."

What a fricking relief.  This administration has been nothing but one menace after another, and I'm glad to witness the dismantling of it.  Would have preferred wholesale to gradual, but I'll take what I can get.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on August 27, 2007, 08:37:20 AM
Quote from: "Gazoo"
Quote from: "RGMike"
Going... going... GONE-zo!

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/08/27/national/w054406D80.DTL&tsp=1


Saw another variant on this: "Bedtime for Gonzo."



can't wait to see Olbermann's show tonite.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on August 27, 2007, 08:43:32 AM
Quote from: "RGMike"
Quote from: "Gazoo"
Quote from: "RGMike"
Going... going... GONE-zo!

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/08/27/national/w054406D80.DTL&tsp=1


Saw another variant on this: "Bedtime for Gonzo."



can't wait to see Olbermann's show tonite.


over at hollywood-elsewhere.com, the moderator quoted Yeats ("things fall apart, the center cannot hold") and someone else said the Bush admin was more like a bad limerick than a great poem. So a third party came up with this:

"There once was a man from Crawford
Who could have outdrank Peter Lawford
He dried up his drink
But forgot how to think
And had the worst war plan ever offered"
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on August 27, 2007, 10:13:16 PM
You may have heard the story this week about Ted Nugent, at one of his concerts, saying that Hilary and Obama should "suck on" the business end of a machine gun.  Well, turns out ol' gun-lovin' Ted is another draft-dodging chickenhawk:

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/8/27/142852/095
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Gazoo on August 27, 2007, 11:53:28 PM
Time's "Swampland" blog, which I've really gotten into in recent weeks, ihas an entertaining discussion on Sen. Larry Craig (R., Idaho), who was busted for trying to get his swerve on in an airport restroom:

http://time-blog.com/swampland/

One commenter offered this genuis limerick:

Quote
The Senator from Idaho
Went to restrooms to come, not to go.
Said he, "I'm no nance
It was only my stance
That made some cop think I da ho."
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on August 28, 2007, 07:50:22 AM
Quote from: "Gazoo"
Time's "Swampland" blog, which I've really gotten into in recent weeks, ihas an entertaining discussion on Sen. Larry Craig (R., Idaho), who was busted for trying to get his swerve on in an airport restroom:

http://time-blog.com/swampland/

One commenter offered this genuis limerick:

Quote
The Senator from Idaho
Went to restrooms to come, not to go.
Said he, "I'm no nance
It was only my stance
That made some cop think I da ho."


Ha! -- it's been a good week for limericks.  Apparently (per Wonkette) he's been outed (and denied being gay) before.  And speaking of,  White House Press-credentialed manwhore Jeff Gannon has a book coming out this fall; scuttlebutt is that he's outing Karl Rove, among others.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Gazoo on August 28, 2007, 09:25:23 AM
Quote from: "RGMike"
White House Press-credentialed manwhore Jeff Gannon has a book coming out this fall; scuttlebutt is that he's outing Karl Rove, among others.


(a) I don't believe anything he says. But if this is true, then

(b) WTF WAS/IS HE WAITING FOR???
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on August 28, 2007, 09:46:17 AM
Quote from: "Gazoo"
Quote from: "RGMike"
White House Press-credentialed manwhore Jeff Gannon has a book coming out this fall; scuttlebutt is that he's outing Karl Rove, among others.


(a) I don't believe anything he says. But if this is true, then

(b) WTF WAS/IS HE WAITING FOR???


"I Was a Manwhore For the FBI"
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: mshray on August 30, 2007, 11:46:43 AM
Quote from: "Gazoo"
Time's "Swampland" blog, which I've really gotten into in recent weeks, ihas an entertaining discussion on Sen. Larry Craig (R., Idaho), who was busted for trying to get his swerve on in an airport restroom:

http://time-blog.com/swampland/

One commenter offered this genuis limerick:

Quote
The Senator from Idaho
Went to restrooms to come, not to go.
Said he, "I'm no nance
It was only my stance
That made some cop think I da ho."


No further comment from me, but I needed someplace to put this retouch:


(http://bp0.blogger.com/_7_VME45R1Ak/RtWwbIIdhoI/AAAAAAAAABE/dTxK5ZebREI/s320/20070827-larrycraig.jpg)
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Gazoo on August 30, 2007, 01:40:56 PM
Quote from: "mshray"
Quote from: "Gazoo"
Time's "Swampland" blog, which I've really gotten into in recent weeks, ihas an entertaining discussion on Sen. Larry Craig (R., Idaho), who was busted for trying to get his swerve on in an airport restroom:

http://time-blog.com/swampland/

One commenter offered this genuis limerick:

Quote
The Senator from Idaho
Went to restrooms to come, not to go.
Said he, "I'm no nance
It was only my stance
That made some cop think I da ho."


No further comment from me, but I needed someplace to put this retouch:


(http://bp0.blogger.com/_7_VME45R1Ak/RtWwbIIdhoI/AAAAAAAAABE/dTxK5ZebREI/s320/20070827-larrycraig.jpg)


Delicious(ly evil).
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on September 07, 2007, 11:31:30 AM
Quote from: "Gazoo"
Time's "Swampland" blog, which I've really gotten into in recent weeks, ihas an entertaining discussion on Sen. Larry Craig (R., Idaho), who was busted for trying to get his swerve on in an airport restroom:

http://time-blog.com/swampland/

One commenter offered this genuis limerick:

Quote
The Senator from Idaho
Went to restrooms to come, not to go.
Said he, "I'm no nance
It was only my stance
That made some cop think I da ho."


as usual Mark Morford sums it all up nicely:

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/gate/a/2007/09/07/notes090707.DTL
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on September 07, 2007, 12:10:11 PM
Quote from: "RGMike"
Quote from: "Gazoo"
Time's "Swampland" blog, which I've really gotten into in recent weeks, ihas an entertaining discussion on Sen. Larry Craig (R., Idaho), who was busted for trying to get his swerve on in an airport restroom:

http://time-blog.com/swampland/

One commenter offered this genuis limerick:

Quote
The Senator from Idaho
Went to restrooms to come, not to go.
Said he, "I'm no nance
It was only my stance
That made some cop think I da ho."


as usual Mark Morford sums it all up nicely:

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/gate/a/2007/09/07/notes090707.DTL


and Assmussen has the, er, topper:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2007/09/07/DDASMUSSENBR.DTL

"the new Apple iSTALL can hold up to 5 GOP Senators of your choice"

ROTFLSHIPMP!
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on September 13, 2007, 09:00:01 AM
if you missed it, Olbermann read a great quote last night from HL Mencken, about the Presidency. He wrote this in 1920!:

Quote
"When a candidate for public office faces the voters he does not face men of sense; he faces a mob of men whose chief distinguishing mark is that they are quite incapable of weighing ideas, or even of comprehending any save the most elemental — men whose whole thinking is done in terms of emotion, and whose dominant emotion is dread of what they cannot understand. So confronted, the candidate must either bark with the pack, or count himself lost. His one aim is to disarm suspicion, to arouse confidence in his orthodoxy, to avoid challenge. If he is a man of convictions, of enthusiasm, or self-respect, it is cruelly hard…

The larger the mob, the harder the test. In small areas, before small electorates, a first rate man occasionally fights his way through, carrying even a mob with him by the force of his personality. But when the field is nationwide, and the fight must be waged chiefly at second or third hand, and the force of personality cannot so readily make itself felt, then all the odds are on the man who is, intrinsically the most devious and mediocre — the man who can most adeptly disperse the notion that his mind is a virtual vacuum.

The Presidency tends, year by year, to go to such men. As democracy is perfected, the office represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. We move toward a lofty ideal. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their hearts desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.”
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: mshray on September 13, 2007, 12:41:04 PM
Quote from: "RGMike"
if you missed it, Olbermann read a great quote last night from HL Mencken, about the Presidency. He wrote this in 1920!:

Quote
"When a candidate for public office faces the voters he does not face men of sense; he faces a mob of men whose chief distinguishing mark is that they are quite incapable of weighing ideas, or even of comprehending any save the most elemental — men whose whole thinking is done in terms of emotion, and whose dominant emotion is dread of what they cannot understand. So confronted, the candidate must either bark with the pack, or count himself lost. His one aim is to disarm suspicion, to arouse confidence in his orthodoxy, to avoid challenge. If he is a man of convictions, of enthusiasm, or self-respect, it is cruelly hard…

The larger the mob, the harder the test. In small areas, before small electorates, a first rate man occasionally fights his way through, carrying even a mob with him by the force of his personality. But when the field is nationwide, and the fight must be waged chiefly at second or third hand, and the force of personality cannot so readily make itself felt, then all the odds are on the man who is, intrinsically the most devious and mediocre — the man who can most adeptly disperse the notion that his mind is a virtual vacuum.

The Presidency tends, year by year, to go to such men. As democracy is perfected, the office represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. We move toward a lofty ideal. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their hearts desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.”


F*cking A.  I have long felt precisely that, but it is something else to see it in Mencken's prose.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on September 19, 2007, 10:48:04 AM
Now, I hate Elizabeth Hasslebeck as much as the next guy (well, assuming the next guy isn't Matt Hasslebeck), but... if Barry Manilow is so goddamn fired up and political, then he should COME OUT OF THE FUCKING CLOSET!

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgate/detail?blogid=7&entry_id=20391

Queens who live in Waterford Crystal houses shouldn't throw designer stones. :roll:
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: mshray on September 19, 2007, 01:44:53 PM
Quote from: "RGMike"
Now, I hate Elizabeth Hasslebeck as much as the next guy (well, assuming the next guy isn't Matt Hasslebeck), but... if Barry Manilow is so goddamn fired up and political, then he should COME OUT OF THE FUCKING CLOSET!

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgate/detail?blogid=7&entry_id=20391

Queens who live in Waterford Crystal houses shouldn't throw designer stones. :roll:


are you implying that Matt Hasselbeck is having an affair with his sister-in-law?
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on September 19, 2007, 01:57:56 PM
Quote from: "mshray"
Quote from: "RGMike"
Now, I hate Elizabeth Hasslebeck as much as the next guy (well, assuming the next guy isn't Matt Hasslebeck), but... if Barry Manilow is so goddamn fired up and political, then he should COME OUT OF THE FUCKING CLOSET!

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgate/detail?blogid=7&entry_id=20391

Queens who live in Waterford Crystal houses shouldn't throw designer stones. :roll:


are you implying that Matt Hasselbeck is having an affair with his sister-in-law?


Damn! all this time I thought she was Matt's wife, not Tim's -- I have to start liking Matt again.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Gazoo on September 19, 2007, 07:20:44 PM
Quote from: "RGMike"
Quote from: "mshray"
Quote from: "RGMike"
Now, I hate Elizabeth Hasslebeck as much as the next guy (well, assuming the next guy isn't Matt Hasslebeck), but... if Barry Manilow is so goddamn fired up and political, then he should COME OUT OF THE FUCKING CLOSET!

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgate/detail?blogid=7&entry_id=20391

Queens who live in Waterford Crystal houses shouldn't throw designer stones. :roll:


are you implying that Matt Hasselbeck is having an affair with his sister-in-law?


Damn! all this time I thought she was Matt's wife, not Tim's -- I have to start liking Matt again.


Take heart that she backed the wrong horse there (as with so many other choices).
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Gazoo on September 21, 2007, 08:27:55 PM
A pretty little song here called "Clinton Got a Blow Job."  NSFW.

http://www.ericschwartz.com/stuff/ClintonBJ.mp3
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: SFGuy on September 24, 2007, 12:34:57 AM
Anybody catch the newest episode of Family Guy on Sunday (the one where the parodied Star Wars)? Seth MacFarlane actually had Rush Limbaugh do a guest voice as himself. What makes it interest is that MacFarlane pretty much is a liberal (who created American Dad as a result of "Dubyah"'s win in 2004). I thought it was someone doing Limbaugh's voice until I saw the closing credits (which also included the voices of Chevy Chase and Beverly D'Angelo as the Griswolds from the movie Vacation and Helen Reddy).

I found it interesting (a) MacFarlane would use Limbaugh and (b) Limbaugh would do it unless Limbaugh doesn't know MacFarlane's a liberal and makes fun of the right-wing on both of his shows on FOX.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Gazoo on September 24, 2007, 08:06:27 AM
Quote from: "SFGuy"
Anybody catch the newest episode of Family Guy on Sunday (the one where the parodied Star Wars)? Seth MacFarlane actually had Rush Limbaugh do a guest voice as himself. What makes it interest is that MacFarlane pretty much is a liberal (who created American Dad as a result of "Dubyah"'s win in 2004). I thought it was someone doing Limbaugh's voice until I saw the closing credits (which also included the voices of Chevy Chase and Beverly D'Angelo as the Griswolds from the movie Vacation and Helen Reddy).

I found it interesting (a) MacFarlane would use Limbaugh and (b) Limbaugh would do it unless Limbaugh doesn't know MacFarlane's a liberal and makes fun of the right-wing on both of his shows on FOX.


It was a curiosity, yes.  I'm sure Rush knows where Seth's and the show's politics lie and either is a big fan of the show anyway or just wanted to prove to the public that he can reach across the aisle.  (And yes, I likewise watched the credits to see if that was actually them. Add to the list: Mick "Simply Red" Hucknall.)
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: mshray on September 24, 2007, 09:31:00 AM
Quote from: "Gazoo"
Quote from: "SFGuy"
Anybody catch the newest episode of Family Guy on Sunday (the one where the parodied Star Wars)? Seth MacFarlane actually had Rush Limbaugh do a guest voice as himself. What makes it interest is that MacFarlane pretty much is a liberal (who created American Dad as a result of "Dubyah"'s win in 2004). I thought it was someone doing Limbaugh's voice until I saw the closing credits (which also included the voices of Chevy Chase and Beverly D'Angelo as the Griswolds from the movie Vacation and Helen Reddy).

I found it interesting (a) MacFarlane would use Limbaugh and (b) Limbaugh would do it unless Limbaugh doesn't know MacFarlane's a liberal and makes fun of the right-wing on both of his shows on FOX.


It was a curiosity, yes.  I'm sure Rush knows where Seth's and the show's politics lie and either is a big fan of the show anyway or just wanted to prove to the public that he can reach across the aisle.  (And yes, I likewise watched the credits to see if that was actually them. Add to the list: Mick "Simply Red" Hucknall.)


Rush has a history of doing stuff to prove that he has a sense of humor.  Some years ago, the owner of my favorite BBQ joint in the world, Woody's in Santa Barbara, ended his long-standing ad account with a local station when they added Rush's show.  Rush got wind of it, mentioned it in his show, but said that although he thought about complaining or advocating a boycott, instead he was going to ask all his loyal Sta. Barbarian listeners to go to Woody's & buy lots of ribs.  He even stopped in a few weeks later himself.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on September 24, 2007, 10:39:37 AM
Quote from: "Gazoo"
Quote from: "SFGuy"
Anybody catch the newest episode of Family Guy on Sunday (the one where the parodied Star Wars)? Seth MacFarlane actually had Rush Limbaugh do a guest voice as himself. What makes it interest is that MacFarlane pretty much is a liberal (who created American Dad as a result of "Dubyah"'s win in 2004). I thought it was someone doing Limbaugh's voice until I saw the closing credits (which also included the voices of Chevy Chase and Beverly D'Angelo as the Griswolds from the movie Vacation and Helen Reddy).

I found it interesting (a) MacFarlane would use Limbaugh and (b) Limbaugh would do it unless Limbaugh doesn't know MacFarlane's a liberal and makes fun of the right-wing on both of his shows on FOX.


It was a curiosity, yes.  I'm sure Rush knows where Seth's and the show's politics lie and either is a big fan of the show anyway or just wanted to prove to the public that he can reach across the aisle.  (And yes, I likewise watched the credits to see if that was actually them. Add to the list: Mick "Simply Red" Hucknall.)


I still hate FG -- cheap Simpsons ripoff, period. A Star Wars parody in 2007? gee, how incredibly cutting edge!

I think McFarlane is more libertarian than liberal (compared to, say the Simpsons writers). He's more concerned with being politically incorrect and gross (and covering all the bases) than with presenting a cohesive worldview. But he's had Olbermann on as a voice too, so credit where credit is due.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: mshray on September 24, 2007, 10:56:44 AM
Quote from: "RGMike"
Quote from: "Gazoo"
Quote from: "SFGuy"
Anybody catch the newest episode of Family Guy on Sunday (the one where the parodied Star Wars)? Seth MacFarlane actually had Rush Limbaugh do a guest voice as himself. What makes it interest is that MacFarlane pretty much is a liberal (who created American Dad as a result of "Dubyah"'s win in 2004). I thought it was someone doing Limbaugh's voice until I saw the closing credits (which also included the voices of Chevy Chase and Beverly D'Angelo as the Griswolds from the movie Vacation and Helen Reddy).

I found it interesting (a) MacFarlane would use Limbaugh and (b) Limbaugh would do it unless Limbaugh doesn't know MacFarlane's a liberal and makes fun of the right-wing on both of his shows on FOX.


It was a curiosity, yes.  I'm sure Rush knows where Seth's and the show's politics lie and either is a big fan of the show anyway or just wanted to prove to the public that he can reach across the aisle.  (And yes, I likewise watched the credits to see if that was actually them. Add to the list: Mick "Simply Red" Hucknall.)


I still hate FG -- cheap Simpsons ripoff, period. A Star Wars parody in 2007? gee, how incredibly cutting edge!

I think McFarlane is more libertarian than liberal (compared to, say the Simpsons writers). He's more concerned with being politically incorrect and gross (and covering all the bases) than with presenting a cohesive worldview. But he's had Olbermann on as a voice too, so credit where credit is due.


Maybe McFarlane has a 7-yr-old boy.  

Mine interrupted dinner conversation on Saturday to ask me what was the name the Sith Lord robot with the four arms from SW II, and I had to tell him that he was not a Sith Lord, only a normal bad guy, and (after checking in a nearby SW coloring book that I remembered had his picture) that his name was Gen. Grievous.  

My son loves nothing more than Star Wars, but he couldn't have gotten *in* to it any sooner than now.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on September 24, 2007, 11:00:37 AM
Quote from: "mshray"
Maybe McFarlane has a 7-yr-old boy.  


Or maybe he's full of Sith.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on October 02, 2007, 09:57:52 PM
The great Roy Zimmerman (late of the Foremen) and his hilarious new song "Ted Haggard is Completely Heterosexual":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZmHC75FDqQ

"and glory, HowHeBlewYa!"
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Gazoo on October 04, 2007, 10:39:27 PM
Now that Stephen Colbert has not only brought a bong out onto his show but demonstrated that he knows how to toke off one, I officially want to do him.

Tangentially, I understand that it may be treasonous to wish death upon our President, but is it treasonous to wish upon him a death equal in suffering to that upon which he foists people worldwide as a direct result of his policies?  Just idly curious.  Not that I'm embittered about any present vetoes or anything.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on October 17, 2007, 11:48:56 AM
Quote from: "Gazoo"
Now that Stephen Colbert has not only brought a bong out onto his show but demonstrated that he knows how to toke off one, I officially want to do him.


Yes, but will you vote for him?  He has officially declared:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/10/16/entertainment/e205128D42.DTL

Not sure how I feel about this -- I think he's brilliant, but the faux-presidential-campaign is a pretty tired trope.  Could be his undoing if he's not careful.
Title: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Gazoo on October 17, 2007, 10:43:58 PM
Quote from: "RGMike"
Quote from: "Gazoo"
Now that Stephen Colbert has not only brought a bong out onto his show but demonstrated that he knows how to toke off one, I officially want to do him.


Yes, but will you vote for him?  He has officially declared:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/10/16/entertainment/e205128D42.DTL

Not sure how I feel about this -- I think he's brilliant, but the faux-presidential-campaign is a pretty tired trope.  Could be his undoing if he's not careful.


Good point; he's staking a lot on this.  He could become the next Pat Paulsen.  Or more optimistically, he'll pull back the curtain and show how a presidential campaign is waged.

He's off to a good start tonight, I must say.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on December 03, 2007, 04:04:36 PM
8 men out? Well, 8 men tell an Idaho newspaper they had sex with Larry "I'm not Gay" Craig:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/12/02/national/a145356S08.DTL
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on December 13, 2007, 10:38:27 AM
a terrific Jon Carroll piece about Romney, Huckabee et al.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/12/13/DD2JTS7O0.DTL
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on December 18, 2007, 08:28:57 PM
Maybe you've seen this Mike Huckabee Christmas ad:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMUI2XExdIA

Is he appealing to Fundies or warding off vampires?
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: mshray on January 11, 2008, 09:40:04 AM
In the year end Rolling Stone, Bill Maher has a page listing his Dickheads of the Year, and in it he offers up a very good point about Sen. Larry Craig:

"Don't people like Larry Craig and Ted Haggard and Mark Foley prove that being gay really is a hard-wired thing - and not, as the conservatives like to say, a 'lifestyle choice'?  If anyone could choose not to have gay sex, it would be these guys, since their whole careers are built on not having gay sex."
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on January 11, 2008, 09:56:49 AM
In the year end Rolling Stone, Bill Maher has a page listing his Dickheads of the Year, and in it he offers up a very good point about Sen. Larry Craig:

"Don't people like Larry Craig and Ted Haggard and Mark Foley prove that being gay really is a hard-wired thing - and not, as the conservatives like to say, a 'lifestyle choice'?  If anyone could choose not to have gay sex, it would be these guys, since their whole careers are built on not having gay sex."

couldn't've put it better myself.  Unfortunately, it's a logical argument completely lost on the Fundies -- these guys were just "tempted by the devil" and that's that. "Born that way" has nothing to do with it, as far as they're concerned  >:(  >:(  >:(
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on January 15, 2008, 08:41:12 AM
In case youmissed this story the other day, Faux News reported that Paul Begala of CNN was joining the Clinton campaign. But Begala wasn't doing anything of the kind, and when he called and e-mailed Fox to tell them the truth... well, read his piece from the H-P:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/paul-begala/fox-news-we-report-e_b_80698.html
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Gazoo on March 10, 2008, 01:29:57 PM
Not a right-wing thing, but since this thread catches all things politics: RIP to Eliot Spitzer's political career.  I'm waiting for a "Client 9 From Outer Space" hed along with a maelstrom of "Spitzer/swallower" puns from the likes of the Post.  Sigh ... As I told a friend here, neither the Democratic Party nor the state of New York need this drama right now.   >:(
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on March 10, 2008, 02:26:36 PM
Not a right-wing thing, but since this thread catches all things politics: RIP to Eliot Spitzer's political career.  I'm waiting for a "Client 9 From Outer Space" hed along with a maelstrom of "Spitzer/swallower" puns from the likes of the Post.  Sigh ... As I told a friend here, neither the Democratic Party nor the state of New York need this drama right now.   >:(

indeed... it amazes me how politicians can be so stupid. Granted, Dems don't usually match Repugs, in re: the hypocrisy factor, but Spitzer did try to be "Elliot Ness"  so there's that.  OTOH, he's a Clintonian rather than an Obamian, so I'm not crying tears over him.  ;)
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on March 11, 2008, 07:46:50 AM
I'm waiting for a "Client 9 From Outer Space" hed along with a maelstrom of "Spitzer/swallower" puns from the likes of the Post. 

or, as Olbermann said last nite: "Spitzer? I hardlly knew 'er!"
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: mshray on March 11, 2008, 08:58:52 AM

Granted, Dems don't usually match Repugs, in re: the hypocrisy factor


But that's no excuse, at least for me, b/c I don't expect the GOP to make the world a better place, and when guys like Bill & Elliott, who had the potential to do so much more good than they'd already done, get caught with their dicks literally hanging out...well it just grieves me no end. 
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on March 12, 2008, 07:54:52 AM
I'm waiting for a "Client 9 From Outer Space" hed along with a maelstrom of "Spitzer/swallower" puns from the likes of the Post. 

or, as Olbermann said last nite: "Spitzer? I hardlly knew 'er!"

And one more: "Elliot Mess" (Colbert used this one Mon nite)

But it's official: Spitzer resigns.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2008/03/10/national/a111438D03.DTL&tsp=1
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: SFGuy on March 14, 2008, 08:04:41 PM
How about this for a rarity?? Right wing talk show host Glenn Beck supported the right for that gay Iranian teenager to get asylum and wondered why he didn't get it (as of the date of the show, Thursday, March 13th) comparing it to a situation in the late 30's with a ship full of Jews trying to get asylum and several countries wouldn't. Below is part of the transcript of that show. I never would of thought even once a right winger would be supporting a gay person (even allowing the guest that he had on to give the e-mail address of a gay muslim House of Lords member in the UK):

All right. I want to take a hard turn here and tell you a quick story. Back in 1939, there was a large cruise ship. It set sail across the Atlantic. On board, 936 asylum seekers.

After many, many days at sea, the ship finally reached Cuba, where it anchored, and it was sitting there in the harbor. It was waiting clearance to unload the people. Well, the clearance never came. Ship turned away from Cuba.

Next, the ship tried to get permission to enter the United States, come here. Nope. Canada, no. Went away.

Running low on food and water and unable to find any country to take them, the ship sailed back across the Atlantic, where its passengers were finally accepted into four different European countries.

The ship was the S.S. St. Louis. The passengers were German Jews, trying to escape Hitler`s impending Holocaust, the Holocaust that everybody knew was coming, no matter what the history book tells you now. Read "Mein Kampf."

Who knows how many of those Jews eventually ended up dead in one of Hitler`s death camps, because not one country, including our own, would stand up and give them shelter.

Unfortunately, "The Real Story" tonight is, the S.S. St. Louis sails again. But this time, it`s not Jews looking to escape certain death. It`s just one; one gay teenager from Iran.

This guy, while he was in Britain on a student visa, his boyfriend was executed in Iran after publicly admitting their homosexual relationship. Fearing that he, too, would be killed if he returned to Iran, he asked the British government for asylum. They said no. Why? Well, they don`t call it Londonistan for nothing. You do the math.

From there, he went to the Netherlands, a place where hookers and pot are OK, but somebody looking for asylum, who`s facing execution because of their sexual orientation, not so much. Why? Well, the Netherlands, this is where Van Gogh was assassinated by a radical Muslim over a movie script and then I think the cartoon thing, as well. Once again, do the math.

And that leaves this teenager nowhere, a man without a country. The Netherlands is shipping him back to Britain. Britain might ship him back to Iran. And then what? A public stoning? Maybe a nice, warm acid bath?

Maybe it`s time we update the great post-World War II poem. First they came for the Jews, and I didn`t speak up, because I wasn`t a Jew. Then they came for the homosexuals. And I didn`t speak up, because I wasn`t a homosexual. Then they came for me. And by then, there was no one left to speak up for me.

Who will speak up now and take this modern-day German Jew in?
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on March 14, 2008, 08:47:50 PM
How about this for a rarity?? Right wing talk show host Glenn Beck supported the right for that gay Iranian teenager to get asylum and wondered why he didn't get it (as of the date of the show, Thursday, March 13th) comparing it to a situation in the late 30's with a ship full of Jews trying to get asylum and several countries wouldn't. Below is part of the transcript of that show. I never would of thought even once a right winger would be supporting a gay person (even allowing the guest that he had on to give the e-mail address of a gay muslim House of Lords member in the UK):


I must say I'm surprised and impressed, since I probably hate Glenn Beck twice as much as you hate Olbermann.  ;)  Beck is a Mormon and was a Romney supporter -- perhaps seeing Mitt's candidacy falter, in large part because the Christian fundamentalists hate Mormons, opened Glenn's eyes a bit.  At least it would be nice to think so.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: ggould on March 14, 2008, 10:53:17 PM
How about this for a rarity?? Right wing talk show host Glenn Beck supported the right for that gay Iranian teenager to get asylum and wondered why he didn't get it (as of the date of the show, Thursday, March 13th) comparing it to a situation in the late 30's with a ship full of Jews trying to get asylum and several countries wouldn't. Below is part of the transcript of that show. I never would of thought even once a right winger would be supporting a gay person (even allowing the guest that he had on to give the e-mail address of a gay muslim House of Lords member in the UK):


I must say I'm surprised and impressed, since I probably hate Glenn Beck twice as much as you hate Olbermann.  ;)  Beck is a Mormon and was a Romney supporter -- perhaps seeing Mitt's candidacy falter, in large part because the Christian fundamentalists hate Mormons, opened Glenn's eyes a bit.  At least it would be nice to think so.
I can't bear Beck.  It seems he's on every time I'm on the treadmill at the Y!  I think he just hates Muslims more than he hates gays. 
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: SFGuy on March 15, 2008, 11:22:19 PM
How about this for a rarity?? Right wing talk show host Glenn Beck supported the right for that gay Iranian teenager to get asylum and wondered why he didn't get it (as of the date of the show, Thursday, March 13th) comparing it to a situation in the late 30's with a ship full of Jews trying to get asylum and several countries wouldn't. Below is part of the transcript of that show. I never would of thought even once a right winger would be supporting a gay person (even allowing the guest that he had on to give the e-mail address of a gay muslim House of Lords member in the UK):


I must say I'm surprised and impressed, since I probably hate Glenn Beck twice as much as you hate Olbermann.  ;)  Beck is a Mormon and was a Romney supporter -- perhaps seeing Mitt's candidacy falter, in large part because the Christian fundamentalists hate Mormons, opened Glenn's eyes a bit.  At least it would be nice to think so.
I can't bear Beck.  It seems he's on every time I'm on the treadmill at the Y!  I think he just hates Muslims more than he hates gays. 

