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Main Discussion Area => Stream of Consciousness => Topic started by: princessofcairo on January 24, 2007, 12:49:18 PM
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I'm obsessed with The Cohens (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6279061.stm). Here's the only thing I've read (aside from the article which appeared in Saturday's El Pais) that expresses how creepy the whole story is:
Israeli Court Allows Woman to be inseminated with Soldier’s Sperm…
Here’s an interesting look into the state of “morality” in this world…
I found an interesting article on FOXNews.com;
Israeli Court Allows Woman to be inseminated with Dead Soldier’s Sperm Without his Written Consent
The headline itself is of questionable morality. Without his consent? How was the sperm obtained?
Well….it gets worse, much worse. The man whose sperm was used has been dead since 2002, when he was killed by a sniper in Gaza. Yes, you read correctly…he’s dead. Well, that explains why they didn’t have his written consent.
Private Keivin Cohen – age 20 when he died – will father a child 6 years after his death. His sperm was obtained AFTER his death. His parents, who left Iran when Keivin was 5 years old, petitioned a family court in Ramat Gan, a town near Tel Aviv “to fulfill his desire to start a family,” even though Private Cohen never himself make the request for such a judicial step.
Not only will he father a child after his death, he never knew the woman who will ultimately become the mother of his child. She was selected by a family charity and the Cohen family. His mother, Rachael, is finally able to live her dream of becoming a grandmother.
The Cohen family has fought for four years to have this occur. Cohen’s mother said that she is acting as her own son would have wished:
Every time I go to his grave and touch his cold tombstone, I tell myself how wonderful it would be to hold a warm child in my arms instead, For Keivin, it was his soul’s desire to have children.
A statement like this makes me wonder if Keivin’s mother is acting upon her own grief, and not the wishes of her son. This is probably one of the creepiest things that I have ever heard. I question the morality of such actions.
What do you tell the child when he/she asks about their father? How do you tell a 3- or 4-year-old that his/her father died 6 years before he was even conceived? What do you tell the child about how this came about? A child’s natural curiosity makes them ask questions terribly difficult to answer, I would not want to be the parent who has to explain this one.
Mrs. Cohen says that she was guided in her decision by her dead son:
An hour after being told that he had been killed, I took his picture and started talking to him. I asked him, ‘Where are all the children you wanted?’ Then looked at the picture and heard him saying ‘Mum, it’s not too late. There is something you can take from me.’ Then it came to me – your sperm, that’s what you want me to take from you.’ Right there, I asked the officers who came to visit to make sure his sperm be kept.
I wonder who obtained the sperm and how it was done? I wouldn’t want THAT job.
I have some SERIOUS problems with this: If my child had died, I’m not sure that my first thought would be about obtaining sperm so that I could have his children brought into the world. It’s disgusting! I guess I wonder what she would have done if it had been her daughter instead of her son.
My next question is this: How do you pick the person to inseminate? By lottery? Did she have to take some kind of test? Did she have to look a certain way? What guidelines did they use to choose her? How do you make this kind of choice? It’s just awful. Did they have a “Miss Have the Baby Pageant?”
The family was assisted in its campaign by New Family, an Israeli NGO that described the ruling as “dramatic development” for those who wish to make a ‘biological will.’ The problem here is that all the parents have is their word. There is no written document or any other proof that their son would have wanted this to take place. This case reminds me of the Terry Schiavo case. No one knows what his wishes would have been. Maybe he would have wanted children only if he could raise them.
A year later, the family approached a medical sperm bank seeking permission to use it for insemination. When the request was turned down, New Family began a legal action that concluded successfully for the family this week. Is this New Family the Israeli ACLU?
There was a problem for a while in that the Attorney-General said that the only person who could ask permission for this was a spouse. Private Cohen wasn’t married and he had not prepared a biological will, but the family had testimony, including video recordings, in which he expressed his desire to have children. Yeah, but like this???
Irit Rosenblum of New Family said:
The parents felt it was their mission to fulfill his wish. They had to go through psychological tests and then the next hurdle was to find a mother. It took a year and a half but we found one. There is a legally drafted contract between the mother and Keivin’s parents guaranteeing that their only responsibility is to be the grandparents of the child when he or she is born.
OK, but what if she has the child, or even becomes pregnant and decides to go to another country and they never see the child again? As the mother of the child, she has a right to do so if she wishes.
Why did Cohen’s parents have to have psychological testing? What does testing them accomplish?
I wonder if the Cohen family was thinking of their son or themselves? Do they REALLY wish to fulfill the wishes of their son, or do they want their son “back”?
My guess is that this is a selfish act. I know I wouldn’t want this done to me. I want to be able to raise my children myself. I wouldn’t want to be inseminated by a dead man, either. Makes me wonder: what happened to decency and morality?
Surprisingly, taken from an extreme right wing website (http://www.xtremerightwing.net/).
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I realize I never get tired of pointing out what an idiot Mick Lasalle is but good lord -- check out this quote from his blog today, writing about the latest Rock'n'Roll HOF inductees:
"Yesterday, the Ronettes got in. If they had a hit besides "Be My Baby," I haven't heard it. Does getting into the Hall of Fame mean that you were kind of OK? If you had one hit that earned a modest place in western civilization, is that enough?"
Heaven help us -- this man gets PAID for being a moron. He thinks the Ronettes only had one hit? He doesn't understand how a body-of-work connected to Phil Spector gets you into the RnRHOF? Whaaa???
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I realize I never get tired of pointing out what an idiot Mick Lasalle is but good lord -- check out this quote from his blog today, writing about the latest Rock'n'Roll HOF inductees:
"Yesterday, the Ronettes got in. If they had a hit besides "Be My Baby," I haven't heard it. Does getting into the Hall of Fame mean that you were kind of OK? If you had one hit that earned a modest place in western civilization, is that enough?"
Heaven help us -- this man gets PAID for being a moron. He thinks the Ronettes only had one hit? He doesn't understand how a body-of-work connected to Phil Spector gets you into the RnRHOF? Whaaa???
I stopped reading at "I haven't heard it."
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I realize I never get tired of pointing out what an idiot Mick Lasalle is but good lord -- check out this quote from his blog today, writing about the latest Rock'n'Roll HOF inductees:
"Yesterday, the Ronettes got in. If they had a hit besides "Be My Baby," I haven't heard it. Does getting into the Hall of Fame mean that you were kind of OK? If you had one hit that earned a modest place in western civilization, is that enough?"
Heaven help us -- this man gets PAID for being a moron. He thinks the Ronettes only had one hit? He doesn't understand how a body-of-work connected to Phil Spector gets you into the RnRHOF? Whaaa???
I stopped reading at "I haven't heard it."
Thanks to Urth for backing me up in the comments section on the Mickster's blog!
