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Title: President-elect Barack Obama
Post by: ggould on November 05, 2008, 12:24:07 PM
per Mike's request, a good place to start the discussion about hopes, fears, news, the transition team, etc.
Title: Re: President-elect Barack Obama
Post by: RGMike on November 05, 2008, 12:37:00 PM
So what do we make of Rahm Emanuel, rumored to be O's WH Chief of Staff?  The right will not be happy, they hate his ass. You'd think Rahm would be more interested in running for O's about-to-be-vacant Senate seat.
Title: Re: President-elect Barack Obama
Post by: Tinka Cat on November 05, 2008, 03:19:15 PM
So what do we make of Rahm Emanuel, rumored to be O's WH Chief of Staff?  The right will not be happy, they hate his ass. You'd think Rahm would be more interested in running for O's about-to-be-vacant Senate seat.

The first I've heard of him was this morning on KQED when Michael Krasny and guests mentioned his new role.  they said he's disliked by many Dems as well.  They called it a pick based of efficacy, and not popularity.

 
Title: Re: President-elect Barack Obama
Post by: mshray on November 05, 2008, 04:09:49 PM
MSNBC broke this last night while I was watching, he's a Mayor Daley protege, and his brother Ari is the real-life model for Jeremy Piven's Ari character on Entourage.  Chris Matthews & Howard Fineman described him as a 'guy who knows how to knock heads together' or something like that.  I'm thinking Pelosi could use a knock on the head.
Title: Re: President-elect Barack Obama
Post by: mshray on November 05, 2008, 04:18:57 PM
So what do we make of Rahm Emanuel, rumored to be O's WH Chief of Staff?  The right will not be happy, they hate his ass. You'd think Rahm would be more interested in running for O's about-to-be-vacant Senate seat.

Betcha dimes to dollars that Jesse Jackson III gets the Senate appointment from Illinois Gov. Blagojevich, who then gets to appoint JJ3's and Emanuel's replacements in the House.

ETA:  I just saw that Michelle was a high school classsmate of JJ3's sister.   Suppose the Obama's might have a preference?  ::)
Title: Re: President-elect Barack Obama
Post by: Tinka Cat on November 05, 2008, 04:23:27 PM
So what do we make of Rahm Emanuel, rumored to be O's WH Chief of Staff?  The right will not be happy, they hate his ass. You'd think Rahm would be more interested in running for O's about-to-be-vacant Senate seat.

Betcha dimes to dollars that Jesse Jackson III gets the Senate appointment from Illinois Gov. Blagojevich, who then gets to appoint JJ3's and Emanuel's replacements in the House.

funny (insightful?) SFGate user comment about O's Emmanuel pick:

I think he may come to regret this choice. Rahm Emmanuel makes Iago look like Doug Henning.

Title: Re: President-elect Barack Obama
Post by: mshray on November 05, 2008, 04:38:06 PM
If you were watching the end of Barack's speech last night in Chicago, did you notice the really tall black guy that came on stage when all the kids, grandkids and even Biden's mom came out?  That's Michelle's brother, Craig Robinson, who is the new head basketball coach at Oregon State (replacing John Jay, a Lute Olson protege if you follow these things).

OSU has been the Pac-10 doormat for several years now, but you think he just got some extra job security?
Title: Re: President-elect Barack Obama
Post by: Wayback on November 07, 2008, 12:09:01 PM
Update on names floating for Obama admin top spots:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081107/ap_on_el_pr/obama_potential_appointees (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081107/ap_on_el_pr/obama_potential_appointees)
Title: Re: President-elect Barack Obama
Post by: Wayback on November 07, 2008, 04:23:06 PM
Hey look, Obama's already stimulating the economy! :o
Gun Enthusiasts Stock Up
Fear of a crackdown by Obama and Democratic Congress spurs a buying spree.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2008/11/07/national/a105908S50.DTL&tsp=1 (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2008/11/07/national/a105908S50.DTL&tsp=1)
Title: Re: President-elect Barack Obama
Post by: Gazoo on November 08, 2008, 10:16:20 AM
This almost choked me up.

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3279/3006416363_95ef8de914_o.jpg)
Title: Re: President-elect Barack Obama
Post by: Tinka Cat on November 08, 2008, 04:24:57 PM
This almost choked me up.

but then you saw the last picture and realized the kid on the left is actually saying "F*** You" in English hand gestures, you got a little angry, right?  me too!
(http://www.dervala.net/images/two-fingers.jpeg)

"eff off, Tories!"
===========

) :) :) <- these smileys indicate I mean this to be an impersonal joke!  I'm not trying to be mean!
Title: Re: President-elect Barack Obama
Post by: mshray on November 10, 2008, 09:09:28 AM

This almost choked me up.


Well it totally choked me up!
Title: Re: President-elect Barack Obama
Post by: Wayback on November 10, 2008, 09:58:26 AM
Did you catch recent South Park?  Its been repeated several times since Wed.  In the episode, its election night and half the town is partying drunk in celebration of Obama win, while other half is either suicidal or planning to go into underground bunker for awhile due to the coming "Change."  The parallel plot is that Obama and McCain teams were in collaboration all along waiting for Election Night, for the opportunity to get winner into the White House Oval Office alone for access to secret tunnel under President's desk, as tunnel goes beneath Smithsonian, where they dig branch tunnel to get into museum to steal the Hope diamond, a la films Mission Impossible, National Treasure.  Palin is in on it too, revealing that her accent is fake, her real voice, demeanor is like that of the no-nonsense female boss of 007 in last Bond film. Funny stuff.  Here's a 2-min clip:
www.southparkstudios.com/clips/209730/?tab=featured (http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/209730/?tab=featured)
Title: Re: President-elect Barack Obama
Post by: RGMike on November 10, 2008, 10:04:02 AM
Did you catch recent South Park?  Its been repeated several times since Wed.  In the episode, its election night and half the town is partying drunk in celebration of Obama win, while other half is either suicidal or planning to go into underground bunker for awhile due to the coming "Change."  The parallel plot is that Obama and McCain teams were in collaboration all along waiting for Election Night, for the opportunity to get winner into the White House Oval Office alone for access to secret tunnel under President's desk, as tunnel goes beneath Smithsonian, where they dig branch tunnel to get into museum to steal the Hope diamond, a la films Mission Impossible, National Treasure.  Palin is in on it too, revealing that her accent is fake, her real voice, demeanor is like that of the no-nonsense female boss of 007 in last Bond film. Funny stuff.  Here's a 2-min clip:
www.southparkstudios.com/clips/209730/?tab=featured (http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/209730/?tab=featured)

Using the "Hope" diamond (GET IT?) was a nice touch.
Title: Re: President-elect Barack Obama
Post by: RGMike on November 10, 2008, 11:21:12 AM
(http://hollywood-elsewhere.com/images/column/103108/lineup.jpg)
Title: Re: President-elect Barack Obama
Post by: RGMike on November 10, 2008, 11:57:31 AM
Will Obama's election change Black Music? I think this article overreaches, but food for thought anyway:

http://www.baltimoresun.com/entertainment/music/bal-al.eye09nov09,0,5290281.story
Title: Re: President-elect Barack Obama
Post by: Gazoo on November 10, 2008, 01:47:21 PM
Will Obama's election change Black Music? I think this article overreaches, but food for thought anyway:

http://www.baltimoresun.com/entertainment/music/bal-al.eye09nov09,0,5290281.story

I would LOVE to see R&B and hip-hop swing back from the bitch-ho-pimp-strippa-playa paradigm to something a little more human.
Title: Re: President-elect Barack Obama
Post by: urth on November 10, 2008, 11:17:37 PM
This year's answer to the "sorry everybody" site that went up after the election 4 years ago.

http://www.zefrank.com/from52to48withlove/
Title: Re: President-elect Barack Obama
Post by: RGMike on November 11, 2008, 04:05:13 PM
A nice piece on MSNBC First Read about election night in Austin TX:

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/11/11/1669361.aspx
Title: Re: President-elect Barack Obama
Post by: princessofcairo on November 11, 2008, 04:35:09 PM
mel brooks says,

"the sheriff's a..."

