R&R HOF inductees announced

[SFGuy]

Nominees: Jeff Beck; Chic; Wanda Jackson; Little Anthony & the Imperials; Metallica; Run D.M.C; the Stooges; War; and Bobby Womack.

ETA: Nominees. My mistake. I read it wrong on a Yahoo blog. Thought it was the inductees.

http://www.time.com/time/arts/article/0,8599,1871810,00.html?cnn=yes

http://music.yahoo.com/read/news/61966064

[mshray]

Jeff Beck; Chic; Wanda Jackson; Little Anthony & the Imperials; Metallica; Run D.M.C; the Stooges; War; and Bobby Womack.

http://www.time.com/time/arts/article/0,8599,1871810,00.html?cnn=yes

http://music.yahoo.com/read/news/61966064

I didn't read the article, but that looks like the entire list of nominees.  Did anyone get nommed & miss the cut?

[RGMike]

Jeff Beck; Chic; Wanda Jackson; Little Anthony & the Imperials; Metallica; Run D.M.C; the Stooges; War; and Bobby Womack.

Well, *finally* War makes it in. And hooray for Bobby W!  Still no Hollies, though...

[mshray]

Jeff Beck; Chic; Wanda Jackson; Little Anthony & the Imperials; Metallica; Run D.M.C; the Stooges; War; and Bobby Womack.

Well, *finally* War makes it in. And hooray for Bobby W!  Still no Hollies, though...

Actually no.  Must have been a cut & paste error by SFGuy.  Chic, Stooges & War did NOT get in, and Wanda Jackson gets in only as "an early influence".  I generally feel that they should all get in* but not sure I agree about Beck, as he's already in a Yardbird.

*unlike sports halls of fame, I have no idea what sort of 'standard' you'd be lowering to have all these R'n'R nominees get in.

[urth]

Jeff Beck; Chic; Wanda Jackson; Little Anthony & the Imperials; Metallica; Run D.M.C; the Stooges; War; and Bobby Womack.

Well, *finally* War makes it in. And hooray for Bobby W!  Still no Hollies, though...

Actually no.  Must have been a cut & paste error by SFGuy.  Chic, Stooges & War did NOT get in, and Wanda Jackson gets in only as "an early influence".  I generally feel that they should all get in* but not sure I agree about Beck, as he's already in a Yardbird.

*unlike sports halls of fame, I have no idea what sort of 'standard' you'd be lowering to have all these R'n'R nominees get in.

Incredible that the Stooges aren't already in, let alone having missed the cut again this year. I'd bet there are a number of folks second-guessing their votes in the wake of Ron Asheton's death. I would not be surprised if next year they're a shoo-in.

[Gazoo]

Sorry to see that they stopped the War.  (Couldn't resist.)  Next year I'll continue urging for them, the Monkees, and Three Dog Night - and will start urging for Sade.

[SFGuy]

Jeff Beck; Chic; Wanda Jackson; Little Anthony & the Imperials; Metallica; Run D.M.C; the Stooges; War; and Bobby Womack.

Well, *finally* War makes it in. And hooray for Bobby W!  Still no Hollies, though...

Actually no.  Must have been a cut & paste error by SFGuy.  Chic, Stooges & War did NOT get in, and Wanda Jackson gets in only as "an early influence".  I generally feel that they should all get in* but not sure I agree about Beck, as he's already in a Yardbird.

*unlike sports halls of fame, I have no idea what sort of 'standard' you'd be lowering to have all these R'n'R nominees get in.

Oops sorry. Those were the nominees.

[RGMike]

Next year I'll ... start urging for Sade.

Is there a lounge HOF?    I love her, really, but Rock'n'Roll?  even less so than any of the disco or hip-hop acts we've argued for previously. Might as well nominate Kenny G. They really need to change the name of the thing.

[Gazoo]

They really need to change the name of the thing.

You just seized on the point I'm trying to make.

[RGMike]

They really need to change the name of the thing.

You just seized on the point I'm trying to make.

Sorry, I sometimes miss irony without emoticons.