Normally he would just ignore the story so it was still surprising. He also didn't have the voice of disdain when he was mentioning the teen's boyfriend. It was a voice in "How could he be treated like this?"
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: ggould on March 16, 2008, 10:33:38 AM
How about this for a rarity?? Right wing talk show host Glenn Beck supported the right for that gay Iranian teenager to get asylum and wondered why he didn't get it (as of the date of the show, Thursday, March 13th) comparing it to a situation in the late 30's with a ship full of Jews trying to get asylum and several countries wouldn't. Below is part of the transcript of that show. I never would of thought even once a right winger would be supporting a gay person (even allowing the guest that he had on to give the e-mail address of a gay muslim House of Lords member in the UK):
I must say I'm surprised and impressed, since I probably hate Glenn Beck twice as much as you hate Olbermann.  ;)  Beck is a Mormon and was a Romney supporter -- perhaps seeing Mitt's candidacy falter, in large part because the Christian fundamentalists hate Mormons, opened Glenn's eyes a bit.  At least it would be nice to think so.
I can't bear Beck.  It seems he's on every time I'm on the treadmill at the Y!  I think he just hates Muslims more than he hates gays. 
Normally he would just ignore the story so it was still surprising. He also didn't have the voice of disdain when he was mentioning the teen's boyfriend. It was a voice in "How could he be treated like this?"
Well, perhaps this proves the point that even inside Darth Vader there lurks a soul.  I wonder if something personal in Glenn's life has done this.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Lightnin' Rod on March 20, 2008, 09:28:25 AM
Enjoyable column by Jon Carrol today.  I guess this belongs in this thread:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/03/20/DDJQVM6S3.DTL
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Gazoo on March 20, 2008, 09:32:39 AM
Enjoyable column by Jon Carrol today.  I guess this belongs in this thread:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/03/20/DDJQVM6S3.DTL

Truly one of his best columns yet, and he's had a lot of great ones.  Thanks for the heads-up!
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on March 20, 2008, 09:36:57 AM
Enjoyable column by Jon Carrol today.  I guess this belongs in this thread:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/03/20/DDJQVM6S3.DTL

Truly one of his best columns yet, and he's had a lot of great ones.  Thanks for the heads-up!

indeed that is wonderful. I can't decide which line is better: the one about homosexuals at Bear Stearns or "it seems to me that celebrating being Irish by drinking is like celebrating being black by picking cotton".
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: urth on March 20, 2008, 10:18:22 AM
Sign of hope: Amid all the large-scale protests yesterday commemorating the fifth anniversary of Iraq's invasion, I witnessed a very small one. I was in a small town in Oregon, about an hour outside Portland (McMinnville if that means anything to you--Rastermon, you out there?), and encountered a lone woman, probably in her late 50s or early 60s, walking down the main street carrying a homemade sign with a picture of an Iraqi woman in anguish, that bore the legend "Five years." Both Sarah and I thanked her. It's good to see people standing up. Need more of that. 
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on March 20, 2008, 10:26:50 AM
Sign of hope: Amid all the large-scale protests yesterday commemorating the fifth anniversary of Iraq's invasion, I witnessed a very small one. I was in a small town in Oregon, about an hour outside Portland (McMinnville if that means anything to you--Rastermon, you out there?), and encountered a lone woman, probably in her late 50s or early 60s, walking down the main street carrying a homemade sign with a picture of an Iraqi woman in anguish, that bore the legend "Five years." Both Sarah and I thanked her. It's good to see people standing up. Need more of that. 

there was discussion on MSNBC yesterday of the fact that the protests were not all that large (and what-does-it-mean in an Election '08 context).
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Gazoo on March 20, 2008, 10:30:53 AM
Sign of hope: Amid all the large-scale protests yesterday commemorating the fifth anniversary of Iraq's invasion, I witnessed a very small one. I was in a small town in Oregon, about an hour outside Portland (McMinnville if that means anything to you--Rastermon, you out there?), and encountered a lone woman, probably in her late 50s or early 60s, walking down the main street carrying a homemade sign with a picture of an Iraqi woman in anguish, that bore the legend "Five years." Both Sarah and I thanked her. It's good to see people standing up. Need more of that. 

there was discussion on MSNBC yesterday of the fact that the protests were not all that large (and what-does-it-mean in an Election '08 context).

What-it-means to me is that a whole lot of Americans (a) learned long ago that this administration is wholly unresponsive to protest in any form, and (b) didn't want to risk losing their jobs over a war protest as recession looms.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: urth on March 20, 2008, 02:43:55 PM
Power of the press? What power of the press?

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003727274

Fat lot of good it did us.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on March 27, 2008, 08:18:35 PM
Just saw this on TV -- they bought time on Comedy Central. Giving new meaning to the phrase "Yacht Rock":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AISA-Rj2mzc

I wasn't familiar with Courage Campaign until now, but apparently they're quite active.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: ggould on April 14, 2008, 10:56:08 PM
I just saw this TED talk Al Gore did.  It's a little scary, but I do want others to watch it.  If you think it's worthwhile, pass the link along:

http://www.ted.com/talks/view/id/243
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on April 23, 2008, 10:56:52 AM
ah, religion will truly be the death of us all:

http://www.wyff4.com/news/15948849/detail.html
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Gazoo on April 23, 2008, 09:58:31 PM
ah, religion will truly be the death of us all:

http://www.wyff4.com/news/15948849/detail.html

Quote
When asked if he believes that Barack Obama is Muslim, Byrd said, "I don't know. See it asks a question: Are they brothers? In other words, is he Muslim ? I don't know. He says he's not. I hope he's not. But I don't know.

Is Pastor Byrd a child-fucker?  I don't know.  See, I asked a question: Is he a child-fucker?  In other words, does he fuck children?  I don't know.  He says he doesn't.  I hope he doesn't.  But I don't know.

On a more serious note: How fucking arrogant of Pastor Byrd to say "I hope he's not" a Muslim.  It is not for any of us to "hope" what another's spiritual path will be.  He's gotta lay the fuck off.  But hey, "no hard feelings," right?
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Lightnin' Rod on April 24, 2008, 09:03:14 AM
ah, religion will truly be the death of us all:

http://www.wyff4.com/news/15948849/detail.html

Quote
When asked if he believes that Barack Obama is Muslim, Byrd said, "I don't know. See it asks a question: Are they brothers? In other words, is he Muslim ? I don't know. He says he's not. I hope he's not. But I don't know.

Is Pastor Byrd a child-fucker?  I don't know.  See, I asked a question: Is he a child-fucker?  In other words, does he fuck children?  I don't know.  He says he doesn't.  I hope he doesn't.  But I don't know.

On a more serious note: How fucking arrogant of Pastor Byrd to say "I hope he's not" a Muslim.  It is not for any of us to "hope" what another's spiritual path will be.  He's gotta lay the fuck off.  But hey, "no hard feelings," right?

I wonder if Pastor Byrd has an email address -- I would love to forward him this post.  Well said Gaz.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Gazoo on April 24, 2008, 02:07:04 PM
Thanks, Rod.

Meantime, there should be a special place in hell for John Ashcroft:
http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2008/04/first-salvo-in-next-nuremberg-by-dday.html

And I wholly expect that in the next 5-10 years we will see him, Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, and John Yoo on trial for war crimes.  Sociopathic thugs, all of them.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: mshray on April 24, 2008, 08:55:01 PM
Thanks, Rod.

Meantime, there should be a special place in hell for John Ashcroft:
http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2008/04/first-salvo-in-next-nuremberg-by-dday.html

And I wholly expect that in the next 5-10 years we will see him, Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, and John Yoo on trial for war crimes.  Sociopathic thugs, all of them.

Wow, what a damning performance.  Awesome research by that blogger on the 15 yrs hard labor sentence meted out to the Japanese guy for waterboarding enemy combatants in WWII.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on May 16, 2008, 07:41:05 AM
damn, this is *SO* f---ing great:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1wSZBTAXRs&eurl=http://hollywood-elsewhere.com/2008/05/excellent_matth.php
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Gazoo on May 16, 2008, 09:04:11 AM
damn, this is *SO* f---ing great:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1wSZBTAXRs&eurl=http://hollywood-elsewhere.com/2008/05/excellent_matth.php

I clicked on this even though I hate Tweety Matthews.  What a dolt this Kevin James is (I'd never heard of him before).  "What did he DO?"  "He was an APPEASER!" (x10)
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on May 16, 2008, 09:07:28 AM
damn, this is *SO* f---ing great:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1wSZBTAXRs&eurl=http://hollywood-elsewhere.com/2008/05/excellent_matth.php

I clicked on this even though I hate Tweety Matthews.  What a dolt this Kevin James is (I'd never heard of him before).  "What did he DO?"  "He was an APPEASER!" (x10)

Matthews can be annoying but he also doesn't tolerate BS from guests, as this illustrates. Mr James is one of the literally hundreds of Limbaugh/O'Reilly clones on AM radio stations all over the country. VERY scary.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Lightnin' Rod on May 16, 2008, 11:24:40 AM
damn, this is *SO* f---ing great:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1wSZBTAXRs&eurl=http://hollywood-elsewhere.com/2008/05/excellent_matth.php

I clicked on this even though I hate Tweety Matthews.  What a dolt this Kevin James is (I'd never heard of him before).  "What did he DO?"  "He was an APPEASER!" (x10)



Matthews can be annoying but he also doesn't tolerate BS from guests, as this illustrates. Mr James is one of the literally hundreds of Limbaugh/O'Reilly clones on AM radio stations all over the country. VERY scary.

I had to go check -- Kevin James, the fat sitcom actor (King of Queens) is a conservative talk show host now?  Not the same Kevin James, obviously.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on May 16, 2008, 11:33:13 AM
damn, this is *SO* f---ing great:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1wSZBTAXRs&eurl=http://hollywood-elsewhere.com/2008/05/excellent_matth.php

I clicked on this even though I hate Tweety Matthews.  What a dolt this Kevin James is (I'd never heard of him before).  "What did he DO?"  "He was an APPEASER!" (x10)



Matthews can be annoying but he also doesn't tolerate BS from guests, as this illustrates. Mr James is one of the literally hundreds of Limbaugh/O'Reilly clones on AM radio stations all over the country. VERY scary.

I had to go check -- Kevin James, the fat sitcom actor (King of Queens) is a conservative talk show host now?  Not the same Kevin James, obviously.

hey, if Mark McGrath from Sugar Ray can become an "entertainment reporter", anything's possible...  I'm still floored by the fact that Brian Sussman, the once-likable weather guy on Channel 5, is now a right-wing radio guy.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: urth on May 16, 2008, 11:50:43 AM
damn, this is *SO* f---ing great:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1wSZBTAXRs&eurl=http://hollywood-elsewhere.com/2008/05/excellent_matth.php

I clicked on this even though I hate Tweety Matthews.  What a dolt this Kevin James is (I'd never heard of him before).  "What did he DO?"  "He was an APPEASER!" (x10)

This bonehead clearly had a list of talking points he'd been coached on, but had no background for those points. And Matthews called him on his shit. Good for him.

Also loved the part where Matthews asked him why he was yelling. I bet that's how James does 90% of his show--it makes him sound passionate and gets listeners fired up, and obscures the fact that he's just spouting rhetoric.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on May 16, 2008, 12:00:21 PM
[This bonehead clearly had a list of talking points he'd been coached on, but had no background for those points. And Matthews called him on his shit. Good for him.

Also loved the part where Matthews asked him why he was yelling. I bet that's how James does 90% of his show--it makes him sound passionate and gets listeners fired up, and obscures the fact that he's just spouting rhetoric.

And yelling (to some extent) *works* on radio -- it's what MOST of those Rush/Savage/Glenn Beck-style wingnuts do -- but on TV it just makes you look like a moron.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: ggould on May 17, 2008, 12:41:25 PM
damn, this is *SO* f---ing great:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1wSZBTAXRs&eurl=http://hollywood-elsewhere.com/2008/05/excellent_matth.php
and coincidentally (or TANC if you prefer!) a friend just sent me a link to digby's blog on the subject:
http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2008/05/dont-know-much-about-history-by-dday.html
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on May 21, 2008, 12:14:38 PM
the Savage Wiener strikes again:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgate/detail?blogid=14&entry_id=26686

words cannot express my hatred for Mr Savage.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Gazoo on May 21, 2008, 12:27:10 PM
the Savage Wiener strikes again:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgate/detail?blogid=14&entry_id=26686

words cannot express my hatred for Mr Savage.

In agreement with ya.  As an aside, as one blog respondent pointed out, the Rockstar beverage company was started by Savage's son.  I strongly encourage avoiding those products for that reason.  (I drink a lot of energy drinks, and disliked that one anyway: it has milk thistle, which wreaks havok on my digestive system.)
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: mshray on May 29, 2008, 02:11:31 PM
It's going to be interesting to see how the GOP responds to Scott McClellan's book.  I saw part of his interview on Today this morning.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2008/05/29/national/w043328D00.DTL&tsp=1 (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2008/05/29/national/w043328D00.DTL&tsp=1)
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on May 29, 2008, 02:22:25 PM
It's going to be interesting to see how the GOP responds to Scott McClellan's book.  I saw part of his interview on Today this morning.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2008/05/29/national/w043328D00.DTL&tsp=1 (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2008/05/29/national/w043328D00.DTL&tsp=1)

He's doing Olbermann tonite.  McClellan has long been rumored to, er, have something in common with Gaz & myself -- I'm wondering how long before someone in the right-wing blogosphere attempts to "out" him. This story will be front-an-center thru the weekend at least, as he'll be doing the Sunday talking-head shows.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: SFGuy on May 29, 2008, 10:10:42 PM
It's going to be interesting to see how the GOP responds to Scott McClellan's book.  I saw part of his interview on Today this morning.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2008/05/29/national/w043328D00.DTL&tsp=1 (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2008/05/29/national/w043328D00.DTL&tsp=1)

I think a few have already said he has an ax to grind and is trying to make some money.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on May 30, 2008, 07:57:17 AM
Assmussen weighs in on McClellan:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/05/30/DDASMUSSENBR.DTL&hw=don+asmussen&sn=001&sc=1000
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Gazoo on May 30, 2008, 09:06:36 AM
It's going to be interesting to see how the GOP responds to Scott McClellan's book.  I saw part of his interview on Today this morning.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2008/05/29/national/w043328D00.DTL&tsp=1 (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2008/05/29/national/w043328D00.DTL&tsp=1)

He's doing Olbermann tonite.  McClellan has long been rumored to, er, have something in common with Gaz & myself -- I'm wondering how long before someone in the right-wing blogosphere attempts to "out" him. This story will be front-an-center thru the weekend at least, as he'll be doing the Sunday talking-head shows.
He's doing the Daily Show with Jon Stewart on Monday, no?
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: mshray on May 30, 2008, 09:30:44 AM
It's going to be interesting to see how the GOP responds to Scott McClellan's book.  I saw part of his interview on Today this morning.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2008/05/29/national/w043328D00.DTL&tsp=1 (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2008/05/29/national/w043328D00.DTL&tsp=1)

I think a few have already said he has an ax to grind and is trying to make some money.

He deflected that as much as one can on his Today appearance. 

I mean, what else are the rest of them going to say? 
"Yeah, I have known Scott a long time, and this is exactly the same stuff we've all felt in our guts, but were to chicken to speak out on."

Of course not.  I don't think anyone commenting on the book publicly the last 2 days has actually read the whole thing word for word, and he said his *main* point is that DC is completely given over now to 24/7/365 bi-partisan warfare & the permanent campaign, which is unhealthy (duh!).
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Gazoo on May 30, 2008, 09:54:00 AM
It's going to be interesting to see how the GOP responds to Scott McClellan's book.  I saw part of his interview on Today this morning.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2008/05/29/national/w043328D00.DTL&tsp=1 (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2008/05/29/national/w043328D00.DTL&tsp=1)

I think a few have already said he has an ax to grind and is trying to make some money.

Bob Dole totally went off on him in an e-mail that went public:

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/

Quote
"There are miserable creatures like you in every administration who don’t have the guts to speak up or quit if there are disagreements with the boss or colleagues," Dole wrote in the personal e-mail. "No, your type soaks up the benefits of power, revels in the limelight for years, then quits, and spurred on by greed, cashes in with a scathing critique."

Dole spokesman Michael Marshall confirmed the authenticity of the e-mail, first reported by Politico and obtained by CNN.

Dole, the former Senate Majority Leader and 1996 Republican presidential nominee, also tells McClellan he is likely looking to "clean up" as "the liberal anti-Bush press will promote your belated concerns with wild enthusiasm."
Fun to see that jackass Dole buy into the "liberal press" myth, too.  This infighting will make for a nice precursor to the GOP's time-out period, which is long overdue.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Gazoo on May 30, 2008, 10:18:36 AM
Confirming what many of us already suspected about the media's failed coverage in the run-up to the Iraq war:

http://www.politico.com/blogs/michaelcalderone/0508/CNNs_Yellin_Network_execs_killed_critical_White_House_stories_.html

Quote
On Wednesday night, CNN's Jessica Yellin talked to Anderson Cooper about Scott McClellan's tell-all memoir and agreed with the former press secretary that White House reporters "dropped the ball" during the run-up to war.

But Yellin went much further, revealing that news executives — presumably at ABC News, where she'd worked from July 2003 to August 2007 — actively pushed her not do hard-hitting pieces on the Bush administration. [UPDATE: Yellin now says it was MSNBC execs, not ABC]

"The press corps was under enormous pressure from corporate executives, frankly, to make sure that this was a war presented in a way that was consistent with the patriotic fever in the nation and the president's high approval ratings," Yellin said.

"And my own experience at the White House was that the higher the president's approval ratings, the more pressure I had from news executives — and I was not at this network at the time — but the more pressure I had from news executives to put on positive stories about the president, I think over time...."

But then a shocked Cooper jumped in, asking, "You had pressure from news executives to put on positive stories about the president?"

"Not in that exact.... They wouldn't say it in that way, but they would edit my pieces," Yellin said. "They would push me in different directions. They would turn down stories that were more critical, and try to put on pieces that were more positive. Yes, that was my experience."
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: urth on May 30, 2008, 02:20:52 PM
Need more proof that our Commander-in-Chief is nothing but an overgrown fratboy? Me neither, but here it is anyway:

http://tinyurl.com/6naw9k

Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: urth on May 30, 2008, 02:36:22 PM
Need more proof that our Commander-in-Chief is nothing but an overgrown fratboy? Me neither, but here it is anyway:

http://tinyurl.com/6naw9k



Found another one:

(http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/00674/bu3_674856c.jpg)
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on June 25, 2008, 08:14:00 AM
the Newsweek poll about Bill O'Reilly:

http://www.newsweek.com/id/143058
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Gazoo on July 29, 2008, 08:33:34 AM
Many sources could be cited as to this ugliness; I chose the NYT because it's a succinct summary of still more insidious neocon behavior.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/29/washington/29justice.html

Quote
A longtime prosecutor who drew rave reviews from his supervisors was passed over for an important counterterrorism slot because his wife was active in Democratic politics, and a much-less-experienced lawyer with Republican leanings got the job, the report said.

Another prosecutor was rejected for a job in part because she was thought to be a lesbian. And a Republican lawyer received high marks at his job interview because he was found to be sufficiently conservative on the core issues of “god, guns + gays.”
Yes, this is how much conservatives love America and all Americans!
Title: Re: Ted Stevens indicted
Post by: ggould on July 29, 2008, 10:36:50 PM
Sen. Ted Stevens, the nation's longest-serving Republican senator and a major figure in Alaska politics since before statehood, was indicted Tuesday on seven felony counts of concealing more than a quarter of a million dollars in house renovations and gifts from a powerful oil contractor that lobbied him for government aid.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2008/07/29/national/w100426D35.DTL&hw=ted+stevens&sn=002&sc=866
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on November 18, 2008, 08:41:04 PM
Wow, we haven't posted in this thread since JULY!

And this could easily have gone in the Prop 8 thread, but in case you missed Newt Gingrich's comments the other day...

http://mediamatters.org/items/200811170014

Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: urth on November 18, 2008, 09:34:18 PM
Wow, we haven't posted in this thread since JULY!

Guess all our pent-up frustration about the Right Wingers has been going into the Election thread. Lord knows there's been plenty to rant about!
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Gazoo on November 19, 2008, 12:33:18 AM
Facebook update of the night:

Quote
Dear owner of used Lexus for sale: you might find a buyer a little sooner if you remove the "McCain / Palin" bumper sticker. Your pal, Scott.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: urth on November 26, 2008, 10:01:02 PM
A certain amount of poetic justice to this:

Ann Coulter's jaw wired shut? (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/25/ann-coulters-jaw-wired-sh_n_146248.html)

We can only hope it's not just a rumor.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Gazoo on November 26, 2008, 10:28:41 PM
A certain amount of poetic justice to this:

Ann Coulter's jaw wired shut? (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/25/ann-coulters-jaw-wired-sh_n_146248.html)

We can only hope it's not just a rumor.

Said a HuffPo wag: Her jaw broke when she tried to say "President Barack Obama."
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on February 06, 2009, 07:32:45 AM
Great "special comment" by Olbermann last nite about Cheney's latest fear-mongering (in a nutshell: "you're not Veep anymore, Dick -- GO AWAY!") You can see it on KO's page:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677/

More interestingly, it seemed to me that KO has turned down the bluster in his delivery a notch or 2 -- a good thing, IMHO. Maybe that Ben Affleck parody of him on SNL had an effect?
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Gazoo on February 13, 2009, 10:30:01 PM
Payoff for this story is the kicker:

Bill Maher: "I think they're absolutely following Rush. And that's how clueless that party is. They looked to find the future, and they found radio."

http://www.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/TV/02/13/maher.king/index.html
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on March 15, 2009, 10:32:12 AM
This coulda gone in the Sports thread or the Obama thread, but here goes:

Sports Illustrated's weekly "Pop Culture Grid" feature is where they take 4 athletes and ask them the same 4 or 5 questions -- "My favorite chick flick is _____", etc.  One of this weeks questions was "I'm really sick of hearing about ________". One person said "Paris Hilton". But Braves pitcher James Parr said ... "Barack Obama".  When pressed, he followed up with "I'm not saying he's bad, but he's not the savior. With the economy, he acts like it's America's own fault we're in this."

Er, what? I'm speechless. This is middle america, folks. Be afraid.

Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: SFGuy on March 15, 2009, 04:39:32 PM
This coulda gone in the Sports thread or the Obama thread, but here goes:

Sports Illustrated's weekly "Pop Culture Grid" feature is where they take 4 athletes and ask them the same 4 or 5 questions -- "My favorite chick flick is _____", etc.  One of this weeks questions was "I'm really sick of hearing about ________". One person said "Paris Hilton". But Braves pitcher James Parr said ... "Barack Obama".  When pressed, he followed up with "I'm not saying he's bad, but he's not the savior. With the economy, he acts like it's America's own fault we're in this."

Er, what? I'm speechless. This is middle america, folks. Be afraid.



Why bother?? They're irrelevant. And I am a person who is probably the most conservative (In other words, I'm far from a liberal) of anyone on this board.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on March 23, 2009, 11:35:05 AM
This is bizarre on several levels:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/geoffrey-dunn/palin-pallin-around-with_b_177709.html

I had no idea that Van Susteren and her husband were (a) close to the Palins and (b) Scientologists. Pallin' around with Xenu? Yikes.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: mshray on April 01, 2009, 09:30:17 AM
This is bizarre on several levels:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/geoffrey-dunn/palin-pallin-around-with_b_177709.html

I had no idea that Van Susteren and her husband were (a) close to the Palins and (b) Scientologists. Pallin' around with Xenu? Yikes.

Here's Part II (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/geoffrey-dunn/sarah-greta-scientology_b_180523.html) on the Van Susteren story.  Seems she likely has just as much conflict of interest covering Hillary as she does covering Palin.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on April 09, 2009, 08:21:57 AM
Roger Ebert can't speak any more, but he sure can write. He takes on (and takes down) Bill O'Reilly, brilliantly:

http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090407/COMMENTARY/904079997

(http://www.awardsdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/ebert_billo.jpg)
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: urth on April 09, 2009, 04:11:27 PM
Former KTVU anchor Leslie Griffith is now doing a blog for SFGate, among other things. Worth a read.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/griffith/index?
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on April 09, 2009, 08:45:47 PM
Former KTVU anchor Leslie Griffith is now doing a blog for SFGate, among other things. Worth a read.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/griffith/index?

I'm impressed -- who knew?  But when did she leave KTVU?
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: ggould on April 09, 2009, 10:13:12 PM
Former KTVU anchor Leslie Griffith is now doing a blog for SFGate, among other things. Worth a read.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/griffith/index?

I'm impressed -- who knew?  But when did she leave KTVU?

She's a bit verbose, but this is a heavy topic indeed.  I worry a lot lately about Obama, and this doesn't make it any easier.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: urth on April 10, 2009, 12:49:03 AM
Former KTVU anchor Leslie Griffith is now doing a blog for SFGate, among other things. Worth a read.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/griffith/index?

I'm impressed -- who knew?  But when did she leave KTVU?

Two or three years ago--well before Dennis Richmond retired. She just kind of disappeared, no fanfare or anything.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on April 11, 2009, 10:38:05 AM
This coulda gone in the Sports thread or the Obama thread, but here goes:

Sports Illustrated's weekly "Pop Culture Grid" feature is where they take 4 athletes and ask them the same 4 or 5 questions -- "My favorite chick flick is _____", etc.  One of this weeks questions was "I'm really sick of hearing about ________". One person said "Paris Hilton". But Braves pitcher James Parr said ... "Barack Obama".  When pressed, he followed up with "I'm not saying he's bad, but he's not the savior. With the economy, he acts like it's America's own fault we're in this."

Er, what? I'm speechless. This is middle america, folks. Be afraid.

ah, but this week in SI: equal time!  The question was (fill-in-the-blank), "_________  really needs to lose the attitude".  Marvin Williams of the Hawks and James Loney of the Dodgers answered "Dick Cheney" and "Bill O'Reilly", respectively.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on April 24, 2009, 03:45:55 PM
Great rant from Bill Maher re: the GOP, as an op-ed in the LA Times:

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-maher24-2009apr24,0,927819.story

I'm guessing this may also appear as part of "New Rules" on his show tonight.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on May 22, 2009, 03:25:07 PM
Gavin N is returning a $25G donation from Russell Weiner, founder of Rockstar energy drinks -- Russell is the son of Michael Weiner, aka Michael Savage. (yeah, young Russ used daddy's connections in the "herbal supplement" biz to market a crappy-tasting RedBull clone)

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/nov05election/detail?entry_id=40574&tsp=1
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: urth on May 27, 2009, 03:51:14 PM
Helen Thomas lets Cheney have both barrels:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/nov05election/detail?entry_id=40747
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on May 27, 2009, 08:25:29 PM
Helen Thomas lets Cheney have both barrels:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/nov05election/detail?entry_id=40747

You GO Helen!

And BTW, in re: the right-wing's apoplectic nut-jobbery about Sotomayor (which is already at fever pitch)... Having Karl Rove question your intellect is kinda like having Emo Phillips question your muscle tone.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on June 03, 2009, 01:25:15 PM
if you thought Cheney supporting gay marriage was bizarre... now Limbaugh says he might support Sotomayor!  Er...

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/06/03/limbaugh-ready-to-support-sotomayor/

So he thinks that because she's an Hispanic Catholic she might be more "pro-life" than she lets on? Is this a clever fake on Rush's part, to give the Left some, as Meryl Streep would say, "Dooooouuuuubt!"
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Gazoo on June 04, 2009, 10:33:17 AM
Mike, you'll LOVE this: "Betty Bowers Explains Traditional Marriage."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFkeKKszXTw
Title: Hannity interviews Limbaugh
Post by: ggould on June 04, 2009, 11:36:46 AM
I came across this last night, and tried to watch, out of educational curiosity, but it was too much.  It's amazing to hear something like
Quote from: Right Wing Nutjobs
If Al-Qaeda wants to destroy America, they better hurry up before Obama beats them to it!
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on June 04, 2009, 11:46:46 AM
Mike, you'll LOVE this: "Betty Bowers Explains Traditional Marriage."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFkeKKszXTw

brilliant stuff!
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: mshray on June 05, 2009, 03:09:48 PM
Mike, you'll LOVE this: "Betty Bowers Explains Traditional Marriage."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFkeKKszXTw

brilliant stuff!

I was looking for Genesis Ch 38, but she didn't go there.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on June 10, 2009, 12:54:44 PM
Yikes:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2009/06/10/national/a102511D93.DTL&tsp=1
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Gazoo on June 10, 2009, 08:42:38 PM
Yikes:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2009/06/10/national/a102511D93.DTL&tsp=1

The rabid right-wingers in the media have so much blood on their hands, they can't comb their hair without looking like Carrie.  They are horribly far overdue in disavowing and rebuking the violence of the white-supremacist movements.

Meantime, I have to say that I really like how Colbert looks with his head newly shorn.  Wow.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on June 11, 2009, 07:42:39 AM
I have to say that I really like how Colbert looks with his head newly shorn.  Wow.

Your taste in men will baffle me to the end.  I *worship* Colbert as an artist -- he's a genius at the top of his game right now -- but I'd never call him attractive or sexy.  I can't quite reconcile how you can dig him AND dorky Mraz AND someone as steaming hot as Pat Burrell. For me those are opposite ends of the spectrum entirely.  C'est la vie!
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on June 11, 2009, 07:49:10 AM
More crazy (it's been quite a week for nutjobs): Jon Voight again

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/6/10/740823/-Jon-Voight-and-GOP-mascot-politics
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on June 15, 2009, 12:47:27 PM
S. Carolina GOP guy likens Michelle O to a gorilla:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2009/06/14/2009-06-14_pol_gorilla_is_related_to_first_lady.html

And in other nutjob news, right-wingers will be holding a "fire David letterman" rally in NYC tomorrow -- I nominate Gaz to go and yell rude things at the 3 or 4 dickwads who show up.

http://www.firedavidletterman.com/
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on June 16, 2009, 08:51:30 AM
Palin accepts Letterman's apology:

Quote
The Alaska governor, in a statement issued Tuesday, said the apology was accepted "on behalf of all young women, like my daughters, who hope men who `joke' about public displays of sexual exploitation of girls will soon evolve."


wait... Sarah Palin believes in EVOLUTION??
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Tinka Cat on June 16, 2009, 08:53:34 AM
Palin accepts Letterman's apology:

Quote
The Alaska governor, in a statement issued Tuesday, said the apology was accepted "on behalf of all young women, like my daughters, who hope men who `joke' about public displays of sexual exploitation of girls will soon evolve."

wait... Sarah Palin believes in EVOLUTION??

