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Re: Lost in Translation
« Reply #1 on: July 06, 2005, 09:39:19 AM »
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« Reply #2 on: July 06, 2005, 11:28:41 AM »
I have several DVD's like that which I got in China.  Jay & Silent Bob Strike Back is a particularly good one.

I got a DVD of The Incredibles from CHina, but it was clearly filmed with a hand-held video camera (a la that famous Seinfeld episode) in France. It doesn't have the re-translation back into English, but in the opening scene, which has the faux newsreel interviews of the supers, Mr. Incredible is labeled 'Mssr. Incroyable".  And then about 5 minutes in you can clearly see the silhouette of someone walking right in front of the camera holder.
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« Reply #3 on: July 06, 2005, 11:42:02 AM »
My favorite mistranslation: I was watching an anime called "Bubblegum Crisis," and the subtitles converted the word "extraordinary" to -- "supermundane."

When I write a fiction novel about the travails of a rock critic (which I actually intend to do), Supermundane will be the name of one of the local bands.  Along with Bubbleglum, and the Beckys, the latter of whom figure heavily into the plot.
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« Reply #4 on: July 06, 2005, 11:58:07 AM »
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When I write a fiction novel about the travails of a rock critic

Cool! I'll adapt it for the screen. Will it have a car chase & a montage scene with upbeat music where the rock critic and/or The Beckys try on clothes at a fancy dept store? 'Cause I can just add those for the film.

But, if they're already there? So much easier....  :D

PS: I think your idea's great. And if I were to adapt it for the screen? No car chases or montages w/upbeat music trying on clothes at a fancy dept store. I promise. Hella nudity, though.
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« Reply #5 on: July 06, 2005, 12:02:16 PM »
"travails"?

you get free music and sex and drugs and stuff!
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« Reply #6 on: July 06, 2005, 08:21:27 PM »
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When I write a fiction novel about the travails of a rock critic

Cool! I'll adapt it for the screen. Will it have a car chase & a montage scene with upbeat music where the rock critic and/or The Beckys try on clothes at a fancy dept store? 'Cause I can just add those for the film.

But, if they're already there? So much easier....  :D

PS: I think your idea's great. And if I were to adapt it for the screen? No car chases or montages w/upbeat music trying on clothes at a fancy dept store. I promise. Hella nudity, though.


Spoiler For A Nonexistent Book And Film:

The Beckys are a media put-on.  Modeled after the Donnas but more prefab, the Beckys are a punk construct who show up in Page Six-like gossip columns -- but, in the spirit of naked emperors, the band doesn't actually exist.  Columnists heard they were the Next Big Thing, so they report seeing them at various clubs & hotspots in order to stay employed, and everyone who's in on the joke HAS to stay in on the joke so they can keep their jobs and their prestige.

So we have these four fictional women -- Becky Dent, Becky Call, Becky Laureate, and Becky Quatro -- in a fictional punk band, and that they've never recorded a note doesn't keep them from becoming Next Big Thing in magazines like Blender.  My central character -- who I'm trying to keep from being too much like the High Fidelity guy, and not succeeding -- at first goes along with this, but realizes he can't, and so tries to find the most interesting way to expose the scam.  (I won't give away the climax, but explosives at CBGB's are involved.)

In the meantime, my central character goes through episodic situations of bad relationships, bad music, bad drugs, but finds enough good people and good music to stay in the game.

You guys see any potential in this?  Or does it seem hackneyed?  Either way, I'll be sure to write a car chase and an '80s montage sequence into it so you and I can collabo, Beej.
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like the Grassroots?
« Reply #7 on: July 06, 2005, 09:16:18 PM »
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When I write a fiction novel about the travails of a rock critic
Cool! I'll adapt it for the screen. Will it have a car chase & a montage scene with upbeat music where the rock critic and/or The Beckys try on clothes at a fancy dept store? 'Cause I can just add those for the film.

