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« Reply #105 on: March 20, 2006, 11:57:59 AM »
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« Reply #106 on: April 05, 2006, 11:02:17 AM »
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« Reply #107 on: April 18, 2006, 01:23:29 PM »
This is scary, but you must read it. - Mark

DESCENT INTO ANGER AND DESPAIR

By James Carroll - Boston Globe  |  April 17, 2006

Last week, the rattling of sabers filled the air. Various published reports, most notably one from Seymour M. Hersh in The New Yorker, indicated that Washington is removing swords from scabbards and heightening the threat aimed at Iran, which refuses to suspend its nuclear project. It may be that such reports, based on alarming insider accounts of planning and military exercises, are themselves part of Washington's strategy of coercive diplomacy. But who can trust the Bush administration to play games of feint and intimidation without unleashing forces it cannot control, stumbling again into disastrous confrontation?

An Iranian official dismissed the talk of imminent US military action as mere psychological warfare, but then he made a telling observation. Instead of attributing the escalations of threat to strategic impulses, the official labeled them a manifestation of ''Americans' anger and despair."

The phrase leapt out of the news report, demanding to be taken seriously. I hadn't considered it before, but anger and despair so precisely define the broad American mood that those emotions may be the only things that President Bush and his circle have in common with the surrounding legions of his antagonists. We are in anger and despair because every nightmare of which we were warned has come to pass. Bush's team is in anger and despair because their grand and -- to them -- selfless ambitions have been thwarted at every turn. Indeed, anger and despair can seem universally inevitable responses to what America has done and what it faces now.

While the anger and despair of those on the margins of power only increase the experience of marginal powerlessness, the anger and despair of those who continue to shape national policy can be truly dangerous if such policy owes more to these emotions than to reasoned realism. Is such affective disarray subliminally shaping the direction of US policy? That seems an impudent question. Yet all at once, like an out-of-focus lens snapping into clarity, it makes sense of what is happening. With the US military already stressed to an extreme in Iraq by challenges from a mainly Sunni insurgency, why in the world would Washington risk inflaming the Shi'ite population against us by wildly threatening Iran?

But such a thing happened before. It was the Bush administration's anger and despair at its inability to capture Osama bin Laden that fueled the patent irrationality of the move against Saddam Hussein. The attack on Iraq three years ago was, at bottom, a blind act of rage at the way Al Qaeda and its leaders had eluded us in Afghanistan; a blindness that showed itself at once in the inadequacy of US war planning. Now, with Iran, nuclear weapons are at issue. And yet look at the self-defeating irrationality of the Bush team's maneuvering. How do we hope to pressure Tehran into abandoning its nuclear project? Why, by making our threat explicitly nuclear.

Seymour Hersh, citing a ''former official," reported that US warplanes near Iran ''have been flying simulated nuclear-weapons delivery missions -- rapid ascending maneuvers known as 'over the shoulder' bombing -- since last summer." Such an exercise puts on display an American readiness to use tactical nuclear weapons against Iranian nuclear facilities. Whether the maneuvers have actually been carried out or not, even authoritative reports of them represent an extraordinarily irresponsible brandishing of the heretofore unthinkable weapon: To keep you from getting nukes, we will nuke you.

As if that were not irrational enough, the Bush administration chose this month, in the thick of its nuclear standoff with Tehran, to reveal plans for a new nuclear weapons manufacturing complex of its own -- a major escalation of US nuclear capacity. This represents a movement away from merely maintaining our thousands of warheads to replacing them. The promise of new bombs to come, including the so-called bunker-buster under development, may be the final nail in the coffin of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, which binds Washington to work for the elimination of nukes, not their enhancement.

Set the cauldron of Iraq to boiling even hotter by daring Iran to join in against us. Justify Iran's impulse to obtain nuclear capacity by using our own nuclear capacity as a thermo-prod. How self-defeating can our actions get?