(http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/c/c7/200px-BossNiggerPoster.jpg)

i have a pillow close to my chest to combat all the "you're so un-pc" comments i might receive.
Title: Re: President-elect Barack Obama
Post by: RGMike on November 11, 2008, 08:20:35 PM
mel brooks says,

"the sheriff's a..."

i have a pillow close to my chest to combat all the "you're so un-pc" comments i might receive.

excuse me while ah whips this out!
Title: Re: President-elect Barack Obama
Post by: RGMike on November 12, 2008, 02:13:03 PM
This NY Times parody (as much a parody of Obaman "hope" as of the Times itself) was apparently available on NYC newsstands today -- I, er, hope Gaz was able to snag a copy!

http://www.nytimes-se.com/

"All the News We Hope to Print" -- LOL!
Title: Re: President-elect Barack Obama
Post by: mshray on November 12, 2008, 02:45:00 PM
A nice piece on MSNBC First Read about election night in Austin TX:

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/11/11/1669361.aspx

I have drunk many a drink in the bar of the Driskill Hotel on business trips to Austin, stayed there once, and even bought myself a Driskill Hotel polo shirt.  I can totally imagine being there with the writer of the article.

Check out the following comment to another article linked to this one:

This is the deal. The bus is leaving for the 21st Century. Either climb aboard or be miserable and continue to wallow in your narrow thinking & intolerant views.
 
Title: Re: President-elect Barack Obama
Post by: Gazoo on November 13, 2008, 11:59:14 AM
This NY Times parody (as much a parody of Obaman "hope" as of the Times itself) was apparently available on NYC newsstands today -- I, er, hope Gaz was able to snag a copy!

http://www.nytimes-se.com/

"All the News We Hope to Print" -- LOL!

Alas, by the time I found out about it, it was too late - but if I snag a copy somehow, I'll bring it next month.  Meantime, you can download the whole thing as a PDF.

I checked out one of the stories and started reading the comments.  This one was a garbled delight:

http://www.nytimes-se.com/2009/07/04/court-indicts-bush-on-high-treason-charge/#comments

17. Sieter Deubel

I hope that Mr. Bush will rest his life in peace in a freaky prison.
Best regards from old europe!
Comment on November 13, 2008 03:37 am
Title: Re: President-elect Barack Obama
Post by: RGMike on November 14, 2008, 07:40:38 AM
Hillary for Secretary of State?

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/11/14/1674694.aspx

well, hell -- Bill's had secretaries in all 50 states...
Title: Re: President-elect Barack Obama
Post by: RGMike on November 17, 2008, 09:17:35 AM
Bye Bye Blackberry...

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2008/11/16/politics/p161249S56.DTL&tsp=1
Title: Re: President-elect Barack Obama
Post by: Lightnin' Rod on November 19, 2008, 12:13:19 PM
(http://www.thepeoplescube.com/images/Obama_Poster_Cowbell.gif)
Title: Re: President-elect Barack Obama
Post by: Tinka Cat on November 19, 2008, 01:31:01 PM
(http://www.thepeoplescube.com/images/Obama_Poster_Cowbell.gif)

Best. Meme. Use. Ever.
Title: Re: President-elect Barack Obama
Post by: RGMike on November 20, 2008, 08:14:03 AM
I couldn't find a smaller version of this, but DAYUM! Sexy people in the White House!

(http://www.politopics.com/uploaded_images/ebony2-760646.jpg)

Down the block from my office in Oaktown, there's a guy who's been selling Obama buttons & shirts since the summer. My favorite, unveiled after the election: "I voted for THAT ONE!"
Title: Re: President-elect Barack Obama
Post by: RGMike on December 18, 2008, 08:19:27 PM
Bumping this thread back up; surprised Gaz or someone hasn't commented on the Rick Warren-at-the-inauguration story.  "Ah am much much unhappy" about it.  Flock Rick Warren and his fuck, er, I mean, fuck Rick Warren and his flock.
Title: Re: President-elect Barack Obama
Post by: ggould on December 18, 2008, 08:51:36 PM
Bumping this thread back up; surprised Gaz or someone hasn't commented on the Rick Warren-at-the-inauguration story.  "Ah am much much unhappy" about it.  Flock Rick Warren and his fuck, er, I mean, fuck Rick Warren and his flock.
yeah, it's kind of weird.  Gavin Newsom was on Rachel Maddow's show tonight, and while still supporting Obama, and saying he strongly disagrees with Warren, he feels it's a mistake, but is giving Obama the benefit of the doubt.  I personally cannot remember a presidency in transition that had so much focus on it before the inauguration.  I just can't wait for January 20, and just hope we can all survive until then!
Title: Re: President-elect Barack Obama
Post by: Gazoo on December 19, 2008, 06:06:52 AM
Bumping this thread back up; surprised Gaz or someone hasn't commented on the Rick Warren-at-the-inauguration story.  "Ah am much much unhappy" about it.  Flock Rick Warren and his fuck, er, I mean, fuck Rick Warren and his flock.

I've got no love for Warren, but I respect that Obama's trying to win over the large segment of America that does.

And to be sure, Obama could have done far worse in the God Squad.
Title: Re: President-elect Barack Obama
Post by: RGMike on December 19, 2008, 07:28:24 AM
Bumping this thread back up; surprised Gaz or someone hasn't commented on the Rick Warren-at-the-inauguration story.  "Ah am much much unhappy" about it.  Flock Rick Warren and his fuck, er, I mean, fuck Rick Warren and his flock.

I've got no love for Warren, but I respect that Obama's trying to win over the large segment of America that does.

And to be sure, Obama could have done far worse in the God Squad.

you disappoint me.

As the guy from Americans United said last nite, Warren is just "Jerry falwell in a Hawaiian shirt"
Title: Rick Warren
Post by: ggould on December 19, 2008, 07:33:31 AM
I was reviewing a blog post I did about Rick Warren 4 years ago (http://ggould.blogspot.com/2004/12/unmasking-rick-warren.html), and the pattern is similar.  He pretends to be impartial, but then tells us the non-negotiable opinion of God.  I trust Obama so far, but I really wish he hadn't included Warren in such a celebratory day.
Title: Re: President-elect Barack Obama
Post by: RGMike on December 19, 2008, 08:30:48 AM
and in other gay-bashing news (tho' this one's technically Bush's fault):

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2008/12/19/MNB914QRON.DTL
Title: Re: President-elect Barack Obama
Post by: mshray on December 19, 2008, 11:09:53 AM
Bumping this thread back up; surprised Gaz or someone hasn't commented on the Rick Warren-at-the-inauguration story.  "Ah am much much unhappy" about it.  Flock Rick Warren and his fuck, er, I mean, fuck Rick Warren and his flock.

I've got no love for Warren, but I respect that Obama's trying to win over the large segment of America that does.

And to be sure, Obama could have done far worse in the God Squad.

I agree with Gaz...this was a pretty easy bone to throw.

One thing about Warren, unlike any of his peers I can name (and certainly never Dobson, or the late Falwell, or anyone else who's ever appeared on FAUX News) he unremittingly preaches about service to others.  He may not have gays in mind when he does (and I don't forgive him that), but he's on the right side when it comes to the 3rd world, the environment, and lots of other issues.