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TANC -- I've been listening to the Spector box set the past 2 days. Today, disc 3, which includes the Ronettes doing an early Harry Nilsson comp, "Paradise", the same one later covered by the post-Diana Supremes. I want to strap LaSalle into a chair and make him listen to every Ronettes track in this set. Twice.
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I realize I never get tired of pointing out what an idiot Mick Lasalle is but good lord -- check out this quote from his blog today, writing about the latest Rock'n'Roll HOF inductees:
"Yesterday, the Ronettes got in. If they had a hit besides "Be My Baby," I haven't heard it. Does getting into the Hall of Fame mean that you were kind of OK? If you had one hit that earned a modest place in western civilization, is that enough?"
Heaven help us -- this man gets PAID for being a moron. He thinks the Ronettes only had one hit? He doesn't understand how a body-of-work connected to Phil Spector gets you into the RnRHOF? Whaaa???
I stopped reading at "I haven't heard it."
Thanks to Urth for backing me up in the comments section on the Mickster's blog!
My pleasure--the man is an idiot (as you so rightly pointed out) who doesn't deserve a job writing for a major newspaper. Oh, that's right--we're not talking about a major newspaper, we're talking about the Chronicle. In any case, he is the Peter Principle incarnate.
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well, you might find this cool or funny, but I just find it sad: Keith Richards admits he mixed some of his father's ashes with coke and snorted him, er, it.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/04/03/entertainment/e115910D72.DTL&type=entertainment
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well, you might find this cool or funny, but I just find it sad: Keith Richards admits he mixed some of his father's ashes with coke and snorted him, er, it.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/04/03/entertainment/e115910D72.DTL&type=entertainment
When we were kids, sitting around smoking dope, my friends and I speculated that if one of died, the others should get some ashes, roll it up in a J, and ...
Of course, we were young, under the influence of A Stranger in a Strange Land, and HIGH!!!
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well, you might find this cool or funny, but I just find it sad: Keith Richards admits he mixed some of his father's ashes with coke and snorted him, er, it.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/04/03/entertainment/e115910D72.DTL&type=entertainment
When we were kids, sitting around smoking dope, my friends and I speculated that if one of died, the others should get some ashes, roll it up in a J, and ...
Of course, we were young, under the influence of A Stranger in a Strange Land, and HIGH!!!
Now Keef sez "Ah wuz only joking":
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/04/04/entertainment/e071114D84.DTL&type=entertainment
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wikipedia warwick (http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/06/28/wrestler.ap/index.html).
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Oh joy -- Gloria Gaynor wants to bring homos to Jeezus:
http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-4931.html
Guess she regrets recording "I Am What I Am"...
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Oh joy -- Gloria Gaynor wants to bring homos to Jeezus:
http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-4931.html
Guess she regrets recording "I Am What I Am"...
I really fail to see the homophobia, direct or implied, in Gaynor's statements. I'm generally anti-proselytization, so I wasn't digging what she had to say, but neither did she judge anyone's sexuality or suggest that it can change. The word homophobia loses a lot of its traction when it's applied haphazardly as a commenter did below the story.
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Oh joy -- Gloria Gaynor wants to bring homos to Jeezus:
http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-4931.html
Guess she regrets recording "I Am What I Am"...
I really fail to see the homophobia, direct or implied, in Gaynor's statements. I'm generally anti-proselytization, so I wasn't digging what she had to say, but neither did she judge anyone's sexuality or suggest that it can change. The word homophobia loses a lot of its traction when it's applied haphazardly as a commenter did below the story.
God knows I agree that we toss the "H" word around too easily, but Gloria seems to be tip-toe-ing around whatever it is she wants to say. She repeatedly refuses to answer the questions about whether gays are sinners, but on the other hand, she doesn't say "you can be gay and still love Jesus", which would've been a pretty simple statement. Sounds like she's trying to appeal to the Fundies without inciting a homo boycott.
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Oh joy -- Gloria Gaynor wants to bring homos to Jeezus:
http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-4931.html
Guess she regrets recording "I Am What I Am"...
I really fail to see the homophobia, direct or implied, in Gaynor's statements. I'm generally anti-proselytization, so I wasn't digging what she had to say, but neither did she judge anyone's sexuality or suggest that it can change. The word homophobia loses a lot of its traction when it's applied haphazardly as a commenter did below the story.
God knows I agree that we toss the "H" word around too easily, but Gloria seems to be tip-toe-ing around whatever it is she wants to say. She repeatedly refuses to answer the questions about whether gays are sinners, but on the other hand, she doesn't say "you can be gay and still love Jesus", which would've been a pretty simple statement. Sounds like she's trying to appeal to the Fundies without inciting a homo boycott.
I personally give people the right to tiptoe around statements when they don't want to make blanket statements. It's poor play on her part to talk halfway when she isn't ready to make such a statement. But I won't fill in the blanks for her to say what I think she's itching to say.
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she doesn't say "you can be gay and still love Jesus", which would've been a pretty simple statement.
PS: You're absolutely right that she failed to confirm this and that it would have been the most simple thing to say that would have appeased us all. She failed there. But I'm not ready to extrapolate that to other sins.
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i'm not sure where to post this, but since it makes me feel unesasy, i'll put it here:
simpsons soap (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/6917140.stm)
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i'm not sure where to post this, but since it makes me feel unesasy, i'll put it here:
simpsons soap (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/6917140.stm)
Hey, it's putting money on some tables that need it. But I'll be impressed when someone convinces 20th C Fox that it'd be a great idea to take the proceeds from the sales of those soap figurines and pump them back into that local economy.
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But I'll be impressed when someone convinces 20th C Fox that it'd be a great idea to take the proceeds from the sales of those soap figurines and pump them back into that local economy.
yeah. i think that's the part that makes me uneasy.
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"Rocks Stars More Likely to Die Prematurely" -- no, this isn't from the Onion, it's from Reuters:
http://www.reuters.com/article/entertainmentNews/idUSL0127266120070904?src=090407_0555_ARTICLE_PROMO_also_on_reuters
er... DUH.
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Abuse of power?
http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=5459
(There's not much to see after the first minute or two, but that's when the audio starts getting interesting. Not suitable for work, btw.)
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Do any of you know anything further about this rumor posted at Gawker.com?
Reports are filtering in that Air America host Randi Rhodes was severely beaten Monday night while walking her dog on 39th and Park. "Rhodes was beaten up pretty badly, losing several teeth and will probably be off the air for at least the rest of the week," writes Talking Radio. Air America, when reached for comment on the listener call-in line, said, "We don't want to feed the inaccurate rumor mill. Also, we don't know." Though the attacks haven't been reported elsewhere, Rhodes' website does mention that she isn't feeling well and has gone as far as creating a little church sign to that effect. Sam Seder is filling in for her. Murky!
