10at10 Club

Main Discussion Area => KFOG's 10@10 => Topic started by: RGMike on February 06, 2014, 08:50:51 AM

Title: 6 Feb 2014: it's... 1972!
Post by: RGMike on February 06, 2014, 08:50:51 AM
Well, '70s today and '90s tomorrow (or vice-versa) would give us one of those 5-decade weeks.


yay! '72!  Stones to start -- rejoicing in 'snipeland.
Title: Re: 6 Feb 2014: it's... ??
Post by: CapnJack on February 06, 2014, 09:48:20 AM
Would Renee be daring and give us a rain-themed set today?
Title: Re: 6 Feb 2014: it's... ??
Post by: RGMike on February 06, 2014, 09:57:34 AM
Would Renee be daring and give us a rain-themed set today?

'twould be loverly. In the meantime, Mat Nathanson chews some strawberry bubble gum. Blech.
Title: Re: 6 Feb 2014: it's... ??
Post by: CapnJack on February 06, 2014, 10:04:27 AM
TOTHK - The Rolling Stones "Rocks Off" - 1972!

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/ca/ExileMainSt.jpg)
Title: Re: 6 Feb 2014: it's... 1972!
Post by: CapnJack on February 06, 2014, 10:08:39 AM
Hot Tuna "Keep On Truckin'"

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/ec/Hot_Tuna_Burgers.jpg)
Title: Re: 6 Feb 2014: it's... 1972!
Post by: RGMike on February 06, 2014, 10:09:07 AM
Stones BOS1; Hot Tuna BOS2: "Keep On Truckin, Mama"!
Title: Re: 6 Feb 2014: it's... 1972!
Post by: CapnJack on February 06, 2014, 10:12:24 AM
Jerry Garcia "Sugaree"

(http://rgcred.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/jerry-garcia-sugaree-deal-single.gif)

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/7/7a/GarciaGarciaCD.jpg/220px-GarciaGarciaCD.jpg)
Title: Re: 6 Feb 2014: it's... 1972!
Post by: ggould on February 06, 2014, 10:12:34 AM
Hot Tuna!
Title: Re: 6 Feb 2014: it's... 1972!
Post by: RGMike on February 06, 2014, 10:12:35 AM
Jerry!  BOS3 / proxy of geoff, "Sugaree"
Title: Re: 6 Feb 2014: it's... 1972!
Post by: ggould on February 06, 2014, 10:13:06 AM
Jerry Garcia "Sugaree"
I guess the stream is a little behind, eh?
Title: Re: 6 Feb 2014: it's... 1972!
Post by: CapnJack on February 06, 2014, 10:13:54 AM
Think BP has a hand in compiling today's set?
Title: Re: 6 Feb 2014: it's... 1972!
Post by: ggould on February 06, 2014, 10:14:10 AM
Jerry!  BOS3 / proxy of geoff, "Sugaree"
I like the song and all, but sometimes live it's not been my favorite.  Kind of a relentless sound.
Title: Re: 6 Feb 2014: it's... 1972!
Post by: urth on February 06, 2014, 10:18:46 AM
Jerry!  BOS3 / proxy of geoff, "Sugaree"
I like the song and all, but sometimes live it's not been my favorite.  Kind of a relentless sound.

It falls squarely in the middle of the pack for me. Didn't dislike it, but on the other hand I don't often remember saying post-show, "Wow, that Sugaree sure tore it up tonight."
Title: Re: 6 Feb 2014: it's... 1972!
Post by: CapnJack on February 06, 2014, 10:19:50 AM
Sammy Davis Jr. visits All In The Family into The Main Ingredient "Everybody Plays The Fool"

(http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/500/79992731/Everybody%2BPlays%2BThe%2BFool%2BReRecorded%2B%2BRemastered%2BEverybody%2BPlays%2BThe%2BFool.jpg)
Title: Re: 6 Feb 2014: it's... 1972!
Post by: RGMike on February 06, 2014, 10:20:08 AM
BOS4 Sammy on All in the Family

BOS5 Main Ingedient, feat Cuba Gooding Senior
Title: Re: 6 Feb 2014: it's... 1972!
Post by: urth on February 06, 2014, 10:21:11 AM
Jerry Garcia "Sugaree"
I guess the stream is a little behind, eh?