Lest we forget, he not only personally conducted the Tsunami relief effort in 2006, he was the one who broke the story to the national press.
Title: Re: President-elect Barack Obama
Post by: mshray on December 19, 2008, 11:13:31 AM
and in other gay-bashing news (tho' this one's technically Bush's fault):

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2008/12/19/MNB914QRON.DTL

(http://imgs.sfgate.com/c/pictures/2008/12/18/mn-france-human__0499546794_part1.jpg)

Rama Yade, France's Human Rights Minister (and how cool is it that France has a ministry just for Human Rights?)

No offense, but I'd be inclined to agree with anything she said.

(ETA: unles of course she was using her thumb and forefinger to descibe me in some way  ;) :o ;) :o  )
Title: Re: President-elect Barack Obama
Post by: mshray on December 19, 2008, 11:16:52 AM
I personally cannot remember a presidency in transition that had so much focus on it before the inauguration. 

Unless you were listening to the radio in 1932, you wouldn't.  Hence all the FDR comparisons.
Title: Re: President-elect Barack Obama
Post by: RGMike on December 19, 2008, 11:38:14 AM
Bumping this thread back up; surprised Gaz or someone hasn't commented on the Rick Warren-at-the-inauguration story.  "Ah am much much unhappy" about it.  Flock Rick Warren and his fuck, er, I mean, fuck Rick Warren and his flock.

I've got no love for Warren, but I respect that Obama's trying to win over the large segment of America that does.

And to be sure, Obama could have done far worse in the God Squad.

I agree with Gaz...this was a pretty easy bone to throw.

One thing about Warren, unlike any of his peers I can name (and certainly never Dobson, or the late Falwell, or anyone else who's ever appeared on FAUX News) he unremittingly preaches about service to others.  He may not have gays in mind when he does (and I don't forgive him that), but he's on the right side when it comes to the 3rd world, the environment, and lots of other issues.

Lest we forget, he not only personally conducted the Tsunami relief effort in 2006, he was the one who broke the story to the national press.

Sorry to be the unrepentant atheist here, but the God Squad is still the God Squad, and if they're anti-gay and anti-choice and anti-stem cells... then all that service to others is just window-dressing. Laudable, yes, but window-dressing nonetheless. I am very tired of those people telling me I'm going to hell. VERY tired.
Title: Re: President-elect Barack Obama
Post by: mshray on December 19, 2008, 12:14:07 PM
Okay, I don't want to put myself in the position of defending Rick Warren nor Chritianity in general, but there are probably more Christians in favor of marriage equality than there are gay people in the US.  It's just that within the broader Christian community we are still outnumbered.  But the only way to make change happen is to engage people & make them change their minds.  Much as I viscerally hate their attitudes, insulting them won't change their minds any more than Jim Briggs & Anita Bryant could change mine.  And I was only 15 back then.

To that end I did a little research & at least Warren is meeting with the opposition (http://kimolsen.wordpress.com/2008/06/07/rick-warrens-latest-gay-fathers-day/ (http://kimolsen.wordpress.com/2008/06/07/rick-warrens-latest-gay-fathers-day/)).  In fact I intend to follow this group's activities (see http://www.soulforce.org/article/1473 (http://www.soulforce.org/article/1473)) because I think they are on the right track. 

I can say for sure that my folks & wife & both my kids (9 & 7) represent an 'Allied Family'.  I wish I knew how to get Desmond Tutu & Nelson Mandela to come over here & explain to the African-American community why they had no choice but to support marriage equality in South Africa - "Human Rights do not exist on a sliding scale."
Title: Re: President-elect Barack Obama
Post by: Lightnin' Rod on December 23, 2008, 09:16:53 AM
Jon Carrol weighs in on Warren.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/12/23/DDHR14RE7L.DTL
Title: Re: President-elect Barack Obama
Post by: RGMike on December 23, 2008, 09:23:30 AM
Jon Carrol weighs in on Warren.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/12/23/DDHR14RE7L.DTL

Superb as always. Thanks for that, Rod.
Title: Re: President-elect Barack Obama
Post by: RGMike on December 23, 2008, 12:48:18 PM
Obama makes the front page of the Post because of pecs, not policies:

(http://www.nypost.com//seven/12232008/img/front122308.jpg)
Title: Re: President-elect Barack Obama
Post by: RGMike on December 24, 2008, 09:44:20 AM
Jon Carrol weighs in on Warren.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/12/23/DDHR14RE7L.DTL

Superb as always. Thanks for that, Rod.

the best thing I've yet read on the subject, from Christopher Hitchens.

http://www.slate.com/id/2207148/

Hitchens is an odd bird: a neocon who was a big Iraq war supporter (Hiss!), but who is also an unrepentant atheist (Yay!). And so his basic premise -- "Never mind the gay thing, Warren is a sleazy huckser. Period." -- is both amusing and true.
Title: Re: President-elect Barack Obama
Post by: RGMike on December 30, 2008, 02:39:52 PM
this is the dawning of the Age of Obamaquarius!

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2008/12/30/findrelig123008.DTL
Title: Re: President-elect Barack Obama
Post by: Tinka Cat on December 31, 2008, 08:49:59 AM
this isn't really that Pres-Elect Obama related, but I have to ask:

how many of you also do your best John Frink glayvin voice when you pronounce "Rod Blagojevich"?


see?  see what I mean?  :)

Title: Re: President-elect Barack Obama
Post by: RGMike on December 31, 2008, 08:57:34 AM
this isn't really that Pres-Elect Obama related, but I have to ask:

how many of you also do your best John Frink glayvin voice when you pronounce "Rod Blagojevich"?


see?  see what I mean?  :)



aka "the Jerry Lewis voice" (Nutty Professor, iirc)  --- "laaaayyy-deeee!".  And if you've never heard the Falco parody, "Rock Me Jerry Lewis", you'e in for a treat:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNd_ChLQZKI
Title: Re: President-elect Barack Obama
Post by: RGMike on January 04, 2009, 04:59:56 PM
Bill Richardson withdraws as a Commerce Secretary nominee because... he's under investigation by a grand jury ?!?

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2009/01/04/national/w104139S66.DTL&tsp=1

Now, I've always liked Richardson; I actually felt bad for him when he didn't get Sec'y of State (he made no secret of the fact that was the job he really wanted). But jeezus, what is it with these guys who campaign for positions of power when there are skeletons in their closets that could be exposed at any moment?  (Yes, John Edwards, I'm looking at you.) And how did the Obama team not see this possibility coming? Sheesh. Sloppy sloppy sloppy.
Title: Re: President-elect Barack Obama
Post by: ggould on January 04, 2009, 05:03:51 PM
Bill Richardson withdraws as a Commerce Secretary nominee because... he's under investigation by a grand jury ?!?

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2009/01/04/national/w104139S66.DTL&tsp=1

Now, I've always liked Richardson; I actually felt bad for him when he didn't get Sec'y of State (he made no secret of the fact that was the job he really wanted). But jeezus, what is it with these guys who campaign for positions of power when there are skeletons in their closets that could be exposed at any moment?  (Yes, John Edwards, I'm looking at you.) And how did the Obama team not see this possibility coming? Sheesh. Sloppy sloppy sloppy.
I'm thinking that Richardson might fill some slot later.  It seems like the element of delaying his nomination was part of the reason.
Title: Re: President-elect Barack Obama
Post by: ggould on January 05, 2009, 08:50:14 AM
Bill Richardson withdraws as a Commerce Secretary nominee because... he's under investigation by a grand jury ?!?

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2009/01/04/national/w104139S66.DTL&tsp=1

Now, I've always liked Richardson; I actually felt bad for him when he didn't get Sec'y of State (he made no secret of the fact that was the job he really wanted). But jeezus, what is it with these guys who campaign for positions of power when there are skeletons in their closets that could be exposed at any moment?  (Yes, John Edwards, I'm looking at you.) And how did the Obama team not see this possibility coming? Sheesh. Sloppy sloppy sloppy.
I'm thinking that Richardson might fill some slot later.  It seems like the element of delaying his nomination was part of the reason.
I like Bill Richardson, from what I've seen on TV, but Greg Palast doesn't:

http://www.gregpalast.com/bill-richardson-kissinger-american/#more-2176
Title: Re: President-elect Barack Obama
Post by: RGMike on January 05, 2009, 08:55:14 AM
Bill Richardson withdraws as a Commerce Secretary nominee because... he's under investigation by a grand jury ?!?