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Do any of you know anything further about this rumor posted at Gawker.com?
Reports are filtering in that Air America host Randi Rhodes was severely beaten Monday night while walking her dog on 39th and Park. "Rhodes was beaten up pretty badly, losing several teeth and will probably be off the air for at least the rest of the week," writes Talking Radio. Air America, when reached for comment on the listener call-in line, said, "We don't want to feed the inaccurate rumor mill. Also, we don't know." Though the attacks haven't been reported elsewhere, Rhodes' website does mention that she isn't feeling well and has gone as far as creating a little church sign to that effect. Sam Seder is filling in for her. Murky!
NY Daily News sez she wasn't attacked:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/2007/10/16/2007-10-16_air_america_host_randi_rhodes_wasnt_mugg.html
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i can't believe the kid's name is coon. (http://news.monstersandcritics.com/usa/news/article_1364930.php/Fox_network_Gibsons_controversial_comments_on_Asa_Coon_case)
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"the way she sauntered across the tracks..."
don't drive drunk. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7048882.stm)
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Surprisingly bad taste from Tom Sienestra...
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/chronicle/a/2008/01/03/SPPUU7JUV.DTL
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Surprisingly bad taste from Tom Sienestra...
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/chronicle/a/2008/01/03/SPPUU7JUV.DTL
Wow. Tom's been sniffin' glue, methinks. And so's the editor who approved that piece. Weird.
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Well, some might find it funny. "Grandma Got Run Over by... her Grandson?"
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/05/13/BA1B10LB40.DTL
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Apparently Gerry Rafferty didn't give up the booze or the one-night stands. Or pay Raphael Ravenscroft anything for the "Baker Street" riff:
http://news.scotsman.com/opinion/Stuck-in-a-battle-with.4352529.jp
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Apparently Gerry Rafferty didn't give up the booze or the one-night stands. Or pay Raphael Ravenscroft anything for the "Baker Street" riff:
http://news.scotsman.com/opinion/Stuck-in-a-battle-with.4352529.jp
there are slight echoes of the Peter Green saga, as far as the endless royalties, and unhappiness. I'd always hoped to see Gerry Rafferty one day, but maybe it won't happen.
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Black Woman Walking:
http://blip.tv/file/290944/
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Not sure what thread to put this under:
Deftones Bassist in Coma After Car Crash in Santa Clara, CA
http://news.yahoo.com/s/eonline/20081105/en_top_eo/67253 (http://news.yahoo.com/s/eonline/20081105/en_top_eo/67253)
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This is mainly sad, tho' it'll be filed under "bizarre news" mostly:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2008/12/16/national/a162200S22.DTL&tsp=1
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This is mainly sad, tho' it'll be filed under "bizarre news" mostly:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2008/12/16/national/a162200S22.DTL&tsp=1
I'd like to believe the story is a hoax. It almost has to be. Doesn't it?
The Campbells' two other children are named JoyceLynn Aryan Nation Campbell, who turns 2 in a few months, and Honszlynn Hinler Jeannie Campbell, who will be 1 in April.
Campbell said he was raised not to avoid people of other races but not to mix with them socially or romantically. But he said he would try to raise his children differently
Well, naming them differently would have been a good start.
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This is mainly sad, tho' it'll be filed under "bizarre news" mostly:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2008/12/16/national/a162200S22.DTL&tsp=1
Saw that on the Chron's headline crawl. Unbelievable. I'd bet that kid changes his name as soon as he's 18, if not sooner.
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Great teeth on both of those "parents." Always amazes me that white supremacists always somehow manage to be the most butt-ugly people to have ever fallen out of the Ugly Tree.
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This is just sick.
http://www.firemeetsdesire.com/
Brought to you by the fine people at...Burger King?
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This is just sick.
http://www.firemeetsdesire.com/
Brought to you by the fine people at...Burger King?
How it can smell like a bathtub, a rainbow and the King by a fireplace is what I don't understand.
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Great teeth on both of those "parents." Always amazes me that white supremacists always somehow manage to be the most butt-ugly people to have ever fallen out of the Ugly Tree.
Olbermann did a segment on this story tonite. Apparently this is the third year in a row the father asked Shop-Rite to do the "Hitler" cake -- and the 3rd time they've refused. Last year he requested a swastika decoration! Also the 2nd or 3rd time it was Wal-Mart to the rescue. Shop-Rite offered to give him a decorating gun with icing in it so he could decorate it himself; he said that wasn't good enuf. He's quite a piece of work, methinks.
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Great teeth on both of those "parents." Always amazes me that white supremacists always somehow manage to be the most butt-ugly people to have ever fallen out of the Ugly Tree.
Olbermann did a segment on this story tonite. Apparently this is the third year in a row the father asked Shop-Rite to do the "Hitler" cake -- and the 3rd time they've refused. Last year he requested a swastika decoration! Also the 2nd or 3rd time it was Wal-Mart to the rescue. Shop-Rite offered to give him a decorating gun with icing in it so he could decorate it himself; he said that wasn't good enuf. He's quite a piece of work, methinks.
Yep, he obviously knows it's inflammatory and he's ramming it down the throats of the people in his community, so he looks like the "victim." A terrible way to use one's kids for his own agenda. I hate to think how people react to the kid, and wonder how his dad explains it to him.
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WTF? Someone's gotta overpopulate....
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/18th_baby
...The Duggars now have 10 sons and eight daughters.
and the Dad wants more!
again, WTF!? ???
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WTF? Someone's gotta overpopulate....
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/18th_baby
...The Duggars now have 10 sons and eight daughters.
and the Dad wants more!
again, WTF!? ???
My grandpa Schroeder was 3rd of 17. And my uncle Dave has 9 & he wanted more.
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Islamic extremists hate...Cliff Richard???
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1109707/Muslim-extremists-hijack-radio-stations-website-Cliff-Richard-songs.html
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Islamic extremists hate...Cliff Richard???
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1109707/Muslim-extremists-hijack-radio-stations-website-Cliff-Richard-songs.html
methinks they doth protest too much. maybe they're just A Little In Love with the Cliffster?
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"You Light Up My Life", indeed: the composer of that, er, classic, is accused of assault by 4 diff women. He's 70!
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/01/14/DD0G159AVH.DTL&type=music
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This is mainly sad, tho' it'll be filed under "bizarre news" mostly:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2008/12/16/national/a162200S22.DTL&tsp=1
New developments (yay): http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2009/01/14/national/a064131S66.DTL&tsp=1
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Police: Man arrested after throwing cat at wife during dispute (http://www.democratandchronicle.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090116/NEWS01/90116008)
... and, yes, they actually do live in a trailer park.