HA!  good one. I didn't hear or see the Letterman joke (I read it), and I've always liked Dave, but that was not his finest moment.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Gazoo on June 16, 2009, 10:26:44 AM
Palin accepts Letterman's apology:

Quote
The Alaska governor, in a statement issued Tuesday, said the apology was accepted "on behalf of all young women, like my daughters, who hope men who `joke' about public displays of sexual exploitation of girls will soon evolve."


wait... Sarah Palin believes in EVOLUTION??


No one for a second thought Dave actually meant anything of the sort; this was just a chance for some bitter people to score some points against someone they don't like.  Which, to their "credit," they took full, full advantage of.

Further proof that today's Republican party is not capable of being FOR anything at all, only AGAINST things.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Tinka Cat on June 16, 2009, 10:33:32 AM
Palin accepts Letterman's apology:

Quote
The Alaska governor, in a statement issued Tuesday, said the apology was accepted "on behalf of all young women, like my daughters, who hope men who `joke' about public displays of sexual exploitation of girls will soon evolve."

wait... Sarah Palin believes in EVOLUTION??

No one for a second thought Dave actually meant anything of the sort; this was just a chance for some bitter people to score some points against someone they don't like.  Which, to their "credit," they took full, full advantage of.

Further proof that today's Republican party is not capable of being FOR anything at all, only AGAINST things.

Since Dave felt the need to apologize, I think he felt he went over the line.  I'm no Palin fan, but whomever wrote the joke should have vetted which daughter was there.  it was sloppy..
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on June 24, 2009, 12:19:35 PM
Now it can be told: the recently-missing Governor Sanford of SC wasn't on the Appalachian Trail after all. He was on the trail of some tail!

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2009/06/22/national/a131625D73.DTL

ya can't make this stuff up! the family-values crowd are droppin' like flies! ROTFL!
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Tinka Cat on June 24, 2009, 12:32:19 PM
Now it can be told: the recently-missing Governor Sanford of SC wasn't on the Appalachian Trail after all. He was on the trail of some tail!

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2009/06/22/national/a131625D73.DTL

ya can't make this stuff up! the family-values crowd are droppin' like flies! ROTFL!

seems like he prided himself on his fiscal conservatism --- too bad he wasn't more conservative in the "keep it in your pants" dept.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on June 24, 2009, 12:46:40 PM
Now it can be told: the recently-missing Governor Sanford of SC wasn't on the Appalachian Trail after all. He was on the trail of some tail!

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2009/06/22/national/a131625D73.DTL

ya can't make this stuff up! the family-values crowd are droppin' like flies! ROTFL!

seems like he prided himself on his fiscal conservatism --- too bad he wasn't more conservative in the "keep it in your pants" dept.

he said he wanted to trim the budget, but he was really budgeting for some, er, trim.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on June 24, 2009, 03:10:36 PM
and in re: Sanford... there's also this, yet again:

http://blog.indecisionforever.com/2009/06/24/fox-news-reports-on-that-cheating-democrat-mark-sanford/
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on June 25, 2009, 08:25:17 AM
I really think AL should do a Mark Sanford Set today. Lots of cheatin' songs, "Carolina in My Mind", and of course the Sanford-Townsend band.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: urth on June 25, 2009, 08:50:35 AM
I really think AL should do a Mark Sanford Set today. Lots of cheatin' songs, "Carolina in My Mind", and of course the Sanford-Townsend band.

Clips from Sanford and Son, and end the set with Don't Cry For Me, Argentina.  ;)
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on June 25, 2009, 08:53:44 AM

Clips from Sanford and Son

Be great if his mistress was named Elizabeth -- "I'm comin' Elizabeth!" would take on a whole new meaning.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on June 25, 2009, 10:12:30 AM
This coulda gone in the Sports thread or the Obama thread, but here goes:

Sports Illustrated's weekly "Pop Culture Grid" feature is where they take 4 athletes and ask them the same 4 or 5 questions -- "My favorite chick flick is _____", etc.  One of this weeks questions was "I'm really sick of hearing about ________". One person said "Paris Hilton". But Braves pitcher James Parr said ... "Barack Obama".  When pressed, he followed up with "I'm not saying he's bad, but he's not the savior. With the economy, he acts like it's America's own fault we're in this."

Er, what? I'm speechless. This is middle america, folks. Be afraid.

ah, but this week in SI: equal time!  The question was (fill-in-the-blank), "_________  really needs to lose the attitude".  Marvin Williams of the Hawks and James Loney of the Dodgers answered "Dick Cheney" and "Bill O'Reilly", respectively.

revisiting this ballplayers-with-opinions post for the following:

I've been thinking lately that the Giants' Nate Schierholtz (sp?) is kinda hot, esp when he doesn't shave

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3397/3266136866_0047f827f1.jpg)

but in this week's "Pop Culture Grid", one question was fill-in-the-blank: "______________ needs a hug". Nate's answer was... "George W Bush".
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Gazoo on June 25, 2009, 01:21:50 PM
but in this week's "Pop Culture Grid", one question was fill-in-the-blank: "______________ needs a hug". Nate's answer was... "George W Bush".

Well, saying he needs a hug isn't necessarily a vote for him ...  I think George and Dick and the whole sorry lot all need hugs.  And drugs.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on June 25, 2009, 01:39:21 PM
but in this week's "Pop Culture Grid", one question was fill-in-the-blank: "______________ needs a hug". Nate's answer was... "George W Bush".

Well, saying he needs a hug isn't necessarily a vote for him ...  I think George and Dick and the whole sorry lot all need hugs.  And drugs.

I'd rather they meet up with some thugs.
Title: Health Care Debate (so-called)
Post by: ggould on June 25, 2009, 03:50:18 PM
I got real angry last night watching the ABC town hall w/Obama.  They packed the house with people asking stupid questions.  Obama must've felt like cussing them out!  Questions about how "the American people don't want a bureaucrat between them and their doctor", but they already have one!  Fucking insurance bureaucrat!
Title: Re: Health Care Debate (so-called)
Post by: Gazoo on June 25, 2009, 04:09:06 PM
I got real angry last night watching the ABC town hall w/Obama.  They packed the house with people asking stupid questions.  Obama must've felt like cussing them out!  Questions about how "the American people don't want a bureaucrat between them and their doctor", but they already have one!  Fucking insurance bureaucrat!

THANK YOU, Geoff.  You took the words out of my mouth.

Most Americans seem to want a single-payer option - except the lobbyists and the senators and the fucking AMA.
Title: Re: Health Care Debate (so-called)
Post by: mshray on June 25, 2009, 11:32:31 PM
I got real angry last night watching the ABC town hall w/Obama.  They packed the house with people asking stupid questions.  Obama must've felt like cussing them out!  Questions about how "the American people don't want a bureaucrat between them and their doctor", but they already have one!  Fucking insurance bureaucrat!

THANK YOU, Geoff.  You took the words out of my mouth.

Most Americans seem to want a single-payer option - except the lobbyists and the senators and the fucking AMA.

My cousin Jerome (he of the Madonna incident, also a Radiologist if you didn't recall) visited us last week & he unreservedly condmened the AMA.  He quit in disgust last year & told us that less than 25% of MD's are members these days, and practically none under 40.  Says it is literally just another old boys club.  He totally supports a single payer system & is getting really impatient with Obama for accepting half-measures.  Among the many points he very cogently made is this:  Over 70% of all personal bankruptcies are caused by health care costs (subprime loans are not evne close), and 70% of those people HAD health insurance and STILL went bankrupt!  Truly frightening statistic.

Also, he finally had his (first) day in court, and the judge summarily dismissed the charges against him.  Next he plans to sue.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on June 30, 2009, 11:54:11 AM
Minnesota Supes rule Franken the winner. OK, Norm, you can give up now.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2009/06/30/national/a111549D97.DTL
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: ggould on June 30, 2009, 05:36:17 PM
Minnesota Supes rule Franken the winner. OK, Norm, you can give up now.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2009/06/30/national/a111549D97.DTL
this makes me happy, almost as happy as I would feel if I had shaved 4 strokes off my game today!
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: urth on July 03, 2009, 02:08:42 PM
Sarah Palin is resigning as governor of Alaska, ostensibly to focus on a run for the presidency in 2012.:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2009/07/03/national/a125257D32.DTL&tsp=1

And a few well chosen words of analysis from HuffPo:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kimberly-krautter/sarah-palin----what-a-sch_b_225530.html

Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: ggould on July 03, 2009, 03:13:33 PM
Sarah Palin is resigning as governor of Alaska, ostensibly to focus on a run for the presidency in 2012.:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2009/07/03/national/a125257D32.DTL&tsp=1

And a few well chosen words of analysis from HuffPo:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kimberly-krautter/sarah-palin----what-a-sch_b_225530.html



what a freakin' bombshell!  People can't figure out what the hell she's doing!
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on July 03, 2009, 08:15:07 PM
Sarah Palin is resigning as governor of Alaska, ostensibly to focus on a run for the presidency in 2012.:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2009/07/03/national/a125257D32.DTL&tsp=1

And a few well chosen words of analysis from HuffPo:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kimberly-krautter/sarah-palin----what-a-sch_b_225530.html

what a freakin' bombshell!  People can't figure out what the hell she's doing!

Wow. CNN just replayed the entire 6-minute speech. Her spokesperson (who is on vacation in upstate NY!) is on the phone with Anderson Cooper and she sounds as confused as everone else.  It *would* happen on a holiday without OlberMaddow.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Tinka Cat on July 03, 2009, 09:21:34 PM
Sarah Palin ....
what a freakin' bombshell! 

yeah, she's hot.   :-*
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: urth on July 03, 2009, 09:54:24 PM
Sarah Palin is resigning as governor of Alaska, ostensibly to focus on a run for the presidency in 2012.:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2009/07/03/national/a125257D32.DTL&tsp=1

And a few well chosen words of analysis from HuffPo:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kimberly-krautter/sarah-palin----what-a-sch_b_225530.html

what a freakin' bombshell!  People can't figure out what the hell she's doing!

Wow. CNN just replayed the entire 6-minute speech. Her spokesperson (who is on vacation in upstate NY!) is on the phone with Anderson Cooper and she sounds as confused as everone else.  It *would* happen on a holiday without OlberMaddow.

Maher would have had a field day with this, too.

Lots of conjecture that there's a big scandal that's going to break, and this was preemptive damage control:
http://www.bradblog.com/?p=7280

Apparently Ted Stevens wasn't the only Alaska politico who got his house paid for by some of his "buddies."
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Gazoo on July 04, 2009, 05:46:04 PM
I'm on the e-mailing list of Ned Sublette, a scholar of Cuba and New Orleans and the musics and cultures therein (and a hell of a snappy dresser).  He sent us this, which I'm sure he would appreciate my posting here.

Quote
Happy Fourth of July.

My usual stance with right-wing politicians is the same as with computer
viruses -- to give them no more time than necessary to deal with the threat
they pose and to quarantine them as much as possible.

But what Roland Barthes would have called the pleasure of this text has to
be savored in full to draw out its pure nuttiness.  It's hard to know what
to appreciate more: the all-caps prepositions; the sentence fragments that
begin the fifth and sixth paragraphs, the run-on sentences, the frequent
exclamation points!, the quotation from her parents' refrigerator magnet,
the basketball analogy, the proposed logic of quitting so as not to be a
quitter, or the grammatically incorrect final sentence framing the
misattributed punchline, which was actually said not by General Douglas
MacArthur but by General Oliver P. Smith.  I especially like the capital O
of "Outside" in "Outside special interests," which reminds us that the world
consists of two parts: Alaska, and Outside.

But what I most enjoy is the authenticity of this text; there can
be no question that Governor You Betcha wrote it herself <wink>.

This is truly the best work she's done since that November 20 live TV
interview at an abbatoir while a turkey was being gruesomely
slaughtered in the background. (sanitized version at
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYxn2vlhtWo )

None of which means i don't take this person seriously.  With Reagan we
learned definitively that malevolent clowns can indeed wind up in high
places.

I'll offer a wild guess that she's had a lucrative offer from Fox News that
will allow her to continue to build her brand while improving her bottom
line.

Palin's successor, lieutenant governor Sean Parnell, is to be inaugurated on
July 26th, perhaps in honor of the assault on the Moncada garrison in
Santiago de Cuba on that date in 1953, or perhaps not.

Enjoy the fireworks and throw one on the grill for me.

http://www.gov.state.ak.us/exec-column.php

Office of Alaska Governor Sarah Palin
Executive Column
Palin Announces No Second Term
No Lame Duck Session Either

Hi Alaska, I appreciate speaking directly to you, the people I serve, as
your Governor.

People who know me know that besides faith and family, nothing's more
important to me than our beloved Alaska. Serving her people is the greatest
honor I could imagine.

I want Alaskans to grasp what can be in store for our state. We were
purchased as a territory because a member of President Abe Lincoln's
cabinet, William Seward, providentially saw in this great land, vast riches,
beauty, strategic placement on the globe, and opportunity. He boldly looked
"North to the Future". But he endured such ridicule and mocking for his
vision for Alaska, remember the adversaries scoffed, calling this "Seward's
Folly". Seward withstood such disdain as he chose the uncomfortable,
unconventional, but right path to secure Alaska, so Alaska could help secure
the United States.

People who know me know that besides faith and family, nothing's more
important to me than our beloved Alaska.

Alaska’s mission – to contribute to America. We’re strategic in the world as
the air crossroads of the world, as a gatekeeper of the continent. Bold
visionaries knew this - Alaska would be part of America's great destiny.

Our destiny to be reached by responsibly developing our natural resources.
This land, blessed with clean air, water, wildlife, minerals, and oil and
gas. It's energy! God gave us energy.

So to serve the state is a humbling responsibility, because I know in my
soul that Alaska is of such import, for America’s security, in our very
volatile world. And you know me by now, I promised even four years ago to
show my independence… no more conventional “politics as usual”.

And we are doing well! My administration's accomplishments speak for
themselves. We work tirelessly for Alaskans.

We aggressively and responsibly develop our resources because they were
created to be used to better our world... to help people... and we protect
the environment and Alaskans (the resource owners) foremost with our
policies.

Here’s some of the things we’ve done:

We created a petroleum integrity office to oversee safe development. We held
the line for Alaskans on Point Thomson – and finally for the first time in
decades – they’re drilling for oil and gas.

We have AGIA, the gasline project – a massive bi-partisan victory (the vote
was 58 to 1!) – also succeeding as intended - protecting Alaskans as our
clean natural gas will flow to energize us, and America, through a
competitive, pro-private sector project. This is the largest private sector
energy project, ever. This is energy independence.

And ACES – another bipartisan effort – is working as intended and industry
is publicly acknowledging its success. Our new oil and gas “clear and
equitable formula” is so Alaskans will no longer be taken advantage of. ACES
incentivizes new exploration and development and jobs that were previously
not going to happen with a monopolized North Slope oil basin.

We cleaned up previously accepted unethical actions; we ushered in
bi-partisan Ethics Reform.

We also slowed the rate of government growth, we worked with the Legislature
to save billions of dollars for the future, and I made no lobbyist friends
with my hundreds of millions of dollars in budget vetoes... but living
beyond our means today is irresponsible for tomorrow.

We took government out of the dairy business and put it back into
private-sector hands – where it should be.

We provided unprecedented support for education initiatives, and with the
right leadership, finally filled long-vacant public safety positions. We
built a sub-Cabinet on Climate Change and took heat from Outside special
interests for our biologically-sound wildlife management for abundance.

We broke ground on the new prison.

And we made common sense conservative choices to eliminate personal luxuries
like the jet, the chef, the junkets... the entourage.

And the Lt. Governor and I said "no" to our pay raises.

So much success in this first term – and with this success I am proud to
take credit... for hiring the right people! Our goal was to achieve a
gasline project, more fair oil and gas valuation, and ethics reform in four
years. We did it in two. It’s because of the people… good public servants
surrounding the Governor's office, with servants' hearts and astounding work
ethic... they are Alaska's success!

We are doing well! I wish you'd hear more from the media of your state's
progress and how we tackle Outside interests - daily - special interests
that would stymie our state. Even those debt-ridden stimulus dollars that
would force the heavy hand of federal government into our communities with
an “all-knowing attitude” – I have taken the slings and arrows with that
unpopular move to veto because I know being right is better than being
popular. Some of those dollars would harm Alaska and harm America – I
resisted those dollars because of the obscene national debt we’re forcing
our children to pay, because of today’s Big Government spending; it’s
immoral and doesn’t even make economic sense!

Another accomplishment – our Law Department protected states’ rights – two
huge U.S. Supreme Court reversals came down against that liberal Ninth
Circuit, deciding in our state’s favor over the last two weeks. We’re
protectors of our Constitution – federalists protect states’ rights as
mandated in 10th amendment.

But you don’t hear much of the good stuff in the press anymore, do you?

Some say things changed for me on August 29th last year – the day John
McCain tapped me to be his running-mate – I say others changed.

Let me speak to that for a minute.

Political operatives descended on Alaska last August, digging for dirt. The
ethics law I championed became their weapon of choice. Over the past nine
months I've been accused of all sorts of frivolous ethics violations – such
as holding a fish in a photograph, wearing a jacket with a logo on it, and
answering reporters’ questions.

Every one – all 15 of the ethics complaints have been dismissed. We’ve won!
But it hasn't been cheap - the State has wasted thousands of hours of your
time and shelled out some two million of your dollars to respond to
“opposition research” – that’s money not going to fund teachers or
troopers – or safer roads. And this political absurdity, the “politics of
personal destruction” … Todd and I are looking at more than half a million
dollars in legal bills in order to set the record straight. And what about
the people who offer up these silly accusations? It doesn’t cost them a dime
so they’re not going to stop draining public resources – spending other
peoples’ money in their game.

It’s pretty insane – my staff and I spend most of our day dealing with this
instead of progressing our state now. I know I promised no more “politics as
usual,” but this isn’t what anyone had in mind for Alaska.

If I have learned one thing: life is about choices!

And one chooses how to react to circumstances. You can choose to engage in
things that tear down, or build up. I choose to work very hard on a path for
fruitfulness and productivity. I choose not to tear down and waste precious
time; but to build up this state and our country, and her industrious,
generous, patriotic, free people!

Life is too short to compromise time and resources... it may be tempting and
more comfortable to just keep your head down, plod along, and appease those
who demand: "Sit down and shut up", but that's the worthless, easy path;
that's a quitter's way out. And a problem in our country today is apathy. It
would be apathetic to just hunker down and “go with the flow”.

Nah, only dead fish "go with the flow".

No. Productive, fulfilled people determine where to put their efforts,
choosing to wisely utilize precious time... to build up.

And there is such a need to build up and fight for our state and our
country. I choose to fight for it! And I'll work hard for others who still
believe in free enterprise and smaller government; strong national security
for our country and support for our troops; energy independence; and for
those who will protect freedom and equality and life... I'll work for and
campaign for those proud to be American, and those who are inspired by our
ideals and won't deride them.

I will support others who seek to serve, in or out of office, for the right
reasons, and I don't care what party they're in or no party at all. Inside
Alaska – or Outside Alaska.

But I won’t do it from the Governor’s desk.

I've never believed that I, nor anyone else, needs a title to do this - to
make a difference... to help people. So I choose, for my State and my
family, more "freedom" to progress, all the way around... so that Alaska may
progress... I will not seek re-election as Governor.

And so as I thought about this announcement that I wouldn’t run for
re-election and what it means for Alaska, I thought about how much fun some
governors have as lame ducks… travel around the state, to the Lower 48
(maybe), overseas on international trade – as so many politicians do. And
then I thought – that’s what’s wrong – many just accept that lame duck
status, hit the road, draw the paycheck, and “milk it”. I’m not putting
Alaska through that – I promised efficiencies and effectiveness! That’s not
how I am wired. I am not wired to operate under the same old “politics as
usual.” I promised that four years ago – and I meant it.

It’s not what is best for Alaska.

I am determined to take the right path for Alaska even though it is
unconventional and not so comfortable.

With this announcement that I am not seeking re-election… I’ve determined it’s
best to transfer the authority of governor to Lieutenant Governor Parnell;
and I am willing to do so, so that this administration – with its positive
agenda, its accomplishments, and its successful road to an incredible
future – can continue without interruption and with great administrative and
legislative success.

My choice is to take a stand and effect change – not hit our heads against
the wall and watch valuable state time and money, millions of your dollars,
go down the drain in this new environment. Rather, we know we can effect
positive change outside government at this moment in time, on another scale,
and actually make a difference for our priorities – and so we will, for
Alaskans and for Americans.

Let me go back to a comfortable analogy for me – sports… basketball. I use
it because you’re naïve if you don’t see the national full-court press
picking away right now: A good point guard drives through a full court
press, protecting the ball, keeping her eye on the basket… and she knows
exactly when to pass the ball so that the team can win. And I’m doing that –
keeping our eye on the ball that represents sound priorities – smaller
government, energy independence, national security, freedom! And I know when
it’s time to pass the ball – for victory.

I have given my reasons candidly and truthfully… and my last day won’t be
for another few weeks so the transition will be very smooth. In fact, we
will look to swear Sean in – in Fairbanks at the conclusion of our Governor’s
picnics.

I do not want to disappoint anyone with my decision; all I can ask is that
you trust me with this decision – but it’s no more “politics as usual”.

Some Alaskans don’t mind wasting public dollars and state time. I do. I
cannot stand here as your Governor and allow millions upon millions of our
dollars go to waste just so I can hold the title of Governor. And my
children won’t allow it either.

Some will question the timing. Let’s just say, this decision has been in the
works for awhile…

In fact, this decision comes after much consideration, and finally polling
the most important people in my life - my children (where the count was
unanimous... well, in response to asking: "Want me to make a positive
difference and fight for ALL our children's future from outside the
Governor's office?" It was four "yes's" and one "hell yeah!" The "hell yeah"
sealed it - and someday I'll talk about the details of that... I think much
of it had to do with the kids seeing their baby brother Trig mocked by some
pretty mean-spirited adults recently.) Um, by the way, sure wish folks could
ever, ever understand that we all could learn so much from someone like
Trig - I know he needs me, but I need him even more... what a child can
offer to set priorities right – that time is precious... the world needs
more "Trigs", not fewer.

My decision was also fortified during this most recent trip to Kosovo and
Landstuhl, to visit our wounded soldiers overseas, those who sacrifice
themselves in war for our freedom and security… we can ALL learn from our
selfless Troops… they’re bold, they don’t give up, they take a stand and
know that life is short so they choose to not waste time. They choose to be
productive and to serve something greater than self... and to build up their
families, their states, our country. These Troops and their important
missions – those are truly the worthy causes in this world and should be the
public priority with time and resources and not this local / superficial
wasteful political bloodsport.

May we all learn from them!

*((Gotta put First Things First))*

First things first: as Governor, I love my job and I love Alaska. It hurts
to make this choice but I am doing what’s best for Alaska. I’ve explained
why… though I think of the saying on my parents’ refrigerator that says “Don’t
explain: your friends don’t need it and your enemies won’t believe you
anyway.”

But I have given my reasons… no more “politics as usual” and I am taking my
fight for what’s right – for Alaska – in a new direction.

Now, despite this, I don’t want any Alaskan dissuaded from entering politics
after seeing this real “climate change” that began in August… no, we need
hardworking, average Americans fighting for what’s right! And I will support
you because we need you and you can effect change, and I can too on the
outside.

We need those who will respect our Constitution where government’s supposed
to serve from the bottom up, not move toward this top down big government
take-over… but rather, will be protectors of individual rights - who also
have enough common sense to acknowledge when conditions have drastically
changed and are willing to call an audible and pass the ball when it’s time
so the team can win! And that is what I’m doing!

Remember Alaska… America is now, more than ever, looking North to the
Future. It'll be good. So God bless you, and from me and my family - to all
Alaska - you have my heart.

And we will be in the capable hands of our Lieutenant Governor, Sean
Parnell. And Lieutenant General Craig Campbell will assume the role of
Lieutenant Governor. And it is my promise to you that I will always be
standing by, ready to assist. We have a good, positive agenda for Alaska.

In the words of General MacArthur said, “We are not retreating. We are
advancing in another direction.”

###

_______________________________________________
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: mshray on July 06, 2009, 10:41:02 AM
Paul Begala on HuffPost has a good take (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/paul-begala/sarah-palin-turns-pro_b_225633.html) as well.

I wish Hunter S. Thompson had lived to see this.

As Hunter said, "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." Sarah Palin makes Mark Foley, the congressman who sent filthy emails to pages look almost normal. She makes David Vitter, the senator who was hanging out with hookers, look almost boring. She makes Larry Craig, caught hitting on a cop in a men's room, look almost stable. She makes John Ensign, the senator who was having an affair with a staffer, look almost humdrum (and compared to the rest of the GOP whack-jobs, he is). And she makes Mark Sanford, the governor with the Latin lover, look positively predictable.


 
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Gazoo on July 06, 2009, 09:59:33 PM
I'm conflating "right wing" with "homophobic asshole" here, but oh well.  This is another example that in America, your level of justice is based on your socioeconomic status.  A vicious hate crime in P-Town:

http://www.capecodonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090526/NEWS11/90526014/-1/NEWSMAP

A judge in Orleans District Court has rejected a prosecutor’s request for a $10,000 cash bail for Eric Patten, the 20 year old charged with assaulting two young gay women in Provincetown over the weekend.

Instead Judge Brian Merrick decided to maintain the existing $1,000 bail requirement, after Patten’s attorney used the professional status of his parents as a partial assurance for future court appearances.

Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on July 09, 2009, 09:15:31 AM
Nice analysis of the GOP's Palin problem from Mike Murphy (a Repub strategist and hardly a liberal):

http://www.nydailynews.com/opinions/2009/07/09/2009-07-09_to_go_forward_gop_must_snap_out_of_its_sarah_palin_spell.html
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Gazoo on July 09, 2009, 01:39:43 PM
Nice analysis of the GOP's Palin problem from Mike Murphy (a Repub strategist and hardly a liberal):

http://www.nydailynews.com/opinions/2009/07/09/2009-07-09_to_go_forward_gop_must_snap_out_of_its_sarah_palin_spell.html

Murphy was one of our columnists for a very short while.  He didn't contribute much of value, and outright alienated the regulars at Time's political blog, "Swampland," by not engaging with the community in responses.  But he's correct here (though he misuses the phrase "begs the question," a phrase that should just be retired anyway).  I personally don't think Palin's aiming for the White House - I think she's aiming for a slot on Fox TV.  That would be a better fit for her charm, charisma, and sniping smallness.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: mshray on July 10, 2009, 10:45:13 AM
Palin's grandbaby daddy sez it's all about the cash.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090710/ap_on_re_us/us_palin_resignation (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090710/ap_on_re_us/us_palin_resignation)
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: ggould on July 13, 2009, 09:50:25 PM
This is starting to sound like The Onion:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/07/13/brownback-and-landrieu-in_n_230762.html

Mermaids?
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: mshray on July 17, 2009, 08:19:59 AM
American Conservative Union busted (http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20090717/pl_politico/25072) for "pay for play" extortion.

This probably happens on both sides of the aisle, but I hope progressives aren't quite so cynical in their methods.

Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on July 17, 2009, 12:47:09 PM
Good GAWD how I hate Peggy Noonan...

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124777884829553723.html
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on July 22, 2009, 07:55:48 AM
If you are not hip to these crazy "birther" conspiracy-theorists yet -- VERY scary stuff:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNjLpWDWCaE
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: mshray on July 22, 2009, 03:10:47 PM
If you are not hip to these crazy "birther" conspiracy-theorists yet -- VERY scary stuff:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNjLpWDWCaE

the sound quality was poor, all I could make outfor sure is something about being a citizen of Kenya...are they trying to disqualify Obama from being president?
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on July 22, 2009, 03:18:30 PM
If you are not hip to these crazy "birther" conspiracy-theorists yet -- VERY scary stuff:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNjLpWDWCaE

the sound quality was poor, all I could make outfor sure is something about being a citizen of Kenya...are they trying to disqualify Obama from being president?

Yes, these people are convinced he's not "really" prez because he wasn't born in the USA. And the way that woman is screaming... yikes. Sound quality sounded pretty clear to me.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on July 24, 2009, 08:44:47 AM
Mark Morford does it again:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2009/07/24/notes072409.DTL
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: mshray on July 24, 2009, 09:40:48 PM

Mark Morford does it again:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2009/07/24/notes072409.DTL

that was one of his best.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: urth on July 27, 2009, 02:39:21 PM
Palin to media: "In honor of the American soldier, ya quit makin' things up."

World to Palin: "You first."
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on July 27, 2009, 03:53:28 PM
Palin to media: "In honor of the American soldier, ya quit makin' things up."

World to Palin: "You first."

how can we miss her if she won't go away?
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Gazoo on July 27, 2009, 08:48:04 PM
Palin to media: "In honor of the American soldier, ya quit makin' things up."

World to Palin: "You first."

how can we miss her if she won't go away?

I think her '12 running mate should be Carrie Prejean.  They can run under the Real Americans And Such platform.  Also.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: urth on July 28, 2009, 11:46:26 AM
Palin's speech as it was meant to be heard.

http://www.tonightshowwithconanobrien.com/video/clips/shatner-does-palin-072709/1139665/
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on July 28, 2009, 12:15:26 PM
Palin's speech as it was meant to be heard.

http://www.tonightshowwithconanobrien.com/video/clips/shatner-does-palin-072709/1139665/

Genius!
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: mshray on July 29, 2009, 03:12:19 PM
Palin's speech as it was meant to be heard.

http://www.tonightshowwithconanobrien.com/video/clips/shatner-does-palin-072709/1139665/

Genius!

I laughed so hard I cried.  really.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: mshray on July 30, 2009, 11:09:22 AM
Shatner came back and read Palin's latest Tweets (http://www.imdb.com/video/hulu/vi298779161/).  Even funnier!

Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: ggould on August 03, 2009, 10:08:08 PM
Olbermann's special comment is all over Facebook tonight:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32276889/ns/msnbc_tv-countdown_with_keith_olbermann
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on August 07, 2009, 02:39:39 PM
Another great Maher rant:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bill-maher/new-rule-smart-president_b_253996.html
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on August 10, 2009, 08:15:40 AM
Got an email over the weekend from an old acquaintance. It's an all-too-common story these days: he had a slipped disc a few years back, and had to shut down his business (consulting/training; he was a one-man-operation) and get a job as a security guard in order to have medical benefits until he healed.  Once he was better, the economy was in the toilet and he couldn't find work in his old profession. So he's hanging on, doing security (working graveyard shifts) and is practically broke.