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2009/01/04/national/w104139S66.DTL&tsp=1

Now, I've always liked Richardson; I actually felt bad for him when he didn't get Sec'y of State (he made no secret of the fact that was the job he really wanted). But jeezus, what is it with these guys who campaign for positions of power when there are skeletons in their closets that could be exposed at any moment?  (Yes, John Edwards, I'm looking at you.) And how did the Obama team not see this possibility coming? Sheesh. Sloppy sloppy sloppy.
I'm thinking that Richardson might fill some slot later.  It seems like the element of delaying his nomination was part of the reason.
I like Bill Richardson, from what I've seen on TV, but Greg Palast doesn't:

http://www.gregpalast.com/bill-richardson-kissinger-american/#more-2176


I've never heard of Mr Palast... but that's some VERY interesting stuff, I must say.
Title: Re: President-elect Barack Obama
Post by: ggould on January 05, 2009, 12:32:54 PM
Bill Richardson withdraws as a Commerce Secretary nominee because... he's under investigation by a grand jury ?!?

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2009/01/04/national/w104139S66.DTL&tsp=1

Now, I've always liked Richardson; I actually felt bad for him when he didn't get Sec'y of State (he made no secret of the fact that was the job he really wanted). But jeezus, what is it with these guys who campaign for positions of power when there are skeletons in their closets that could be exposed at any moment?  (Yes, John Edwards, I'm looking at you.) And how did the Obama team not see this possibility coming? Sheesh. Sloppy sloppy sloppy.
I'm thinking that Richardson might fill some slot later.  It seems like the element of delaying his nomination was part of the reason.
I like Bill Richardson, from what I've seen on TV, but Greg Palast doesn't:

http://www.gregpalast.com/bill-richardson-kissinger-american/#more-2176


I've never heard of Mr Palast... but that's some VERY interesting stuff, I must say.
he's a major investigative reporter for the alternative press.  Very big during the elections re: voter suppression and such
Title: Re: President-elect Barack Obama
Post by: RGMike on January 05, 2009, 12:54:54 PM
It's a brave new world!

http://www.ucbcomedy.com/videos/play/1506
Title: Re: President-elect Barack Obama
Post by: urth on January 06, 2009, 05:47:19 PM
Not to keep flogging this horse, but here's Rachel Maddow and Katha Pollitt with a bit more on the selection of Rick Warren to participate in the inauguration ceremony:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rwk845iMXY
Title: Re: President-elect Barack Obama
Post by: RGMike on January 06, 2009, 06:02:32 PM
Not to keep flogging this horse, but here's Rachel Maddow and Katha Pollitt with a bit more on the selection of Rick Warren to participate in the inauguration ceremony:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rwk845iMXY

I love Rachel; she's been a major agitator on this issue and I say more power to her. Now I wanna see her jump on the Springsteen/WalMart story (which i haven't seen getting much mainstream press coverage).
Title: Re: President-elect Barack Obama
Post by: ggould on January 06, 2009, 08:45:42 PM
Not to keep flogging this horse, but here's Rachel Maddow and Katha Pollitt with a bit more on the selection of Rick Warren to participate in the inauguration ceremony:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rwk845iMXY

I love Rachel; she's been a major agitator on this issue and I say more power to her. Now I wanna see her jump on the Springsteen/WalMart story (which i haven't seen getting much mainstream press coverage).

I also like Rachel a lot, and am eager to see how this all plays out.  While I think it's clear that Rick is a blowhard male chauvinist egomaniac, I think the fact that the Saddleback web site changed its language, if not its reality, is a sign that there is perhaps some influence going in Warren's direction.  Hard to say, I think people like him are pretty incorrigible.
Title: Re: President-elect Barack Obama
Post by: RGMike on January 08, 2009, 09:12:07 AM
(http://hollywood-elsewhere.com/images/column/103108/bethechange.jpg)
Title: Re: President-elect Barack Obama
Post by: ggould on January 08, 2009, 09:28:25 AM
Not to keep flogging this horse, but here's Rachel Maddow and Katha Pollitt with a bit more on the selection of Rick Warren to participate in the inauguration ceremony:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rwk845iMXY

I love Rachel; she's been a major agitator on this issue and I say more power to her. Now I wanna see her jump on the Springsteen/WalMart story (which i haven't seen getting much mainstream press coverage).

I also like Rachel a lot, and am eager to see how this all plays out.  While I think it's clear that Rick is a blowhard male chauvinist egomaniac, I think the fact that the Saddleback web site changed its language, if not its reality, is a sign that there is perhaps some influence going in Warren's direction.  Hard to say, I think people like him are pretty incorrigible.
anyone see Rachel on the Daily Show last night?  She wore the nerdiest glasses imaginable, and said she doesn't own a TV. 
Title: Re: President-elect Barack Obama
Post by: mshray on January 08, 2009, 09:58:25 AM
Not to keep flogging this horse, but here's Rachel Maddow and Katha Pollitt with a bit more on the selection of Rick Warren to participate in the inauguration ceremony:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rwk845iMXY

I love Rachel; she's been a major agitator on this issue and I say more power to her. Now I wanna see her jump on the Springsteen/WalMart story (which i haven't seen getting much mainstream press coverage).

I also like Rachel a lot, and am eager to see how this all plays out.  While I think it's clear that Rick is a blowhard male chauvinist egomaniac, I think the fact that the Saddleback web site changed its language, if not its reality, is a sign that there is perhaps some influence going in Warren's direction.  Hard to say, I think people like him are pretty incorrigible.

I am inetersted now in the parallels between Wright & Warren. 

Each got some pub from associating with Obama, each got called out for grievous statmenets in their past, each received a minimum of support from Obama - but likewise no specific condemnation, and then each went out and very publicly & unilaterally made themselves look like even bigger idiots.

I have to wonder if this isn't some nefarious talent that Obama has perfected, of giving people enough rope so that they hang themselves before he has to stoop to doing anything about it himself.

Either way the net result is to move public opinion away from sympathy from the extreme sides of both the Black Urban Church & the White Suburban Mega-Church.  Brilliant!
Title: Re: President-elect Barack Obama
Post by: Wayback on January 08, 2009, 07:04:53 PM
Here you go, six pictures from new comic book where Spiderman saves the day at Obama's inauguration, as an imposter tries to take Obama's place:
http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/Spider-Man-and-Obama/ss/events/en/010909obamaspidey (http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/Spider-Man-and-Obama/ss/events/en/010909obamaspidey)
Title: Re: President-elect Barack Obama
Post by: Gazoo on January 08, 2009, 09:58:16 PM
Here you go, six pictures from new comic book where Spiderman saves the day at Obama's inauguration, as an imposter tries to take Obama's place:
http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/Spider-Man-and-Obama/ss/events/en/010909obamaspidey (http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/Spider-Man-and-Obama/ss/events/en/010909obamaspidey)

Oh wow, I had no idea about this!  Thanks!  (My brother and nephew are HUGE Spider-Man fanatics.)
Title: Re: President-elect Barack Obama
Post by: urth on January 12, 2009, 09:47:38 AM
A group from Portland called The Get A Life Marching Band (http://www.getalifemb.org/) has been invited to participate in Obama's inaugural parade next week in DC. They were asked to play a song that was written in Oregon, so they're doing Louie, Louie. As a medley with We're An American Band (which, to my knowledge, was NOT written in Oregon).
Title: Re: President-elect Barack Obama
Post by: mshray on January 12, 2009, 10:52:47 AM
A group from Portland called The Get A Life Marching Band (http://www.getalifemb.org/) has been invited to participate in Obama's inaugural parade next week in DC. They were asked to play a song that was written in Oregon, so they're doing Louie, Louie. As a medley with We're An American Band (which, to my knowledge, was NOT written in Oregon).