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OK guys... put down that joint!
http://www.latimes.com/features/health/la-he-marijuana16-2009feb16,0,167990.story
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TV Exec accused of beheading wife:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2009/02/17/national/a090113S37.DTL&tsp=1 (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2009/02/17/national/a090113S37.DTL&tsp=1)
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TV Exec accused of beheading wife:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2009/02/17/national/a090113S37.DTL&tsp=1 (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2009/02/17/national/a090113S37.DTL&tsp=1)
He "sought to improve the image of Muslims in the media" -- and of course nothing says "Muslims are regular, everyday peace-loving guys" like beheading your wife. Sheesh.
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Do any of you know anything further about this rumor posted at Gawker.com?
Reports are filtering in that Air America host Randi Rhodes was severely beaten Monday night while walking her dog on 39th and Park. "Rhodes was beaten up pretty badly, losing several teeth and will probably be off the air for at least the rest of the week," writes Talking Radio. Air America, when reached for comment on the listener call-in line, said, "We don't want to feed the inaccurate rumor mill. Also, we don't know." Though the attacks haven't been reported elsewhere, Rhodes' website does mention that she isn't feeling well and has gone as far as creating a little church sign to that effect. Sam Seder is filling in for her. Murky!
Randi's been off the air, and her network, Nova M, seems to have gone under. The owner, Sheldon Drobny has been hospitalized due to a breakdown (or worse).
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"If you wanna read 'bout the bishop and the actress..." you may have to do it someplace other than the Chron:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/02/24/MNO2164F73.DTL&type=business&tsp=1
(and yes, KFOG played JJ's "Sunday Papers" after discussing this story.)
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"If you wanna read 'bout the bishop and the actress..." you may have to do it someplace other than the Chron:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/02/24/MNO2164F73.DTL&type=business&tsp=1
(and yes, KFOG played JJ's "Sunday Papers" after discussing this story.)
really, what will Peter do if he can't pull all his stories out of the morning paper?
sadly, none of my students read the newspaper, not even the comics!
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"If you wanna read 'bout the bishop and the actress..." you may have to do it someplace other than the Chron:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/02/24/MNO2164F73.DTL&type=business&tsp=1
(and yes, KFOG played JJ's "Sunday Papers" after discussing this story.)
really, what will Peter do if he can't pull all his stories out of the morning paper?
sadly, none of my students read the newspaper, not even the comics!
It's incomprehensible that they'd seriously consider shuttering the Chron, but hemorrhaging $50M per year is a whole lot of argument to the contrary. Still, there has to be some value there to a potential buyer, if it comes to that.
Btw, I saw a copy of the "remade" Chron for the first time recently--I barely recognized it. I feel like Gertrude Stein talking about Oakland--there's no 'there' there anymore. And if the Chron goes away, there really won't be.
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"If you wanna read 'bout the bishop and the actress..." you may have to do it someplace other than the Chron:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/02/24/MNO2164F73.DTL&type=business&tsp=1
(and yes, KFOG played JJ's "Sunday Papers" after discussing this story.)
really, what will Peter do if he can't pull all his stories out of the morning paper?
sadly, none of my students read the newspaper, not even the comics!
It's incomprehensible that they'd seriously consider shuttering the Chron, but hemorrhaging $50M per year is a whole lot of argument to the contrary. Still, there has to be some value there to a potential buyer, if it comes to that.
Btw, I saw a copy of the "remade" Chron for the first time recently--I barely recognized it. I feel like Gertrude Stein talking about Oakland--there's no 'there' there anymore. And if the Chron goes away, there really won't be.
Just curious about your thoughts on the Chron redesign: is your negative reaction to the graphic presentation? or is the "no there there" comment about changes in news coverage?
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Gaz would especially enjoy this exhibit, methinks: "Jews on Vinyl" at SF's Contemporary Jewish Museum...
http://www.thecjm.org/index.php?option=com_ccevents&scope=exbt&task=detail&oid=40
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"If you wanna read 'bout the bishop and the actress..." you may have to do it someplace other than the Chron:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/02/24/MNO2164F73.DTL&type=business&tsp=1
(and yes, KFOG played JJ's "Sunday Papers" after discussing this story.)
really, what will Peter do if he can't pull all his stories out of the morning paper?
sadly, none of my students read the newspaper, not even the comics!
It's incomprehensible that they'd seriously consider shuttering the Chron, but hemorrhaging $50M per year is a whole lot of argument to the contrary. Still, there has to be some value there to a potential buyer, if it comes to that.
Btw, I saw a copy of the "remade" Chron for the first time recently--I barely recognized it. I feel like Gertrude Stein talking about Oakland--there's no 'there' there anymore. And if the Chron goes away, there really won't be.
Just curious about your thoughts on the Chron redesign: is your negative reaction to the graphic presentation? or is the "no there there" comment about changes in news coverage?
Took me awhile to quantify my reaction, but here goes: I think initially I was just reacting to the different look--the use of a serif typeface in the heds where I'd been used to seeing sans serif all those years, although I guess they started phasing that in a couple years ago. (I breathed an audible sigh of relief when I opened to the Movie Guide page to find that it still looked like it always has--at least one thing hadn't changed.)
However, in reading thru the actual content, it seems like they're giving much more cursory coverage of the subjects they are covering--it's got a much more USA Today feel to it than it once did. Seems as though they're trying to fit as much as possible into a smaller space. And I suspect there are more stories not being covered at all.
However, if it means the paper can weather this storm of recession and emerge alive on the other side, I am willing to make that sacrifice. I am an old-school newspaper reader from way back (i.e. I started reading the Chron before I was 10), and am afraid soon I won't have any other choices for a hard-copy newspaper other than the NYTimes, WSJ, LATimes, and the aforementioned USA Today (and I use the term newspaper loosely in its case).
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Took me awhile to quantify my reaction, but here goes: I think initially I was just reacting to the different look--the use of a serif typeface in the heds where I'd been used to seeing sans serif all those years, although I guess they started phasing that in a couple years ago. (I breathed an audible sigh of relief when I opened to the Movie Guide page to find that it still looked like it always has--at least one thing hadn't changed.)
However, in reading thru the actual content, it seems like they're giving much more cursory coverage of the subjects they are covering--it's got a much more USA Today feel to it than it once did. Seems as though they're trying to fit as much as possible into a smaller space. And I suspect there are more stories not being covered at all.
However, if it means the paper can weather this storm of recession and emerge alive on the other side, I am willing to make that sacrifice. I am an old-school newspaper reader from way back (i.e. I started reading the Chron before I was 10), and am afraid soon I won't have any other choices for a hard-copy newspaper other than the NYTimes, WSJ, LATimes, and the aforementioned USA Today (and I use the term newspaper loosely in its case).
that recent graphic makeover happened just a couple weeks ago, and most people who wrote in said they didn't like it. But people don't like change typically, so this wasn't a surprise. Also, people are more likely to complain than give compliments. (People really enjoy being able to say "you suck even more now" thanks to the anonymity provided by the interwebs.)
but thanks for the comments. I'll acknowledge that it does have a more "USA Today" look in some ways and in bits and pieces.