Here's the kicker: the guy's a rabid Republican. He sent me a "please don't vote for Obama" email a week before the election. He currently signs his emails with "End the Nightmare! Sarah Palin for President!" No, he's not kidding. 

Never mind the delicious irony of a guy who hates the very man who's trying to reform the system that's beaten him to the ground.  He's not some yahoo from a small town in the south. He's a smart guy. This is what we're up against, folks. Those town halls are the tip of a very ugly iceberg.   
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on August 11, 2009, 08:20:23 AM
Great Jon Carroll column in praise of Rachel Maddow. As if I didn't love her already, she hates Coldplay! Swoon!

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/08/11/DDRF195JTU.DTL
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on August 19, 2009, 07:57:05 AM
Barney Frank putting a crazy, anti-healthcare-reform shit-head in her place:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYlZiWK2Iy8&feature=player_embedded
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: SFGuy on August 19, 2009, 11:34:45 PM
This is what I hate, hypocrisy.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090820/ap_on_re_us/us_ensign_affair
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on August 20, 2009, 07:42:27 AM
This is what I hate, hypocrisy.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090820/ap_on_re_us/us_ensign_affair

on this we agree!  Why can't these guys cheat on their wives with hookers like normal people do?
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Tinka Cat on August 21, 2009, 06:19:00 AM
"Former Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge says pressure from fellow Cabinet members to raise the nation's terror alert level just before the 2004 presidential election helped convince him it was time to quit working for President George W. Bush."

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2009/08/20/national/w145557D14.DTL&tsp=1

it seemed obvious at the time, didn't it?
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on August 21, 2009, 07:30:03 AM
"Former Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge says pressure from fellow Cabinet members to raise the nation's terror alert level just before the 2004 presidential election helped convince him it was time to quit working for President George W. Bush."

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2009/08/20/national/w145557D14.DTL&tsp=1

it seemed obvious at the time, didn't it?

indeed, talk about a big "DUH!"  Olbermann did an "I wish I wasn't saying 'I told you so', but... 'I told you so'!" rant about it.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on August 21, 2009, 04:00:51 PM
Food for thought, from a poster on a political thread at hollywood-elsewhere.com:

Quote
What we are starting to see is the germination of Fascism in this country. The Elites feel they need to do whatever they can to hold on to their power, and what better way than to rile up the working class, the downtrodden, the gun nuts, the religious fringe. This has nothing to do with health care. Once this whole health care thing blows over it will be something else, and on and on, one thing after the next, until the thugs literally take to the streets, armed, and try and take back control of this country. This is all about religion and race and returning this nation to some so-called idyllic myth that only exists in movies and novels, not that the cretins can tell the difference. As a white, middle-class Jewish man, the many, many hairs on the back of my neck are starting to tingle a little bit. Not everything is theatre and spectacle. Sometimes the rage is real and it can tip over and spill all over everything. I hope I'm just being paranoid and fanciful, but I feel like something bad is about to happen in America, and it has nothing to with current events or bills that need to be passed. It has to do with something under the surface that is quickly rising to the top. Someone tell me I am an idiot and that nothing is going to happen. This is one of those times when I wouldn't mind being told I'm wrong.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on August 26, 2009, 09:45:46 AM
KO's great take-down last nite of United Health Group. I used to work for them -- glad I no longer do.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyi4gYhN9Qs
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on August 27, 2009, 08:09:16 AM
Another fine Leslie Griffith blog post about Darth Cheney:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/griffith/detail?entry_id=46298
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Gazoo on August 28, 2009, 08:10:59 AM
Food for thought, from a poster on a political thread at hollywood-elsewhere.com:

Quote
What we are starting to see is the germination of Fascism in this country. The Elites feel they need to do whatever they can to hold on to their power, and what better way than to rile up the working class, the downtrodden, the gun nuts, the religious fringe. This has nothing to do with health care. Once this whole health care thing blows over it will be something else, and on and on, one thing after the next, until the thugs literally take to the streets, armed, and try and take back control of this country. This is all about religion and race and returning this nation to some so-called idyllic myth that only exists in movies and novels, not that the cretins can tell the difference. As a white, middle-class Jewish man, the many, many hairs on the back of my neck are starting to tingle a little bit. Not everything is theatre and spectacle. Sometimes the rage is real and it can tip over and spill all over everything. I hope I'm just being paranoid and fanciful, but I feel like something bad is about to happen in America, and it has nothing to with current events or bills that need to be passed. It has to do with something under the surface that is quickly rising to the top. Someone tell me I am an idiot and that nothing is going to happen. This is one of those times when I wouldn't mind being told I'm wrong.

I've been dwelling on this notion a bit lately.  The true test will be what happens when, inevitably, some lone nut attempts to make a martyr of himself - whether he's vilified or celebrated by the right wing will tell us whether larger pockets of angry whites will attempt full-on insurrection.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Gazoo on August 28, 2009, 10:09:47 AM
More right-wing pastoral threats.  Left-wing Christians really ought to stand up and denounce this kind of shit:

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/anderson-every-homosexual-world-deviant-predator-who-out-recruit-others-through-molestation-
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Gazoo on August 28, 2009, 03:22:54 PM
More right-wing pastoral threats.  Left-wing Christians really ought to stand up and denounce this kind of shit:

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/anderson-every-homosexual-world-deviant-predator-who-out-recruit-others-through-molestation-

Let's play connect-the dots:

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/08/pastor_of_gun-toter_at_obama_event_day_before_even.php

"Pastor" Anderson is an inspiration to gun-toting right-wingers!  Sorry, Geoff et al, but these nuts have become the face of American Christianity.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: mshray on August 28, 2009, 03:33:57 PM
More right-wing pastoral threats.  Left-wing Christians really ought to stand up and denounce this kind of shit:

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/anderson-every-homosexual-world-deviant-predator-who-out-recruit-others-through-molestation-

I must say that I didn't even have the stomach to read that, but it occurs that it is easy to refute.  I've only had close personal friendships with two young women who were victims of violent rape* but each had several relationships with women subsequently, not men.  It is likely that my brother was molested by an older male teenager when he was 14 & he remains the most homo-phobic person in my family (but since we're mostly a bunch of homophiles...it is only by degree, he is basically tolerant).  This is one of the most ridiculous claims that can be made.  It has long since been demonstrated beyond statitstical doubt that violence begets violence, not gender reorientataion.

*Spoiler alert: the rest won't be pleasant reading.

Of the two mentioned above, one was a very close friend, abducted by two guys, thrown into a car and they both had their way before dumping her out of the car in the middle of nowhere in a torrential downpour. 

The other was a grad school classmate that I rather liked.  She was the final victim of a serial rapist who was a mental patient recently released because of budget cuts in WA State.  His MO was such that all she knows is she went to sleep in her bed and was awakened with a cloth pressed over her eyes and a knife at her throat.  The rest followed as you can imagine (& this was in the days before DNA evidence.)  Fortunately he kept his next appointment with his parole officer & said PO determined enough inconsistencies in his story that eventually they got a confession from him.

Here's the kicker, and one of my most deeply suppressed memories: I had a date with this girl that very night, but I cancelled for some small reason that I couldn't remember then, nor have since. 

What if...?


Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on August 28, 2009, 03:41:56 PM
More right-wing pastoral threats.  Left-wing Christians really ought to stand up and denounce this kind of shit:

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/anderson-every-homosexual-world-deviant-predator-who-out-recruit-others-through-molestation-

Let's play connect-the dots:

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/08/pastor_of_gun-toter_at_obama_event_day_before_even.php

"Pastor" Anderson is an inspiration to gun-toting right-wingers!  Sorry, Geoff et al, but these nuts have become the face of American Christianity.

and BTW see Jon Carroll's column today; he also has that something-bad-might-happen feeling.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: ggould on August 28, 2009, 06:49:12 PM
More right-wing pastoral threats.  Left-wing Christians really ought to stand up and denounce this kind of shit:

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/anderson-every-homosexual-world-deviant-predator-who-out-recruit-others-through-molestation-

Let's play connect-the dots:

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/08/pastor_of_gun-toter_at_obama_event_day_before_even.php

"Pastor" Anderson is an inspiration to gun-toting right-wingers!  Sorry, Geoff et al, but these nuts have become the face of American Christianity.
I'm not quite sure why you'd think I'd have a problem with this.  I organize music once a month at a predominantly LGBT church, and I detest those kind of so-called Christians (the right-wing nuts).  We have recently played U2's One, which is pretty in-your-face to that crowd

Quote from: U2
Have you come here for forgiveness
Have you come to raise the dead
Have you come here to play Jesus
To the lepers in your head

Did I ask too much
More than a lot
You gave me nothing
Now it's all I got
We're one
But we're not the same
Well we
Hurt each other
Then we do it again
You say
Love is a temple
Love a higher law
Love is a temple
Love the higher law
You ask me to enter
But then you make me crawl
And I can't be holding on
To what you got
When all you got is hurt
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Gazoo on August 28, 2009, 11:19:46 PM
"Pastor" Anderson is an inspiration to gun-toting right-wingers!  Sorry, Geoff et al, but these nuts have become the face of American Christianity.
I'm not quite sure why you'd think I'd have a problem with this.

My inartful wording - I mean "sorry" as in, I'm sorry that this is the state of things.  Christianity deserves better public representation.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on August 29, 2009, 11:13:17 AM
"Pastor" Anderson is an inspiration to gun-toting right-wingers!  Sorry, Geoff et al, but these nuts have become the face of American Christianity.
I'm not quite sure why you'd think I'd have a problem with this.

My inartful wording - I mean "sorry" as in, I'm sorry that this is the state of things.  Christianity deserves better public representation.

As Max Von Sydow's character said in Hannah & Her Sisters: "If Jesus came back, and saw what's going on in his name, he'd never stop throwing up."
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: ggould on August 29, 2009, 12:33:03 PM
"Pastor" Anderson is an inspiration to gun-toting right-wingers!  Sorry, Geoff et al, but these nuts have become the face of American Christianity.
I'm not quite sure why you'd think I'd have a problem with this.

My inartful wording - I mean "sorry" as in, I'm sorry that this is the state of things.  Christianity deserves better public representation.
no problem; I don't really care that much how Christianity is viewed, and it is indeed in a sorry state!
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on September 02, 2009, 08:34:52 PM
Now THIS is scary: Curt Schilling is "considering" running for Ted Kennedy's senate seat.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: urth on September 02, 2009, 09:24:55 PM
Now THIS is scary: Curt Schilling is "considering" running for Ted Kennedy's senate seat.

First Jim Bunning, now this? Oy. When was the last time Massachusetts had a Republican senator?
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on September 03, 2009, 07:43:14 AM
Now THIS is scary: Curt Schilling is "considering" running for Ted Kennedy's senate seat.

First Jim Bunning, now this? Oy. When was the last time Massachusetts had a Republican senator?

as Rachel maddow said last nite: "the big righty is a BIG Righty"
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on September 03, 2009, 08:44:34 PM
Now THIS is scary: Curt Schilling is "considering" running for Ted Kennedy's senate seat.

First Jim Bunning, now this? Oy. When was the last time Massachusetts had a Republican senator?

as Rachel Maddow said last nite: "the big righty is a BIG Righty"

*UPDATE* - Maddow reports tonite that Schilling (a) told another interviewer that it was very iffy and a lot of things would have to "align themselves" for him to run, and (b) it turns out he's not a Repub -- he's a registered Independent, and it's too late (per Mass. law) for him to re-register with the GOP and run as a Repub for the Senate seat. But if he runs as an Independent, he'd potentially be only the 3rd "I" in the Senate, along with Joe "Droopy Dawg" Lieberman and ultra-lefty Bernie Sanders. Those'd be some interesting lunch meetings...
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Gazoo on September 03, 2009, 11:29:47 PM
Now THIS is scary: Curt Schilling is "considering" running for Ted Kennedy's senate seat.

First Jim Bunning, now this? Oy. When was the last time Massachusetts had a Republican senator?

as Rachel Maddow said last nite: "the big righty is a BIG Righty"

*UPDATE* - Maddow reports tonite that Schilling (a) told another interviewer that it was very iffy and a lot of things would have to "align themselves" for him to run, and (b) it turns out he's not a Repub -- he's a registered Independent, and it's too late (per Mass. law) for him to re-register with the GOP and run as a Repub for the Senate seat. But if he runs as an Independent, he'd potentially be only the 3rd "I" in the Senate, along with Joe "Droopy Dawg" Lieberman and ultra-lefty Bernie Sanders. Those'd be some interesting lunch meetings...

Let the fucker do it.  Let him see on the damn trail what a horrid lot the GOP base has become.  (Why the moderate and intellectual wings of the Republican party aren't trying to reclaim its mantle from the torch-wielding flath-earthers is beyond me - unless there really aren't so many of them after all.)  Schill's one of those beautifully deluded guys who knows what he knows but does not know what he does not know.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on September 04, 2009, 07:30:24 AM
Let the fucker do it.  Let him see on the damn trail what a horrid lot the GOP base has become.  (Why the moderate and intellectual wings of the Republican party aren't trying to reclaim its mantle from the torch-wielding flath-earthers is beyond me - unless there really aren't so many of them after all.)  Schill's one of those beautifully deluded guys who knows what he knows but does not know what he does not know.

which is precisely why he'd fit in quite well with that crowd -- he's a Fundie, after all -- and he and the nut-jobs will get along famously, methinks.

And no, there *is* no moderate wing of the GOP anymore.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on September 09, 2009, 12:25:27 PM
Never talk dirty in front of a microphone -- ya never know if it's on!

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/nov05election/detail?entry_id=47181
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: mshray on September 09, 2009, 05:33:37 PM

Never talk dirty in front of a microphone -- ya never know if it's on!

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/nov05election/detail?entry_id=47181

The whole article talks about the fact that the "comments were innappropriate"...but what about the ACTIONS that the comments referred to?  You mean it's okay to cheat on the woman with whom you are cheating on your wife, just don't COMMENT ON IT ??

WTF  ???
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: SFGuy on September 10, 2009, 01:10:16 AM
Let the fucker do it.  Let him see on the damn trail what a horrid lot the GOP base has become.  (Why the moderate and intellectual wings of the Republican party aren't trying to reclaim its mantle from the torch-wielding flath-earthers is beyond me - unless there really aren't so many of them after all.)  Schill's one of those beautifully deluded guys who knows what he knows but does not know what he does not know.

which is precisely why he'd fit in quite well with that crowd -- he's a Fundie, after all -- and he and the nut-jobs will get along famously, methinks.

And no, there *is* no moderate wing of the GOP anymore.

No moderates left is the reason why I left the GOP and am "Declined to State" in CA. I wish we could register as an Independent in CA. I hate the Demos as much as I hate the GOP.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Tinka Cat on September 10, 2009, 09:03:27 AM

Never talk dirty in front of a microphone -- ya never know if it's on!

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/nov05election/detail?entry_id=47181

The whole article talks about the fact that the "comments were innappropriate"...but what about the ACTIONS that the comments referred to?  You mean it's okay to cheat on the woman with whom you are cheating on your wife, just don't COMMENT ON IT ??

WTF  ???

but the actual recorded comments were all they had to go in at first.  He wasn't caught in any acts -- except talking dirty.  Nevertheless, when there's smoke, there's fire.   But he did resign last night.   AP reports "The Assembly Ethics Committee is investigating Duvall's comments, in part to determine whether the affair might have influenced his votes."   

sad and stupid...
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on September 10, 2009, 09:17:27 AM
Let the fucker do it.  Let him see on the damn trail what a horrid lot the GOP base has become.  (Why the moderate and intellectual wings of the Republican party aren't trying to reclaim its mantle from the torch-wielding flath-earthers is beyond me - unless there really aren't so many of them after all.)  Schill's one of those beautifully deluded guys who knows what he knows but does not know what he does not know.

which is precisely why he'd fit in quite well with that crowd -- he's a Fundie, after all -- and he and the nut-jobs will get along famously, methinks.

And no, there *is* no moderate wing of the GOP anymore.

No moderates left is the reason why I left the GOP and am "Declined to State" in CA. I wish we could register as an Independent in CA. I hate the Demos as much as I hate the GOP.

I'm curious, from a legal angle, if the "Decline to State" option, which in CA allows you to vote in either Dem or GOP primaries, is preferable to being a registered Independent, which might preclude that. Anybody know for sure?
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Gazoo on September 10, 2009, 11:06:28 AM
Let the fucker do it.  Let him see on the damn trail what a horrid lot the GOP base has become.  (Why the moderate and intellectual wings of the Republican party aren't trying to reclaim its mantle from the torch-wielding flath-earthers is beyond me - unless there really aren't so many of them after all.)  Schill's one of those beautifully deluded guys who knows what he knows but does not know what he does not know.

which is precisely why he'd fit in quite well with that crowd -- he's a Fundie, after all -- and he and the nut-jobs will get along famously, methinks.

And no, there *is* no moderate wing of the GOP anymore.

No moderates left is the reason why I left the GOP and am "Declined to State" in CA. I wish we could register as an Independent in CA. I hate the Demos as much as I hate the GOP.

I'm curious, from a legal angle, if the "Decline to State" option, which in CA allows you to vote in either Dem or GOP primaries, is preferable to being a registered Independent, which might preclude that. Anybody know for sure?

Pennsylvania, sadly, is absurdly prohibitive: if you're a Democrat, you can vote only in the Dem primary; if you're a Republican, you can vote only in the GOP primary; and if you're independent or third-party, you can't vote in the primary at all.  Quite un-democratic.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Tinka Cat on September 10, 2009, 11:12:44 AM
Lawmaker tries to apologize for outburst

"In an extraordinary breach of congressional decorum, a Republican lawmaker shouted "You lie" at President Obama during his speech to Congress Wednesday."

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/09/10/MN9119L0RK.DTL

(http://imgs.sfgate.com/c/pictures/2009/09/09/mn-obama10_ph3_w_0500575247_part1.jpg)

No doubt, some will say "bravo!" at his actions, and those same folks would be all in a tizzy if a Dem had yelled at Bush, saying "Respect the office"
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on September 10, 2009, 11:18:18 AM
Let the fucker do it.  Let him see on the damn trail what a horrid lot the GOP base has become.  (Why the moderate and intellectual wings of the Republican party aren't trying to reclaim its mantle from the torch-wielding flath-earthers is beyond me - unless there really aren't so many of them after all.)  Schill's one of those beautifully deluded guys who knows what he knows but does not know what he does not know.

which is precisely why he'd fit in quite well with that crowd -- he's a Fundie, after all -- and he and the nut-jobs will get along famously, methinks.

And no, there *is* no moderate wing of the GOP anymore.

No moderates left is the reason why I left the GOP and am "Declined to State" in CA. I wish we could register as an Independent in CA. I hate the Demos as much as I hate the GOP.

I'm curious, from a legal angle, if the "Decline to State" option, which in CA allows you to vote in either Dem or GOP primaries, is preferable to being a registered Independent, which might preclude that. Anybody know for sure?

Pennsylvania, sadly, is absurdly prohibitive: if you're a Democrat, you can vote only in the Dem primary; if you're a Republican, you can vote only in the GOP primary; and if you're independent or third-party, you can't vote in the primary at all.  Quite un-democratic.

I disagree, actually -- where primaries are concerned, well, that's why they're called primaries. You're choosing your party's standard-bearers. I think "decline to state" folks should be able to choose a party in a primary, but if you're an Independent... well, you shoulda taken that into consideration when you registered.  And the idea of Dems voting in GOP primaries and vice-versa, well... be careful what you wish for. Did we not see the wingnuts talking up the idea of "sabotaging" Dem primaries last year by rallying around Hillary etc?  I think that's more of an issue now than ever, and it ought to scare the bejeezus out of ya.

and TC: agreed -- can you IMAGINE the outrage on Faux News and the wingnut blogosphere if a Dem had done that to a GOP prez? Good gawd, they'd be demading he be put on trial for treason.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: mshray on September 10, 2009, 11:29:49 AM

Lawmaker tries to apologize for outburst.

"In an extraordinary breach of congressional decorum, a Republican lawmaker shouted "You lie" at President Obama during his speech to Congress Wednesday."

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/09/10/MN9119L0RK.DTL

Y'all gotta read this piece by Joe Klein from Time: The GOP Has Become a Party of Nihilists (http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1917525,00.html), which appeared three weeks ago in the 8/20 issue.  I guess Joe Wilson proved Klein's point last night.  And I hope it is the long-overdue wakeup call to the middle of the political spectrum.  These Republicans have lost all sense of shame & should have lost any credibility with moderates & independents once and for all.

p.s. Gaz, you ever run across Klein in the office?  He was a long-time Newsweek columnist, but when he denied writing Primary Colors, by Anonymous - repeatedly & on the record - and then had to admit that he did, they had little choice but to let him go.  After a period in the wilderness he has been rehabilitated at Time for a few years now.

Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on September 10, 2009, 11:36:54 AM
I hope it is the long-overdue wakeup call to the middle of the political spectrum.  These Republicans have lost all sense of shame & should have lost any credibility with moderates & independents once and for all.


Key phase there being "should have"... I would dearly love to believe it, but we seem to say that every time one of these idiots does something, er, idiotic. And nothing changes. A poll last week said a significantly increased number of people are self-identifying as Repubs now, compared to the end of last year.  Sorry, but the ugliness has only begun, if the Rethugs think it's actually getting them somehwere.  >:(
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Gazoo on September 10, 2009, 03:15:34 PM

Lawmaker tries to apologize for outburst.

"In an extraordinary breach of congressional decorum, a Republican lawmaker shouted "You lie" at President Obama during his speech to Congress Wednesday."

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/09/10/MN9119L0RK.DTL

Y'all gotta read this piece by Joe Klein from Time: The GOP Has Become a Party of Nihilists (http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1917525,00.html), which appeared three weeks ago in the 8/20 issue.  I guess Joe Wilson proved Klein's point last night.  And I hope it is the long-overdue wakeup call to the middle of the political spectrum.  These Republicans have lost all sense of shame & should have lost any credibility with moderates & independents once and for all.

p.s. Gaz, you ever run across Klein in the office?  He was a long-time Newsweek columnist, but when he denied writing Primary Colors, by Anonymous - repeatedly & on the record - and then had to admit that he did, they had little choice but to let him go.  After a period in the wilderness he has been rehabilitated at Time for a few years now.



He's in the office sometimes, but I've never spoken face to face with him.  I did, however, once anger him by altering too much of his punctuation in a story - unable to reach me, he went off on the reporter who was liasing between us and drove her to tears.  Klein is combatively possessive about his copy and is deeply unliked by several of us at the copy desk, even though he frequently writes stories of great value.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on September 10, 2009, 08:31:06 PM
A really GREAT Olbermann "special comment" tonite about the GOP being the Party of Stupidity. Dunno if it's on the Tubes of You, but it's surely at the MSNBC/"Countdown" website. Check it out.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: SFGuy on September 11, 2009, 12:05:07 AM
A really GREAT Olbermann "special comment" tonite about the GOP being the Party of Stupidity. Dunno if it's on the Tubes of You, but it's surely at the MSNBC/"Countdown" website. Check it out.

I cannot STAND Olbermann. He just seems so arrogant. I've hated him since way back in the ESPN days when he would team with another arrogant person. Dan Patrick. Those two show up on my TV and turned it to anything else I could find.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: SFGuy on September 11, 2009, 12:08:17 AM
Let the fucker do it.  Let him see on the damn trail what a horrid lot the GOP base has become.  (Why the moderate and intellectual wings of the Republican party aren't trying to reclaim its mantle from the torch-wielding flath-earthers is beyond me - unless there really aren't so many of them after all.)  Schill's one of those beautifully deluded guys who knows what he knows but does not know what he does not know.

which is precisely why he'd fit in quite well with that crowd -- he's a Fundie, after all -- and he and the nut-jobs will get along famously, methinks.

And no, there *is* no moderate wing of the GOP anymore.

No moderates left is the reason why I left the GOP and am "Declined to State" in CA. I wish we could register as an Independent in CA. I hate the Demos as much as I hate the GOP.

I'm curious, from a legal angle, if the "Decline to State" option, which in CA allows you to vote in either Dem or GOP primaries, is preferable to being a registered Independent, which might preclude that. Anybody know for sure?

I read a few weeks ago that the GOP in the state is thinking of not allowing "Decline to State" people to vote in their primaries. The Dems will still allow it.

As I remember, the GOP didn't allow "DTS" to vote in the 2008 primaries for President.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on September 11, 2009, 12:19:51 PM
I hope it is the long-overdue wakeup call to the middle of the political spectrum.  These Republicans have lost all sense of shame & should have lost any credibility with moderates & independents once and for all.


Key phase there being "should have"... I would dearly love to believe it, but we seem to say that every time one of these idiots does something, er, idiotic. And nothing changes. A poll last week said a significantly increased number of people are self-identifying as Repubs now, compared to the end of last year.  Sorry, but the ugliness has only begun, if the Rethugs think it's actually getting them somehwere.  >:(

saw this in the NYT today, a stat that I'd missed last year: in Louisiana, Obama only got 11% of the white vote -- in a state that is 3/4 white. And yet they elected Jindal governor.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Gazoo on September 12, 2009, 02:22:43 AM
I hope it is the long-overdue wakeup call to the middle of the political spectrum.  These Republicans have lost all sense of shame & should have lost any credibility with moderates & independents once and for all.


Key phase there being "should have"... I would dearly love to believe it, but we seem to say that every time one of these idiots does something, er, idiotic. And nothing changes. A poll last week said a significantly increased number of people are self-identifying as Repubs now, compared to the end of last year.  Sorry, but the ugliness has only begun, if the Rethugs think it's actually getting them somehwere.  >:(

saw this in the NYT today, a stat that I'd missed last year: in Louisiana, Obama only got 11% of the white vote -- in a state that is 3/4 white. And yet they elected Jindal governor.

Jindal = Stephin Fetchit.

Anyone want to prove me I'm wrong?
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: ggould on September 14, 2009, 08:43:06 AM
teabaggers in action:
(http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs275.snc1/10223_1222946769383_1100386978_30733424_5909306_n.jpg)
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on September 14, 2009, 08:50:54 AM
teabaggers in action:
(http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs275.snc1/10223_1222946769383_1100386978_30733424_5909306_n.jpg)

damn that is classic!
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on September 14, 2009, 12:02:30 PM
This Repub believes in family f--ing values!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/12/gop-gubernatorial-candida_n_284605.html
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Gazoo on September 15, 2009, 01:16:26 AM
Former footballer Jay Riemersma (Whose ma? Reimersma!) is running for Congress ... as a theocrat.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/09/14/former-nfl-player-to-run-for-congres/#more-68902

Former NFL player to run for Congress
Posted: September 14th, 2009 07:26 PM ET

From CNN's Lauren Kornreich

WASHINGTON (CNN) — Former professional football player Jay Riemersma announced Monday that he is running for Congress in Michigan in 2010.

The GOP candidate is running for the seat being vacated by Rep. Peter Hoekstra, a Republican vying to become the next governor of Michigan. Riemersma set up an exploratory committee in June, but made it official on Monday with a speech in Holland, Michigan.

Comparing Congress to the National Football League, the former Buffalo Bills tight end promised to "never vote to raise your taxes."

"I'm announcing my candidacy today because we need a Republican renaissance – a return to our conservative principles of governance – and I'm ready to help lead this movement," Riemersma said, in remarks released by his campaign.


Since retiring from professional sports, Riemersma has been working for the conservative Family Research Council and coaching high school football. In November 2008, he penned a letter to the editor in the Holland Sentinal entitled "How could Christians vote for Obama?"

In the article, he said that "faith should permeate every aspect of our lives" and said any Christian who chose to support Barack Obama's presidential bid did so "from a lack of understanding."

"Too many Christians shroud their God-given light with misguided intentions and uninformed choices," Riemersma wrote. "Moving forward to the next election, I implore all Christians to base their vote not on a political party or a polished politician, but rather on Biblical principle."


Riemersma already has other opponents in the Republican primary — state Rep. Bill Huizenga announced last December that he is running, and state Sen. Wayne Kuipers is reportedly considering a bid.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on September 18, 2009, 03:21:24 PM
Holy S**T! Bill O'Reilly backs Public Option on Health Care!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/17/bill-oreilly-backs-public_n_290658.html

Pigs fly! Glenn Beck's and Keith Olbermann's heads explode simultaneously! 

Now if we could just get Max Baucus on board...
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: SFGuy on September 19, 2009, 02:00:45 AM
Holy S**T! Bill O'Reilly backs Public Option on Health Care!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/17/bill-oreilly-backs-public_n_290658.html

Pigs fly! Glenn Beck's and Keith Olbermann's heads explode simultaneously! 

Now if we could just get Max Baucus on board...

If O'Reilly likes it, then it must be bad.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Tinka Cat on September 20, 2009, 08:42:59 PM
Holy S**T! Bill O'Reilly backs Public Option on Health Care!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/17/bill-oreilly-backs-public_n_290658.html

Pigs fly! Glenn Beck's and Keith Olbermann's heads explode simultaneously! 

Now if we could just get Max Baucus on board...


a fringe player.  Remember, O'Reilly doesn't speak for the GOP/right... Limbaugh does.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: mshray on September 21, 2009, 01:59:39 PM
Holy S**T! Bill O'Reilly backs Public Option on Health Care!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/17/bill-oreilly-backs-public_n_290658.html

Pigs fly! Glenn Beck's and Keith Olbermann's heads explode simultaneously! 

In Political Science there is a well-documented and demonstrated thing called The Radical Fringe Effect.  (Think of the Black Panthers in the civil rights movement & the public bra-burners in the women's rights movement, and the SDS in the anti-Vietnam protests).  In simplest form, if one views politics as a spectrum (and "political spectrum" is a catch phrase if not a cliche), then it is easy to move from there to a view of politics as a big teeter-totter balancing on the fulcrum of the median of public opinion.  Thus the further out towards either end one moves, the more leverage one has.  But, to continue the metaphor, if there is someone way the hell out there on the opposite end of the teeter-totter (and with increasing leverage) then one has two choices: move even further out on your one side to offset them, OR get everyone to scootch in a little but towards the center so that the opposite extremists go crashing to the ground and bounce off.