[Gazoo]

They really need to change the name of the thing.

You just seized on the point I'm trying to make.

Sorry, I sometimes miss irony without emoticons.

I'm not being ironic!  I seriously think Sade was (were?) important in the development of popular music, and "Rock & Roll Hall of Fame" is inaccurate in reflecting the contributions made by artists working outside the rock milieu.

[RGMike]

They really need to change the name of the thing.

You just seized on the point I'm trying to make.

Sorry, I sometimes miss irony without emoticons.

I'm not being ironic!  I seriously think Sade was (were?) important in the development of popular music, and "Rock & Roll Hall of Fame" is inaccurate in reflecting the contributions made by artists working outside the rock milieu.

OK now you're losing me... Again, I like her a lot but "important in the development of popular music" is overdoing it -- gee, if it weren't for Sade we wouldn't have... Basia!

[mshray]

They really need to change the name of the thing.

You just seized on the point I'm trying to make.

Sorry, I sometimes miss irony without emoticons.

I'm not being ironic!  I seriously think Sade was (were?) important in the development of popular music, and "Rock & Roll Hall of Fame" is inaccurate in reflecting the contributions made by artists working outside the rock milieu.

OK now you're losing me... Again, I like her a lot but "important in the development of popular music" is overdoing it -- gee, if it weren't for Sade we wouldn't have... Basia!

I can see Gaz's point, and pretty much agree.  Is Billie Holliday in as an early influence?  I think so.  Then who could she have been an influence on, if not Sade?  So I don't think the Kenny G comparison is apt. 

And I know you were being sarcastic, but Basia predated Sade by a few years in Matt Bianco before going solo. 

[RGMike]

They really need to change the name of the thing.

You just seized on the point I'm trying to make.

Sorry, I sometimes miss irony without emoticons.

I'm not being ironic!  I seriously think Sade was (were?) important in the development of popular music, and "Rock & Roll Hall of Fame" is inaccurate in reflecting the contributions made by artists working outside the rock milieu.

OK now you're losing me... Again, I like her a lot but "important in the development of popular music" is overdoing it -- gee, if it weren't for Sade we wouldn't have... Basia!

I can see Gaz's point, and pretty much agree.  Is Billie Holliday in as an early influence?  I think so.  Then who could she have been an influence on, if not Sade?  So I don't think the Kenny G comparison is apt. 

And I know you were being sarcastic, but Basia predated Sade by a few years in Matt Bianco before going solo. 

well...no.   Early influences should definitely be in there, but Sade doesn't get in just because Billie Holliday influenced her.  By that logic Madelyn Peyroux gets in too.  Sorry, I'm just not following that.

[Gazoo]

They really need to change the name of the thing.

You just seized on the point I'm trying to make.

Sorry, I sometimes miss irony without emoticons.

I'm not being ironic!  I seriously think Sade was (were?) important in the development of popular music, and "Rock & Roll Hall of Fame" is inaccurate in reflecting the contributions made by artists working outside the rock milieu.

OK now you're losing me... Again, I like her a lot but "important in the development of popular music" is overdoing it -- gee, if it weren't for Sade we wouldn't have... Basia!

I can see Gaz's point, and pretty much agree.  Is Billie Holliday in as an early influence?  I think so.  Then who could she have been an influence on, if not Sade?  So I don't think the Kenny G comparison is apt. 

And I know you were being sarcastic, but Basia predated Sade by a few years in Matt Bianco before going solo. 

well...no.   Early influences should definitely be in there, but Sade doesn't get in just because Billie Holliday influenced her.  By that logic Madelyn Peyroux gets in too.  Sorry, I'm just not following that.

I think Mark was just trying to direct traffic away from the "Sade = Kenny G b/c they both are lite" accident.  I'll reiterate: I think the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame needs to be redubbed something on the order of the Popular Music Hall of Fame and that it should reflect the best of all pop-music genres, from rock to pop to R&B to heavy metal to jazz to funk to country to quiet storm.  Sade was, IMHO, the best of her/their class.