The capsule reads -- short single paragraph items -- sort of remind folks of that paper, but the Chron has featured various section digests for a long time -- it's just that now those digest items are broken out with a graphic treatment.
As the paper loses more journalists and editors, new coverage will suffer, so it's not a stretch to say that some things are not being covered -- there's just not enough resources to do so.
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Not sure what to make of this. Out in the middle of semi-nowhere (outside of Pescadero) I found this in front of a house at a turn in the road:
(http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs003.snc1/2773_1141955831910_1317875387_395162_5922725_n.jpg)
I know I put this on Facebook, but I wanted to share here too.
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Definitely not cool: I realize Terrance Hallinan was good friends with the Mitchell Bros, but he's saying the killing that Jim Mitchell's son is accused of was not, in his opinion, premeditated. The guy brought a baseball bat to the house of an ex-girlfriend -- a woman who had a restraining order against him -- and killed her. WTF, Terry?
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/07/15/BAU318P940.DTL&tsp=1
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Definitely not cool: I realize Terrance Hallinan was good friends with the Mitchell Bros, but he's saying the killing that Jim Mitchell's son is accused of was not, in his opinion, premeditated. The guy brought a baseball bat to the house of an ex-girlfriend -- a woman who had a restraining order against him -- and killed her. WTF, Terry?
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/07/15/BAU318P940.DTL&tsp=1
Unbelievable. Beyond despicable.
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Definitely not cool: I realize Terrance Hallinan was good friends with the Mitchell Bros, but he's saying the killing that Jim Mitchell's son is accused of was not, in his opinion, premeditated. The guy brought a baseball bat to the house of an ex-girlfriend -- a woman who had a restraining order against him -- and killed her. WTF, Terry?
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/07/15/BAU318P940.DTL&tsp=1
Unbelievable. Beyond despicable.
He's in overdrive slimy defense attorney mode.
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The good news: they're bringing back "Let's make a Deal"
The bad news: it'll be hosted by Wayne Brady...
http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/08/03/whats-behind-that-curtain-lets-make-a-deal-to-replace-guiding-ligh
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File under "That's not funny, that's sick":
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2009/12/29/national/a122828S36.DTL&tsp=1
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The good news: they're bringing back "Let's make a Deal"
The bad news: it'll be hosted by Wayne Brady...
You're right about the bad news part. I happened across this recently and could only watch for a few minutes. Whereas Bob Barker seemed perpetually bemused by the things folks would say or do, Brady comes across as a more than just a little bit evil (imho).
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The good news: they're bringing back "Let's make a Deal"
The bad news: it'll be hosted by Wayne Brady...
You're right about the bad news part. I happened across this recently and could only watch for a few minutes. Whereas Bob Barker seemed perpetually bemused by the things folks would say or do, Brady comes across as a more than just a little bit evil (imho).
According to Dave, Renee, Peter and Irish Greg, he *is* evil.
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File under "That's not funny, that's sick":
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2009/12/29/national/a122828S36.DTL&tsp=1
A suicide could quite possibly result.
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The good news: they're bringing back "Let's make a Deal"
The bad news: it'll be hosted by Wayne Brady...
You're right about the bad news part. I happened across this recently and could only watch for a few minutes. Whereas Bob Barker seemed perpetually bemused by the things folks would say or do, Brady comes across as a more than just a little bit evil (imho).
According to Dave, Renee, Peter and Irish Greg, he *is* evil.
Also according to Dave Chappelle (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bONBlJNt0I0).
PS: Relatedly, Drew Carey sucks as Price Is Right host. Still can't believe his underwhelming nonresponse when a contestant nailed the Showcase Showdown on the freaking money (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZOCT9lUh4Y).
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File under "That's not funny, that's sick":
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2009/12/29/national/a122828S36.DTL&tsp=1
A suicide could quite possibly result.
But wouldn't it rather be a contract fulfillment? Every day I think I've heard the most preposterous thing I've ever heard in my life. Then tomorrow comes.
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Also according to Dave Chappelle (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bONBlJNt0I0).
PS: Relatedly, Drew Carey sucks as Price Is Right host. Still can't believe his underwhelming nonresponse when a contestant nailed the Showcase Showdown on the freaking money (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZOCT9lUh4Y).
That Chapelle was hilarious! And Drew must have been on some downers.
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File under "That's not funny, that's sick":
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2009/12/29/national/a122828S36.DTL&tsp=1
A suicide could quite possibly result.
people really are dying to save money in this economy... HEY-OH!
thank you...
I believe the funeral home when they say they are trying to make people think about the tragedies of DWI, but they're getting some PR out of this and that's their big reason for doing it.
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File under "That's not funny, that's sick":
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2009/12/29/national/a122828S36.DTL&tsp=1
A suicide could quite possibly result.
people really are dying to save money in this economy... HEY-OH!
thank you...
I believe the funeral home when they say they are trying to make people think about the tragedies of DWI, but they're getting some PR out of this and that's their big reason for doing it.
Particularly since the odds of them having to actually pay off are relatively small. However, what if someone who's signed up for their offer kills someone else? Will they handle that service gratis too?
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Or perhaps, truth in advertising:
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2009/04/worst-logo-ever.html
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File under "That's not funny, that's sick":
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2009/12/29/national/a122828S36.DTL&tsp=1
A suicide could quite possibly result.
people really are dying to save money in this economy... HEY-OH!
thank you...
I believe the funeral home when they say they are trying to make people think about the tragedies of DWI, but they're getting some PR out of this and that's their big reason for doing it.
Particularly since the odds of them having to actually pay off are relatively small. However, what if someone who's signed up for their offer kills someone else? Will they handle that service gratis too?
prob not, from the home paper's story (http://www.romenews-tribune.com/pages/full_story/push?article-Free+burial+story+makes+nationwide+headlines%20&id=5340509), a commenter says:
"I actually called the funeral home and asked the question some of you are wondering on "Can I come in and sign the contract and if I get killed by a drunk driver, would you pay for my funeral too?", I was told no, that this was to bring public awareness to the drinking/drugging while driving problem. That they had had a family member die because of this and just wanted to make sure everyone who plans on doing this are aware of the consequences of their actions before hand I guess. Humm, sounds kinda backwards to me, don't ya think?"
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The winner of the Wildlife Photographer of the Year competition has been stripped of his title and banned for life(!) for employing a professional wolf (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8470962.stm).