For most of the 70's and 80's the GOP was successful in doing the latter to the Dems. Scootching towards the center and crashing the Dems because they refused to scootch centerwards from their most radical constituents.

But now the GOP has no center: Rush & Glenn & Rep. Joe Wilson & Sarah Palin have moved the core of the party so far out to the end of the teeter-totter, that even Bill O'Reilly feels the need to scootch back toward the center to avoid the literal fall-off.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on September 21, 2009, 02:13:17 PM
Mark should especially appreciate this from one of the Chron's "guest" blogs:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/djennings/detail?entry_id=47973
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on September 21, 2009, 07:43:34 PM
Glenn Beck has decided to follow-up his 9/12 tea party with "A National Day of Fasting and Prayer" -- he wants it to be Sept 28th.  Which happens to be...  Yom Kippur, the Jewish Day of, um, Fasting and Prayer. Gee, is Glenn Beck a Mormon goy? Oy!

Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on September 22, 2009, 12:45:30 PM
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_4ePTWhu3J64/SqReE0R3o2I/AAAAAAAAQ5o/zVThLPzlhDg/s400/youth-in-asia.jpg)
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: mshray on September 22, 2009, 04:11:21 PM
Mark should especially appreciate this from one of the Chron's "guest" blogs:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/djennings/detail?entry_id=47973

that gave me chuckles for a few different reasons, and very few people in Missouri have any love left for John I-Lost-To-A-Dead-Guy-and-All-I-Got-Was-the-Attorney-General's-Office Ashcroft.

But if Duffy Jennings remember those days that well, I have to wonder what his true feelings were about the astonishing breach of conduct that Roger Craig allowed & implicitly condoned with Jeffrey One-Flap-Down Leonard during the latter's tenure in SF.  Nobody, not Babe Ruth, not even Bonds, not ANYONE ever circled the bases after a home run with a more obvious display of poor-sportsmanship. 

If LaRussa had been managing the Cards back then I hesitate to think what would have happened in the '87 NLCS.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: ggould on September 22, 2009, 04:15:03 PM
Mark should especially appreciate this from one of the Chron's "guest" blogs:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/djennings/detail?entry_id=47973

that gave me chuckles for a few different reasons, and very few people in Missouri have any love left for John I-Lost-To-A-Dead-Guy-and-All-I-Got-Was-the-Attorney-General's-Office Ashcroft.

But if Duffy Jennings remember those days that well, I have to wonder what his true feelings were about the astonishing breach of conduct that Roger Craig allowed & implicitly condoned with Jeffrey One-Flap-Down Leonard during the latter's tenure in SF.  Nobody, not Babe Ruth, not even Bonds, not ANYONE ever circled the bases after a home run with a more obvious display of poor-sportsmanship. 

If LaRussa had been managing the Cards back then I hesitate to think what would have happened in the '87 NLCS.
Kirk Gibson?
(http://sluggernation.com/images/hall%20of%20fame/Kirk.jpg)
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: mshray on September 22, 2009, 04:31:40 PM
not even close.  That was spontaneous emotion.  Leonard did it EVERY SINGLE TIME, all season.  Pure one-upmanship, and in the old school (of which Craig was credited with being a member, and of which LaRussa is the last surviving member) that sort of thing would have been snuffed out the minute it became an obvious pattern.

and since it was his left arm down, it was literally a Right Wing phenomenon!
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Tinka Cat on September 22, 2009, 04:32:39 PM
Mark should especially appreciate this from one of the Chron's "guest" blogs:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/djennings/detail?entry_id=47973

that gave me chuckles for a few different reasons, and very few people in Missouri have any love left for John I-Lost-To-A-Dead-Guy-and-All-I-Got-Was-the-Attorney-General's-Office Ashcroft.

But if Duffy Jennings remember those days that well, I have to wonder what his true feelings were about the astonishing breach of conduct that Roger Craig allowed & implicitly condoned with Jeffrey One-Flap-Down Leonard during the latter's tenure in SF.  Nobody, not Babe Ruth, not even Bonds, not ANYONE ever circled the bases after a home run with a more obvious display of poor-sportsmanship. 

If LaRussa had been managing the Cards back then I hesitate to think what would have happened in the '87 NLCS.
Kirk Gibson?


Gibson was pretty demonstrative after he went yard off Eck, but that seemed to be one-time thing on that improbable homer. From what I just read about Leonard, he premeditated his "Flap" trots, and claimed to have five of them, each crafted to tick off opposing pitchers.  But he knew what his shenanigans would do: he fully expected to get hit in some subsequent AB. He said that was fine "as long as it's below the neck."  



Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on September 28, 2009, 12:01:51 PM
copied from today's 10@10 Thread...

One more BOS for George and the Beatles, Within You Without You, but the Kinks still get the vote I'll actually cast.

in all the years I've been listening, today is the probably the second time that I actually cast a BOS vote.  (Kinks)

I'm curious: How many folks here actually do cast votes?

I rarely do -- if something AL plays really gobsmacks me, I'll e-mail her. But I'm basically the Meg Whitman of BOS voting  ;)

HA!  OMG, on local news Friday, I think they showed her giving a speech at a local company that did solar panel installation/manufacturing or something.  And while there giving a speech to employees (and media), she proclaimed that CA's "green jobs" bill was a mistake, and that many jobs will be lost because of it.

Awesome.

When the reporter called her on it, she brushed him off with a "yes, these jobs (solar) are good, but AB-whatver is not the right way to increase them or something".  He pushed further, and she gave this *incredibly* condescending/cutesy smile/grimace and said, "Sorry, I've got to go, thank you for your question."  Made me want to punch her in the face.  Holy crap.  Let me find the video...
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on September 28, 2009, 12:02:48 PM
copied from today's 10@10 thread...

One more BOS for George and the Beatles, Within You Without You, but the Kinks still get the vote I'll actually cast.

in all the years I've been listening, today is the probably the second time that I actually cast a BOS vote.  (Kinks)

I'm curious: How many folks here actually do cast votes?

I rarely do -- if something AL plays really gobsmacks me, I'll e-mail her. But I'm basically the Meg Whitman of BOS voting  ;)

Darryl replied:

Quote
HA!  OMG, on local news Friday, I think they showed her giving a speech at a local company that did solar panel installation/manufacturing or something.  And while there giving a speech to employees (and media), she proclaimed that CA's "green jobs" bill was a mistake, and that many jobs will be lost because of it.

Awesome.

When the reporter called her on it, she brushed him off with a "yes, these jobs (solar) are good, but AB-whatver is not the right way to increase them or something".  He pushed further, and she gave this *incredibly* condescending/cutesy smile/grimace and said, "Sorry, I've got to go, thank you for your question."  Made me want to punch her in the face.  Holy crap.  Let me find the video...


I'm really hoping the Dems have a GOOD guv candidate to run against her.  I voted against Ah-nuld -- twice -- but I was not at all pleased with Phil Angelides. He was a TERRIBLE candidate. Ah-nuld's poll numbers were in the toilet 6 months before that election -- anybody halfway decent coulda  beat him.



Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on September 28, 2009, 03:30:07 PM
scarier & scarier:  Facebook has to delete a poll asking "Should Obama be killed?"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/28/obama-facebook-poll-asks_n_301860.html

Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: urth on September 28, 2009, 03:37:21 PM
scarier & scarier:  Facebook has to delete a poll asking "Should Obama be killed?"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/28/obama-facebook-poll-asks_n_301860.html


Yeesh, no limit to the stupidity of some people. If that guy didn't have an FBI dossier before, he's got one now.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on September 28, 2009, 04:04:19 PM
Meg Whitman's response: Sonny Bono didn't vote either!

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/nov05election/detail?entry_id=48475&tsp=1
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: urth on September 28, 2009, 10:09:17 PM
Meg Whitman's response: Sonny Bono didn't vote either!

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/nov05election/detail?entry_id=48475&tsp=1

Another graduate of the Sarah Palin School of Evasive Campaign Responses. So thank you for that!
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: SFGuy on September 29, 2009, 01:32:48 AM
copied from today's 10@10 thread...

One more BOS for George and the Beatles, Within You Without You, but the Kinks still get the vote I'll actually cast.

in all the years I've been listening, today is the probably the second time that I actually cast a BOS vote.  (Kinks)

I'm curious: How many folks here actually do cast votes?

I rarely do -- if something AL plays really gobsmacks me, I'll e-mail her. But I'm basically the Meg Whitman of BOS voting  ;)

Darryl replied:

Quote
HA!  OMG, on local news Friday, I think they showed her giving a speech at a local company that did solar panel installation/manufacturing or something.  And while there giving a speech to employees (and media), she proclaimed that CA's "green jobs" bill was a mistake, and that many jobs will be lost because of it.

Awesome.

When the reporter called her on it, she brushed him off with a "yes, these jobs (solar) are good, but AB-whatver is not the right way to increase them or something".  He pushed further, and she gave this *incredibly* condescending/cutesy smile/grimace and said, "Sorry, I've got to go, thank you for your question."  Made me want to punch her in the face.  Holy crap.  Let me find the video...


I'm really hoping the Dems have a GOOD guv candidate to run against her.  I voted against Ah-nuld -- twice -- but I was not at all pleased with Phil Angelides. He was a TERRIBLE candidate. Ah-nuld's poll numbers were in the toilet 6 months before that election -- anybody halfway decent coulda  beat him.





So far you got Jerry Brown and Gavin Newsom. Not too great, IMO.

One candidate I could support but none of you would, would be Tom Campbell.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on September 29, 2009, 07:36:57 AM

So far you got Jerry Brown and Gavin Newsom. Not too great, IMO.

One candidate I could support but none of you would, would be Tom Campbell.

Actually, Campbell is that rare GOP'er who supports same-sex marriage. That probably dooms him in a Repub primary, but I would certainly give him a look, depending on who the Dems nominate.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: mshray on September 29, 2009, 03:05:02 PM

So far you got Jerry Brown and Gavin Newsom. Not too great, IMO.

One candidate I could support but none of you would, would be Tom Campbell.

Actually, Campbell is that rare GOP'er who supports same-sex marriage. That probably dooms him in a Repub primary, but I would certainly give him a look, depending on who the Dems nominate.

He's one of the last remaining fiscal conservative, social moderates left in the GOP (used to be all their candidates in the Northeast were such, including that Mormon fella from Mass.) 

Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Gazoo on October 12, 2009, 10:24:17 PM
Not the best thread for this - but there's an antiwar rally at Civic Center this Saturday at noon:

http://www.onlisareinsradar.com/archives/002862.php

Not sure about that guest list - Cynthia McKinney strikes me as rather insane.
Title: Joe Lieberman
Post by: ggould on October 28, 2009, 08:24:29 AM
that whore!
Title: Re: Joe Lieberman
Post by: Gazoo on October 28, 2009, 09:28:21 AM
that whore!

Agreed.  He should live in shame.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Gazoo on November 11, 2009, 01:37:42 PM
It's redundant and not terribly useful anymore to point out lies from Hannity and Fox, but here ya go:

http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/11/11/hannity-to-address-protest-video-questions-tonight/?hp
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Tinka Cat on November 11, 2009, 02:53:09 PM
It's redundant and not terribly useful anymore to point out lies from Hannity and Fox, but here ya go:

http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/11/11/hannity-to-address-protest-video-questions-tonight/?hp

wow, that was hilarious and infuriating. 
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on November 11, 2009, 03:03:52 PM
It's redundant and not terribly useful anymore to point out lies from Hannity and Fox, but here ya go:

http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/11/11/hannity-to-address-protest-video-questions-tonight/?hp

wow, that was hilarious and infuriating. 

thank GAWD for Stewart & Colbert, I supplicate myself in worship of them both.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on November 12, 2009, 08:57:37 AM
and by now you've heard that Lou Dobbs quit CNN yesterday. This on the same day that South Park did a nifty spoof of Glenn Beck.  Harmonic convergence?
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Gazoo on November 12, 2009, 09:26:47 AM
Oh, Carrie Prejean, you vacuous twit:

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/bestoftv/2009/11/11/lkl.prejean.upset.cnn
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on November 20, 2009, 09:13:16 AM
Green Apple Books on Clement Street is donating all of its profits from sales of Sarah Palin's "Going Rogue" to a pro-environment group that helps save Alaskan wolves from being hunted from planes. LOL!



Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Tinka Cat on November 20, 2009, 09:33:43 AM
Green Apple Books on Clement Street is donating all of its profits from sales of Sarah Palin's "Going Rogue" to a pro-environment group that helps save Alaskan wolves from being hunted from planes. LOL!


a few Bay Area independent bookstores will not carry her book.  (btw, I thought it was called Going Rouge..)

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/11/19/DDHJ1AMAC3.DTL

Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on November 20, 2009, 09:37:35 AM
Green Apple Books on Clement Street is donating all of its profits from sales of Sarah Palin's "Going Rogue" to a pro-environment group that helps save Alaskan wolves from being hunted from planes. LOL!


a few Bay Area independent bookstores will not carry her book.  (btw, I thought it was called Going Rouge..)


there actually *is* a book called Going Rouge -- similar cover, a collection of articles about her by various bloggers. Clever gambit.

(http://a11news.com/images/sarah-palin-going-rouge.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: mshray on November 29, 2009, 05:16:15 PM
Poll: Limbaugh is most influential conservative

(AP) – By a wide margin, Americans consider Rush Limbaugh the nation's most influential conservative voice.

Those are the results of a poll conducted by "60 Minutes" and Vanity Fair magazine and issued Sunday. The radio host was picked by 26 percent of those who responded, followed by Fox News Channel's Glenn Beck at 11 percent. Actual politicians — former Vice President Dick Cheney and former vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin — were the choice of 10 percent each.


Well, good luck with that.  And just wondering, where did W land on the list?
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: SFGuy on November 29, 2009, 05:36:33 PM
Poll: Limbaugh is most influential conservative

(AP) – By a wide margin, Americans consider Rush Limbaugh the nation's most influential conservative voice.

Those are the results of a poll conducted by "60 Minutes" and Vanity Fair magazine and issued Sunday. The radio host was picked by 26 percent of those who responded, followed by Fox News Channel's Glenn Beck at 11 percent. Actual politicians — former Vice President Dick Cheney and former vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin — were the choice of 10 percent each.


Well, good luck with that.  And just wondering, where did W land on the list?

No surprise considering some GOP politicians had to apologize (when they didn't have to) when they criticized Limbaugh.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on November 30, 2009, 03:38:42 PM
Mike Huckabee's "Willie Horton moment":

http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/11/30/mike-huckabees-burden/
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: mshray on December 02, 2009, 11:07:40 AM
Mike Huckabee's "Willie Horton moment":

http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/11/30/mike-huckabees-burden/

Sounds like this should be Faux News' Willie Horton moment, not just Huckabee's
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on December 02, 2009, 11:52:46 AM
Mike Huckabee's "Willie Horton moment":

http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/11/30/mike-huckabees-burden/

Sounds like this should be Faux News' Willie Horton moment, not just Huckabee's

sadly, Roger Ailes and his bottom bitches are utterly shameless. They put Huck on O'Reilly's show for his first (and I'm guessing only) interview about it. Scumbags.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Gazoo on December 02, 2009, 08:37:30 PM
The NY State Senate is the latest governing body to say no to the civil right of gay marriage.  All the Repugs and a few Dems voted against civil rights, aided and abetted by that monstrosity known as the Catholic Church.  Bigots.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on December 04, 2009, 08:17:01 AM
The Harlem Gospel Choir decided not to sing for Glenn Beck after all -- they were supposed to be part of his "Christmas Sweater" simulcast -- when it was explained to them what an idiotic, Obama-hating scumbag he is.

http://crooksandliars.com/susie-madrak/after-learning-more-about-glen-beck-h
Title: Oh please, oh please, oh please
Post by: urth on December 30, 2009, 07:49:44 PM
I try not to wish ill will on anyone, but I'm willing to make an exception in this case:

Report: Rush Limbaugh taken to Hawaii hospital
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2009/12/30/national/a190226S46.DTL&tsp=1
Title: Re: Oh please, oh please, oh please
Post by: ggould on December 30, 2009, 10:17:05 PM
I try not to wish ill will on anyone, but I'm willing to make an exception in this case:

Report: Rush Limbaugh taken to Hawaii hospital
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2009/12/30/national/a190226S46.DTL&tsp=1
I certainly wouldn't cheer in public, as some have done when hearing the news, but my first reaction was definitely not one of sadness.
Title: Re: Oh please, oh please, oh please
Post by: SFGuy on December 31, 2009, 02:22:53 AM
I try not to wish ill will on anyone, but I'm willing to make an exception in this case:

Report: Rush Limbaugh taken to Hawaii hospital
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2009/12/30/national/a190226S46.DTL&tsp=1

A little interesting he falls ill in Obama's adopted state.
Title: Re: Oh please, oh please, oh please
Post by: ggould on December 31, 2009, 08:40:04 AM
I try not to wish ill will on anyone, but I'm willing to make an exception in this case:

Report: Rush Limbaugh taken to Hawaii hospital
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2009/12/30/national/a190226S46.DTL&tsp=1

A little interesting he falls ill in Obama's adopted state.
especially after some conservatives criticized Obama for vacationing in a place that doesn't look very American
Title: Re: Oh please, oh please, oh please
Post by: SFGuy on January 02, 2010, 01:15:46 AM
I try not to wish ill will on anyone, but I'm willing to make an exception in this case:

Report: Rush Limbaugh taken to Hawaii hospital
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2009/12/30/national/a190226S46.DTL&tsp=1

UPDATE: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2009/12/30/national/a190226S46.DTL

Is it wrong that I'm a little disappointed that he is OK? As most here know, I'm no liberal and I hate the guy.
Title: Re: Oh please, oh please, oh please
Post by: RGMike on January 02, 2010, 10:40:14 AM
I try not to wish ill will on anyone, but I'm willing to make an exception in this case:

Report: Rush Limbaugh taken to Hawaii hospital
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2009/12/30/national/a190226S46.DTL&tsp=1

UPDATE: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2009/12/30/national/a190226S46.DTL

Is it wrong that I'm a little disappointed that he is OK? As most here know, I'm no liberal and I hate the guy.

LOL! I think we're all on the same page, re: Rush.  It's hilarious that he was in Hawaii, given the crap the right gives Obama for vacationing there (even tho' he actually grew up there).
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: mshray on January 11, 2010, 02:19:35 PM
McCain's campaign guru blasts Palin on 60 Minutes:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/nov05election/detail?entry_id=54990 (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/nov05election/detail?entry_id=54990)

(article contains a link to video content)
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Tinka Cat on January 11, 2010, 05:52:12 PM
Palin IS a Fox after all

Sarah Palin takes Fox News commentator job
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2010/01/11/national/a121026S71.DTL

Sarah Palin to join Fox News, gains official wingnut status
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/abraham/detail?entry_id=55023
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Gazoo on January 11, 2010, 11:36:29 PM
McCain's campaign guru blasts Palin on 60 Minutes:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/nov05election/detail?entry_id=54990 (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/nov05election/detail?entry_id=54990)

(article contains a link to video content)

Time's Mark Halperin - whom I frankly don't have great respect for, as he's one of the worst examples of media turning politics into horse races - has a book out this week, Game Change, that furthers the blasting:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/01/11/game-change-book-intervie_n_418305.html
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on January 13, 2010, 12:50:30 PM
To no one's surprise, Pat Robertson says Haiti deserved their earthquake because they "made a pact with the devil".

http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/201001130024
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: SFGuy on January 15, 2010, 08:59:43 PM
Add Rush Limbaugh to the idiots list about Haiti. Even conservatives Pat Buchanan and Joe Scarborough thought it was horrible.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0110/31502.html
Title: Corporations have just been given the golden key to our system
Post by: ggould on January 21, 2010, 08:02:04 AM
As if they didn't have enough power already, campaign limits on corporations have been lifted:

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=122805666
Title: Re: Corporations have just been given the golden key to our system
Post by: Gazoo on January 21, 2010, 10:11:05 AM
As if they didn't have enough power already, campaign limits on corporations have been lifted:

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=122805666

You've nailed it.  Everyday citizens don't mean shit in our political structure.
Title: Re: Corporations have just been given the golden key to our system
Post by: urth on January 21, 2010, 10:33:14 AM
As if they didn't have enough power already, campaign limits on corporations have been lifted:

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=122805666

You've nailed it.  Everyday citizens don't mean shit in our political structure.

The right wing tide just does not stop. The left must recognize this and start trying to circumvent them at every opportunity. Now the repugs are exploiting their majority on the supreme court to further their agenda, that being the one branch of government where they hold an advantage right now.
Title: Re: Corporations have just been given the golden key to our system
Post by: RGMike on January 21, 2010, 02:58:35 PM
As if they didn't have enough power already, campaign limits on corporations have been lifted:

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=122805666

You've nailed it.  Everyday citizens don't mean shit in our political structure.

The right wing tide just does not stop. The left must recognize this and start trying to circumvent them at every opportunity. Now the repugs are exploiting their majority on the supreme court to further their agenda, that being the one branch of government where they hold an advantage right now.

"Someone always playing
Corporation games
Who cares, they're always changing
Corporation names"
Title: Re: Corporations have just been given the golden key to our system
Post by: Tinka Cat on January 21, 2010, 03:41:09 PM
As if they didn't have enough power already, campaign limits on corporations have been lifted:

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=122805666

You've nailed it.  Everyday citizens don't mean shit in our political structure.

The right wing tide just does not stop. The left must recognize this and start trying to circumvent them at every opportunity. Now the repugs are exploiting their majority on the supreme court to further their agenda, that being the one branch of government where they hold an advantage right now.

"Someone always playing
Corporation games
Who cares, they're always changing
Corporation names"

let's not forget that this also allows any entity, including unions, to contribute as much as they want. Either way, it means more big money in elections and less real meaningful representation for the regular citizen, as Gaz says.

Campaign finance will not happen as long as politicians are in office!
Title: Re: Corporations have just been given the golden key to our system
Post by: SFGuy on January 21, 2010, 09:40:59 PM
As if they didn't have enough power already, campaign limits on corporations have been lifted:

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=122805666

You've nailed it.  Everyday citizens don't mean shit in our political structure.

No one should be surprised about this. With minor exceptions, both parties have failed our country.
Title: Re: Corporations have just been given the golden key to our system
Post by: Tinka Cat on January 21, 2010, 11:30:55 PM
As if they didn't have enough power already, campaign limits on corporations have been lifted:

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=122805666

You've nailed it.  Everyday citizens don't mean shit in our political structure.

No one should be surprised about this. With minor exceptions, both parties have failed our country.


discouraging thing is this ruling came from one of the entities that is supposed to provide a "check and balance" to the politization that the other two branches are allowed  -- or expected  -- engage in.   Of course, the member of the SCOTUS are nominated by the two parties, so there you go. 

This discussion should be in a new thread called "Rant and Rave about the GOPs, the Dems and the American Political System Overall".  For those who think that it's just the Right Wing that swims in big money, check out this site:  http://www.opensecrets.org/
Title: The wingnuts are coming, the wingnuts are coming
Post by: urth on January 27, 2010, 11:59:39 AM
Everyone's favorite bunch of antisemitic uber-fundie assholes, the Westboro Baptist Church, are making a two-day swing thru the bay area today and tomorrow, picketing mostly Jewish institutions:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/scavenger/detail?entry_id=56122&tsp=1

Title: Re: The wingnuts are coming, the wingnuts are coming
Post by: Tinka Cat on January 27, 2010, 12:51:52 PM
Everyone's favorite bunch of antisemitic uber-fundie assholes, the Westboro Baptist Church, are making a two-day swing thru the bay area today and tomorrow, picketing mostly Jewish institutions:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/scavenger/detail?entry_id=56122&tsp=1


makes sense they decided to show up during the run of SF Sketchfest
http://www.sfsketchfest.com/home/

how freakin' hilarious these charmers are...
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on January 29, 2010, 09:55:35 AM
A little good news amidst the mayhem: the killer of abortion doc George Tiller has been convicted of first-degree murder. Only took the jury 37 minutes! 

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2010/01/28/national/a145848S92.DTL&tsp=1
Title: Re: The wingnuts are coming, the wingnuts are coming
Post by: RGMike on January 29, 2010, 03:47:11 PM
Everyone's favorite bunch of antisemitic uber-fundie assholes, the Westboro Baptist Church, are making a two-day swing thru the bay area today and tomorrow, picketing mostly Jewish institutions:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/scavenger/detail?entry_id=56122&tsp=1


makes sense they decided to show up during the run of SF Sketchfest
http://www.sfsketchfest.com/home/

how freakin' hilarious these charmers are...

UPDATE: counter protesters! Yay! (love the "Jesus had 2 dads" sign)

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/scavenger/detail?entry_id=56122
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on February 03, 2010, 08:37:16 AM
Joe Walsh vs. Joe Walsh:

http://www.suntimes.com/news/elections/2016543,CST-NWS-joewalsh28.article
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on February 03, 2010, 11:31:11 AM
Gil Gross of KGO is a Facebook friend of mine -- we worked together at ABC 20 years ago. He posted this as his FB status today:

"John McCain, who was OK with Gays in the military, now isn't. So does this mean John goes both ways?"
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on February 10, 2010, 08:26:16 AM
Leslie Griffith on the Comacst/AT&T/NBC merger.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/griffith/detail?entry_id=56950
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: mshray on February 10, 2010, 08:46:03 AM
wow, I never would have guessed from her on-air persona that LG harbored anything like these convictions.  She just shot way up in my estimation.

..and am I the only one who thinks her photo looks a lot like latter day Joanna Kerns (last seen as Alison's mom in Knocked Up)?

(http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTIwNDEzOTAwOF5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTYwNjM2OTg1._V1._CR0,0,277,277_SS90_.jpg)

(http://imgs.sfgate.com/graphics/blogs/luminaries/griffith.jpg)
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: urth on February 10, 2010, 09:50:00 AM
wow, I never would have guessed from her on-air persona that LG harbored anything like these convictions.  She just shot way up in my estimation.

..and am I the only one who thinks her photo looks a lot like latter day Joanna Kerns (last seen as Alison's mom in Knocked Up)?

(http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTIwNDEzOTAwOF5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTYwNjM2OTg1._V1._CR0,0,277,277_SS90_.jpg)


She doesn't blog frequently but when she has she generally swings way to the left.

Kinda sad how at least 3 or 4 of the 9 blog comments comment on the length of the piece, and how it's too long for them to read. Jeez, people, just how long is your attention span anyway?
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Tinka Cat on February 10, 2010, 10:34:18 AM
wow, I never would have guessed from her on-air persona that LG harbored anything like these convictions.  She just shot way up in my estimation.

..and am I the only one who thinks her photo looks a lot like latter day Joanna Kerns (last seen as Alison's mom in Knocked Up)?

(http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTIwNDEzOTAwOF5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTYwNjM2OTg1._V1._CR0,0,277,277_SS90_.jpg)


She doesn't blog frequently but when she has she generally swings way to the left.

Kinda sad how at least 3 or 4 of the 9 blog comments comment on the length of the piece, and how it's too long for them to read. Jeez, people, just how long is your attention span anyway?

heads up: she'll have another piece on Sarah Palin later today..


she could be briefer, IMHO, but you are so right that people don't like to read anything longer than 140 characters. 

"I would have written less, but I ran out of time."
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Wayback on February 11, 2010, 10:17:27 PM
Various events being planned for Reagan Centennial next Feb 6:
http://www.latimes.com/news/nation-and-world/la-na-reagan-birthday6-2010feb06,0,7967951.story
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on February 12, 2010, 07:29:00 AM
Various events being planned for Reagan Centennial next Feb 6:
http://www.latimes.com/news/nation-and-world/la-na-reagan-birthday6-2010feb06,0,7967951.story

the Daily Show did a great bit about how this weekend we had Reagan's Birthday, the Super Bowl and the Tea Party Convention all at once -- "it's an AMERIGASM!"
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: ggould on February 12, 2010, 08:10:31 AM
Various events being planned for Reagan Centennial next Feb 6:
http://www.latimes.com/news/nation-and-world/la-na-reagan-birthday6-2010feb06,0,7967951.story
I wonder if anyone will organize counter-celebrations.  Reagan caused so much harm to this country.  I can't bear all this fake mythology.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Gazoo on February 12, 2010, 10:01:33 AM
Various events being planned for Reagan Centennial next Feb 6:
http://www.latimes.com/news/nation-and-world/la-na-reagan-birthday6-2010feb06,0,7967951.story
I wonder if anyone will organize counter-celebrations.  Reagan caused so much harm to this country.  I can't bear all this fake mythology.

Geoff FTW.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on February 18, 2010, 11:13:43 AM
Anti-tax nutjob burns down his house, then flies a plane into IRS offices in Texas:

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/chronicle/6873108.html?tsp=1

Looking forward to

1) watching the teabaggers and Faux News try to spin this as not being "domestic terorism" or in any way connected to their anti-gov't hysteria

2) watching MSNBC being equally hysterical in re: (1) above.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: ggould on February 18, 2010, 02:20:59 PM
Anti-tax nutjob burns down his house, then flies a plane into IRS offices in Texas:

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/chronicle/6873108.html?tsp=1

Looking forward to

1) watching the teabaggers and Faux News try to spin this as not being "domestic terorism" or in any way connected to their anti-gov't hysteria

2) watching MSNBC being equally hysterical in re: (1) above.
Gee, flying a plane into a government building?  No way is this terrorism, or so says Austin police!
 ;)
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on February 18, 2010, 08:16:10 PM
New MA Senator Scott Brown is asked about the IRS plane crasher and say, well gee, nobody likes paying taxes...

http://thinkprogress.org/2010/02/18/scott-brown-terrorism-yawn/
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on February 23, 2010, 08:48:14 AM
Larry Grogan of the Funky 16 Corners blog, got into an argument on his FB page with some right winger, re: teachers who are protesting NJ's pay freeze. Quote of the Day, from Larry:

"Right wing hostility toward teachers is one of the strangest phenomena I've ever seen. Is it a Freudian revenge fantasy for perceived slights in childhood, or just a calculated attempt to keep the masses ignorant? I suspect it's a little bit of both. I'm also continually shocked that anyone with an ounce of artistic impulse would ally themselves with the organized forces of ignorance."
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on March 05, 2010, 07:31:33 AM
Roy Ashburn, the anti-gay GOP State Senator who was arrested for DUI, may or may noy have been at a gay bar before his arrest:

http://www.advocate.com/News/Daily_News/2010/03/05/Was_Senator_at_Gay_Bar_Before_DUI/

He sure looks like a mincing queen to me.  ;)  How come ugly closeted guys get laid more often than I do?
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on March 05, 2010, 08:48:07 AM
another great Bill Maher op-ed:

http://www.variety.com/index.asp?layout=awardcentral&jump=news&articleid=VR1118016081

(I assume a shorter version of this will be part of "New Rules" tonight)
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on March 05, 2010, 02:52:41 PM
Roy Ashburn, the anti-gay GOP State Senator who was arrested for DUI, may or may noy have been at a gay bar before his arrest:

http://www.advocate.com/News/Daily_News/2010/03/05/Was_Senator_at_Gay_Bar_Before_DUI/

He sure looks like a mincing queen to me.  ;)  How come ugly closeted guys get laid more often than I do?

great line in the comments section for the Ashburn story on SFGate:

"He's so far in the closet he's finding Christmas Presents!"

Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: urth on March 08, 2010, 10:51:22 AM
Roy Ashburn, the anti-gay GOP State Senator who was arrested for DUI, may or may noy have been at a gay bar before his arrest:

http://www.advocate.com/News/Daily_News/2010/03/05/Was_Senator_at_Gay_Bar_Before_DUI/

He sure looks like a mincing queen to me.  ;)  How come ugly closeted guys get laid more often than I do?

great line in the comments section for the Ashburn story on SFGate:

"He's so far in the closet he's finding Christmas Presents!"



He was, but not any more.  Ashburn announced this morning, "I am gay."
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/nov05election/detail?blogid=14&entry_id=58665&tsp=1

Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on March 08, 2010, 11:33:50 AM
Roy Ashburn, the anti-gay GOP State Senator who was arrested for DUI, may or may noy have been at a gay bar before his arrest:

http://www.advocate.com/News/Daily_News/2010/03/05/Was_Senator_at_Gay_Bar_Before_DUI/

He sure looks like a mincing queen to me.  ;)  How come ugly closeted guys get laid more often than I do?

great line in the comments section for the Ashburn story on SFGate:

"He's so far in the closet he's finding Christmas Presents!"



He was, but not any more.  Ashburn announced this morning, "I am gay."
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/nov05election/detail?blogid=14&entry_id=58665&tsp=1


and he's a double hypocrite: he also has an anti-immigrant voting record, but he was at that disco on "Latino Drag Queen Nite" and the guy in the car with him? You guessed it!  What can brown do for him?
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: SFGuy on March 08, 2010, 09:20:53 PM
Roy Ashburn, the anti-gay GOP State Senator who was arrested for DUI, may or may noy have been at a gay bar before his arrest:

http://www.advocate.com/News/Daily_News/2010/03/05/Was_Senator_at_Gay_Bar_Before_DUI/

He sure looks like a mincing queen to me.  ;)  How come ugly closeted guys get laid more often than I do?

great line in the comments section for the Ashburn story on SFGate:

"He's so far in the closet he's finding Christmas Presents!"



He was, but not any more.  Ashburn announced this morning, "I am gay."
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/nov05election/detail?blogid=14&entry_id=58665&tsp=1



At least he's not like others in politics who continuously deny they are gay to this day.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on March 10, 2010, 09:46:20 AM
Great response from a Jesuit to Glenn Beck's absurd "social justice is a CommuNazi plot" rant last week:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rev-james-martin-sj/glenn-beck-to-catholics-l_b_490669.html
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on March 11, 2010, 08:13:33 PM
I was a little behind on the mind-boggling Eric Massa brouhaha, but you can get caught up with this hilarious Daily Show clip:

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-march-10-2010/sour-gropes
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: mshray on March 19, 2010, 09:57:30 AM
I didn't previously know about this revising of history in Texas, but Mark Morford has it covered.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2010/03/17/notes031710.DTL&sfgabt=ttmabta (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2010/03/17/notes031710.DTL&sfgabt=ttmabta)
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on March 19, 2010, 10:34:55 AM
I didn't previously know about this revising of history in Texas, but Mark Morford has it covered.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2010/03/17/notes031710.DTL&sfgabt=ttmabta (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2010/03/17/notes031710.DTL&sfgabt=ttmabta)

Jon Sewart skewered them nicely the other nite:

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-march-17-2010/don-t-mess-with-textbooks
Title: the health care vote
Post by: ggould on March 21, 2010, 10:02:20 PM
pretty disgusting GOP behavior.  I was screaming obscenities at the TV!
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on March 24, 2010, 02:15:54 PM
a friend posted this on FB: someone finally tells Tim Tebow to shut the f--k up!

http://blogs.suntimes.com/sportsprose/2010/03/tim_tebows_pre-wonderlic_praye.html
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Gazoo on March 24, 2010, 09:32:29 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/23/schoolhouse-rock-gets-bid_n_510537.html
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on March 24, 2010, 09:34:47 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/23/schoolhouse-rock-gets-bid_n_510537.html

I posted this today in the "we're all gonna rock to the rules etc" thread
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Gazoo on March 24, 2010, 09:43:17 PM
David Shuster's spot-on here:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/24/david-shuster-pleas-with_n_512342.html
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Gazoo on March 24, 2010, 09:44:00 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/23/schoolhouse-rock-gets-bid_n_510537.html

I posted this today in the "we're all gonna rock to the rules etc" thread

Ha, that's what I get for not catching up on threads before posting!
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: urth on March 30, 2010, 03:48:47 PM
Now Palin is encouraging teabaggers to accost people with Obama stickers on their cars and ask them "How's that hopey-changey thing working out for ya?"  A whole lot better than that "war on terror/WMD" thing did, hon, that's for sure.

Is she trying to start fights? There's a lot of teabaggers that are going to get an earful, if they don't get their nose broken first.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Gazoo on March 31, 2010, 10:14:04 AM
Now Palin is encouraging teabaggers to accost people with Obama stickers on their cars and ask them "How's that hopey-changey thing working out for ya?"  A whole lot better than that "war on terror/WMD" thing did, hon, that's for sure.

Is she trying to start fights? There's a lot of teabaggers that are going to get an earful, if they don't get their nose broken first.
Among the many things that bother me about that is her phrase "hopey-changey."  What is she, a fucking INFANT?
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: mshray on March 31, 2010, 01:55:28 PM

What is she, a fucking INFANT?

You almost make that sound like it's not a rhetorical question.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on April 03, 2010, 09:41:16 PM
Hippocratic Oath? What's that?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/04/02/jack-cassell-doctor-refus_n_523076.html
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: SFGuy on April 04, 2010, 09:47:22 PM
Even though I hate Glenn Beck and Rush (both of them), I sometimes feel I don't belong here due to the love for Mark Morford, Keith Olbermann and others, whom I absolutely hate. I think everything they write and say is quite irritating.

On a side: I was watching McLaughlin Group and Pat Buchanan said the Iraq war was a failure (him and Eleanor Clift were on the same side for once) due to a number of things including the deaths of 100,000 Iraqis, although he was one of the few conservatives who was against the war from the beginning.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Tinka Cat on April 05, 2010, 10:36:24 AM
Even though I hate Glenn Beck and Rush (both of them), I sometimes feel I don't belong here due to the love for Mark Morford, Keith Olbermann and others, whom I absolutely hate. I think everything they write and say is quite irritating.

On a side: I was watching McLaughlin Group and Pat Buchanan said the Iraq war was a failure (him and Eleanor Clift were on the same side for once) due to a number of things including the deaths of 100,000 Iraqis, although he was one of the few conservatives who was against the war from the beginning.

FWIW, I can't read Mark's columns.  Sometimes I read the first few sentences and then I know the rest of it anyway.  I mean, Jesus with pink fur nipple clamps, he can be a one-note pony!!
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: mshray on April 08, 2010, 09:16:44 PM
not precisely Right-wing, but I strongly encourage everyone to get behind the Boycott of Valero (http://act.credoaction.com/campaign/valero_boycott_ceo_2/?rc=courage_040510_ceo).  Reminds me of the kind of Texan shit we had to put up with from Enron 9 years ago.

Mike, if you haven't already, would you consider getting this on your Facebook?


(http://www.couragecampaign.org/page/-/boycott_valero_160.gif)
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on April 08, 2010, 09:39:40 PM
not precisely Right-wing, but I strongly encourage everyone to get behind the Boycott of Valero (http://act.credoaction.com/campaign/valero_boycott_ceo_2/?rc=courage_040510_ceo).  Reminds me of the kind of Texan shit we had to put up with from Enron 9 years ago.

Mike, if you haven't already, would you consider getting this on your Facebook?



Done!
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: ggould on April 09, 2010, 06:42:44 AM
not precisely Right-wing, but I strongly encourage everyone to get behind the Boycott of Valero (http://act.credoaction.com/campaign/valero_boycott_ceo_2/?rc=courage_040510_ceo).  Reminds me of the kind of Texan shit we had to put up with from Enron 9 years ago.

Mike, if you haven't already, would you consider getting this on your Facebook?
Done!

I FB'ed it on Monday, but it is already scrolled into history.  Seems like multiiple evil initiatives this time.  Mercury Insurance is sponsoring one about auto insurance, and some Howard Jarvis types are trying to pass another initiative bottleneck about a 2/3 majority needed for public power issues.  Ugh.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: ggould on April 09, 2010, 08:30:23 AM
Prop 16:

http://ballotpedia.org/wiki/index.php/California_Proposition_16_(June_2010)

Prop 17:

http://ballotpedia.org/wiki/index.php/California_Proposition_17_(June_2010)
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on May 21, 2010, 08:26:37 AM
let's talk Rand Paul, shall we?

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2010/05/21/2324667.aspx

and now he's defending BP... er, seriously?

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2010/05/21/politics/p052550D75.DTL&tsp=1

I said this on FB but I'll repeat it here: Paul shines a light on the dark underbelly of libertarianism. A lot of lefties I know tend to give libertarians the benefit of the doubt ("hey, they're for keeping gov't out of the bedroom", etc). But Mr. Paul has painted himself into a nasty lilttle corner -- all on national TV.  Gonna be an interesting 6 months in Kentucky.

Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: ggould on May 22, 2010, 10:24:13 PM
let's talk Rand Paul, shall we?

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2010/05/21/2324667.aspx

and now he's defending BP... er, seriously?

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2010/05/21/politics/p052550D75.DTL&tsp=1

I said this on FB but I'll repeat it here: Paul shines a light on the dark underbelly of libertarianism. A lot of lefties I know tend to give libertarians the benefit of the doubt ("hey, they're for keeping gov't out of the bedroom", etc). But Mr. Paul has painted himself into a nasty lilttle corner -- all on national TV.  Gonna be an interesting 6 months in Kentucky.


And our lovely Rachel nailed him!
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: SFGuy on May 23, 2010, 01:24:54 AM
let's talk Rand Paul, shall we?

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2010/05/21/2324667.aspx

and now he's defending BP... er, seriously?

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2010/05/21/politics/p052550D75.DTL&tsp=1

I said this on FB but I'll repeat it here: Paul shines a light on the dark underbelly of libertarianism. A lot of lefties I know tend to give libertarians the benefit of the doubt ("hey, they're for keeping gov't out of the bedroom", etc). But Mr. Paul has painted himself into a nasty lilttle corner -- all on national TV.  Gonna be an interesting 6 months in Kentucky.


And our lovely Rachel nailed him!

Rachel Maddow is the only lefty (actually either side) I respect because she's fair unlike any of the others. I'm a moderate (but would probably be considered right wing due to some of you being on the very liberal politically) and I tend to hate most of the MSNBC, CNN and FOX garbage.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Gazoo on June 11, 2010, 09:06:29 AM
Grr.  An old friend of mine from the college days - the only other guy who was out of the closet on campus - just posted the Facebook update that he and his partner, who have been foster parents for a few years, were just informed by their county that because of their orientation, they will no longer be considered for placement except in last-ditch cases.

Some days, I really despise people.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on June 11, 2010, 09:13:08 AM
Grr.  An old friend of mine from the college days - the only other guy who was out of the closet on campus - just posted the Facebook update that he and his partner, who have been foster parents for a few years, were just informed by their county that because of their orientation, they will no longer be considered for placement except in last-ditch cases.

Some days, I really despise people.

indeed. Where do they live?
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Gazoo on June 11, 2010, 10:04:51 AM
Grr.  An old friend of mine from the college days - the only other guy who was out of the closet on campus - just posted the Facebook update that he and his partner, who have been foster parents for a few years, were just informed by their county that because of their orientation, they will no longer be considered for placement except in last-ditch cases.

Some days, I really despise people.

indeed. Where do they live?

Cincinnati area.  ("Loveland," ironically enough.)
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Tinka Cat on June 11, 2010, 01:50:06 PM
Grr.  An old friend of mine from the college days - the only other guy who was out of the closet on campus - just posted the Facebook update that he and his partner, who have been foster parents for a few years, were just informed by their county that because of their orientation, they will no longer be considered for placement except in last-ditch cases.

Some days, I really despise people.

indeed. Where do they live?

Cincinnati area.  ("Loveland," ironically enough.)

that's like right next to Kentucky, right?  remember the brou-ha-ha over the Piss Christ and Mapplethorpe art stuff in the 80s that happened in Cincy?
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on June 11, 2010, 03:50:15 PM
Grr.  An old friend of mine from the college days - the only other guy who was out of the closet on campus - just posted the Facebook update that he and his partner, who have been foster parents for a few years, were just informed by their county that because of their orientation, they will no longer be considered for placement except in last-ditch cases.

Some days, I really despise people.

indeed. Where do they live?

Cincinnati area.  ("Loveland," ironically enough.)

that's like right next to Kentucky, right?  remember the brou-ha-ha over the Piss Christ and Mapplethorpe art stuff in the 80s that happened in Cincy?

I remember driving thru southern Ohio 20 years ago -- I thought I was in the South. You even hear southern-y accents.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on June 17, 2010, 11:40:25 AM
Dear gawd! Are these no-nothing, anti-gov't types INSANE? (yeah, rhetorical question)  They hate gov't, they say it's "too big". Then they complain when it doesn't, y'know, HELP them in a crisis. Then they fucking APOLOGIZE to the corporate scumbags who CAUSED the crisis??  Rep. Joe Barton (R) of Texas -- you are a moron.  Seriously, Olbermann said the other nite that all the Dems need to do between now and November is run an endless loop of all the Repugs defending BP,  and I completely agree with him.
 
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2010/06/15/national/w133925D27.DTL
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: SFGuy on June 18, 2010, 02:58:42 AM
Dear gawd! Are these no-nothing, anti-gov't types INSANE? (yeah, rhetorical question)  They hate gov't, they say it's "too big". Then they complain when it doesn't, y'know, HELP them in a crisis. Then they fucking APOLOGIZE to the corporate scumbags who CAUSED the crisis??  Rep. Joe Barton (R) of Texas -- you are a moron.  Seriously, Olbermann said the other nite that all the Dems need to do between now and November is run an endless loop of all the Repugs defending BP,  and I completely agree with him.
 
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2010/06/15/national/w133925D27.DTL

In fairness, other Republicans were fuming when he did this.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on June 18, 2010, 07:24:44 AM
Dear gawd! Are these no-nothing, anti-gov't types INSANE? (yeah, rhetorical question)  They hate gov't, they say it's "too big". Then they complain when it doesn't, y'know, HELP them in a crisis. Then they fucking APOLOGIZE to the corporate scumbags who CAUSED the crisis??  Rep. Joe Barton (R) of Texas -- you are a moron.  Seriously, Olbermann said the other nite that all the Dems need to do between now and November is run an endless loop of all the Repugs defending BP,  and I completely agree with him.
 
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2010/06/15/national/w133925D27.DTL

In fairness, other Republicans were fuming when he did this.

indeed, and good for them (altho' I suspect they weren't fuming because they disagreed, but because he was stupid enuf to say it in public). When you get slapped down by John "Man -Tan" Boehner, you KNOW you've fucked up. ;)
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on July 20, 2010, 08:17:02 PM
For those who don't know who Andrew Breitbart is, well... now you will.  He's a right-wing douchebag of the highest order.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0710/39990.html

Shame on him but shame on the NAACP for being so quick to believe him.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on July 21, 2010, 08:14:49 AM
For those who don't know who Andrew Breitbart is, well... now you will.  He's a right-wing douchebag of the highest order.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0710/39990.html

Shame on him but shame on the NAACP for being so quick to believe him.

and one of the better analyses I've see of the whole affair. Worth your time

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2010/07/21/4721605-first-thoughts-snookered
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on July 30, 2010, 08:51:07 AM
utterly horrifying:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atbx0JvMCx8&feature=popular
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on August 11, 2010, 03:53:23 PM
From the "Acorn Doesn't fall far From The Tree" Dept (aka the "Entitled GOP Douchebags" Dept)... is it me or does Ben Quayle (Yes, son of Dan) seem to be trying to channel Don Draper here?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4jiqYcUoOk&feature=player_embedded

At least Jon Hamm can actuallly, y'know, act.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Tinka Cat on August 11, 2010, 04:18:13 PM
From the "Acorn Doesn't fall far From The Tree" Dept (aka the "Entitled GOP Douchebags" Dept)... is it me or does Ben Quayle (Yes, son of Dan) seem to be trying to channel Don Draper here?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4jiqYcUoOk&feature=player_embedded

At least Jon Hamm can actuallly, y'know, act.

oh my... yes, this kid has absorbed too much TV.  Good call on the attempt at Don Draper gravitas.  We can also throw in the in-your-face outrageous sound bite (such as it is - although "I love Arizona -- I was raised right" seems more non-sequitur than anything). 

It's like he's auditioning for a reality TV show called "Who Wants To Be A Tea Party Politician?" or "So You Think You Can Legislate?" 

Maybe it's called "Are You Smarter Than Your Father ..  And While We're Asking, Is He Smarter Than A Fifth Grader?"
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: ggould on August 20, 2010, 08:17:51 PM
(http://img.myconfinedspace.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/I-fucked-you-all-but-thanks-for-blaming-it-on-the-black-guy-566x700.jpg)
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on August 20, 2010, 08:46:20 PM
Geoff, that is genius!
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: ggould on August 20, 2010, 09:03:08 PM
Geoff, that is genius!
I can't take credit, but it's pretty good.  Do you think it's too profane to post on facebook?
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on August 20, 2010, 09:33:33 PM
Geoff, that is genius!
I can't take credit, but it's pretty good.  Do you think it's too profane to post on facebook?

no... in fact, I already have! (but then I'm not a teacher)
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on August 28, 2010, 10:37:34 PM
Sad to say Tony LaRussa and Albert Pujols fell for Glenn Beck's malarkey...

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2010/08/28/national/w091914D50.DTL

Best line of the day, from FB-friend and "Funky 16 Corners" proprietor Larry Grogan:  "The Glenn Beck rally is for people who saw a sign that said 'Free Black People' and thought it meant that they each got one of their own."
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Gazoo on August 29, 2010, 12:29:04 PM
Sad to say Tony LaRussa and Albert Pujols fell for Glenn Beck's malarkey...

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2010/08/28/national/w091914D50.DTL

Best line of the day, from FB-friend and "Funky 16 Corners" proprietor Larry Grogan:  "The Glenn Beck rally is for people who saw a sign that said 'Free Black People' and thought it meant that they each got one of their own."

Grogan's a right-on mofo.

Interested to hear the final crowd estimate; early ones have varied wildly.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on September 02, 2010, 09:22:15 PM
Sad to say Tony LaRussa and Albert Pujols fell for Glenn Beck's malarkey...

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2010/08/28/national/w091914D50.DTL


Interesting to note (as I already have on FB) that the Cardinals have lost 5 straight games since LaRussa and Pujols appeared at Beck's shindig. Hrm.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: SFGuy on September 03, 2010, 03:43:02 AM
Sad to say Tony LaRussa and Albert Pujols fell for Glenn Beck's malarkey...

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2010/08/28/national/w091914D50.DTL


Interesting to note (as I already have on FB) that the Cardinals have lost 5 straight games since LaRussa and Pujols appeared at Beck's shindig. Hrm.

Let's be honest: they appeared at Glenn Beck's Nazi rally. (as most know, I'm not close to being liberal. I'm probably the most conservative person on this board, though not right-wing)
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: ggould on September 05, 2010, 05:33:31 PM
Sad to say Tony LaRussa and Albert Pujols fell for Glenn Beck's malarkey...

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2010/08/28/national/w091914D50.DTL


Interesting to note (as I already have on FB) that the Cardinals have lost 5 straight games since LaRussa and Pujols appeared at Beck's shindig. Hrm.

Let's be honest: they appeared at Glenn Beck's Nazi rally. (as most know, I'm not close to being liberal. I'm probably the most conservative person on this board, though not right-wing)
I guess we can all agree about Glenn Beck.  But it's funny how some of my facebook friends 'like' Sarah Palin and Glenn Beck.    Weird.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Wayback on September 06, 2010, 02:15:57 PM
I'm so tired of the onslaught of Meg Whitman ads.  Here's Jerry Brown's new ad:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plWquvOBt5A
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on September 06, 2010, 04:30:10 PM
I'm so tired of the onslaught of Meg Whitman ads.  Here's Jerry Brown's new ad:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plWquvOBt5A

I'm quite worried. I think Boxer can fend off Carly Fee-Arena (that "I want to overturn Roe v Wade" soundbite *ought* to seal Carly's doom, at any rate), but Jerry really needs to kick it up a notch or twelve.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: ggould on September 06, 2010, 10:14:13 PM
I'm so tired of the onslaught of Meg Whitman ads.  Here's Jerry Brown's new ad:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plWquvOBt5A

I'm quite worried. I think Boxer can fend off Carly Fee-Arena (that "I want to overturn Roe v Wade" soundbite *ought* to seal Carly's doom, at any rate), but Jerry really needs to kick it up a notch or twelve.
I'm hoping Jerry's just being cagey.  No way you can counterpunch an endless supply of paid political announcements.  Perhaps it's smart to just wait until the last part of the campaign (that would be now!) to get going.  With the public's short term memory, much of the early effort is just wasted.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Tinka Cat on September 07, 2010, 04:43:26 PM
Obama channels Hendrix on critics: ‘They talk about me like a dog’

http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_upshot/20100907/el_yblog_upshot/obama-channels-hendrix-on-critics-they-talk-about-me-like-a-dog
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on September 07, 2010, 07:46:35 PM
Obama channels Hendrix on critics: ‘They talk about me like a dog’

http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_upshot/20100907/el_yblog_upshot/obama-channels-hendrix-on-critics-they-talk-about-me-like-a-dog

White collared conservative flashing down the street
Pointing their plastic finger at me.
They're hoping soon my kind will drop and die,
But I'm gonna wave my freak flag high
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: ggould on September 08, 2010, 07:37:46 PM
(http://imvotingteaparty.com/img300/gaysvote.png)

http://imvotingteaparty.com/
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: urth on September 08, 2010, 08:50:07 PM
(http://imvotingteaparty.com/img300/gaysvote.png)

http://imvotingteaparty.com/

Oh yeah? I'll see that and raise you

(http://imvotingteaparty.com/img300/bornmordor.png)
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on September 13, 2010, 07:55:49 AM
a fine Jon Carroll piece today:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/09/13/DDLJ1FBTNP.DTL
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on September 13, 2010, 12:12:53 PM
a fine Jon Carroll piece today:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/09/13/DDLJ1FBTNP.DTL

and speaking of crazy: GOP candidate in Wash state sez the Girl Scouts are evil:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfmoms/detail?entry_id=72169&tsp=1
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on September 15, 2010, 11:08:03 AM
The Onion, dead-on as always:

http://www.theonion.com/articles/nation-once-again-comes-under-sway-of-pinkfaced-ha,18076/
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on September 15, 2010, 02:16:36 PM
listening to WLNG as I do, I've heard a LOT of campaign commercials the past few weeks for the primary yesterday; mainly spots for Chris Cox, a repug wanting to run for Congress from eastern LI. He was trumpeting himself as a 'true conservative', 'pro-life', blahblahblah... turns out he is the son of Tricia Nixon Cox and grandson of ol' Tricky Dick himself.  (He lost, BTW.) He also has a slutty-looking fiancee that he began dating when she was 17 and he was 28...

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/young_goper_PW2rQiH5SWynKiIg83XsxN
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: ggould on September 15, 2010, 08:59:40 PM
listening to WLNG as I do, I've heard a LOT of campaign commercials the past few weeks for the primary yesterday; mainly spots for Chris Cox, a repug wanting to run for Congress from eastern LI. He was trumpeting himself as a 'true conservative', 'pro-life', blahblahblah... turns out he is the son of Tricia Nixon Cox and grandson of ol' Tricky Dick himself.  (He lost, BTW.) He also has a slutty-looking fiancee that he began dating when she was 17 and he was 28...

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/young_goper_PW2rQiH5SWynKiIg83XsxN
I was wondering if you were just being catty, describing her as 'slutty-looking' but I have to agree!:

(http://www.nypost.com/rw/nypost/2010/05/16/news/photos_stories/Cropped/chris_cox--300x450.jpg)
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on September 15, 2010, 09:23:13 PM
listening to WLNG as I do, I've heard a LOT of campaign commercials the past few weeks for the primary yesterday; mainly spots for Chris Cox, a repug wanting to run for Congress from eastern LI. He was trumpeting himself as a 'true conservative', 'pro-life', blahblahblah... turns out he is the son of Tricia Nixon Cox and grandson of ol' Tricky Dick himself.  (He lost, BTW.) He also has a slutty-looking fiancee that he began dating when she was 17 and he was 28...

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/young_goper_PW2rQiH5SWynKiIg83XsxN
I was wondering if you were just being catty, describing her as 'slutty-looking' but I have to agree!:


She looks like a Jersey Shore reject!
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: urth on September 15, 2010, 11:16:23 PM
I don't think it's so scandalous for a 20-year-old to dress like a slut. But a 20-year-old who's engaged to a Congressional candidate is another matter. But that might say more about his judgment than hers.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: ggould on September 17, 2010, 08:31:46 PM
Geoff, that is genius!
I can't take credit, but it's pretty good.  Do you think it's too profane to post on facebook?

no... in fact, I already have! (but then I'm not a teacher)

The PG version:
http://www.progressiverags.com/thforblblguy.html
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on September 22, 2010, 03:20:27 PM
yet another anti-gay pastor accused of sex with teenage boys.

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/2010/0922/Bishop-Eddie-Long-case-Will-it-alter-black-church-s-view-of-gays

He wrote a book called -- I'm not making this up -- Gladiator: The Strength of a Man (!) And that wasn't a CLUE??  ROTFL!
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: ggould on September 22, 2010, 08:13:31 PM
Pretty f***in' disgusting.  Filibuster on DADT ending.  The news is starting to leak out that a handful of billionaires are funding all the crazy GOP candidates through the Citizens United hole in campaign financing.  The conservative super-PACs are outspending the liberal PAC's with an overwhelming ratio. 

Damn!
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on September 25, 2010, 12:06:59 PM
yet another anti-gay pastor accused of sex with teenage boys.

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/2010/0922/Bishop-Eddie-Long-case-Will-it-alter-black-church-s-view-of-gays

He wrote a book called -- I'm not making this up -- Gladiator: The Strength of a Man (!) And that wasn't a CLUE??  ROTFL!

Bill Maher on the above idiot, last nite:

Quote
New Rule: Never let your children take an overnight trip with a holy man who wears more than two pieces of jewelry. Atlanta’s gay-bashing Bishop Eddie Long has been accused of buying cars for teenage boys, then inviting them to New Zealand and molesting them, in what authorities are calling “the worst Oprah surprise of all time.” Which leads me to: New Rule: If your minister says being gay is bad, or a sin, or an evil temptation, or has any opinion on it stronger than “who gives a shit,” your minister is GAY.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on September 28, 2010, 04:12:15 PM
Atheists score highest on quiz about religion:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_rel_religious_literacy_poll

Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Tinka Cat on September 28, 2010, 04:34:59 PM
Atheists score highest on quiz about religion:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_rel_religious_literacy_poll

The News Hour mentioned this, too.  it makes sense that those who self-id as agnostics/atheists have thought the most about the details of religions. 
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on October 01, 2010, 10:57:27 PM
and anoither great Jon Carroll quote -- after he watched the Brown/Whitman debate the other nite:

"I'd rather read position papers. They're boring, but at least they're not annoying, unless they're the ones from Meg Whitman explaining why cutting the taxes of the wealthy is such a darned good idea. Nope, nope, tried that: It does not result in job creation; it results in yacht creation."

Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on October 04, 2010, 07:48:57 AM
Donald Duck meets Glenn Beck! This is genius and well worth the 7-1/2 minutes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfuwNU0jsk0
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on October 05, 2010, 08:10:32 PM
Time to burn your Velvet Underground records?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com//2010/10/05/moe-tucker-former-velvet-_n_750838.html
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on October 07, 2010, 11:59:54 AM
A great piece on SFGate about Westboro Baptist Fag-haters:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/hleon/detail?entry_id=74031

Praise jeebus!
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: ggould on October 07, 2010, 08:53:38 PM
A great piece on SFGate about Westboro Baptist Fag-haters:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/hleon/detail?entry_id=74031

Praise jeebus!
Not sure how true, but I heard on the Stephanie Miller show this AM that the Phelps crew is full of lawyers who try to incite violence against themselves, then make a lot of money suing.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on October 13, 2010, 08:55:14 PM
Carl Paladino and "Fat Tony" on The Simpsons: separated at birth

(http://foodcourtlunch.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/fat-tony.jpg)(http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2010/10/11/alg_carl_paladino_kashou_1.jpg)
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on November 07, 2010, 02:04:09 PM
A great piece on SFGate about Westboro Baptist Fag-haters:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/hleon/detail?entry_id=74031

Praise jeebus!
Not sure how true, but I heard on the Stephanie Miller show this AM that the Phelps crew is full of lawyers who try to incite violence against themselves, then make a lot of money suing.