Seems to be a good 2 -3 minutes behind lately. Which I thought was due in part to my being 600 miles away, but last week when I was working down in SF (a block away from the KFOG studios) it was about the same amount of lag.
Title: Re: 6 Feb 2014: it's... 1972!
Post by: ggould on February 06, 2014, 10:21:34 AM
BOS4 Sammy on All in the Family

BOS5 Main Ingedient, feat Cuba Gooding Senior
Love this song
Title: Re: 6 Feb 2014: it's... 1972!
Post by: CapnJack on February 06, 2014, 10:22:41 AM
War "The Cisco Kid"

(http://www.musicdawn.ru/files/7inch/War-The_Cisco_Kid_Germany_PS.jpg)
Title: Re: 6 Feb 2014: it's... 1972!
Post by: RGMike on February 06, 2014, 10:22:49 AM
I'd call "Cisco Kid" an LN, but YMMV.  Chase those gringo bastards, yo.
Title: Re: 6 Feb 2014: it's... 1972!
Post by: CapnJack on February 06, 2014, 10:26:39 AM
Olympics tragedy into Argent "Hold Your Head Up"

(http://thumbs1.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/mUJuqz-s2PRlSEUtxwsR-5g.jpg)
Title: Re: 6 Feb 2014: it's... 1972!
Post by: RGMike on February 06, 2014, 10:26:47 AM
'72 Olympics Massacre --> "Hold Your Head Up". VHM Argent.  Ah, the Summer of '72.
Title: Re: 6 Feb 2014: it's... 1972!
Post by: ggould on February 06, 2014, 10:28:37 AM
'72 Olympics Massacre --> "Hold Your Head Up". VHM Argent.  Ah, the Summer of '72.

early prog rock
 :P
Title: Re: 6 Feb 2014: it's... 1972!
Post by: RGMike on February 06, 2014, 10:31:07 AM
'72 Olympics Massacre --> "Hold Your Head Up". VHM Argent.  Ah, the Summer of '72.

early prog rock
 :P

when prog was poetry (ELP, Yes, King Crimson) and not just gibberish (Rush)
Title: Re: 6 Feb 2014: it's... 1972!
Post by: urth on February 06, 2014, 10:31:14 AM
I'd call "Cisco Kid" an LN, but YMMV.  Chase those gringo bastards, yo.

DM only played it a couple of times; not sure how much it's turned up since then. Low Rider is a far more egregious offender, but it's in 75.
Title: Re: 6 Feb 2014: it's... 1972!
Post by: RGMike on February 06, 2014, 10:32:03 AM
I'd call "Cisco Kid" an LN, but YMMV.  Chase those gringo bastards, yo.

DM only played it a couple of times; not sure how much it's turned up since then. Low Rider is a far more egregious offender, but it's in 75.

I'm also factoring in how often I hear it elsewhere, which is a LOT.
Title: Re: 6 Feb 2014: it's... 1972!
Post by: CapnJack on February 06, 2014, 10:33:09 AM
Stephen Stills "Johnny's Garden"

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/4c/Manassasss.jpg)
Title: Re: 6 Feb 2014: it's... 1972!
Post by: RGMike on February 06, 2014, 10:33:27 AM
VHM Mr Stills, "Johnny's Garden"
Title: Re: 6 Feb 2014: it's... 1972!
Post by: CapnJack on February 06, 2014, 10:35:56 AM
Watergate break-in into Randy Newman "Political Science"

(http://randynewman.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/Sail_Away_RN.jpg)
Title: Re: 6 Feb 2014: it's... 1972!
Post by: RGMike on February 06, 2014, 10:36:33 AM
BOS6 Randy Newman, "Political Science"  -- don't wanna hurt no kangaroo!
Title: Re: 6 Feb 2014: it's... 1972!
Post by: CapnJack on February 06, 2014, 10:37:52 AM
Bill Withers "Use Me"

(http://www.blog-zik.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/bill-withers.jpg)

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/19/Still_Bill.jpg)
Title: Re: 6 Feb 2014: it's... 1972!
Post by: RGMike on February 06, 2014, 10:38:05 AM
BOS7 Still Bill, still gettin' used.
Title: Re: 6 Feb 2014: it's... 1972!
Post by: CapnJack on February 06, 2014, 10:41:30 AM
Curtis Mayfield "Freddie's Dead"

(http://www.securecrazydiamond.com/dizq/58561.jpg)

(http://www.dudesnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Curtis-Mayfield-Superfly-1972.jpg)
Title: Re: 6 Feb 2014: it's... 1972!
Post by: ggould on February 06, 2014, 10:41:38 AM
Bill Withers "Use Me"
One of his mathematical songs.

e.g.  when she's gone = ain't no sunshine  AND amount of time gone = too long
Title: Re: 6 Feb 2014: it's... 1972!
Post by: RGMike on February 06, 2014, 10:42:17 AM
OMG! another black person!  VHM "Freddie's Dead", Saw Superfly on Centric recently and they bleeped the living crap out of it. (They even bleeped the N-word in the song "Pusherman" -- I mean, serously?)
Title: Re: 6 Feb 2014: it's... 1972!
Post by: ggould on February 06, 2014, 10:43:11 AM
for me, 1972 radio (KSAN) would be ABB "One Way Out" for example.
Title: Re: 6 Feb 2014: it's... 1972!
Post by: CapnJack on February 06, 2014, 10:45:21 AM
Renee blames Michael Franti for her poor execution of today's set...?
Title: Re: 6 Feb 2014: it's... 1972!
Post by: urth on February 06, 2014, 10:48:27 AM
Renee blames Michael Franti for her poor execution of today's set...?