My brother's band does a really good medley of Louie Louie with Wild Thing.
Title: Re: President-elect Barack Obama
Post by: RGMike on January 14, 2009, 09:40:30 AM
As the one here who groused most loudly about the Rick Warren thing, I must say this is good news, assuming it actually happens:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/01/13/MNTG159HHG.DTL&type=politics&tsp=1
Title: Re: President-elect Barack Obama
Post by: ggould on January 14, 2009, 11:09:10 AM
As the one here who groused most loudly about the Rick Warren thing, I must say this is good news, assuming it actually happens:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/01/13/MNTG159HHG.DTL&type=politics&tsp=1

I thought of you when I read about this in the paper this morning!  I'm hoping he makes it happen too.  Clinton tried, but ran into a firestorm.  I liked the fact that the article had some accompanying poll graphics showing how times have changed.

(http://imgs.sfgate.com/c/pictures/2009/01/13/ba-dontask0114_g_SFCG1231900730.jpg)

(http://www.televisionheaven.co.uk/prisoner3.jpg)

Who is #1?
Title: Re: President-elect Barack Obama
Post by: RGMike on January 14, 2009, 07:44:56 PM
Even more good Obama/GLBT news: Gene Robinson, the openly gay Episcopal bishop from New Hampshire, is giving the invocation at this weekend's Inauguration Concert Thingy (Springsteen, etc).

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/01/12/gene-robinson-gay-bishop_n_157076.html

Saw him tonite on Rachel Maddow's show, he was VERY cool.
Title: Re: President-elect Barack Obama
Post by: urth on January 14, 2009, 08:44:43 PM
Even more good Obama/GLBT news: Gene Robinson, the openly gay Episcopal bishop from New Hampshire, is giving the invocation at this weekend's Inauguration Concert Thingy (Springsteen, etc).

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/01/12/gene-robinson-gay-bishop_n_157076.html

Saw him tonite on Rachel Maddow's show, he was VERY cool.

But! He will not invoke the name Jesus in his inaugural prayer. Instead he's going to pray to the "god of our understandings," whatever that might be. Which sits just fine with me, but might be misconstrued by the fundies in some fashion.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/01/14/gay-bishop-gene-robinson_n_157842.html

ETA: Forgot to add a personal aside to this: I did a double-take when I first read the initial post, as I had a friend in college named Gene Robinson who was somewhat religious, and who several of us thought was likely to be closeted. The bishop in New Hampshire definitely is not him, however, as my friend is black, and the last time I saw him he had an amazingly hot blonde wife. So much for our instincts.
Title: Re: President-elect Barack Obama
Post by: Gazoo on January 15, 2009, 10:03:03 PM
Since this thread is covering all things Rick Warren:

http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/SavageLove?oid=969486

I dug #2 and #5, m'self.
Title: Re: President-elect Barack Obama
Post by: SFGuy on January 16, 2009, 01:23:56 AM
I realize the alternative but are you folks a bit disappointed that so far Obama seems to be a moderate as opposed to a progressive/liberal?
Title: Re: President-elect Barack Obama
Post by: RGMike on January 16, 2009, 07:27:09 AM
I realize the alternative but are you folks a bit disappointed that so far Obama seems to be a moderate as opposed to a progressive/liberal?

I'm too old and cynical to believe any president can be overly progressive/liberal. To a large extent, people (esp the young) read whatever they wanted into the notion of "change". Actually (my Rick Warren complaints aside) I generally like the idea of a center-left pragmatist who confounds people on both sides.
Title: Re: President-elect Barack Obama
Post by: Gazoo on January 16, 2009, 08:05:50 AM
I realize the alternative but are you folks a bit disappointed that so far Obama seems to be a moderate as opposed to a progressive/liberal?

I was hoping for something more "Wild in the Streets," myself.   ;)
Title: Re: President-elect Barack Obama
Post by: urth on January 16, 2009, 09:50:46 AM
I realize the alternative but are you folks a bit disappointed that so far Obama seems to be a moderate as opposed to a progressive/liberal?

The Warren dustup aside, I think Obama's style of governing will be so diametrically different to the "if you're not with us you're agin' us" ethos of the past administration that he'd have to turn into Josef Stalin for me to be very disappointed. Besides, I don't expect that he'd try to enact broad change right away, let alone in his first months in office. However, over the broader spectrum of what will hopefully be two terms, I think that there will be some significant changes from what we've seen over the past 8 years.
Title: Re: President-elect Barack Obama
Post by: mshray on January 16, 2009, 10:22:14 AM

I think Obama's style of governing will be so diametrically different to the "if you're not with us you're agin' us" ethos of the past administration

Agreed, but that's Number Two.  Number One is, he is a guy who really thinks for himself, as opposed to someone who does what he's told (...by Rove, by Cheney, etc.)
Title: Re: President-elect Barack Obama
Post by: RGMike on January 16, 2009, 10:37:51 AM

I think Obama's style of governing will be so diametrically different to the "if you're not with us you're agin' us" ethos of the past administration

Agreed, but that's Number Two.  Number One is, he is a guy who really thinks for himself, as opposed to someone who does what he's told (...by Rove, by Cheney, etc.)

Indeed, that was my argument to undecideds thru the campaign -- "after 8 years of Uncurious George, how about a SMART person in the White House? What a concept!"
Title: Re: President-elect Barack Obama
Post by: Gazoo on January 16, 2009, 10:43:18 AM
I realize the alternative but are you folks a bit disappointed that so far Obama seems to be a moderate as opposed to a progressive/liberal?

My more serious answer is that the older I get, the more amenable I am to compromise; and as others have said above, I'm trying to look at the broader 8-year picture.  Millions upon millions were hoodwinked by the last Administration (not to mention a bunch of religious leaders and intemperate pundits) into divisive ideas about what it means to be a person, to be moral, to be free.  That damage needs to be undone before we as a nation can really move in a progressive direction.  (IMNSHO)
Title: Rockin' out with Barack & Michelle
Post by: urth on January 16, 2009, 11:05:26 AM
Was tempted to put this in the Concert thread, but really it belongs here. A day-by-day guide to all the music that's happening around DC between tomorrow and Tuesday.
http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/day-by-day-the-obama-inauguration-music-1003931184.story?pn=3

I would particularly point out the Big Shoulders Ball on the 19th featuring Andrew Bird, Ted Leo, Tortoise, and Eleventh Dream Day, to name a few.

Also, both the SF Boys Chorus and SF Girls Chorus are singing at the Swearing-in Ceremony--but why not the Gay Men's Chorus? Wouldn't that have made for fun in the Green Room, hanging out with Rev. Rick and the fundies?

Title: Re: Rockin' out with Barack & Michelle
Post by: RGMike on January 16, 2009, 11:40:10 AM
Was tempted to put this in the Concert thread, but really it belongs here. A day-by-day guide to all the music that's happening around DC between tomorrow and Tuesday.
http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/day-by-day-the-obama-inauguration-music-1003931184.story?pn=3

I would particularly point out the Big Shoulders Ball on the 19th featuring Andrew Bird, Ted Leo, Tortoise, and Eleventh Dream Day, to name a few.

Also, both the SF Boys Chorus and SF Girls Chorus are singing at the Swearing-in Ceremony--but why not the Gay Men's Chorus? Wouldn't that have made for fun in the Green Room, hanging out with Rev. Rick and the fundies?