They're BAAAA-AAACK! The Westboro loonies will be in San Bruno tomorrow -- apparently jeebus made the gas explosion happen 'cause he hates fags.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/inthepeninsula/detail?entry_id=76539


Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on November 24, 2010, 03:36:39 PM
Tom DeLay guilty of money-laundering; faces life in prison:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2010/11/22/national/a000628S09.DTL&tsp=1

couldn't've happened to a more deserving guy!
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: urth on November 24, 2010, 03:41:23 PM
Tom DeLay guilty of money-laundering; faces life in prison:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2010/11/22/national/a000628S09.DTL&tsp=1

couldn't've happened to a more deserving guy!

Hope he gets a fitting sentence.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on November 24, 2010, 03:54:14 PM
Tom DeLay guilty of money-laundering; faces life in prison:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2010/11/22/national/a000628S09.DTL&tsp=1

couldn't've happened to a more deserving guy!

Hope he gets a fitting sentence.

he goes from "Dancing With the Stars" to, er, dancing with a big black guy named Bubba.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on November 30, 2010, 12:28:24 PM
Right-wing nutjob says TSA patdowns are part of the "Homosexual Agenda":

http://www.wusa9.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=122925

Right, because we homos think feeling-up ugly, obsese Midwestern travelers is, like, totally HAWT!
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Gazoo on December 02, 2010, 12:34:27 AM
Right-wing nutjob says TSA patdowns are part of the "Homosexual Agenda":

http://www.wusa9.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=122925

Right, because we homos think feeling-up ugly, obsese Midwestern travelers is, like, totally HAWT!

Don't ask this guy about that:
http://www.deadseriousnews.com/?p=573
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on December 02, 2010, 07:41:11 AM
Right-wing nutjob says TSA patdowns are part of the "Homosexual Agenda":

http://www.wusa9.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=122925

Right, because we homos think feeling-up ugly, obsese Midwestern travelers is, like, totally HAWT!

Don't ask this guy about that:
http://www.deadseriousnews.com/?p=573

 :o  :o  :o
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Gazoo on December 09, 2010, 10:16:50 AM
Fox propaganda at work:

http://mediamatters.org/blog/201012090003

 >:(  >:(  >:(  >:(  >:(

Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Gazoo on December 12, 2010, 10:16:44 PM
I see that one of the Madoff kids killed himself.

It's a start, I suppose.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on December 13, 2010, 07:36:06 AM
I see that one of the Madoff kids killed himself.

It's a start, I suppose.

Eat the Rich, as a metal band once sang.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on December 16, 2010, 12:21:09 PM
Pretty good takedown of John Boehner:

http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/12/15/the-tears-of-john-boehner/?src=me&ref=general
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on December 18, 2010, 04:31:32 PM
Senate votes to repeal Don't Ask/Don't Tell:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/19/us/politics/19cong.html?_r=1&hp

Dear John McCain,

Nine years ago, when you still had balls, you flew to SF and gave a lovely speech at Mark Bingham's memorial service. Today you voted against the repeal of DADT. But it passed anyway. How does it feel to have flip-flopped your way onto the wrong side of history?

Love,
Gay America
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on December 23, 2010, 08:54:35 AM
And you thought the KFOG interns were stupid...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/12/22/fox-news-elie-weisel_n_800329.html
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on January 07, 2011, 11:02:20 AM
Stephen Colbert on the size of Boehner's gavel: ‎"I think someone's compensating for his small government."

(http://www.indecisionforever.com/files/2011/01/johnboehner-gavel.jpg)
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Gazoo on January 08, 2011, 11:56:46 AM
Democratic Representative from Arizona assassinated in Tucson, along with several others:

http://www.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/01/08/arizona.shooting/index.html?hpt=T2

Lordy.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on January 08, 2011, 12:09:48 PM
Democratic Representative from Arizona assassinated in Tucson, along with several others:

http://www.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/01/08/arizona.shooting/index.html?hpt=T2

Lordy.

seriously -- I could not believe I was reading the story earlier.  She's still alive, tho', from what I've seen (undergoing surgery at this hour). Sharron "2nd Amendment solutions" Angle has blood on her hands.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: urth on January 08, 2011, 04:59:31 PM
Democratic Representative from Arizona assassinated in Tucson, along with several others:

http://www.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/01/08/arizona.shooting/index.html?hpt=T2

Lordy.

Latest word is that she has so far survived, but is in critical condition with a bullet wound to the head. However, at least 5 others were killed, including the chief judge of the U.S. District Court in Arizona and several members of her staff, as well as a 9-year-old girl.

The shooter used a 9mm handgun. Now explain to me again why private citizens need to own such high-powered armaments.  And I hope Gov. Jan Brewer isn't allowed to appoint a replacement under Arizona law--if she is, then we get one more republican in Congress.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: ggould on January 08, 2011, 11:07:29 PM
perhaps this should be in the copyedit thread, but I just saw a news item on NBC3, where the title underneath the AZ correspondent read
"Live from Tuscan, AZ"
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: SFGuy on January 09, 2011, 07:50:35 PM
Democratic Representative from Arizona assassinated in Tucson, along with several others:

http://www.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/01/08/arizona.shooting/index.html?hpt=T2

Lordy.

Latest word is that she has so far survived, but is in critical condition with a bullet wound to the head. However, at least 5 others were killed, including the chief judge of the U.S. District Court in Arizona and several members of her staff, as well as a 9-year-old girl.

The shooter used a 9mm handgun. Now explain to me again why private citizens need to own such high-powered armaments.  And I hope Gov. Jan Brewer isn't allowed to appoint a replacement under Arizona law--if she is, then we get one more republican in Congress.

I hope people can keep the rhetoric out this tragedy. Doing so is, IMO, is really disgusting. I saw this on another message board and I will nevrr go back there again. The killer is just a nut....the 9 year old girl who was killed was born on September 11, 2001. 
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: ggould on January 09, 2011, 10:55:55 PM
I agree with Rachel Maddow that it serves no good purpose at this time to speculate on the nutjob's political persuasion.  With someone that unstable, he could be coming from any direction.  Yes, Sarah Palin deserves to rot for what she's done, whether or not it directly affected the shooter's actions.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: SFGuy on January 10, 2011, 01:00:23 AM
According to this: http://www.tvguide.com/News/OReilly-Obama-Interview-1027423.aspx, Bill O'Reilly will be interview President Obama set to air on Super Bowl Sunday.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on January 10, 2011, 07:50:51 AM
Democratic Representative from Arizona assassinated in Tucson, along with several others:

http://www.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/01/08/arizona.shooting/index.html?hpt=T2

Lordy.

Latest word is that she has so far survived, but is in critical condition with a bullet wound to the head. However, at least 5 others were killed, including the chief judge of the U.S. District Court in Arizona and several members of her staff, as well as a 9-year-old girl.

The shooter used a 9mm handgun. Now explain to me again why private citizens need to own such high-powered armaments.  And I hope Gov. Jan Brewer isn't allowed to appoint a replacement under Arizona law--if she is, then we get one more republican in Congress.

I hope people can keep the rhetoric out this tragedy. Doing so is, IMO, is really disgusting. I saw this on another message board and I will nevrr go back there again. The killer is just a nut....the 9 year old girl who was killed was born on September 11, 2001. 

Yes the guy is insane, whatever his political affiliation. Even the army thought so -- but crazy people can buy guns in AZ, which is, well, crazy.

And violent anti-gov't rhetoric *is* at an all-time high in this country, and much of it tends to come from the rightward direction.

The Drive is doing the Moment of Silence at 11 eastern/8 Pacific, and preceded it with CSNY's "Find the Cost of Freedom"
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Gazoo on January 10, 2011, 09:56:08 AM
According to this: http://www.tvguide.com/News/OReilly-Obama-Interview-1027423.aspx, Bill O'Reilly will be interview President Obama set to air on Super Bowl Sunday.

Please, oh please, may O'Reilly afford the President more respect than he typically affords his non-Republican guests.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on January 12, 2011, 03:28:04 PM
I (heart) Patton Oswalt:

http://celebs.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474978913103
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: mshray on January 12, 2011, 03:44:22 PM
I (heart) Patton Oswalt:

http://celebs.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474978913103

all I can say about Palin's use of the term 'blood libel' is:  Those who would forget the past are doomed to have Sarah Palin mangle it for her own purposes.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: urth on January 25, 2011, 05:53:49 PM
In case you needed more evidence that Michelle Bachmann is a complete eedjit, I offer this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=eg8kDG94kb8
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on January 25, 2011, 09:03:38 PM
In case you needed more evidence that Michelle Bachmann is a complete eedjit, I offer this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=eg8kDG94kb8

(http://images2.dailykos.com/images/user/191280/imwithstupid2.jpg)
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on January 28, 2011, 01:08:22 PM
Listening to Little Steven's show, he's celebrating the premiere (43 yrs ago this week) of Laugh-In. And he plays a clip: Dick & Dan presenting the very first "Flying Fickle Finger of Fate" award to the US Congress for "failing to pass gun control legislation". le plus ca change...

(http://discardedlies.com/images/laughin1.jpg)
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on January 31, 2011, 12:36:44 PM
Where's Waldo Egypt?

http://www.someecards.com/2011/01/31/fox-news-doesnt-know-where-egypt-is
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Wayback on January 31, 2011, 12:52:47 PM
Where's Waldo Egypt?
http://www.someecards.com/2011/01/31/fox-news-doesnt-know-where-egypt-is
Busted!  As you know, periodic surveys show that most folks have poor geography skills, can't identify states, cities, countries on a blank map.   I've loved geography since grade school, used to draw maps freehand.  Here, try some of these map quizzes:
http://www.lizardpoint.com/fun/geoquiz/
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: mshray on February 01, 2011, 11:02:37 AM
Listening to Little Steven's show, he's celebrating the premiere (43 yrs ago this week) of Laugh-In. And he plays a clip: Dick & Dan presenting the very first "Flying Fickle Finger of Fate" award to the US Congress for "failing to pass gun control legislation". le plus ca change...

(http://discardedlies.com/images/laughin1.jpg)

I rarely get to listen to Little Steven, but I heard that driving back from Beejmas.  I was completely floored.  They said something like "despite the wishes of 200,000,000 Americans" in the quote, and back then the population was ~250M, so that would have been over 80% (if accurate).
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on February 01, 2011, 11:32:38 AM
I rarely get to listen to Little Steven...

I had given up listening to his show on The Bone, because they were continually screwing it up (deleting segments, playing the same show 2 weeks in a row, etc) but his newly reconfigured website has a "listen to this week's show" link right up front

http://www.littlestevensundergroundgarage.com/index.html

and you no longer have to register or anything.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on February 03, 2011, 07:44:25 AM
(http://www.wiggedout.com/weblog/uploaded_images/republicans_greed-726770.jpg)

 ;)
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: mshray on February 04, 2011, 05:46:07 PM
awe-f***ing-some
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: ggould on February 04, 2011, 09:19:48 PM
(http://www.wiggedout.com/weblog/uploaded_images/republicans_greed-726770.jpg)

 ;)
I have some friends on facebook that I wouldn't want to put this in their face.  I guess it's time to make my commie/pinko list!
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: SFGuy on February 09, 2011, 08:18:01 PM
Posted without comment:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2011/02/09/state/n151938S93.DTL&tsp=1
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on February 09, 2011, 08:48:15 PM
Posted without comment:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2011/02/09/state/n151938S93.DTL&tsp=1

aw come on, comment!  :)

At least it's a hetero GOP sex scandal for a change.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Tinka Cat on February 09, 2011, 09:28:16 PM
Posted without comment:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2011/02/09/state/n151938S93.DTL&tsp=1

aw come on, comment!  :)

At least it's a hetero GOP sex scandal for a change.

he used to represent part of my hometown county.
(http://wonkette.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/lee_twopics.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on February 10, 2011, 08:28:36 PM
Not really news, but interesting nonetheless...

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2011/2/10/942670/-A-Foxer-Finally-Admits:-They-Just-Make-#*It-Up!
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: mshray on February 22, 2011, 03:50:26 PM
Posted without comment:
Clarence Thomas hits 5 years without asking a question. (http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-clarence-thomas-20110223,0,6482437.story)
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: ggould on February 23, 2011, 02:11:51 PM
wacko deputy AG Jeff Cox of Indiana gets fired:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/02/23/948880/-Indiana-AG-fires-deputyJeff-Cox-over-blog-posts
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on February 23, 2011, 02:21:47 PM
wacko deputy AG Jeff Cox of Indiana gets fired:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/02/23/948880/-Indiana-AG-fires-deputyJeff-Cox-over-blog-posts

was he fired with "live ammunition"?  It's really amazing how many politicians "Tweet" idiotic stuff and are then shocked -- SHOCKED -- when people actually, y'know, read it.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on February 23, 2011, 08:54:05 PM
Why America is royally fucked, Part CCCXLVIII:  A FB-friend posted, without comment, the news that Donald Trump says he will decide by June whether to run for Prez in 2012. In short order 2 of my friend's FB-friends (I don't know either one) responded:

Vito C. Honestly, I think he may have my vote...... Will have to hear his agenda first.

Montrue S. I love the Trumper. Remember when he fixed Wallman Skating Rink in NYC? He has a big mouth, and the brains to back it up. I would vote for him. Maybe what we need is a good business man in the White House!

Gawd help us all. I rebutted with "Good Lord, people! His 'agenda'? His agenda is to make billionaires like himself even richer. Wake Up, America." But I'm sure that will fall on deaf ears.  Sheesh and Yeesh.

ETA: "Vito C" replied with a long rant that included name calling. Some nice folks on Facebook!

ETA2: I told "Vito" I didn't get into shouting matches on FB and he said something about punching me in the jaw. The original FB-friend whose thread it was then deleted "Vito".

I weep for America.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on February 24, 2011, 09:01:19 AM
But enuf of name-calling and jaw-punching. Some humor, re: Wisconsin:

http://maddowblog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/02/24/6120374-hi-can-i-talk-to-scott-
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on February 28, 2011, 09:20:31 AM
Posted on FB my Larry Grogan of "Funky 16 Corners":

"A public union employee, a tea party activist, and a CEO are sitting at a table with a plate of a dozen cookies in the middle of it. The CEO takes 11 of the cookies, turns to the tea partier and says, 'Watch out for that union guy. He wants a piece of your cookie'."

America in a nutshell.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: mshray on March 01, 2011, 11:01:59 AM
Posted on FB my Larry Grogan of "Funky 16 Corners":

"A public union employee, a tea party activist, and a CEO are sitting at a table with a plate of a dozen cookies in the middle of it. The CEO takes 11 of the cookies, turns to the tea partier and says, 'Watch out for that union guy. He wants a piece of your cookie'."

America in a nutshell.

Classic.  I'm using that one going forward.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on March 02, 2011, 08:55:14 AM
Classic Faux News obfuscation: they're talking about alleged violent demonstrators in Wisconsin, but the clip they show has, er, palm trees in the background.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RClJ6vK9x_4
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on March 14, 2011, 02:14:16 PM
Nauseating but unsurprising:

http://mobile.salon.com/politics/war_room/2011/03/14/evan_bayh_fox/index.html
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on March 14, 2011, 09:05:18 PM
Repbulicans love unions! as long as they're... someplace else:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bn28oayX31Y
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on March 19, 2011, 05:16:51 PM
WTF happened to (former SNL regular) Victoria Jackson?? Best to ignore her, but in case you hadn't seen this:

http://www.advocate.com/News/Daily_News/2011/03/18/Former_SNL_Star_Found_Glee_Kiss_Sickening/

and while we're on the subject:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/18/apple-exodus-international-app_n_837698.html
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on March 24, 2011, 03:35:45 PM
Classic Karl Rove:

http://maddowblog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/03/23/6329663-if-the-word-rovian-ever-makes-the-dictionary
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Lightnin' Rod on March 29, 2011, 09:35:49 AM
Evil Spock would punish Santorum for his illogical and self-serving conclusions:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2011/03/29/state/n074438D80.DTL&tsp=1

Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on April 06, 2011, 10:49:11 AM
as expected: Beck leaving Fox...

http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/04/06/glenn-beck-to-end-daily-fox-news-program/
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: ggould on April 06, 2011, 11:30:42 AM
I've been following the WI supreme court race closely.  The results couldn't be any closer, and an automatic recall is assured.

http://elections.todaystmj4.com/G8801.htm

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/files/elections/2011/by_county/WI_Supreme_Court_0405.html
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: urth on April 06, 2011, 02:48:11 PM
I've been following the WI supreme court race closely.  The results couldn't be any closer, and an automatic recall is assured.

http://elections.todaystmj4.com/G8801.htm

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/files/elections/2011/by_county/WI_Supreme_Court_0405.html

You mean automatic recount, right?
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: ggould on April 06, 2011, 04:21:30 PM
I've been following the WI supreme court race closely.  The results couldn't be any closer, and an automatic recall is assured.

http://elections.todaystmj4.com/G8801.htm

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/files/elections/2011/by_county/WI_Supreme_Court_0405.html

You mean automatic recount, right?
absolutely!  Perhaps I was thinking automatic recall of Walker!
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: urth on April 06, 2011, 11:22:32 PM
I've been following the WI supreme court race closely.  The results couldn't be any closer, and an automatic recall is assured.

http://elections.todaystmj4.com/G8801.htm

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/files/elections/2011/by_county/WI_Supreme_Court_0405.html

You mean automatic recount, right?
absolutely!  Perhaps I was thinking automatic recall of Walker!

I had an e-mail from MoveOn (or its successor) crowing about victory in Wisconsin, which I hope does come to pass. But yes, with a margin that small (barely 200 votes) I'd think a recount would be a foregone conclusion. Hoping the margin only widens. And Walker is sent packing, too, while we're at it.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: ggould on April 07, 2011, 05:04:01 PM
I've been following the WI supreme court race closely.  The results couldn't be any closer, and an automatic recall is assured.

http://elections.todaystmj4.com/G8801.htm

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/files/elections/2011/by_county/WI_Supreme_Court_0405.html

You mean automatic recount, right?
absolutely!  Perhaps I was thinking automatic recall of Walker!

I had an e-mail from MoveOn (or its successor) crowing about victory in Wisconsin, which I hope does come to pass. But yes, with a margin that small (barely 200 votes) I'd think a recount would be a foregone conclusion. Hoping the margin only widens. And Walker is sent packing, too, while we're at it.
driving home, I heard they found 7000 votes for the conservative!  Oy!
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: urth on April 07, 2011, 10:17:35 PM
I've been following the WI supreme court race closely.  The results couldn't be any closer, and an automatic recall is assured.

http://elections.todaystmj4.com/G8801.htm

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/files/elections/2011/by_county/WI_Supreme_Court_0405.html

You mean automatic recount, right?
absolutely!  Perhaps I was thinking automatic recall of Walker!

I had an e-mail from MoveOn (or its successor) crowing about victory in Wisconsin, which I hope does come to pass. But yes, with a margin that small (barely 200 votes) I'd think a recount would be a foregone conclusion. Hoping the margin only widens. And Walker is sent packing, too, while we're at it.
driving home, I heard they found 7000 votes for the conservative!  Oy!

Wow, they must have had election workers up half the night "casting" those ballots.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on April 08, 2011, 08:50:44 AM
Jon Stewart last nite:

"The only real difference between Glenn Beck and Paul Revere is that when Paul Revere told you the British were coming, they were, in fact, coming."
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on April 13, 2011, 09:04:04 AM
A great Jon Carroll column today about that flaming lunatic Bill Donohue:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/04/13/DDUE1IUCO1.DTL
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: urth on April 21, 2011, 11:05:22 PM
More stupidity from the South. Tennessee this time:

http://unicornbooty.com/2011/04/tn-senate-passes-dont-say-gay-bill/
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on April 22, 2011, 07:23:22 AM
More stupidity from the South. Tennessee this time:

http://unicornbooty.com/2011/04/tn-senate-passes-dont-say-gay-bill/

FYI, that link made my browser crash.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: urth on April 22, 2011, 09:43:15 AM
More stupidity from the South. Tennessee this time:

http://unicornbooty.com/2011/04/tn-senate-passes-dont-say-gay-bill/

FYI, that link made my browser crash.

Sorry. It works fine on mine.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: ggould on April 22, 2011, 08:39:37 PM
More stupidity from the South. Tennessee this time:

http://unicornbooty.com/2011/04/tn-senate-passes-dont-say-gay-bill/

FYI, that link made my browser crash.

Sorry. It works fine on mine.
me too.  I think people are going nuts lately with all the crazy laws these people are passing.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Gazoo on April 27, 2011, 12:34:05 AM
More stupidity from the South. Tennessee this time:

http://unicornbooty.com/2011/04/tn-senate-passes-dont-say-gay-bill/

FYI, that link made my browser crash.

Sorry. It works fine on mine.
me too.  I think people are going nuts lately with all the crazy laws these people are passing.

The Semi-United States of Libertardia.  Population: Us.   :-[
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Gazoo on May 01, 2011, 10:30:49 AM
PLEASE seek out the WH Correspondence Dinner zings on Trump from Obama and Seth Meyers.  Loved seeing them knock that boorish jerk down.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on May 10, 2011, 01:55:05 PM
Geoff posted this on FB but I gotta share it here. Newt and the missus #4.  Scary.

(http://www.randirhodes.com/cc-common/mlib/12369/05/12369_1305052662.jpg)
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: darryl on May 10, 2011, 04:33:07 PM
Not that I'm a fan of Newt's hypocrisy at all, but I believe she's wife #3.  She's the one who got him to convert to Catholicism.  Funny, I thought The Church was against adultery.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: ggould on May 10, 2011, 10:17:24 PM
I guess this will get old after a while, but every new article that has a picture of her is spooky!

(http://mit.zenfs.com/100/2011/05/callista.jpg)
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on May 11, 2011, 07:48:20 AM
Line of the week, from Jon Stewart:

"Why are we listening to the Bush administration people anyway? They didn't get Bin Laden. They're like the Winklevoss twins of getting Bin Laden."
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on May 11, 2011, 07:49:53 AM
Not that I'm a fan of Newt's hypocrisy at all, but I believe she's wife #3.  She's the one who got him to convert to Catholicism.  Funny, I thought The Church was against adultery.

indeed -- and don't Christian Fundamentalists hate Catholics nearly as much as they hate Mormons?
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on May 15, 2011, 04:59:28 PM
had to mention the most hilarious factoid of the weeK: in the midst of the Common kerfuffle, with right-wingers livid over his invite to the White House poetry slam, there was Sarah Palin's "I'm not a racist because I know the lyrics to 'Rapper's Delight' ". Run, Sarah, Run!
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on May 17, 2011, 02:03:14 PM
What he said:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xdtfoRJjfY&feature=player_embedded
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: mshray on May 19, 2011, 09:42:46 AM

What he said:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xdtfoRJjfY&feature=player_embedded

Hey, I like that guy.  Good Stuff.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: mshray on May 19, 2011, 09:43:52 AM

I guess this will get old after a while, but every new article that has a picture of her is spooky!

(http://mit.zenfs.com/100/2011/05/callista.jpg)

Dude, your avatar is spooky.  It's kinda freakin' me out.   ;)
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on May 19, 2011, 09:46:07 AM

What he said:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xdtfoRJjfY&feature=player_embedded

Hey, I like that guy.  Good Stuff.

yeah, he's new to me but the more I see the more I like. Check this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFOZ3dcNucY&feature=related
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on May 19, 2011, 11:16:48 AM
Viral Video Of the Day/Week/Month:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbykzqJ6ens&feature=player_embedded
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: ggould on May 19, 2011, 10:23:32 PM
Dude, your avatar is spooky.  It's kinda freakin' me out.   ;)
Well, I dig Spock, and I dig Obama, so it doesn't seem that spooky to me!
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on May 26, 2011, 09:22:38 AM
an interesting take on Newt and Tiffany's:

http://spytalkblog.blogspot.com/2011/05/gingrich-wife-worked-for-committee.html
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on June 03, 2011, 11:19:51 AM
Sarah's still stupid. And water's still wet.

http://m.wonkette.com/55631/show/17197384c71551e88493761d1ede97cf

comment on a friend's FB thread about this story: "What is the GOP to do? If they pick Romney, will the Evangelicals back a Mormon? And if it's Palin, will anyone back a Moron?"

hahahaha!  The Church of Sarah Palin of Latter-Day Cranks: The Morons!
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on June 07, 2011, 08:27:50 PM
Evan Bayh: what a douche.

http://m.gawker.com/5809509/evan-bayh-sucks
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Gazoo on June 07, 2011, 09:34:53 PM
Evan Bayh: what a douche.

http://m.gawker.com/5809509/evan-bayh-sucks

One of my "centrist" friends has worshipped Bayh for years.  I sent him that Gawker story for perspective.  Doubt he'll reply.   :-\
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on June 09, 2011, 08:08:23 AM
Jon Carroll sums things up nicely, as always.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/06/08/DDG71JQ9DU.DTL
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on June 09, 2011, 03:03:32 PM
Tee Hee: Thatcher not anxious to meet the half-governor.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jun/09/margaret-thatcher-sarah-palin-meeting
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on June 10, 2011, 09:00:37 AM
Dear Tracy Morgan: fuck you.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/06/10/tracy-morgans-homophobic-remarks_n_874699.html
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on June 14, 2011, 12:40:09 PM
Posted on FB by a former cow orker:

"Nathan Bedford Forrest founded the Tea Party in 1866, only back then they called it the Ku Klux Klan. They didn't get their own cable station until 1996 when Roger Ailes started FOX."
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on June 15, 2011, 08:04:51 AM
My FB-friend and former ABC cow orker Ted David, who also worked at CNBC for 20 years, sounds off on that turd Eric Bolling:

http://mediamatters.org/blog/201106150006#.Tfi9Wpiq0eM;facebook
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Tinka Cat on June 15, 2011, 09:17:38 AM
My FB-friend and former ABC cow orker Ted David, who also worked at CNBC for 20 years, sounds off on that turd Eric Bolling:

http://mediamatters.org/blog/201106150006#.Tfi9Wpiq0eM;facebook

That Bolling chap sounds like a turd for shurd.

.... He said he initially took down his comments when they drew angry remarks against him.

"I took it down because I did not want this to be about me," he explained,


Puh-lease.  Yes, you're really NOT drawing attention to yourself when you say the POTUS is "chugging 40's" (is that apostrophe kosher, BTW?  I never know..  The "Oakland A's" use one to indicate a contraction, but here?  Maybe I'll move this question to the copyedit thread) or "...It's not first time he's had a hoodlum in the hizzouse."

Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on June 16, 2011, 08:19:00 AM
I'm tempted to change the name of this thread to the "Rant & Vent About POLITICS" thread, since we rarely use the "Left Wing" thread.

Anyway: "Dems take out their Weiner and Repubs Fall to their Knees" would be my headline...

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2011/06/14/national/w000417D72.DTL&tsp=1
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: sundaygal on June 16, 2011, 08:43:50 AM
I'm tempted to change the name of this thread to the "Rant & Vent About POLITICS" thread, since we rarely use the "Left Wing" thread.

Anyway: "Dems take out their Weiner and Repubs Fall to their Knees" would be my headline...

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2011/06/14/national/w000417D72.DTL&tsp=1

"Weiner's Rise and Fall".  Or something.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Tinka Cat on June 16, 2011, 11:45:05 AM
I'm tempted to change the name of this thread to the "Rant & Vent About POLITICS" thread, since we rarely use the "Left Wing" thread.

Anyway: "Dems take out their Weiner and Repubs Fall to their Knees" would be my headline...

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2011/06/14/national/w000417D72.DTL&tsp=1

"Weiner's Rise and Fall".  Or something.

Weiner says 'Oh fuck,' then quits
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Tinka Cat on June 16, 2011, 03:58:57 PM
I'm tempted to change the name of this thread to the "Rant & Vent About POLITICS" thread, since we rarely use the "Left Wing" thread.

Anyway: "Dems take out their Weiner and Repubs Fall to their Knees" would be my headline...

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2011/06/14/national/w000417D72.DTL&tsp=1

"Weiner's Rise and Fall".  Or something.

Weiner says 'Oh fuck,' then quits

Weiner to public: 'Yes, I'm a dick'
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Lightnin' Rod on June 16, 2011, 05:54:41 PM
I'm tempted to change the name of this thread to the "Rant & Vent About POLITICS" thread, since we rarely use the "Left Wing" thread.

Anyway: "Dems take out their Weiner and Repubs Fall to their Knees" would be my headline...

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2011/06/14/national/w000417D72.DTL&tsp=1

"Weiner's Rise and Fall".  Or something.

Weiner says 'Oh fuck,' then quits

Weiner to public: 'Yes, I'm a dick'
Weiner Pulls Out of Congress
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: sundaygal on June 16, 2011, 05:59:08 PM
I'm tempted to change the name of this thread to the "Rant & Vent About POLITICS" thread, since we rarely use the "Left Wing" thread.

Anyway: "Dems take out their Weiner and Repubs Fall to their Knees" would be my headline...

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2011/06/14/national/w000417D72.DTL&tsp=1

"Weiner's Rise and Fall".  Or something.

Weiner says 'Oh fuck,' then quits

Weiner to public: 'Yes, I'm a dick'
FTW!
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: sundaygal on June 16, 2011, 06:35:35 PM
I'm tempted to change the name of this thread to the "Rant & Vent About POLITICS" thread, since we rarely use the "Left Wing" thread.

Anyway: "Dems take out their Weiner and Repubs Fall to their Knees" would be my headline...

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2011/06/14/national/w000417D72.DTL&tsp=1

"Weiner's Rise and Fall".  Or something.

Weiner says 'Oh fuck,' then quits

Weiner to public: 'Yes, I'm a dick'
Weiner Pulls Out of Congress
Press Too Hard on Weiner? 

