The Prop 8 thread

[RGMike]

Supes rule 5-4 against televising the Prop 8 trial:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/01/13/BAOQ1BHPS3.DTL&tsp=1

the public had ample opportunity to comment, there was no evidence that witnesses would be harmed, and those outside the courthouse were losing an opportunity to view a trial of "great public interest."

Peter Finch reported this morning that the Court had ruled "6 to 5" against the televising. Now *THAT* is news!

[Tinka Cat]

Supes rule 5-4 against televising the Prop 8 trial:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/01/13/BAOQ1BHPS3.DTL&tsp=1

the public had ample opportunity to comment, there was no evidence that witnesses would be harmed, and those outside the courthouse were losing an opportunity to view a trial of "great public interest."

Peter Finch reported this morning that the Court had ruled "6 to 5" against the televising. Now *THAT* is news!

Oh Peter...  So that means we'll hear "22 Guns" after the 10 at 10 set today.

[RGMike]

Cindy McCain (!) comes out in support of marriage equality:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/nov05election/detail?entry_id=55696

[Gazoo]

More good times:

http://www.dadwagon.com/2010/01/21/the-foolishness-continues/

There’s plenty of good stuff there for legal geeks and equality hawks, but I was particularly drawn to this buffoonish cross-examination from Day 5 of the trial, after a sociologist named Michael Lamb testified that homosexuals are just as good at parenting as heterosexuals:

    The cross-examination of Michael Lamb, the plaintiffs expert, began with the revelation (gasp!) that he’s a liberal. Proposition 8 lawyer David Thompson opened up his questioning of Lamb by asking him whether he’s a member of the ACLU, NOW, NAACP and Amnesty International. (He is.) Then Thompson really hit hard. “You’ve even given money to PBS, is that correct?” the lawyer asked, prompting a burst of laughter in the courtroom. (Lamb did give to PBS, and acknowledged he’s liberal.) Lamb also conceded he advocates same-sex marriage.

So this is what it has come to? In Massachusetts, a man is elected to the Senate because he drives a pickup truck, and the state of California tries to discredit scientific data by asking a witness if he contributes to PBS.

[Gazoo]

Another Prop 8 update:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/01/21/proposition-8-backer-haks_n_432215.html

A proponent of California's same-sex marriage ban testified Thursday that he thinks gays are more likely to be pedophiles and that allowing them to wed would lead to efforts to lower the age at which teenagers can legally have sex with adults.

[Gazoo]

Also also:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/01/20/proposition-8-gay-man-say_n_429974.html

Other evidence presented by the plaintiffs Wednesday provided new details confirming reports from the 2008 campaign that Catholic and Mormon church leaders were heavily involved in promoting Proposition 8, directing money, volunteers and advisers to the effort.

[ggould]

an anti-Prop 8 poster made by the Obama poster guy

[RGMike]

great piece on the subject from CNN.com by ESPN's LZ Granderson.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/OPINION/04/06/granderson.gay.lifestyle/index.html?hpt=C2

[Tinka Cat]

great piece on the subject from CNN.com by ESPN's LZ Granderson.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/OPINION/04/06/granderson.gay.lifestyle/index.html?hpt=C2

yes, the great mysterious "homosexual" scares a lot of folks.   If they get to know gay people, they'll realize they're just as regular and boring as everyone else.  They come home and watch too much TV, don't eat right, are too tired to fix that broken thing they're SO keeps nagging them about, hope the Giants can win a freakin' series before they die, I mean, come on already! -- or maybe they don't give a crap about sports, but they also don't give a crap about drag shows, or fashion, or keeping a clean apt or whatever. 

[RGMike]

Clkosing arguments in the Prop 8 trial:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/06/16/BAHO1E0CIM.DTL&tsp=1

the pro-Prop 8 lawyer actually argued that "allowing only men and women to wed promotes responsible sex and child-rearing, and ultimately ensures the future of humanity."  Because of coursethere's no IRRESPONSIBLE child-rearing going on among straiight people. At all.

[ggould]

http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/08/04/california.same.sex.ruling/index.html?hpt=T1&iref=BN1

[ggould]

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/08/12/MNFA1ERRMV.DTL

[SFGuy]

Prop. 8 appeal will be televised

Ninth U.S. Circuit Court of Appeal grants C-Span permission to carry the Dec. 6 proceedings in S.F. live.


http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2010/11/17/national/a165736S83.DTL&tsp=1

[RGMike]

Prop. 8 appeal will be televised

Take *that*, Gil Scott Heron!

[RGMike]

NY State passes same-sex marriage bill!  A number of enlightened Repubs voted "yes". The times they are a-changin'.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/25/nyregion/gay-marriage-approved-by-new-york-senate.html?_r=1&hp