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/04/06/women-arrested-for-trying_n_526700.html
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/04/06/women-arrested-for-trying_n_526700.html
I dunno -- I heard this on Olbermann last nite and thought it was both cool AND funny. ;)
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/04/06/women-arrested-for-trying_n_526700.html
I dunno -- I heard this on Olbermann last nite and thought it was both cool AND funny. ;)
a carrion bag?
yipes! well, Spirit Airlines is going to charge up to $45 for a carry-on bag, so I COMPLETELY understand these Frauen.
btw, this reminds me of Adam Carolla's theory that all weird news stories happen in either German or Florida:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Too_Late_with_Adam_Carolla#Germany_or_Florida.3F
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Shrek glasses at Mickey D's toxic? Well, he *is* a neon green ogre who lives in a swamp...
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2010/06/03/national/a232903D92.DTL
What's the half-life of cadmium? Forever After indeed!
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Definitely NOT cool: it's 103 degrees in NYC at the moment.
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Definitely NOT cool: it's 103 degrees in NYC at the moment.
A good time for my youngest daughter, who moved to Brooklyn last fall, to be visiting here!
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Yay! SF is *not* on the list of the top 15 bedbug-infested cities! (Columbus, Ohio?? WTF??)
http://www.comcast.net/articles/news-national/20100824/bedbug.list/
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Hey Tinka, is SFGate having problems with the front door today? I'm seeing a very deconstructed, almost DOS-looking version of the door that scrolls on for miles. However any articles or other content I go to looks fine. Problems with CSS? I don't have any issues with other pages so I assume it's not my browser (FF 3.5.14, OS is WindowsXP).
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Hey Tinka, is SFGate having problems with the front door today? I'm seeing a very deconstructed, almost DOS-looking version of the door that scrolls on for miles. However any articles or other content I go to looks fine. Problems with CSS? I don't have any issues with other pages so I assume it's not my browser (FF 3.5.14, OS is WindowsXP).
I've been on and off their homepage all day and haven't had any probs.
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Hey Tinka, is SFGate having problems with the front door today? I'm seeing a very deconstructed, almost DOS-looking version of the door that scrolls on for miles. However any articles or other content I go to looks fine. Problems with CSS? I don't have any issues with other pages so I assume it's not my browser (FF 3.5.14, OS is WindowsXP).
I've been on and off their homepage all day and haven't had any probs.
no problems on our end that we know of.. There's a chance you cached a 'bad' version of our CSS somewhere along the way. Can you clear your browser's cache and try reloading? If it persists, can you msgs me a screenshot of the bad page?
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Hey Tinka, is SFGate having problems with the front door today? I'm seeing a very deconstructed, almost DOS-looking version of the door that scrolls on for miles. However any articles or other content I go to looks fine. Problems with CSS? I don't have any issues with other pages so I assume it's not my browser (FF 3.5.14, OS is WindowsXP).
I've been on and off their homepage all day and haven't had any probs.
no problems on our end that we know of.. There's a chance you cached a 'bad' version of our CSS somewhere along the ayt. Can you clear your browser's cache and try reloading? If it persists, can you msgs me a screenshot of the bad page?
Cleared the cache and problem solved. I guess I been out of the interweb biz too long--I shoulda known that.
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Yikes! At least our forecast doesn't call for "searing blasts of gas":
Indonesia volcano blasts searing gas; 100+ dead
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2010/11/05/international/i015226D36.DTL&tsp=1
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Yikes! At least our forecast doesn't call for "searing blasts of gas":
only when there's a Tea Party rally ;)
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Apologies if any of you got an e-mail from me today. Seems my address book was compromised by some kinda malware and spammed everyone I've ever corresponded with. And for god sakes, don't click it. Run your antivirus just to be on the safe side. Sorry. :-[
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Giving new meaning to the phrase "Goin Loco in Acapulco":
http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/americas/01/08/mexico.bodies.found/index.html?iref=NS1
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Yikes:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2011/03/14/sports/s143609D66.DTL&tsp=1
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Yikes:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2011/03/14/sports/s143609D66.DTL&tsp=1
Damn... Gilbert Gottfried got fired for tasteless tsunami tweeting too. No quotes though.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2011/03/14/national/a142323D83.DTL&tsp=1
There must be a joke in here somewhere:
What do Gilbert Gottried and the WNBA have in common?
Near total irrelavance. And they're stupid and mean.
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Damn... Gilbert Gottfried got fired for tasteless tsunami tweeting too. No quotes though.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2011/03/14/national/a142323D83.DTL&tsp=1
try here:
http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/the-10-worst-gilbert-gottfried-tsunami-jokes
pretty bad.
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Damn... Gilbert Gottfried got fired for tasteless tsunami tweeting too. No quotes though.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2011/03/14/national/a142323D83.DTL&tsp=1
try here:
http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/the-10-worst-gilbert-gottfried-tsunami-jokes
pretty bad.
The thing is... why would you hire a "celebrity" to do a duck voice in the first place? All the duck ever says is "AFLAC". Any out-of-work voice actor or deejay -- hell, any five-year-old -- could do that.
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The thing is... why would you hire a "celebrity" to do a duck voice in the first place? All the duck ever says is "AFLAC". Any out-of-work voice actor or deejay -- hell, any five-year-old -- could do that.
I always thought it was someone doing a really bad Gilbert Gottfried impression, not the man himself.
That said, I think I have never laughed harder in my life than when GG took the podium several years back at the Friar's Club roast of Hugh Hefner. At Beej's b-day gathering the subject of celebrity roasts came up, and I made this point & everyone who'd seen it agreed. Don't have time to look for it on YouTube today, but I'm sure it must be out there somewhere.
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The thing is... why would you hire a "celebrity" to do a duck voice in the first place? All the duck ever says is "AFLAC". Any out-of-work voice actor or deejay -- hell, any five-year-old -- could do that.
I always thought it was someone doing a really bad Gilbert Gottfried impression, not the man himself.
That said, I think I have never laughed harder in my life than when GG took the podium several years back at the Friar's Club roast of Hugh Hefner. At Beej's b-day gathering the subject of celebrity roasts came up, and I made this point & everyone who'd seen it agreed. Don't have time to look for it on YouTube today, but I'm sure it must be out there somewhere.
in the days when he used to make appearances on Alex Bennett's Live 105 morning show, GG did the most hilarious (and dead-perfect) Jerry Seinfeld imitation I've ever heard.
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Joshua Tree National Park losing its... er... Joshua Trees.
http://blogs.kqed.org/climatewatch/2011/03/24/joshua-trees-losing-ground-fast/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+kqed%2FClimateWatchBlog+%28KQED%27s+Climate+Watch+Blog%29
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Dumb-ass gotta-text-while-driving fools:
Student charged with texting before car crash
A Sonoma State University student has been charged with misdemeanor vehicular manslaughter for allegedly running over a 2-year-old girl in a crosswalk while texting on her cell phone, prosecutors said.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/crime/detail?entry_id=89134&tsp=1
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Well, OK, it *might* be funny... but this happened literally around-the-corner from my apartment:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/09/07/BA5S1L1CH0.DTL&tsp=1
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Here's a story about a woman who got stuck in SFO for 8 days (!) because she couldn't pay her extra bag fees.
http://newsfeed.time.com/2011/11/04/california-woman-unable-to-pay-bag-fees-stuck-in-airport-for-eight-days/
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Not funny, not cool: WonderCon moves to Anaheim :'(
http://www.comic-con.org/wc/wc_pr12_dates.php
They say it's only temporary, but I'm not holding my breath.