Surely, something besides intelligent strategic theory is at work here. Yes. These are the policies of deeply frustrated, angry, and psychologically wounded people. Those of us who oppose them will yield to our own versions of anger and despair at our peril, and the world's. Fierce but reasoned opposition is more to the point than ever.
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« Reply #108 on: April 18, 2006, 05:12:00 PM »
Now consider that same article in light of the growing conspiracy theories that suggest our government actively enabled the 9/11 attacks to provide an excuse to invade Iraq, and things look all the more devastating.
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« Reply #109 on: April 19, 2006, 09:13:56 AM »
Oh good, McClellan's gone.  I don't expect that the new press sec will be any more truthful, but s/he might be a little less nefarious.  Scottie lacked both class and integrity, in direct contradiction to what W said this morning, and there seems nowhere to go but up in that role, short of a directly Orwellian scenario.  Hey, maybe they'll just end press briefings altogether, since both sides knew full well they've been a dog and pony show for the past five years.
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« Reply #110 on: April 19, 2006, 09:16:22 AM »
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Oh good, McClellan's gone.  


So now he can end his arranged marriage and go back to being gay.
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« Reply #111 on: May 09, 2006, 08:23:37 AM »
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060508/pl_nm/bush_poll_dc_1

Bush drops another 3% in approval, he is now lower than any president has ever been, as recorded by this poll.  And yes that includes Nixon in '74.
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« Reply #112 on: May 10, 2006, 02:07:00 PM »
This is too funny to be true, but it is, and I won't even try to append a joke.  Your first thoughts are sure to mirror my own.  From the front page of today's Chron:


Bush gets lecture from Iran's leader:  18-page letter urges U.S. to forsake secular democracy and turn more toward religion.
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« Reply #113 on: May 10, 2006, 03:10:47 PM »
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This is too funny to be true, but it is, and I won't even try to append a joke.  Your first thoughts are sure to mirror my own.  From the front page of today's Chron:


Bush gets lecture from Iran's leader:  18-page letter urges U.S. to forsake secular democracy and turn more toward religion.


I assume your first thoughts were something along the lines of:

MORE towards religion? Forsake secular democracy? This guy must not read the papers.  I guess we all have differing definitions of "secular" but, yikes! (However, being as this came from the leader of a country GW is known to harbor animosity towards, safe to say he probably won't pay it any heed.)

And:

Eighteen pages? God, someone get that man an editor.
Let's get right to it.

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« Reply #114 on: May 10, 2006, 03:49:05 PM »
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This guy must not read the papers.


yep, that's pretty much it.  I want to see Asmussen on Friday:  

Bush sends 18-page reply to Ahmadinejad:  
God has personally asked me not to make it too obvious on the religion thing.  But as far as the democracy thing goes, please see attached PowerPoint from Diebold.  May be of some use to you.
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« Reply #115 on: May 10, 2006, 09:13:46 PM »
In lieu of Assmussen, here's some Tom Tomorrow:

http://www.workingforchange.com/comic.cfm?itemid=20771
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« Reply #116 on: May 11, 2006, 07:42:36 AM »
CW Nevius in his sfgate.com blog, on Mary Cheney's new book:

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgate/detail?blogid=18&entry_id=5088
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« Reply #117 on: May 15, 2006, 11:26:18 AM »
This came from TruthOut.com, but I haven't seen the mainstream media pick up on it yet.  Hopefully this actually plays out.  If not, consider it a heatlhy dose of wishful thinking...

Karl Rove Indicted on Charges of Perjury, Lying to Investigators

Saturday 13 May 2006

Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald spent more than half a day Friday at the offices of Patton Boggs, the law firm representing Karl Rove.

During the course of that meeting, Fitzgerald served attorneys for former Deputy White House Chief of Staff Karl Rove with an indictment charging the embattled White House official with perjury and lying to investigators related to his role in the CIA leak case, and instructed one of the attorneys to tell Rove that he has 24 business hours to get his affairs in order, high level sources with direct knowledge of the meeting said Saturday morning.