The SF Boy's chorus will grow up (by & large) to *be* the SFGMC in 20 years  ;)

Also worth noting that the big-ass Sunday thing (U2, Broooce, JCM etc) will be live on HBO -- even if you don't subscribe you'll be able to see it for free.
Title: Re: President-elect Barack Obama
Post by: RGMike on January 16, 2009, 11:59:16 AM
Robert Indiana strikes again.

(http://i.usatoday.net/Wires2Web/20080830/2854729396_Robert_Indiana_HOPEx.jpg)
Title: Re: Rockin' out with Barack & Michelle
Post by: RGMike on January 18, 2009, 11:48:07 AM
Was tempted to put this in the Concert thread, but really it belongs here. A day-by-day guide to all the music that's happening around DC between tomorrow and Tuesday.
http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/day-by-day-the-obama-inauguration-music-1003931184.story?pn=3

I would particularly point out the Big Shoulders Ball on the 19th featuring Andrew Bird, Ted Leo, Tortoise, and Eleventh Dream Day, to name a few.

Also, both the SF Boys Chorus and SF Girls Chorus are singing at the Swearing-in Ceremony--but why not the Gay Men's Chorus? Wouldn't that have made for fun in the Green Room, hanging out with Rev. Rick and the fundies?



The SF Boy's chorus will grow up (by & large) to *be* the SFGMC in 20 years  ;)

Also worth noting that the big-ass Sunday thing (U2, Broooce, JCM etc) will be live on HBO -- even if you don't subscribe you'll be able to see it for free.

And I hope you all are watching -- Springsteen just did "The Rising" backed by a huge gospel choir. Just amazing.

And now here's Mary J Blige doing "Lean on Me'. Damn!
Title: Re: President-elect Barack Obama
Post by: RGMike on January 18, 2009, 12:11:44 PM
Even the JT-hatas here have gotta admit that "Shower the People" fits in nicely with the themes of the day; and teaming James Taylor with John Legend was a stroke of genius IMHO. A lovely moment.
Title: Re: President-elect Barack Obama
Post by: RGMike on January 18, 2009, 12:36:34 PM
Talk about your musical diversity: Sheryl Crow, Herbie Hancock and Will.I.Am team up for Marley's "One Love".
Title: Re: President-elect Barack Obama
Post by: RGMike on January 18, 2009, 12:42:05 PM
Holy crap! Garth Brooks doing "American Pie". Well, his version is better than Madonna's, anyway.

ETA: and Garth follows that with "Shout" and then his own gospel-country "We Shall Be Free" (which got him in trouble at country radio back in the day 'cause it was pro-gay).
Title: Re: President-elect Barack Obama
Post by: RGMike on January 18, 2009, 12:51:09 PM
DAY-um! Usher, Shakira and Stevie Wonder team up for "Higher Ground"!
Title: Re: President-elect Barack Obama
Post by: RGMike on January 18, 2009, 12:59:11 PM
Sorry, Dave Marsh: U2's here and they're doing "Pride in the Name of Love".

(Mr Marsh apparently dislikes Bono and hates that song.)
Title: Re: President-elect Barack Obama
Post by: mshray on January 18, 2009, 08:42:00 PM
My wife now works at Safeway HQ, and on Tuesday they will have the inaguration on a big screen in the main cafeteria.  All HQ employees are invited to leave their desks and watch the whole thing.  All store employees are allowed to use their breakroom TV's to watch as much as they can without actually closing the store.

In my office our HR Dir/Office Mgr is taking the day off just to watch it.  With three other guys are currently in Taiwan, I might be the only one in the office, so I think I can watch online all I want.

Where is everyone else going to be?

p.s. my cousin Jerome (of Madonna concert fame) & his boyfriend George won some kind of lottery in CO & got official tix.  They're in DC now & probably attended that concert.  I guess the old saying 'what goes around comes around' is True!
Title: Re: President-elect Barack Obama
Post by: RGMike on January 18, 2009, 09:06:52 PM
My wife now works at Safeway HQ, and on Tuesday they will have the inaguration on a big screen in the main cafeteria.  All HQ employees are invited to leave their desks and watch the whole thing.  All store employees are allowed to use their breakroom TV's to watch as much as they can without actually closing the store.

In my office our HR Dir/Office Mgr is taking the day off just to watch it.  With three other guys are currently in Taiwan, I might be the only one in the office, so I think I can watch online all I want.

Where is everyone else going to be?

Kaiser is also showing it in one of the big conference rooms in our building; I'll watch the swearing-in and his speech there and will probably be back at my desk in time for 10@10 ('cause O's daughters told him to make the speech short!).
Title: Re: President-elect Barack Obama's Inauguration
Post by: ggould on January 18, 2009, 11:13:52 PM
Where is everyone else going to be?
We are slated to be in some typical mind-numbing professional development.  I suspect there will be a lot of pressure to let us watch the ceremony instead.
Title: Re: President-elect Barack Obama
Post by: urth on January 19, 2009, 12:22:31 AM
My wife now works at Safeway HQ, and on Tuesday they will have the inaguration on a big screen in the main cafeteria.  All HQ employees are invited to leave their desks and watch the whole thing.  All store employees are allowed to use their breakroom TV's to watch as much as they can without actually closing the store.

In my office our HR Dir/Office Mgr is taking the day off just to watch it.  With three other guys are currently in Taiwan, I might be the only one in the office, so I think I can watch online all I want.

Where is everyone else going to be?

Kaiser is also showing it in one of the big conference rooms in our building; I'll watch the swearing-in and his speech there and will probably be back at my desk in time for 10@10 ('cause O's daughters told him to make the speech short!).

I am going to start my workday late, so will be downstairs in front of my Toshiba 27". But like Mike, I may be back up at my desk in time for 10@10 if the ceremony is not too long.
Title: Re: President-elect Barack Obama
Post by: Gazoo on January 19, 2009, 07:05:45 AM
I'm working overnight tonight, finishing by 4am, so I may well be conked out for the duration.

I look forward to watching some of these performances on YouTube soon!
Title: Re: President-elect Barack Obama
Post by: Gazoo on January 19, 2009, 12:44:26 PM
http://www.hbo.com/weareone/
Title: Re: Rockin' out with Barack & Michelle
Post by: urth on January 19, 2009, 12:47:25 PM
Was tempted to put this in the Concert thread, but really it belongs here. A day-by-day guide to all the music that's happening around DC between tomorrow and Tuesday.
http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/day-by-day-the-obama-inauguration-music-1003931184.story?pn=3

I would particularly point out the Big Shoulders Ball on the 19th featuring Andrew Bird, Ted Leo, Tortoise, and Eleventh Dream Day, to name a few.

Also, both the SF Boys Chorus and SF Girls Chorus are singing at the Swearing-in Ceremony--but why not the Gay Men's Chorus? Wouldn't that have made for fun in the Green Room, hanging out with Rev. Rick and the fundies?



The SF Boy's chorus will grow up (by & large) to *be* the SFGMC in 20 years  ;)

Also worth noting that the big-ass Sunday thing (U2, Broooce, JCM etc) will be live on HBO -- even if you don't subscribe you'll be able to see it for free.

Anyone watch this? I tivo'd it, and am dismayed to report my DVR has picked this occasion to start malfunctioning--I've got periodic skips, pauses in the picture and jumps ahead in the sound. So I haven't exactly been able to see all of it.

One thing I was able to see (regretfully) was Josh Groban and a woman I don't recall singing My Country Tis of Thee. I noticed a large number of red ribbons on the lapels of the men's chorus backing them up. So perhaps some gay men's chorus (probably not SF's) was able to get on the program after all.
Title: Re: Rockin' out with Barack & Michelle
Post by: RGMike on January 19, 2009, 12:57:25 PM
Was tempted to put this in the Concert thread, but really it belongs here. A day-by-day guide to all the music that's happening around DC between tomorrow and Tuesday.
http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/day-by-day-the-obama-inauguration-music-1003931184.story?pn=3

I would particularly point out the Big Shoulders Ball on the 19th featuring Andrew Bird, Ted Leo, Tortoise, and Eleventh Dream Day, to name a few.