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Thanks to sfgate for finding and posting this. My favorite place on earth, in hi def. It's huge, and doesn't download very quickly, but really beautiful. I probably would have gone with a different, less grandiose soundtrack.
http://blog.sfgate.com/hottopics/2012/01/24/take-a-little-break-to-watch-some-extreme-yosemite/?tsp=1
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Thanks to sfgate for finding and posting this. My favorite place on earth, in hi def. It's huge, and doesn't download very quickly, but really beautiful. I probably would have gone with a different, less grandiose soundtrack.
http://blog.sfgate.com/hottopics/2012/01/24/take-a-little-break-to-watch-some-extreme-yosemite/?tsp=1
That is lovely. I'm not sure if there's a board policy on duplicate posts, but this was on the Cool/Not Funny thread yesterday. I commented then that I liked the background music. To each his own.
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Thanks to sfgate for finding and posting this. My favorite place on earth, in hi def. It's huge, and doesn't download very quickly, but really beautiful. I probably would have gone with a different, less grandiose soundtrack.
http://blog.sfgate.com/hottopics/2012/01/24/take-a-little-break-to-watch-some-extreme-yosemite/?tsp=1
That is lovely. I'm not sure if there's a board policy on duplicate posts, but this was on the Cool/Not Funny thread yesterday. I commented then that I liked the background music. To each his own.
D'oh! So nice, it was posted twice!
And I posted in the wrong thread. Board foul!
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Florence and the (drinking) machine: well, this certainly explains her insipid lyrics!
http://blog.sfgate.com/dailydish/2012/01/31/drunk-florence-welch-accidentally-set-fire-to-hotel-room/
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Is there a Kids These Days thread?
http://itmustberealitmustbetrue.tumblr.com/post/17537703738
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Is there a Kids These Days thread?
http://itmustberealitmustbetrue.tumblr.com/post/17537703738
I'm surprised there were no tweet included that said "That old Beatle guy farted!"
b/c the broadcast did feature two distinct "farty" noises during his perf.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjgeXsrF2xE
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someone on FB who shall remain nameless was just ECSTATIC about this; my reaction is more like "aren't people sick of this damn woman yet??"
http://www.billboard.com/news/adele-ulation-makes-history-with-hot-100-1006266352.story#/news/adele-ulation-makes-history-with-hot-100-1006266352.story
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This is the damndedst thing: The URL for our old fave the Top 40 Database (the song-lyrics sorted by year site) is this:
http://ntl.matrix.com.br/pfilho/html/top40/index.html
and it works fine on my home PC but I cannot get it to come up on my work computer -- I get the Windows, "Internet Explorer cannot display the webpage" message. Weird, 'cause when my employer blocks certain sites we get a specific message fom IT telling us so. So why would this be happening only at work? Anyone else not able to pull up that site?
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Well, sorta funny (since there's a happy ending) but still: Gay son is too busy during Pride Week to call home -- that's NEWS?
http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/S-F-man-reported-missing-found-safe-3663621.php
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This is the damndedst thing: The URL for our old fave the Top 40 Database (the song-lyrics sorted by year site) is this:
http://ntl.matrix.com.br/pfilho/html/top40/index.html
and it works fine on my home PC but I cannot get it to come up on my work computer -- I get the Windows, "Internet Explorer cannot display the webpage" message. Weird, 'cause when my employer blocks certain sites we get a specific message fom IT telling us so. So why would this be happening only at work? Anyone else not able to pull up that site?
I just tried to hit this page and got essentially the same result that mike describes above (except I'm using FF 13.0.1). Anyone else able to access it? Hate to think it's gone--it's one of the most useful chart sites I know of.
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This is the damndedst thing: The URL for our old fave the Top 40 Database (the song-lyrics sorted by year site) is this:
http://ntl.matrix.com.br/pfilho/html/top40/index.html
and it works fine on my home PC but I cannot get it to come up on my work computer -- I get the Windows, "Internet Explorer cannot display the webpage" message. Weird, 'cause when my employer blocks certain sites we get a specific message fom IT telling us so. So why would this be happening only at work? Anyone else not able to pull up that site?
I just tried to hit this page and got essentially the same result that mike describes above (except I'm using FF 13.0.1). Anyone else able to access it? Hate to think it's gone--it's one of the most useful chart sites I know of.
Interesting site. I can access it with FF and Chrome.
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This is the damndedst thing: The URL for our old fave the Top 40 Database (the song-lyrics sorted by year site) is this:
http://ntl.matrix.com.br/pfilho/html/top40/index.html
and it works fine on my home PC but I cannot get it to come up on my work computer -- I get the Windows, "Internet Explorer cannot display the webpage" message. Weird, 'cause when my employer blocks certain sites we get a specific message fom IT telling us so. So why would this be happening only at work? Anyone else not able to pull up that site?
I just tried to hit this page and got essentially the same result that mike describes above (except I'm using FF 13.0.1). Anyone else able to access it? Hate to think it's gone--it's one of the most useful chart sites I know of.
Interesting site. I can access it with FF and Chrome.
I'm able to access it again via my work PC, so who knows WTF was going on.
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This is the damndedst thing: The URL for our old fave the Top 40 Database (the song-lyrics sorted by year site) is this:
http://ntl.matrix.com.br/pfilho/html/top40/index.html
and it works fine on my home PC but I cannot get it to come up on my work computer -- I get the Windows, "Internet Explorer cannot display the webpage" message. Weird, 'cause when my employer blocks certain sites we get a specific message fom IT telling us so. So why would this be happening only at work? Anyone else not able to pull up that site?
I just tried to hit this page and got essentially the same result that mike describes above (except I'm using FF 13.0.1). Anyone else able to access it? Hate to think it's gone--it's one of the most useful chart sites I know of.
Interesting site. I can access it with FF and Chrome.
I'm able to access it again via my work PC, so who knows WTF was going on.
Just checked it again and it's working fine for me now, so who knows? Maybe they shut down for maintenance periodically? Anyway, call off the hounds. All is well in Brazil.
