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"The SF Weekly Warfield"
« on: June 30, 2005, 07:41:30 AM »
I couldn't find a link to the story, but KFOG reported this morning that BGP/Clear Channel has sold naming rights to the Warfield to SF weekly; in return the Warfield will advertise its shows in the Weekly ONLY. The Guardian is pissed.
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« Reply #1 on: June 30, 2005, 08:07:04 AM »
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I couldn't find a link to the story, but KFOG reported this morning that BGP/Clear Channel has sold naming rights to the Warfield to SF weekly; in return the Warfield will advertise its shows in the Weekly ONLY. The Guardian is pissed.


What a bad, bad business decision on the part of the Warfield management.  People don't want to choose between papers just to get show information.  If anything this'll only damage awareness of, and thus attendance at, Warfield shows.

The SFBG should respond by ceasing to review shows at the venue.  If artists express unwillingness to be booked there on grounds of insufficient media coverage, that agreement will be rethought.  At least that's my hunch.
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« Reply #2 on: June 30, 2005, 09:08:03 AM »
all about the mighty dollar. How long before the GG Bridge sells naming rights? Seriously.
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« Reply #3 on: June 30, 2005, 09:12:12 AM »
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all about the mighty dollar. How long before the GG Bridge sells naming rights? Seriously.


That's what the SFBG should do, agreed to fund the eastern span of the San Francisco Bay Guardian Bridge!

Why has no one thought of this before?
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« Reply #4 on: June 30, 2005, 09:31:06 AM »
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all about the mighty dollar. How long before the GG Bridge sells naming rights? Seriously.


That's what the SFBG should do, agreed to fund the eastern span of the San Francisco Bay Guardian Bridge!

Why has no one thought of this before?


"Drive on my bridge, Dammit!"

Unfortunately Bruce Brugmann, the Guardian's owner, is actually just as cheap as anyone at Clear Channel. He just puts up a better champion-of-the-downtrodden front.
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Re: "The SF Weekly Warfield"
« Reply #5 on: June 30, 2005, 09:33:01 AM »
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I couldn't find a link to the story, but KFOG reported this morning that BGP/Clear Channel has sold naming rights to the Warfield to SF weekly; in return the Warfield will advertise its shows in the Weekly ONLY. The Guardian is pissed.
What a bad, bad business decision on the part of the Warfield management.  People don't want to choose between papers just to get show information.  If anything this'll only damage awareness of, and thus attendance at, Warfield shows.

The SFBG should respond by ceasing to review shows at the venue.  If artists express unwillingness to be booked there on grounds of insufficient media coverage, that agreement will be rethought.  At least that's my hunch.

I think that's jounalistically unethical, but far from unusual.  If  the BG refuses to  review important shows, it just becomes less important.
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« Reply #6 on: June 30, 2005, 09:43:43 AM »
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I couldn't find a link to the story, but KFOG reported this morning that BGP/Clear Channel has sold naming rights to the Warfield to SF weekly; in return the Warfield will advertise its shows in the Weekly ONLY. The Guardian is pissed.


What a bad, bad business decision on the part of the Warfield management.  People don't want to choose between papers just to get show information.  If anything this'll only damage awareness of, and thus attendance at, Warfield shows.



I fully agree, by limiting Warfield advertising to the Weekly, thus eliminating the Guardian and the Sunday Chron (both of which, have siginificantly greater circulation than the Weakly), they're going to have significantly LESS public awareness of their bookings. And yeah, it will probably mean some shows won't sell out that otherwise could have.

Those morons in Texas have no effin' CLUE about how to run an entertainment business. That's not news by any stretch; this is just more evidence to support it.
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« Reply #7 on: June 30, 2005, 09:46:07 AM »
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I couldn't find a link to the story, but KFOG reported this morning that BGP/Clear Channel has sold naming rights to the Warfield to SF weekly; in return the Warfield will advertise its shows in the Weekly ONLY. The Guardian is pissed.
What a bad, bad business decision on the part of the Warfield management.  People don't want to choose between papers just to get show information.  If anything this'll only damage awareness of, and thus attendance at, Warfield shows.

The SFBG should respond by ceasing to review shows at the venue.  If artists express unwillingness to be booked there on grounds of insufficient media coverage, that agreement will be rethought.  At least that's my hunch.

I think that's jounalistically unethical, but far from unusual.  If  the BG refuses to  review important shows, it just becomes less important.


You're right, but then the agreement the Weekly has entered into is also questionable. And what percentage of shows at the Warfield qualify as "important", in any case? The SFBG should refer to it as "the venue formerly called the Warfield".
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« Reply #8 on: June 30, 2005, 09:50:25 AM »
Just checked the BGP site to see if they had a press release or something on this. Negatory, but in the banner across the top of the front page where they list upcoming shows, there it was:

7/22 Alkaline Trio SF Weekly Warfield

Stupid fucking Texans.
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« Reply #9 on: June 30, 2005, 09:54:34 AM »
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Stupid fucking Texans.


Hey, it's the land of Take Your Gun To Work & Drive-Thru Liquor Stores.

But I have a lot of friends in Texas, even a couple self-described rednecks.
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« Reply #10 on: June 30, 2005, 09:56:00 AM »
I was born in El Paso. Granted- it was at Fort Bliss to parents from Brooklyn. But, thereyago.
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« Reply #11 on: June 30, 2005, 09:56:02 AM »
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Stupid fucking Texans.


Hey, it's the land of Take Your Gun To Work & Drive-Thru Liquor Stores.

But I have a lot of friends in Texas, even a couple self-described rednecks.


your new sig is quite appropriate to any discussion of Texas!
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« Reply #12 on: June 30, 2005, 10:01:05 AM »
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your new sig is quite appropriate to any discussion of Texas!


That's from The Michael Stanley Band's first album, "Let's Get the Show on the Road."
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Re: "The SF Weekly Warfield"
« Reply #13 on: June 30, 2005, 10:17:22 AM »
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I couldn't find a link to the story, but KFOG reported this morning that BGP/Clear Channel has sold naming rights to the Warfield to SF weekly; in return the Warfield will advertise its shows in the Weekly ONLY. The Guardian is pissed.
What a bad, bad business decision on the part of the Warfield management.  People don't want to choose between papers just to get show information.  If anything this'll only damage awareness of, and thus attendance at, Warfield shows.

The SFBG should respond by ceasing to review shows at the venue.  If artists express unwillingness to be booked there on grounds of insufficient media coverage, that agreement will be rethought.  At least that's my hunch.

I think that's jounalistically unethical, but far from unusual.  If  the BG refuses to  review important shows, it just becomes less important.


I think "unethical" is a bit much -- it's not a news blackout, it's just entertainment, and a publication always has editorial leeway insofar as which concerts to cover.  The Voice, f'rex, often ignores big-name shows in favor of personal favorites or shows that give the author a chance to riff on a separate/related topic.  If something big happens at the Warf (such as a Dead Kennedys reunion), the SFBG ignores it at its own peril -- but within its own right.  But it is an interesting thing to consider.
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« Reply #14 on: June 30, 2005, 11:45:06 AM »
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Stupid fucking Texans.


Hey, it's the land of Take Your Gun To Work & Drive-Thru Liquor Stores.

But I have a lot of friends in Texas, even a couple self-described rednecks.


I should probably clarify: not all Texans are stupid, but it sure seems like the ones who rise to control various corporations (Clear Channel, Enron, oh, and our country) sure as hell are.
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