Also, both the SF Boys Chorus and SF Girls Chorus are singing at the Swearing-in Ceremony--but why not the Gay Men's Chorus? Wouldn't that have made for fun in the Green Room, hanging out with Rev. Rick and the fundies?



The SF Boy's chorus will grow up (by & large) to *be* the SFGMC in 20 years  ;)

Also worth noting that the big-ass Sunday thing (U2, Broooce, JCM etc) will be live on HBO -- even if you don't subscribe you'll be able to see it for free.

Anyone watch this? I tivo'd it, and am dismayed to report my DVR has picked this occasion to start malfunctioning--I've got periodic skips, pauses in the picture and jumps ahead in the sound. So I haven't exactly been able to see all of it.

One thing I was able to see (regretfully) was Josh Groban and a woman I don't recall singing My Country Tis of Thee. I noticed a large number of red ribbons on the lapels of the men's chorus backing them up. So perhaps some gay men's chorus (probably not SF's) was able to get on the program after all.

see my multiple comments above. Overall, it was pretty wonderful. I'm guessing that chorus was either the Wash DC GMC or the one from Chicago. Virtually every city has one.
Title: Re: Rockin' out with Barack & Michelle
Post by: Lightnin' Rod on January 19, 2009, 01:23:25 PM
see my multiple comments above. Overall, it was pretty wonderful.

Agreed -- I saw a lot of it (missed the early bits) and it was very fine.  Pretty difficult not to appear inspiring on that stage...
Title: Re: Rockin' out with Barack & Michelle
Post by: ggould on January 19, 2009, 01:26:50 PM
see my multiple comments above. Overall, it was pretty wonderful.

Agreed -- I saw a lot of it (missed the early bits) and it was very fine.  Pretty difficult not to appear inspiring on that stage...
we finally got our On Demand working.  It's not easy to navigate.  Is there some way to find it there?  I was away from the house during the event.
Title: Re: Rockin' out with Barack & Michelle
Post by: Gazoo on January 19, 2009, 01:38:21 PM
Josh Groban and a woman I don't recall singing My Country Tis of Thee.

Broadway actress Heather Headley.
Title: Re: Rockin' out with Barack & Michelle
Post by: RGMike on January 19, 2009, 02:02:39 PM
see my multiple comments above. Overall, it was pretty wonderful.

Agreed -- I saw a lot of it (missed the early bits) and it was very fine.  Pretty difficult not to appear inspiring on that stage...
we finally got our On Demand working.  It's not easy to navigate.  Is there some way to find it there?  I was away from the house during the event.

Try Premium Channels --> HBO --> Specials; it should be on the menu by now, tho' sometimes they wait a couple days if there are multiple re-airings of something (as there were yesterday with "We Are One"; it may be re-airing again today).
Title: Re: President-elect Barack Obama
Post by: RGMike on January 19, 2009, 06:39:39 PM
And in case you wondered about that gay bishop's invocation yesterday... HBO goofed and it wasn't broadcast. Ooops.

But if you're looking for uplift tonite, the KPOO Mon nite oldies show is doing 3 hours of "songs of change".  His theme shows tend to be very cool, so check it out.
Title: Re: President-elect Barack Obama
Post by: ggould on January 19, 2009, 08:52:06 PM
And in case you wondered about that gay bishop's invocation yesterday... HBO goofed and it wasn't broadcast. Ooops.

But if you're looking for uplift tonite, the KPOO Mon nite oldies show is doing 3 hours of "songs of change".  His theme shows tend to be very cool, so check it out.
plenty of news stories about the screwup.  It's on YouTube at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWWAnitUCw4

and supposedly it will be included in future rebroadcasts, and also show at the inauguration tomorrow.

The concert is being shown on the web at http://www.hbo.com/weareone/webcast/index.html

I was able somehow to download it to a QuickTime file, which allowed me to watch in full-screen mode.
Title: Re: President-elect Barack Obama
Post by: RGMike on January 20, 2009, 07:42:58 AM
The audacity of... SOAP!

(http://rarebirdfinds.typepad.com/rare_bird_finds/images/2008/08/11/barrackobama.jpg)

(yeah, that's supposed to be Obama)

"you ain't no icon
carved outta soap
sent here to clean up mah reputation..."
Title: Re: President-elect Barack Obama
Post by: RGMike on January 20, 2009, 09:53:01 AM
Just got back from watching -- arrived at the conference room in time for Rick Warren; I must say his invocation was very much in tune with the spirit of the day. Then came Ree-Ree with her Sunday-go-to-meetin' hat for "My Country 'Tis of thee".  And the classical piece (which I recognized as Copland, tho' John Williams was credited by C-SPAN) was quite, er, classy.

Obama's speech was, i think, terrific (and, true to his daughter's request, short -- just about 20 mins). As an atheist, I was especially impressed when he said "We are a nation of Christians and Muslims... Jews and Hindus and non-believers."  We don't usually get shout-outs from the presidential podium. Can ah get an "Amen"?
Title: Re: President-elect Barack Obama
Post by: RGMike on January 20, 2009, 10:20:26 AM
the classical piece (which I recognized as Copland, tho' John Williams was credited by C-SPAN) was quite, er, classy.


Hrm... every news outlet I've seen is calling that piece a John Williams composition called "Air and Simple Gifts" but it was clearly a rip-off of Copland's "Appalachian Spring" -- WTF?
Title: Re: President-elect Barack Obama
Post by: urth on January 20, 2009, 10:31:29 AM
the classical piece (which I recognized as Copland, tho' John Williams was credited by C-SPAN) was quite, er, classy.


Hrm... every news outlet I've seen is calling that piece a John Williams composition called "Air and Simple Gifts" but it was clearly a rip-off of Copland's "Appalachian Spring" -- WTF?

I thought ABC credited it to Copland, and Williams did the orchestration.
Title: Re: President-elect Barack Obama
Post by: urth on January 20, 2009, 10:33:36 AM
Just got back from watching -- arrived at the conference room in time for Rick Warren; I must say his invocation was very much in tune with the spirit of the day. Then came Ree-Ree with her Sunday-go-to-meetin' hat for "My Country 'Tis of thee".  And the classical piece (which I recognized as Copland, tho' John Williams was credited by C-SPAN) was quite, er, classy.

Obama's speech was, i think, terrific (and, true to his daughter's request, short -- just about 20 mins). As an atheist, I was especially impressed when he said "We are a nation of Christians and Muslims... Jews and Hindus and non-believers."  We don't usually get shout-outs from the presidential podium. Can ah get an "Amen"?

AMEN!!! That was not lost on me either--more evidence that Obama will strive to include everyone, rather than the extreme exclusionary policies of the Bush administration.

Btw, Bush Street has been renamed Obama Street for today. (Probably not officially, however.) :D:D:D
http://laughingsquid.com/bush-street-renamed-obama-street-in-san-francisco/
Title: Re: President-elect Barack Obama
Post by: RGMike on January 20, 2009, 10:57:23 AM
the classical piece (which I recognized as Copland, tho' John Williams was credited by C-SPAN) was quite, er, classy.


Hrm... every news outlet I've seen is calling that piece a John Williams composition called "Air and Simple Gifts" but it was clearly a rip-off of Copland's "Appalachian Spring" -- WTF?

I thought ABC credited it to Copland, and Williams did the orchestration.