(OK, I'll stop now!)
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Wayback on June 16, 2011, 08:53:32 PM
I'm tempted to change the name of this thread to the "Rant & Vent About POLITICS" thread, since we rarely use the "Left Wing" thread.  Anyway: "Dems take out their Weiner and Repubs Fall to their Knees" would be my headline...
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2011/06/14/national/w000417D72.DTL&tsp=1
"Weiner's Rise and Fall".  Or something.
Weiner says 'Oh fuck,' then quits
Weiner to public: 'Yes, I'm a dick'
Weiner Pulls Out of Congress
Press Too Hard on Weiner?
(OK, I'll stop now!)
SFGate Mark Fiore's animated editorial takes on "WeinerGate"
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2011/06/15/fiorethingie.DTL
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Lightnin' Rod on June 17, 2011, 08:59:42 AM
I'm tempted to change the name of this thread to the "Rant & Vent About POLITICS" thread, since we rarely use the "Left Wing" thread.

Anyway: "Dems take out their Weiner and Repubs Fall to their Knees" would be my headline...

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2011/06/14/national/w000417D72.DTL&tsp=1

"Weiner's Rise and Fall".  Or something.

Weiner says 'Oh fuck,' then quits

Weiner to public: 'Yes, I'm a dick'
Weiner Pulls Out of Congress
Press Too Hard on Weiner? 

(OK, I'll stop now!)

One more, next phase:  Weiner Thrusts Back into Private Sector
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on June 17, 2011, 09:03:56 AM
I'm tempted to change the name of this thread to the "Rant & Vent About POLITICS" thread, since we rarely use the "Left Wing" thread.

Anyway: "Dems take out their Weiner and Repubs Fall to their Knees" would be my headline...

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2011/06/14/national/w000417D72.DTL&tsp=1

"Weiner's Rise and Fall".  Or something.

Weiner says 'Oh fuck,' then quits

Weiner to public: 'Yes, I'm a dick'
Weiner Pulls Out of Congress
Press Too Hard on Weiner? 

(OK, I'll stop now!)

One more, next phase:  Weiner Thrusts Back into Private Sector

The only Wiener I care about from now on:

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2056/1751833442_409bf6068d.jpg)
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on June 23, 2011, 08:56:16 AM
I'm not gonna post a lot of KO rants here (now that he's back) but this is pretty priceless:

http://current.com/shows/countdown/videos/worst-persons-part2-santorum
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: ggould on June 23, 2011, 10:16:53 AM
I'm not gonna post a lot of KO rants here (now that he's back) but this is pretty priceless:

http://current.com/shows/countdown/videos/worst-persons-part2-santorum
So, do you get Current TV in your Comcast package?  I don't get it and wonder how much more I have to pony up.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on June 23, 2011, 10:51:33 AM
I'm not gonna post a lot of KO rants here (now that he's back) but this is pretty priceless:

http://current.com/shows/countdown/videos/worst-persons-part2-santorum
So, do you get Current TV in your Comcast package?  I don't get it and wonder how much more I have to pony up.

wow, it's Ch 107 on mine, maybe because I have digital cable? I don't think I pay extra for it, though there are other "tiers" on my system that *are* extra.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: ggould on June 23, 2011, 11:01:41 AM
I'm not gonna post a lot of KO rants here (now that he's back) but this is pretty priceless:

http://current.com/shows/countdown/videos/worst-persons-part2-santorum
So, do you get Current TV in your Comcast package?  I don't get it and wonder how much more I have to pony up.

wow, it's Ch 107 on mine, maybe because I have digital cable? I don't think I pay extra for it, though there are other "tiers" on my system that *are* extra.
I see it in my tuner, it's just not a channel I am allowed to watch.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on June 27, 2011, 02:46:04 PM
er, oops:

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/06/bachmann-confuses-john-wayne-with-john-wayne-gacy-video.php

ETA: oops again...

http://www.businessinsider.com/michele-bachmann-john-quincy-adams-founding-father-video-gma-2011-6
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on June 29, 2011, 11:05:56 AM
John Lennon: Reagan Republican?

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/hottopics/detail?entry_id=91964#commentslistpos

Can't wait to hear Yoko's response...
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on June 29, 2011, 12:30:01 PM
er, oops:

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/06/bachmann-confuses-john-wayne-with-john-wayne-gacy-video.php

ETA: oops again...

http://www.businessinsider.com/michele-bachmann-john-quincy-adams-founding-father-video-gma-2011-6

oops3: Petty tells Bachman to stop using "American Girl":

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2011/06/michele-bachmann-upsets-tom-petty-with-use-of-american-girl.html?dlvrit=23653
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: sundaygal on June 29, 2011, 01:02:09 PM
er, oops:

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/06/bachmann-confuses-john-wayne-with-john-wayne-gacy-video.php

ETA: oops again...

http://www.businessinsider.com/michele-bachmann-john-quincy-adams-founding-father-video-gma-2011-6

oops3: Petty tells Bachman to stop using "American Girl":

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2011/06/michele-bachmann-upsets-tom-petty-with-use-of-american-girl.html?dlvrit=23653
Take it easy baby....Isn't it painful that when something so close is still so out of reeeeeaaach?
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on July 14, 2011, 09:03:02 PM
Bachmann has a lot of... CHOOT-spa?

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2011/07/14/talk-about-chutzpah-michele-bachmann-tries-yiddish-fails/
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on July 18, 2011, 11:33:24 AM
Yes, but did they hack into the phones of the people in the audience?

http://www.examiner.com/political-buzz-in-national/fox-news-touts-packed-theatres-for-palin-movie-before-it-even-opens
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Gazoo on July 20, 2011, 10:21:06 AM
Yes, but did they hack into the phones of the people in the audience?

http://www.examiner.com/political-buzz-in-national/fox-news-touts-packed-theatres-for-palin-movie-before-it-even-opens

Sigh ... par for the course for the Fox Propaganda Network.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on July 22, 2011, 07:29:47 AM
Jon Stewart last nite: "I gotta say, of all my issues with Michele Bachmann's brain, migraines are not even in the top 20."
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on August 10, 2011, 01:27:30 PM
Genius from Colbert:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrygYmTsTfU&feature=share
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: ggould on August 11, 2011, 10:30:08 PM
Genius from Colbert:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrygYmTsTfU&feature=share
got a more current link?
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on August 12, 2011, 07:26:49 AM
Genius from Colbert:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrygYmTsTfU&feature=share
got a more current link?

it's probably available on his website; I was surprised that was on YT in the first place.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on August 12, 2011, 10:47:29 AM
we should have a separate thread just for closeted right wing homos...

http://www.indystar.com/article/20110812/LOCAL1804/108120333/Email-rendezvous-entangles-state-Rep-Phillip-Hinkle?odyssey=tab%7Ctopnews%7Ctext%7CIndyStar.com
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: ggould on August 12, 2011, 10:19:48 PM
Genius from Colbert:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrygYmTsTfU&feature=share
got a more current link?

it's probably available on his website; I was surprised that was on YT in the first place.
since I couldn't see it, I didn't know which clip it was!
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on August 13, 2011, 10:22:56 AM
Genius from Colbert:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrygYmTsTfU&feature=share
got a more current link?

it's probably available on his website; I was surprised that was on YT in the first place.
since I couldn't see it, I didn't know which clip it was!

sorry, here it is:

http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/394434/august-11-2011/super-pac-ad---rick-perry?xrs=synd_facebook
Title: Deep dog
Post by: urth on August 13, 2011, 11:15:12 AM
Hope you've all had a chance to see this. Words fail:

(http://hammeroftruth.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/michele-bachmann-eating-a-corndog.jpg)
Title: Re: Deep dog
Post by: RGMike on August 13, 2011, 11:26:27 AM
Hope you've all had a chance to see this. Words fail:


OMGWTFLOL. I thought "Christians" were against that sorta thing. Bet Marcus taught her how to suppress her gag reflex.
Title: Re: Deep dog
Post by: sundaygal on August 13, 2011, 11:45:56 AM
Hope you've all had a chance to see this. Words fail:


OMGWTFLOL. I thought "Christians" were against that sorta thing. Bet Marcus taught her how to suppress her gag reflex.

Did she spit it out afterwards?  Probably!
Title: Re: Deep dog
Post by: radical347 on August 13, 2011, 03:32:08 PM
Hope you've all had a chance to see this. Words fail:


OMGWTFLOL. I thought "Christians" were against that sorta thing. Bet Marcus taught her how to suppress her gag reflex.

No, that would be Jews...unless, of course, it's an all beef-dog.
Title: Re: Deep dog
Post by: RGMike on August 13, 2011, 06:50:30 PM
Hope you've all had a chance to see this. Words fail:


OMGWTFLOL. I thought "Christians" were against that sorta thing. Bet Marcus taught her how to suppress her gag reflex.

No, that would be Jews...unless, of course, it's an all beef-dog.

well, now we know why she won the Iowa Straw Pole, er, Poll.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on August 14, 2011, 09:30:37 AM
Buh-bye, T-Paw. Timmy P drops out:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2011/08/14/politics/p054559D49.DTL&tsp=1
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: ggould on August 14, 2011, 08:39:50 PM
I dare you to watch this.  It's today's Meet The Press closeup with Michelle Bachmann.  It is positively painful.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032608/vp/44136638#44136638
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: urth on August 14, 2011, 10:24:44 PM
I dare you to watch this.  It's today's Meet The Press closeup with Michelle Bachmann.  It is positively painful.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032608/vp/44136638#44136638

Meet the new Palin. Same as the old Palin.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: ggould on August 14, 2011, 10:56:28 PM
I dare you to watch this.  It's today's Meet The Press closeup with Michelle Bachmann.  It is positively painful.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032608/vp/44136638#44136638

Meet the new Palin. Same as the old Palin.
My question is:  are these people willfully lying sacks o' shit, or are they really that stupid?
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on August 15, 2011, 07:53:23 AM
I dare you to watch this.  It's today's Meet The Press closeup with Michelle Bachmann.  It is positively painful.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032608/vp/44136638#44136638

Meet the new Palin. Same as the old Palin.
My question is:  are these people willfully lying sacks o' shit, or are they really that stupid?

http://soundcloud.com/carolinecorley/parody-song-her-eyes-are-crazy?utm_source=soundcloud&utm_campaign=share&utm_medium=facebook&utm_content=http%3A%2F%2Fsoundcloud.com%2Fcarolinecorley%2Fparody-song-her-eyes-are-crazy
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Wayback on August 16, 2011, 01:47:04 PM
Bachmann wishes Elvis happy b'day on his death date today
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2011/08/16/politics/p114301D80.DTL
Title: Re: Deep dog
Post by: urth on August 16, 2011, 08:12:47 PM
Hope you've all had a chance to see this. Words fail:


Son of Deep Dog:

(http://thepoliticalcarnival.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/Rick-Perry-corndog-via-Iowapolitics-dot-com.jpg)

God bless the Iowa State Fair.
Title: Re: Deep dog
Post by: RGMike on August 16, 2011, 08:48:45 PM
Hope you've all had a chance to see this. Words fail:


Son of Deep Dog:

God bless the Iowa State Fair.

what IS it with these evangelicals??
Title: Re: Deep dog
Post by: urth on August 16, 2011, 10:36:12 PM
Hope you've all had a chance to see this. Words fail:


Son of Deep Dog:

God bless the Iowa State Fair.

what IS it with these evangelicals??

After this no politician will want anything to do with a corndog, in public or otherwise.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on August 17, 2011, 07:54:02 AM
(http://s3.credoaction.com.s3.amazonaws.com/comics/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/TMW2011-08-17colorlowres.jpg)
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on August 23, 2011, 09:32:11 AM
great chart showing which states pay more in taxes than they receive in federal $$... and vice-versa. Note all the government-hating rugged individualists on the bottom half. -- esp take note of where Alaska is.

(http://www.calamitiesofnature.com/archive/575.jpg)
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on August 24, 2011, 08:57:47 AM
Bwahahaha:

http://www.theonion.com/articles/whitehot-gop-race-down-to-two-mentally-ill-people,21196/
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on August 24, 2011, 02:21:15 PM
This is, er, interesting...

http://www.businessinsider.com/rick-perry-adultery-gay-rumors-2011-8
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on August 25, 2011, 09:56:08 AM
This is, er, interesting...

http://www.businessinsider.com/rick-perry-adultery-gay-rumors-2011-8

No wonder Kinky Friedman has endorsed Perry:

http://news.yahoo.com/kinky-perry-234500662.html
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: ggould on August 25, 2011, 07:25:06 PM
This is, er, interesting...

http://www.businessinsider.com/rick-perry-adultery-gay-rumors-2011-8

No wonder Kinky Friedman has endorsed Perry:

http://news.yahoo.com/kinky-perry-234500662.html
OMFG!
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on August 26, 2011, 07:50:46 AM
Yay Jon Carroll, as usual:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/08/26/DDND1KRELR.DTL
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on August 26, 2011, 12:20:08 PM
(http://hollywood-elsewhere.com/images/column/aug2011/perrybush550.jpg)
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on August 29, 2011, 04:00:04 PM
yes, in the middle of Hurricane Irene, an op-ed piece on FoxNews.com advocated the abolishing of the National Weather Service.

http://mediamatters.org/blog/201108290013

Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on September 06, 2011, 08:29:23 PM
A FB friend posted a link to this article about NY Archbishop Dolan...

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504803_162-20044758-10391709.html

and since Gaz is "off-line" this week, I felt compelled to re-post with a comment I know he'd appreciate
and could probably have written himself:

Quote
Sorry, Dolan: the celibate, unmarried spokesman for an outfit that has spent decades covering up child abuse and telling poverty-stricken Africans not to use condoms is NOT fit to pontificate (ha ha) on whether I "have what it takes" to be married. So screw you.  And as for your bizarre baseball analogy... does falling in love require athletic skill? or do you just, um, enjoy thinking about Derek Jeter?
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on September 09, 2011, 07:57:14 AM
Jon Carroll does it again:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/09/09/DD121L1BVM.DTL
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Lightnin' Rod on September 09, 2011, 09:31:49 AM
Jon Carroll does it again:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/09/09/DD121L1BVM.DTL

I figured someone would have posted this already.  This is right in line with some of Geoff's blogs.  Treason, or carefullly planned political strategy.  Ta-mate-oh, Tah-mah-toh.

ETA:  I also like the phrase "low-information voters". 
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Big Fingers McGee on September 09, 2011, 01:03:49 PM
Jon Carroll does it again:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/09/09/DD121L1BVM.DTL

I figured someone would have posted this already.  This is right in line with some of Geoff's blogs.  Treason, or carefullly planned political strategy.  Ta-mate-oh, Tah-mah-toh.

ETA:  I also like the phrase "low-information voters". 

I do too... in fact that is going to be what I use instead of "moron" for awhile.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: ggould on September 10, 2011, 05:41:42 PM
Jon Carroll does it again:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/09/09/DD121L1BVM.DTL

I figured someone would have posted this already.  This is right in line with some of Geoff's blogs.  Treason, or carefullly planned political strategy.  Ta-mate-oh, Tah-mah-toh.

ETA:  I also like the phrase "low-information voters". 

I do too... in fact that is going to be what I use instead of "moron" for awhile.

Carroll closes very strong:
Quote
So it's on us. If we turn away in horror, then our tax money will go to solidify a dual theocracy/kleptocracy such as the world has never seen before. If we pay attention and fight, with information and action, then at least there's a chance.

Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on September 20, 2011, 09:13:53 PM
(http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lru7imsdTX1qc0rkio1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Gazoo on September 23, 2011, 10:05:39 AM
Anyone catch the Republican debate audience booing a soldier upon his statement of being gay?  Classless fuckwits.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Gazoo on September 23, 2011, 10:09:28 AM
A FB friend posted a link to this article about NY Archbishop Dolan...

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504803_162-20044758-10391709.html

and since Gaz is "off-line" this week, I felt compelled to re-post with a comment I know he'd appreciate
and could probably have written himself:

Quote
Sorry, Dolan: the celibate, unmarried spokesman for an outfit that has spent decades covering up child abuse and telling poverty-stricken Africans not to use condoms is NOT fit to pontificate (ha ha) on whether I "have what it takes" to be married. So screw you.  And as for your bizarre baseball analogy... does falling in love require athletic skill? or do you just, um, enjoy thinking about Derek Jeter?

Well said.  And my Catholic friends wonder why I have such disdain for the organization behind the religion.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on September 25, 2011, 05:45:09 PM
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_loys2sAGAr1qdms8wo1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on September 28, 2011, 02:26:27 PM
Dunno why this is making the rounds yoday -- it's from Feb of 2010, apparently -- but it's still funny.

(http://0.tqn.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/B/E/3/homescholers-for-perry.jpg)

We don't need no edjumacayshun!
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on September 28, 2011, 09:41:12 PM
Sarah Palin LURVES Herb Caen... er... wait, what??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=O0O4GjEWDzE
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on October 07, 2011, 11:58:06 AM
Toby Keith loves teh gays!  well, he doesn't hate us anyway:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=%2Fn%2Fa%2F2011%2F09%2F30%2Fentertainment%2Fe172340D14.DTL
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on October 07, 2011, 03:54:08 PM
AL made a nice post on FB about the Occupy Wall St f0lks, but some jerk whose name I (thankfully) didn't recognize said

"Please don't give those morons any more pub"

Fuck you, douchebag.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: ggould on October 08, 2011, 04:33:50 PM
AL made a nice post on FB about the Occupy Wall St f0lks, but some jerk whose name I (thankfully) didn't recognize said

"Please don't give those morons any more pub"

Fuck you, douchebag.
Sure, the protestors are, shall we say, a bit scattered?  But shit!  Why they are there is very real, and so is the conscious attempt to downplay it in the media.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on October 10, 2011, 02:55:46 PM
(http://www.inquisitr.com/wp-content/2011/10/Fox-News-Logo.jpg)
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on October 25, 2011, 11:15:52 AM
Seriously, Brian Wilson and will.i.am? WTF?

http://blog.sfgate.com/nov05election/2011/10/25/powerful-crowd-of-celebs-in-crazy-new-political-ad-for-ed-lee-fear-the-mustache-video/

now I'm *definitely* not voting for Ed Lee.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Here'sToYa! on October 25, 2011, 11:52:01 AM
Ed Lee counts as right wing?
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: sundaygal on October 25, 2011, 12:05:03 PM
Seriously, Brian Wilson and will.i.am? WTF?

http://blog.sfgate.com/nov05election/2011/10/25/powerful-crowd-of-celebs-in-crazy-new-political-ad-for-ed-lee-fear-the-mustache-video/

now I'm *definitely* not voting for Ed Lee.

I'm voting for David "Chiubacca" Chiu! 
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on October 25, 2011, 12:15:24 PM
Ed Lee counts as right wing?

I honestly couldn't decide whether to put it in the "right wing" or "left wing" thread
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: ggould on October 26, 2011, 11:04:49 PM
Ed Lee counts as right wing?

I honestly couldn't decide whether to put it in the "right wing" or "left wing" thread

only in SF would someone like Ed Lee be considered right wing!  I don't really know who to vote for.  A friend wonders if any of the candidates were behind that failed circumcision ballot measure.  Anyone know?
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on October 27, 2011, 07:45:50 AM
Ed Lee counts as right wing?

I honestly couldn't decide whether to put it in the "right wing" or "left wing" thread

only in SF would someone like Ed Lee be considered right wing!  I don't really know who to vote for.  A friend wonders if any of the candidates were behind that failed circumcision ballot measure.  Anyone know?

Well, he's certainly not a progressive, and apparently he has links to Rev Eugene Lumpkin (not to mention Rose Pak), and just the whole he-promised-not-to-run-and-then-conveniently-changed-his-mind thing is reason enuf for me not to vote for him.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on October 30, 2011, 05:01:53 PM
Thanks Swellegant Tim for finding this.

(http://jewmanist.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/jesus.jpg)
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Big Fingers McGee on October 30, 2011, 06:52:15 PM
Thanks Swellegant Tim for finding this.

(http://jewmanist.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/jesus.jpg)

You're welcome, but I stole it from somebody I've known since preschool!
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: urth on November 08, 2011, 11:22:18 PM
Illinois Congressman Joe Walsh (no, not that one), who's known for not keeping up his child support payments among other things, goes off the rails at a meeting with his constituents in the Chicago area over the weekend.

http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2011/11/08/364180/joe-walsh-melts-down-bank-lobby/

OK, so there's one Repugnican seat that might be in play next year.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on November 09, 2011, 07:44:18 AM
Illinois Congressman Joe Walsh (no, not that one), who's known for not keeping up his child support payments among other things, goes off the rails at a meeting with his constituents in the Chicago area over the weekend.

http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2011/11/08/364180/joe-walsh-melts-down-bank-lobby/

OK, so there's one Repugnican seat that might be in play next year.

He also got a "Family Values" award from the Amerucan family Institute (or whatever they're called) last week. He's a real piece of work. His opponent should just play that clip non-stop fro the next 365.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on February 04, 2012, 07:18:59 PM
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-KlcaL0nIuh4/TqhEBK0kpGI/AAAAAAAAOGU/NWgSr59MOk8/s1600/conflicting+beliefs.jpg)
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on February 18, 2012, 04:02:28 PM
"I'm against illegal immigrants -- except the hunky ones I sleep with"

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2012/02/18/national/a130757S63.DTL&tsp=1
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: mshray on March 17, 2012, 04:30:55 PM
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Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on July 01, 2012, 12:23:57 PM
Loved Bill Maher's comment about Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter failing at the box office  -- "who needs a movie to see Republicans fighting shit that doesn't really exist, when you can just ask Sean Hannity about socialism."
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on July 01, 2012, 12:27:11 PM
Mitt's strategy: avoid the "lame-stream media". Because, y'know, that worked so well for Palin.

http://thinkprogress.org/election/2012/07/01/509328/romney-advisors-reveal-strategy-ignore-journalists-pander-to-right-wing-conspriacy-websites/
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: ggould on July 01, 2012, 07:38:09 PM
Mitt's strategy: avoid the "lame-stream media". Because, y'know, that worked so well for Palin.

http://thinkprogress.org/election/2012/07/01/509328/romney-advisors-reveal-strategy-ignore-journalists-pander-to-right-wing-conspriacy-websites/
omfg
Title: Scalia the Troll
Post by: ggould on March 02, 2013, 09:06:40 PM
Rachel Maddow called Scalia a troll on the Daily Show.  For those of you that haven't heard the audio of him referring to the Voting Rights Act as a case of 'perpetual racial entitlement,' here's the audio:

http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/scalia-voting-rights-act-perpetuation-of-racial-entitlement
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: dischead on August 06, 2015, 11:52:25 AM

The Official GOP Debate Drinking Game Rules (http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-official-gop-debate-drinking-game-rules-20150805)
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: dischead on February 28, 2016, 09:43:29 PM
Matt Taibbi, writing for Rolling Stone, nails it again.  The Presidential contest, and especially
the Republican party nomination process, has devolved into a reality show.  Starting last summer
with his attack on John McCain and continuing through every "oh no he didn't" moment since then,
Trump has been expertly playing that game.


How America Made Donald Trump Unstoppable (https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/how-america-made-donald-trump-unstoppable-20160224)

Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: RGMike on February 29, 2016, 09:16:19 AM
Matt Taibbi, writing for Rolling Stone, nails it again.  The Presidential contest, and especially
the Republican party nomination process, has devolved into a reality show.  Starting last summer
with his attack on John McCain and continuing through every "oh no he didn't" moment since then,
Trump has been expertly playing that game.


How America Made Donald Trump Unstoppable (https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/how-america-made-donald-trump-unstoppable-20160224)

Taibbi is awesome. Great piece.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: dischead on May 27, 2016, 09:27:21 AM

The following comment from a political blog, made in response to yet another WTF moment from the
Republican klown kar, seems to sum things up perfectly:

Quote
There are days -- and more and more of them lately -- where I feel like a minor character in somebody's extended mescaline hallucination.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: dischead on June 06, 2016, 02:23:35 PM
Remember when there really was a political left wing in America, before thirty years of reactionary
Republicans dragged the Overton Window far to the right?

Remember when Dennis Miller was funny, before he took a hit off of George Bush's power pipe
during a trip on Air Force One, shed his libertarian skin, and boarded the conservative gravy train?

Then I have a blog for you!


http://driftglass.blogspot.com/


The Driftglass blog is written by an unabashed liberal, AKA a Dirty Fucking Hippy (DFH) who
skewers conservatives, the corrupt political media, and "both sides do it" apologists with
intelligent literary allusions, humor, and clever writing.  The comments are well worth reading
and often equally as perspicacious.  Below is a sample of some of the bon mots from recent
weeks:

----------------------------------------

Yes, America's most famous intercontinental chaser of tail and office abandoner, Mark Sanford, will be on CNN's "State of the Union" to explain why inbred South Carolina Republican hill folk will forgive literally anything a wingnut politician does so long as he promises to love Jebus, hate the Kenyan Usurper and use a condom if he's gonna take the goat around back for a quick round of "Firing on Fort Sumter".

And finally, if you've ever wondered what it would be like to be hit in the head with a power drill and a pillowcase full of lard at the same time. be sure to tune in to "Fox News Sunday" to hear Karl Rove and Laura Ingraham lie to you across a whole range of unpleasant audio frequencies.

-----

The Party of Lincoln died long, long ago.  Nixon strapped it to the gurney, Reagan administered the lethal injection and you and every other Conservative parasite here in the Home of the Free have been picnicking on its corpse for decades.

-----

Oh, and the Republicans lost the right to invoke Lincoln when they became the party of Confederate-flag fetishists.  Their ability to overlook the irony of this is stunningly myopic even for them.

-----

Not for nothing, but about a year later in 1970, Nixon's Executive Producer for Media came up with a 15-page plan to combat those "Nattering Nabobs" of Liberal Media. It was titled “A Plan for Putting the GOP on TV News,” and is in the Nixon Library in San Clemente. Among the reasons given for the presumed success if there ever was a GOP TV: "People are lazy. With television you just sit—watch—listen. The thinking is done for you.”

That Nixon staffer was none other than Roger Ailes, who went on to do precisely what he said. He just called it Fox News instead of GOP TV. Of course, other members of the media couldn't DARE call out Fox News for its Republican/conservative bias. Even though its in writing by its fucking founder/president 46 years ago and in a Presidential Library.

-----

[comment regarding David Brooks' musing that he needed to get out of the Acela Corridor and get in touch with the Real America]

We were somewhere around Silver Spring on the edge of the wilderness when the drugs began to take hold. I remember saying something like "I feel a bit lightheaded; maybe you should drive. ..." And suddenly there was a terrible roar all around us and the sky was full of what looked like huge orange Donald Trumps, all swooping and screeching and diving around the car, which was going about 100 miles an hour with the top down to West Virginia. And a voice was screaming: "Holy Jesus! Who nominated these goddamn animals?"

David Brooks, Fear and Loathing in Real America
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: dischead on June 27, 2016, 03:02:26 PM

People Are Replacing Calvin With Donald Trump In 'Calvin And Hobbes' Strips And It’s Terrifyingly Accurate (http://uproxx.com/webculture/donald-trump-calvin-and-hobbes/)

Effin' brilliant.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: ggould on November 10, 2016, 09:19:48 PM
Well, is this the kind of conversation obviated by Facebook?  I'm pretty wacked out by all this darkness.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Big Fingers McGee on November 11, 2016, 05:37:11 AM
Well, is this the kind of conversation obviated by Facebook?  I'm pretty wacked out by all this darkness.

No doubt it is really bad news. What's missing are constructive answers as to what to do about it. I don't believe rioting in Oakland is one of them.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: ggould on November 21, 2016, 10:26:20 PM
Well, is this the kind of conversation obviated by Facebook?  I'm pretty wacked out by all this darkness.

No doubt it is really bad news. What's missing are constructive answers as to what to do about it. I don't believe rioting in Oakland is one of them.

Truth!  John Oliver was right on, and points towards action:

https://youtu.be/-rSDUsMwakI

We're going to study some of his recommendations, and do something financial within our comfort level.  It seems like the main thing is to not let this all become the new normal.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: dischead on December 09, 2016, 10:06:57 AM

"This may be the year when we finally come face to face with ourselves; finally just lay back and
say it -- that we are really just a nation of 220 million used car salesmen with all the money we
need to buy guns, and no qualms at all about killing anybody else in the world who tries to make
us uncomfortable.  The tragedy of all this is that George McGovern, for all his mistakes...
understands what a fantastic monument to all the best instincts of the human race this country
might have been, if we could have kept it out of the hands of greedy little hustlers like Richard
Nixon.  McGovern made some stupid mistakes, but in context they seem almost frivolous compared
to the things Richard Nixon does every day of his life, on purpose... Jesus!  Where will it end?  How
low do you have to stoop in this country to be President?"

-- Hunter S. Thompson
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: ggould on December 13, 2016, 11:05:13 PM

"This may be the year when we finally come face to face with ourselves; finally just lay back and
say it -- that we are really just a nation of 220 million used car salesmen with all the money we
need to buy guns, and no qualms at all about killing anybody else in the world who tries to make
us uncomfortable.  The tragedy of all this is that George McGovern, for all his mistakes...
understands what a fantastic monument to all the best instincts of the human race this country
might have been, if we could have kept it out of the hands of greedy little hustlers like Richard
Nixon.  McGovern made some stupid mistakes, but in context they seem almost frivolous compared
to the things Richard Nixon does every day of his life, on purpose... Jesus!  Where will it end?  How
low do you have to stoop in this country to be President?"

-- Hunter S. Thompson
point well taken!
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Lightnin' Rod on March 24, 2017, 01:24:41 PM
I just love that they can't even bring the anti-Obamacare bill to a vote.  Thankfully, Trump is seemingly too incompetent at this point to do actual damage.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: urth on March 24, 2017, 04:36:57 PM
I just love that they can't even bring the anti-Obamacare bill to a vote.  Thankfully, Trump is seemingly too incompetent at this point to do actual damage.

Perhaps those who are saying that we need Trump to not be impeached so we don't get Pence in the White House might have a point.

All we have to do is endure the United States being an absolute laughing stock for the next 4 years or so.
Title: Re: The Rant & Vent about the Right Wing thread
Post by: Lightnin' Rod on June 07, 2018, 01:57:11 PM
This is pretty funny:  Trump tweets "Isn't it ironic?" and the twitterverse goes all Alanis on him.  He oughta know better.  Heh.


https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-tweets-isnt-it-ironic-alanis-morissette-references_us_5b194d3ee4b0734a993bf956