But, if they're already there? So much easier....  :D

PS: I think your idea's great. And if I were to adapt it for the screen? No car chases or montages w/upbeat music trying on clothes at a fancy dept store. I promise. Hella nudity, though.
Spoiler For A Nonexistent Book And Film:

The Beckys are a media put-on.  Modeled after the Donnas but more prefab, the Beckys are a punk construct who show up in Page Six-like gossip columns -- but, in the spirit of naked emperors, the band doesn't actually exist.  Columnists heard they were the Next Big Thing, so they report seeing them at various clubs & hotspots in order to stay employed, and everyone who's in on the joke HAS to stay in on the joke so they can keep their jobs and their prestige.

So we have these four fictional women -- Becky Dent, Becky Call, Becky Laureate, and Becky Quatro -- in a fictional punk band, and that they've never recorded a note doesn't keep them from becoming Next Big Thing in magazines like Blender.  My central character -- who I'm trying to keep from being too much like the High Fidelity guy, and not succeeding -- at first goes along with this, but realizes he can't, and so tries to find the most interesting way to expose the scam.  (I won't give away the climax, but explosives at CBGB's are involved.)

In the meantime, my central character goes through episodic situations of bad relationships, bad music, bad drugs, but finds enough good people and good music to stay in the game.

You guys see any potential in this?  Or does it seem hackneyed?  Either way, I'll be sure to write a car chase and an '80s montage sequence into it so you and I can collabo, Beej.

My memory says there really wasn't a Grassroots band until they were forced to tour, and a real band was formed.  Could the same hold true for the Becky's? :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
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Re: like the Grassroots?
« Reply #8 on: July 08, 2005, 12:39:33 PM »
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My memory says there really wasn't a Grassroots band until they were forced to tour, and a real band was formed.  Could the same hold true for the Becky's? :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

Actually, it went like this:

On "Where Were You When I Needed You," the Grass Roots' first hit, they were a studio band.  Rob Grill and company had a band called the 13th Floor.  When the 13th Floor Elevators hit with "You're Gonna Miss Me," they had to change their name; their label, Dunhill, suggested they could simply become the Grass Roots and have a head start on their career.  It worked fably.

There also wasn't a Shondells when "Hanky Panky" made #1; Tommy James had to build that band from scratch to tour as the original Shondells had long since disbanded.
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Re: like the Grassroots?
« Reply #9 on: July 08, 2005, 12:42:59 PM »
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My memory says there really wasn't a Grassroots band until they were forced to tour, and a real band was formed.  Could the same hold true for the Becky's? :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Actually, it went like this:

On "Where Were You When I Needed You," the Grass Roots' first hit, they were a studio band.  Rob Grill and company had a band called the 13th Floor.  When the 13th Floor Elevators hit with "You're Gonna Miss Me," they had to change their name; their label, Dunhill, suggested they could simply become the Grass Roots and have a head start on their career.  It worked fably.

There also wasn't a Shondells when "Hanky Panky" made #1; Tommy James had to build that band from scratch to tour as the original Shondells had long since disbanded.

The Grassroots had to form a touring band, and I remember reading in the Chronicle that at the Fillmore, they had picked up some guy from the Musician's union, and the image of this guy reading sheet music and wearing a suit on the stage of the Fillmore is etched in my mind, whether it happened or not!
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« Reply #10 on: July 08, 2005, 12:48:06 PM »
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You guys see any potential in this? Or does it seem hackneyed? Either way, I'll be sure to write a car chase and an '80s montage sequence into it so you and I can collabo, Beej.

I like the idea a lot. And, unfortunately, you can't be too hackneyed if you want to actually sell a script or a movie. Besides, as my old scriptwriting teachers used to say: There are only 10 plots in this universe. You're job is to tell one of the ten stories in a fresh way. And if you can't be fresh- you better have good characters...

(OK, they didn't say THAT exactly- I papraphrased)

Is it gonna be a period piece? Cuz there may not be a CBGBs to blow up anymore....

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