If so, ABC is in the minority -- I keep coming across references to it as being Williams'.  My college radio station signed on every morning with 3 hours of classical music called "The Morning Concert", and "Appalachian Spring" was the opening theme music, so it's that rare classical piece that's burned into my brain.
Title: Re: President-elect Barack Obama
Post by: Gazoo on January 20, 2009, 11:18:47 AM
Just got back from watching -- arrived at the conference room in time for Rick Warren; I must say his invocation was very much in tune with the spirit of the day. Then came Ree-Ree with her Sunday-go-to-meetin' hat for "My Country 'Tis of thee".  And the classical piece (which I recognized as Copland, tho' John Williams was credited by C-SPAN) was quite, er, classy.

Obama's speech was, i think, terrific (and, true to his daughter's request, short -- just about 20 mins). As an atheist, I was especially impressed when he said "We are a nation of Christians and Muslims... Jews and Hindus and non-believers."  We don't usually get shout-outs from the presidential podium. Can ah get an "Amen"?

AMEN!!! That was not lost on me either--more evidence that Obama will strive to include everyone, rather than the extreme exclusionary policies of the Bush administration.

I made note of the exact same thing - I watched the speech and pomp in Times Square with my friend/coworker Dan.  We thought it would be impossibly crowded, but apparently most New Yorkers were watching from their offices; it was a typical Times Square day and we were surrounded mostly by Euro tourists.

PS: LOL at Ree-Ree's hat.
Title: Re: President-elect Barack Obama
Post by: mshray on January 20, 2009, 11:54:18 AM
the classical piece (which I recognized as Copland, tho' John Williams was credited by C-SPAN) was quite, er, classy.


Hrm... every news outlet I've seen is calling that piece a John Williams composition called "Air and Simple Gifts" but it was clearly a rip-off of Copland's "Appalachian Spring" -- WTF?

I thought ABC credited it to Copland, and Williams did the orchestration.

If so, ABC is in the minority -- I keep coming across references to it as being Williams'.  My college radio station signed on every morning with 3 hours of classical music called "The Morning Concert", and "Appalachian Spring" was the opening theme music, so it's that rare classical piece that's burned into my brain.

First of all, Copland worked a 200+ year old hymn into Appalachian Spring called "Simple Gifts".  I've sung that in church (bet Geoff has, too).  I was tuned into MSNBC & Olberman inroduced it as composed by John Williams, and after he called it "a John Williams arrangement of an old Quaker hymn, clearly inspired by Aaron Copland."  I think that about covers it.
Title: Re: President-elect Barack Obama
Post by: urth on January 20, 2009, 12:00:26 PM
Just got back from watching -- arrived at the conference room in time for Rick Warren; I must say his invocation was very much in tune with the spirit of the day. Then came Ree-Ree with her Sunday-go-to-meetin' hat for "My Country 'Tis of thee".  And the classical piece (which I recognized as Copland, tho' John Williams was credited by C-SPAN) was quite, er, classy.

Obama's speech was, i think, terrific (and, true to his daughter's request, short -- just about 20 mins). As an atheist, I was especially impressed when he said "We are a nation of Christians and Muslims... Jews and Hindus and non-believers."  We don't usually get shout-outs from the presidential podium. Can ah get an "Amen"?

AMEN!!! That was not lost on me either--more evidence that Obama will strive to include everyone, rather than the extreme exclusionary policies of the Bush administration.

I made note of the exact same thing - I watched the speech and pomp in Times Square with my friend/coworker Dan.  We thought it would be impossibly crowded, but apparently most New Yorkers were watching from their offices; it was a typical Times Square day and we were surrounded mostly by Euro tourists.

PS: LOL at Ree-Ree's hat.

Glad you were able to be up to see it (didn't you work the overnight shift last night?). Definitely a huge moment in history. Sarah and I watched it on the small set in our bedroom due to extreme glare on the screen of our bigger set in the living room (it's sunny here again today--oh darn).

Due to the lack of relevant content in today's '82 set, I'm sitting here listening to the November 4 Election Day set that I got from Wayback--many thanks!
Title: Re: President-elect Barack Obama
Post by: Lightnin' Rod on January 20, 2009, 12:04:44 PM
Just got back from watching -- arrived at the conference room in time for Rick Warren; I must say his invocation was very much in tune with the spirit of the day. Then came Ree-Ree with her Sunday-go-to-meetin' hat for "My Country 'Tis of thee".  And the classical piece (which I recognized as Copland, tho' John Williams was credited by C-SPAN) was quite, er, classy.

Obama's speech was, i think, terrific (and, true to his daughter's request, short -- just about 20 mins). As an atheist, I was especially impressed when he said "We are a nation of Christians and Muslims... Jews and Hindus and non-believers."  We don't usually get shout-outs from the presidential podium. Can ah get an "Amen"?

AMEN!!! That was not lost on me either--more evidence that Obama will strive to include everyone, rather than the extreme exclusionary policies of the Bush administration.

I made note of the exact same thing - I watched the speech and pomp in Times Square with my friend/coworker Dan.  We thought it would be impossibly crowded, but apparently most New Yorkers were watching from their offices; it was a typical Times Square day and we were surrounded mostly by Euro tourists.

PS: LOL at Ree-Ree's hat.

Glad you were able to be up to see it (didn't you work the overnight shift last night?). Definitely a huge moment in history. Sarah and I watched it on the small set in our bedroom due to extreme glare on the screen of our bigger set in the living room (it's sunny here again today--oh darn).

Due to the lack of relevant content in today's '82 set, I'm sitting here listening to the November 4 Election Day set that I got from Wayback--many thanks!

I tried streaming it this morning, but I couldn't find a stream that didn't buffer every 20 seconds or so, which made it unwatchable.  I just read the full text of the speech.  As I am also an atheist, I apprecieate the non-believers reference as well.
Title: Re: President-elect Barack Obama
Post by: ggould on January 20, 2009, 12:07:50 PM
the classical piece (which I recognized as Copland, tho' John Williams was credited by C-SPAN) was quite, er, classy.


Hrm... every news outlet I've seen is calling that piece a John Williams composition called "Air and Simple Gifts" but it was clearly a rip-off of Copland's "Appalachian Spring" -- WTF?

I thought ABC credited it to Copland, and Williams did the orchestration.

If so, ABC is in the minority -- I keep coming across references to it as being Williams'.  My college radio station signed on every morning with 3 hours of classical music called "The Morning Concert", and "Appalachian Spring" was the opening theme music, so it's that rare classical piece that's burned into my brain.

First of all, Copland worked a 200+ year old hymn into Appalachian Spring called "Simple Gifts".  I've sung that in church (bet Geoff has, too).  I was tuned into MSNBC & Olberman inroduced it as composed by John Williams, and after he called it "a John Williams arrangement of an old Quaker hymn, clearly inspired by Aaron Copland."  I think that about covers it.
the principal turned on the big video screen at our meeting in the middle of Warren's invocation, many teachers booed!  Did he say much?  Also, yes, I've done the simple gifts song, as Lord of the Dance, and am challenging my students to make up a rhyme/rap about science based on the tune:
http://www.dulcimers.com/tunes/simplegifts.mid
Title: Re: President-elect Barack Obama
Post by: mshray on January 20, 2009, 12:33:39 PM
I should add that I was deeply moved by the quartet's performance.  Obviosly no accident that it comprised 3 men and a woman, a Jew, a Latina, an African-American & a Chinese-American (born in France no less).
Title: Re: President-elect Barack Obama
Post by: Tinka Cat on January 20, 2009, 02:35:08 PM
time to close this thread?  :)
Title: Re: President-elect Barack Obama
Post by: RGMike on January 20, 2009, 03:05:22 PM
the principal turned on the big video screen at our meeting in the middle of Warren's invocation, many teachers booed!  Did he say much? 

here's a link to the complete text:

http://www.clipsandcomment.com/2009/01/20/text-pastor-rick-warren-inauguration-invocation-january-20-2009/