Well, she ID'd the artist of song 2, Hot Tuna, but she never mentioned the song title. So perhaps Michael F. did get her all flustered and twitterpated.
Title: Re: 6 Feb 2014: it's... 1972!
Post by: RGMike on February 06, 2014, 10:52:07 AM
Renee blames Michael Franti for her poor execution of today's set...?

he was live in-studio in the 9:00 hour, apparently.
Title: Re: 6 Feb 2014: it's... 1972!
Post by: CapnJack on February 06, 2014, 10:55:07 AM
Renee: 2-way tie for BOS between The Main Ingredient and Curtis Mayfield; VHM Bill Withers

Renee promises a future "Soul Patrol" set based on today's voting...
Title: Re: 6 Feb 2014: it's... 1972!
Post by: RGMike on February 06, 2014, 11:05:17 AM
Renee: 2-way tie for BOS between The Main Ingredient and Curtis Mayfield; VHM Bill Withers

Renee promises a future "Soul Patrol" set based on today's voting...

well, about fucking time!
Title: Re: 6 Feb 2014: it's... 1972!
Post by: urth on February 06, 2014, 01:13:53 PM
Renee blames Michael Franti for her poor execution of today's set...?

Well, she ID'd the artist of song 2, Hot Tuna, but she never mentioned the song title. So perhaps Michael F. did get her all flustered and twitterpated.

I think I just heard what she meant -- the segue from the All in the Family clip into Everybody Plays the Fool with a 10@10 bumper in between was kinda sloppy.
Title: Re: 6 Feb 2014: it's... 1972!
Post by: dischead on February 06, 2014, 10:32:27 PM
Hot Tuna!

Another example of a local band getting short shrift.  Only Keep On Truckin' and Water Song
have ever appeared on 10@10, and little more gets played on KFOG generally.  Given their
intimate connection to Jefferson $flying_conveyence and an audience full of receptive Deadheads,
one would expect to hear a lot of them on the station.


Jerry!  BOS3 / proxy of geoff, "Sugaree"
I like the song and all, but sometimes live it's not been my favorite.  Kind of a relentless sound.

I would add that it's kind of LN in that it's heard quite a bit outside of 10@10.
Title: Re: 6 Feb 2014: it's... 1972!
Post by: dischead on February 06, 2014, 10:39:00 PM
'72 Olympics Massacre --> "Hold Your Head Up". VHM Argent.  Ah, the Summer of '72.
early prog rock
 :P

Its hey-day only lasted about eight years, so I'd peg this as middle-Progrockian period.
Title: Re: 6 Feb 2014: it's... 1972!
Post by: dischead on February 06, 2014, 11:02:47 PM
I'd call "Cisco Kid" an LN, but YMMV.  Chase those gringo bastards, yo.
DM only played it a couple of times; not sure how much it's turned up since then. Low Rider is a far more egregious offender, but it's in 75.
I'm also factoring in how often I hear it elsewhere, which is a LOT.

I think there's value in a distinction between LN, which is an overall assessment, and a FF within
the context of 10@10, and this set really demonstrates that.  Surprisingly, the closest thing to
a FF today is Hold Your Head Up.  Just about everything else is firmly in the low-spin category,
yet the Hot Tuna, Garcia, and War tunes get a lot of play elsewhere.  And once again, there are
plenty of so-called "deeper cuts" from all those artists that would have been good choices.

BOS to Stephen Stills, yet another underappreciated artist whose catalogue would make a
welcome addition to 10@10.  It's sad to see a station with a history like KFOG's in a city that
was and is one of the major music centers on the planet using the Cliff Notes when it comes to
making programming choices.  This was a good set from a very strong year, but with two or
three better selections it could have been great.
Title: Re: 6 Feb 2014: it's... 1972!
Post by: dischead on February 08, 2014, 10:05:17 AM
2/6/14 - Thursday!  It's 1972

1. The Rolling Stones - Rocks Off
2. Hot Tuna - Keep On Truckin'
3. Jerry Garcia - Sugaree
4. The Main Ingredient - Everybody Plays the Fool (2-way tie for BOS)
5. War - Cisco Kid
6. Argent - Hold Your Head Up
7. Steve Stills - Johnny's Garden
8. Randy Newman - Political Science
9. Bill Withers - Use Me
10.Curtis Mayfield - Freddy's Dead (2-way tie for BOS)
Title: Re: 6 Feb 2014: it's... 1972!
Post by: ggould on February 09, 2014, 07:54:27 AM
'72 Olympics Massacre --> "Hold Your Head Up". VHM Argent.  Ah, the Summer of '72.
early prog rock
 :P