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Didn't know where else to put this. Television Without Pity. the TV message board that our old friend Beej was quite fond of at one time, is shutting down...
http://variety.com/2014/digital/news/nbcuniversal-shuts-down-dailycandy-television-without-pity-websites-1201148723/#
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Didn't know where else to put this. Television Without Pity. the TV message board that our old friend Beej was quite fond of at one time, is shutting down...
http://variety.com/2014/digital/news/nbcuniversal-shuts-down-dailycandy-television-without-pity-websites-1201148723/#
A pretty direct line could be drawn from DailyCandy to Gawker, Buzzfeed, and all those other clickbait sites that seem to be a dime a dozen these days.
Such is life on the intarweb.
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Pet Peeve of the Week: as if watching the Weather Channel on TV isn't painful enuf, their website is truly hideous, chockablock with sensational headlines (Landslide Horror! Deadly Outbreak! etc) and of course tons of clickbait "listicles". I go there to find out what the temperature is and I immediately want to take a shower.
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Pet Peeve of the Week: as if watching the Weather Channel on TV isn't painful enuf, their website is truly hideous, chockablock with sensational headlines (Landslide Horror! Deadly Outbreak! etc) and of course tons of clickbait "listicles". I go there to find out what the temperature is and I immediately want to take a shower.
If you type in [name of city] weather into Google, you get a basic weather report at the top of the listings, which is usually good enough for me.
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Pet Peeve of the Week: as if watching the Weather Channel on TV isn't painful enuf, their website is truly hideous, chockablock with sensational headlines (Landslide Horror! Deadly Outbreak! etc) and of course tons of clickbait "listicles". I go there to find out what the temperature is and I immediately want to take a shower.
Weather Channel proper has gone off the rails as far as I'm concerned, so not surprised that their website is more of the same. The numerous TLC-style tabloid shows drive me nuts; I just want to see the weather. Of course the only time people would tune in for more than a couple minutes is during hurricane season or when there's a blizzard on the east coast.
I use Weather Underground for my weather needs (wunderground.com) and have no complaints. Their app rocks it, too.
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Pet Peeve of the Week: as if watching the Weather Channel on TV isn't painful enuf, their website is truly hideous, chockablock with sensational headlines (Landslide Horror! Deadly Outbreak! etc) and of course tons of clickbait "listicles". I go there to find out what the temperature is and I immediately want to take a shower.
Weather Channel proper has gone off the rails as far as I'm concerned, so not surprised that their website is more of the same. The numerous TLC-style tabloid shows drive me nuts; I just want to see the weather. Of course the only time people would tune in for more than a couple minutes is during hurricane season or when there's a blizzard on the east coast.
I use Weather Underground for my weather needs (wunderground.com) and have no complaints. Their app rocks it, too.
at this moment, three different weather sites:
WeatherChannel - SF 65 degrees
AccuWeather - SF 71 degrees
WeatherUndergound - SF 73 degrees.
Given that it's been overcast all day, I'm guessing it's towards the lower end of that spectrum
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Pet Peeve of the Week: as if watching the Weather Channel on TV isn't painful enuf, their website is truly hideous, chockablock with sensational headlines (Landslide Horror! Deadly Outbreak! etc) and of course tons of clickbait "listicles". I go there to find out what the temperature is and I immediately want to take a shower.
Weather Channel proper has gone off the rails as far as I'm concerned, so not surprised that their website is more of the same. The numerous TLC-style tabloid shows drive me nuts; I just want to see the weather. Of course the only time people would tune in for more than a couple minutes is during hurricane season or when there's a blizzard on the east coast.
I use Weather Underground for my weather needs (wunderground.com) and have no complaints. Their app rocks it, too.
at this moment, three different weather sites:
WeatherChannel - SF 65 degrees
AccuWeather - SF 71 degrees
WeatherUndergound - SF 73 degrees.
Given that it's been overcast all day, I'm guessing it's towards the lower end of that spectrum
SF's microclimates can produce wild swings in current temps at any given time. I know wunderground has weather stations all over the city - they prob got a reading from the Mission, while weather channel is out at SFO .. or something.
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Pet Peeve of the Week: as if watching the Weather Channel on TV isn't painful enuf, their website is truly hideous, chockablock with sensational headlines (Landslide Horror! Deadly Outbreak! etc) and of course tons of clickbait "listicles". I go there to find out what the temperature is and I immediately want to take a shower.
Weather Channel proper has gone off the rails as far as I'm concerned, so not surprised that their website is more of the same. The numerous TLC-style tabloid shows drive me nuts; I just want to see the weather. Of course the only time people would tune in for more than a couple minutes is during hurricane season or when there's a blizzard on the east coast.
I use Weather Underground for my weather needs (wunderground.com) and have no complaints. Their app rocks it, too.
at this moment, three different weather sites:
WeatherChannel - SF 65 degrees
AccuWeather - SF 71 degrees
WeatherUndergound - SF 73 degrees.
Given that it's been overcast all day, I'm guessing it's towards the lower end of that spectrum
SF's microclimates can produce wild swings in current temps at any given time. I know wunderground has weather stations all over the city - they prob got a reading from the Mission, while weather channel is out at SFO .. or something.
The notion that a large area is going to have identical atmospheric temperature readings
throughout is untenable. Even geographically homogenous regions without San Francisco's
climate differences are going to exhibit a small range of differences.
"It's 82 at the airport... which is stupid because I don't know anyone that lives at the airport."
-- George Carlin
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Pet Peeve of the Week: as if watching the Weather Channel on TV isn't painful enuf, their website is truly hideous, chockablock with sensational headlines (Landslide Horror! Deadly Outbreak! etc) and of course tons of clickbait "listicles". I go there to find out what the temperature is and I immediately want to take a shower.
Weather Channel proper has gone off the rails as far as I'm concerned, so not surprised that their website is more of the same. The numerous TLC-style tabloid shows drive me nuts; I just want to see the weather. Of course the only time people would tune in for more than a couple minutes is during hurricane season or when there's a blizzard on the east coast.
I use Weather Underground for my weather needs (wunderground.com) and have no complaints. Their app rocks it, too.
at this moment, three different weather sites:
WeatherChannel - SF 65 degrees
AccuWeather - SF 71 degrees
WeatherUndergound - SF 73 degrees.
Given that it's been overcast all day, I'm guessing it's towards the lower end of that spectrum
SF's microclimates can produce wild swings in current temps at any given time. I know wunderground has weather stations all over the city - they prob got a reading from the Mission, while weather channel is out at SFO .. or something.
The notion that a large area is going to have identical atmospheric temperature readings
throughout is untenable. Even geographically homogenous regions without San Francisco's
climate differences are going to exhibit a small range of differences.
"It's 82 at the airport... which is stupid because I don't know anyone that lives at the airport."
-- George Carlin
Let me bore you with one more thing. Nature is exceedingly lumpy. Instead of a smooth Photoshop gradient, the air is full of small homogenous layers. It's called laminar flow. But, I also believe the measuring devices are probably not that well calibrated either.
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