Robert Luskin, Rove's attorney, did not return a call for comment. Sources said Fitzgerald was in Washington, DC, Friday and met with Luskin for about 15 hours to go over the charges against Rove, which include perjury and lying to investigators about how and when Rove discovered that Valerie Plame Wilson was a covert CIA operative and whether he shared that information with reporters, sources with direct knowledge of the meeting said.

It was still unknown Saturday whether Fitzgerald charged Rove with a more serious obstruction of justice charge. Sources close to the case said Friday that it appeared very likely that an obstruction charge against Rove would be included with charges of perjury and lying to investigators.

An announcement by Fitzgerald is expected to come this week, sources close to the case said. However, the day and time is unknown. Randall Samborn, a spokesman for the special prosecutor was unavailable for comment. In the past, Samborn said he could not comment on the case.

The grand jury hearing evidence in the Plame Wilson case met Friday on other matters while Fitzgerald spent the entire day at Luskin's office. The meeting was a closely guarded secret and seems to have taken place without the knowledge of the media.

As TruthOut reported Friday evening, Rove told President Bush and Chief of Staff Joshua Bolten, as well as a few other high level administration officials, that he will be indicted in the CIA leak case and will immediately resign his White House job when the special counsel publicly announces the charges against him, according to sources.

Details of Rove's discussions with the president and Bolten have spread through the corridors of the White House, where low-level staffers and senior officials were trying to determine how the indictment would impact an administration that has been mired in a number of high-profile political scandals for nearly a year, said a half-dozen White House aides and two senior officials who work at the Republican National Committee.

Speaking on condition of anonymity Friday night, sourcesconfirmedRove's indictment was imminent. These individuals requested anonymity saying they were not authorized to speak publicly about Rove's situation. A spokesman in the White House press office said they would not comment on "wildly speculative rumors."

Rove's announcement to President Bush and Bolten comes more than a month after he alerted the new chief of staff to a meeting his attorneyhad with Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald in which Fitzgerald told Luskinthat his case against Rove would soon be coming to a close and that he was leaning toward charging Rove with perjury, obstruction of justice and lying to investigators, according to sources close to the investigation.

A few weeks after he spoke with Fitzgerald, Luskin arranged for Rove toreturn to the grand jury for a fifth time to testify in hopes of fending off an indictment related to Rove's role in the CIA leak, sources said.

That meeting was followed almost immediately by an announcement by newly-appointed White House Chief of Staff Joshua Bolten of changes inthe responsibilities of some White House officials, including Rove, who was stripped of his policy duties and would no longer hold the title of Deputy White House chief of staff.

The White House said Rove would focus on the November elections and his change in status in no way reflected his fifth appearance before the grand jury or the possibility of an indictment.

But since Rove testified two weeks ago, the White House has been coordinating a response to what is sure to be the biggest political scandal it has faced thus far: the loss of a key political operative who has been instrumental in shaping White House policy on a wide range of domestic issues.

Rove testified that he first found out about Plame Wilson from reading anewspaper report in July 2003 and only after the story was published did he share damaging information about her CIA status with other reporters.

However, evidence has surfaced during the course of the two-year-old investigation that shows Rove spoke with at least two reporters about Plame Wilson prior to the publication of the column.

The explanation Rove provided to the grand jury - that he was dealing with more urgent White House matters and therefore forgot - has notconvinced Fitzgerald that Rove has been entirely truthful in his testimony and resulted in the indictment.
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« Reply #118 on: May 17, 2006, 02:55:49 PM »
a "heartless" attack ad (being run by a Repugnican, of course):

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgate/detail?blogid=14&entry_id=5264
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« Reply #119 on: May 24, 2006, 05:19:42 PM »
http://www.defenddelay.com/

can this be for real?  Using Colbert as a spokesman?
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