Its hey-day only lasted about eight years, so I'd peg this as middle-Progrockian period.
I do not claim to be a prog-rock expert.  What do you call earlier prog-rock?  King Crimson I guess.
Title: Re: 6 Feb 2014: it's... 1972!
Post by: urth on February 09, 2014, 01:42:02 PM
'72 Olympics Massacre --> "Hold Your Head Up". VHM Argent.  Ah, the Summer of '72.
early prog rock
 :P

Its hey-day only lasted about eight years, so I'd peg this as middle-Progrockian period.
I do not claim to be a prog-rock expert.  What do you call earlier prog-rock?  King Crimson I guess.

Yep, and perhaps the Moody Blues, who kind of established the bridge between psychedelic and prog. Perhaps earlier Pink Floyd, too?
Title: Re: 6 Feb 2014: it's... 1972!
Post by: ggould on February 09, 2014, 04:22:31 PM
'72 Olympics Massacre --> "Hold Your Head Up". VHM Argent.  Ah, the Summer of '72.
early prog rock
 :P
Its hey-day only lasted about eight years, so I'd peg this as middle-Progrockian period.
I do not claim to be a prog-rock expert.  What do you call earlier prog-rock?  King Crimson I guess.

Yep, and perhaps the Moody Blues, who kind of established the bridge between psychedelic and prog. Perhaps earlier Pink Floyd, too?
Yeah, I guess Pink Floyd.  I guess I always think of prog rock as some sort of pretentious musical stuff.
Title: Re: 6 Feb 2014: it's... 1972!
Post by: dischead on February 09, 2014, 05:44:29 PM
'72 Olympics Massacre --> "Hold Your Head Up". VHM Argent.  Ah, the Summer of '72.
early prog rock
 :P
Its hey-day only lasted about eight years, so I'd peg this as middle-Progrockian period.
I do not claim to be a prog-rock expert.  What do you call earlier prog-rock?  King Crimson I guess.

I do not claim to be a prog-rock expert either, and pausing to consider questions about it
reveals that there is still much I can learn and discover.  To start with, I would be hard-pressed
to give an accurate and cogent definition of the genre.  Skimming through the wikipedia article
on progressive rock I found little that was truly objectionable; I agree with most of the introductory
material.

Speaking off the cuff and without looking up a bunch of release dates, I would put the rise of prog
rock starting around 1968 or so.  So Pink Floyd, Keith Emerson and The Nice, Procol Harum, Jethro
Tull, The Moody Blues (Days of Future Passed) are all early examples of prog rock.  1969 and
1970 see the appearence of some of the biggest, most popular acts:  Genesis, Gentle Giant, King
Crimson, ELP, ELO, and Yes.  Although there are exceptions, a lot of prog rock groups as well as
interest in the style faded away in the mid-1970s -- certainly by 1976.  So that's about eight years,
and why I said that Argent in 1972 is middle Progrockian.
Title: Re: 6 Feb 2014: it's... 1972!
Post by: RGMike on February 09, 2014, 08:33:28 PM
BOS to Stephen Stills, yet another underappreciated artist whose catalogue would make a
welcome addition to 10@10. 

I was just thinking I can't remember the last time I heard "Sit Yourself Down", which was actually a Top 40 hit.
Title: Re: 6 Feb 2014: it's... 1972!
Post by: dischead on February 10, 2014, 12:42:07 AM
BOS to Stephen Stills, yet another underappreciated artist whose catalogue would make a
welcome addition to 10@10.
I was just thinking I can't remember the last time I heard "Sit Yourself Down", which was actually a Top 40 hit.

The obvious hit is Love the One You're With, which has been played a handful of times.  And
It Doesn't Matter has appeared once.  But as with Hot Tuna and the New Riders, Stills' work
in general is exactly the kind of music that many Fogheads greatly enjoy, and he arguably has
greater name recognition.  Yet another puzzling omission from the 10@10 playlist as well as
KFOG's.

And speaking of Stephen Stills:

Front and Center:  The Rides
(#209H) Duration: 55:16 STEREO TVG

Stephen Stills' blues-rock "super group," whose debut album was inspired by his 1968 Super
Session album, features guitar wizard Kenny Wayne Shepherd and the Electric Flag's Barry
Goldberg at The Iridium.

Upcoming Broadcasts:

* KQED Plus: Thu, Feb 13, 2014 -- 11:00pm
* KQED Plus: Fri, Feb 14, 2014 -- 5:00am