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« Reply #105 on: December 11, 2006, 10:09:03 PM »
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Hey guys - Apropos of nothing, does any of you remember a grapefruit-ish soda/mixer from some years ago with a name like 20/20 or 50/50 or something like that?  I vaguely recall it being a staple at my grandmother's house, but haven't seen it in years.  (And no, I'm not thinking of Mad Dog 20/20.)


Must be this:

http://www.beveragesdirect.com/detail-776-Canfields_5050_Soda_12_Pack.asp

I'd never heard of it, tho' I know of Fresca and Squirt.


Guldamn, that's it!  Thank you!  Musta been a regional thing, like Nehi and Swiss Creme Soda.  And one I recall from my initial days on Boston, OK Cola.
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« Reply #106 on: December 12, 2006, 09:48:39 AM »
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Hey guys - Apropos of nothing, does any of you remember a grapefruit-ish soda/mixer from some years ago with a name like 20/20 or 50/50 or something like that?  I vaguely recall it being a staple at my grandmother's house, but haven't seen it in years.  (And no, I'm not thinking of Mad Dog 20/20.)


Must be this:

http://www.beveragesdirect.com/detail-776-Canfields_5050_Soda_12_Pack.asp

I'd never heard of it, tho' I know of Fresca and Squirt.


Guldamn, that's it!  Thank you!  Musta been a regional thing, like Nehi and Swiss Creme Soda.  And one I recall from my initial days on Boston, OK Cola.


I remember Nehi (grape & orange) from when I was a kid in Sacto, so they must have been somewhat nationwide, at least for a time.

Anyone remember Delaware Punch?
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« Reply #107 on: December 12, 2006, 09:59:22 AM »
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Anyone remember Delaware Punch?


"Hey, how 'bout a nice Delaware Punch?"

oh, wait, wrong punch.
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« Reply #108 on: December 12, 2006, 12:19:46 PM »
Not to derail that convo, but wanted to send along the final Stylus Singles Jukebox of the year -- I'm immodestly enjoying my Keith Urban suggestion.

Never heard of Delaware Punch.  But if someone could hook me up with some Dixies chicken-flavored crackers, I'd be the happiest girl in the U. S. of A.
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« Reply #109 on: December 12, 2006, 12:24:36 PM »
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if someone could hook me up with some Dixies chicken-flavored crackers, I'd be the happiest girl in the U. S. of A.


Are they better than Nabisco Chicken-in-a-Biskit crackers?  Along that line, in the late '60s Nabisco made ham-flavored crackers called Hammies that were delightful with cheese.
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« Reply #110 on: December 12, 2006, 01:26:23 PM »
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if someone could hook me up with some Dixies chicken-flavored crackers, I'd be the happiest girl in the U. S. of A.


Are they better than Nabisco Chicken-in-a-Biskit crackers?  Along that line, in the late '60s Nabisco made ham-flavored crackers called Hammies that were delightful with cheese.


Quite similar -- and I remain a huge Chicken in a Biskit fan -- but they were shaped like drumsticks.  I haven't seen them since maybe 1980.

"Hammies," huh?  I can scarcely imagine.

Think I'll buy some Sociables on my way home, though.  Mmmm, MSG.
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« Reply #111 on: December 12, 2006, 01:39:47 PM »
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Quite similar -- and I remain a huge Chicken in a Biskit fan -- but they were shaped like drumsticks.  I haven't seen them since maybe 1980.

"Hammies," huh?  I can scarcely imagine.



CIAB crackers are great with chopped (chicken) liver. Oy!

Hammies were shaped like little hams. very smoky/salty (I'd wager there was no actual ham in 'em).  And lo:

http://www.rareads.com/scans/6414.jpg
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« Reply #112 on: December 12, 2006, 01:45:07 PM »
and here's an "80's food page" that mentions both Dixies and urth's fave, Delaware punch

http://www.inthe80s.com/food/d.shtml
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Art Garfunkel's Reading List
« Reply #113 on: January 11, 2007, 07:57:40 PM »
So my friend Dave* has started a blog this year called "40 Years Ago Today."  It is, as you might infer, ruminations about 1967, what was happening and how it helped get us to where we are.  But he also digresses into pop culture arcania, including this surprising discovery: Art Garfunkel painstakingly maintains a log of every book he's read:

http://www.artgarfunkel.com/library.html

Dave* makes an amusing observation:

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On a more cynical tack, I flip through the lists and hear Hannibal Lecter's voice: "Clarice, doesn't this random scattering of sites seem overdone to you? Doesn't it seem desperately random?" Don't most of us occasionally read two books on the same subject in a row? Apparently Art doesn't -- or, if we assume it's a lie, whoever wrote the list didn't think of that. Yet it would be a bizarre thing to lie about. The American public doesn't care if a celebrity, especially on the D-list, is well-read. So I'm going to assume he really had read all these great works. Good for him.


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Is it such brainpower that has been supporting his afro for the past forty years?


Check it out if it piques your interest:
http://40yearsagotoday.livejournal.com/

(My own reading list is kind of nonexistent and would be almost humiliaring to make public, fwiw.)
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Re: Art Garfunkel's Reading List
« Reply #114 on: January 11, 2007, 09:59:52 PM »
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So my friend Dave* has started a blog this year called "40 Years Ago Today."  It is, as you might infer, ruminations about 1967, what was happening and how it helped get us to where we are.  But he also digresses into pop culture arcania, including this surprising discovery: Art Garfunkel painstakingly maintains a log of every book he's read:

http://www.artgarfunkel.com/library.html

Dave* makes an amusing observation:

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On a more cynical tack, I flip through the lists and hear Hannibal Lecter's voice: "Clarice, doesn't this random scattering of sites seem overdone to you? Doesn't it seem desperately random?" Don't most of us occasionally read two books on the same subject in a row? Apparently Art doesn't -- or, if we assume it's a lie, whoever wrote the list didn't think of that. Yet it would be a bizarre thing to lie about. The American public doesn't care if a celebrity, especially on the D-list, is well-read. So I'm going to assume he really had read all these great works. Good for him.


And he concludes:

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Is it such brainpower that has been supporting his afro for the past forty years?


Check it out if it piques your interest:
http://40yearsagotoday.livejournal.com/

(My own reading list is kind of nonexistent and would be almost humiliaring to make public, fwiw.)


Haven't looked too closely at Dave*'s web site yet, but I just spent about 10 minutes poking around on Artie's. It's definitely not your run-of-the-mill musician's site. Yeah, he has the usual stuff (news, discography, press, guestbook, management contacts, etc.) but he's got that damn library, which (and I agree with Gaz and/or Dave*) is pretty imposing--if he in fact has read all those books (an amazing number of which are classics), he's read ONE HELL OF A LOT. But then again, he's wealthy, so he has time to read if he chooses.

But he's also got a few pages labelled "Walk Across America." And apparently, over the space of 12 years, in about 40 ro so small chunks, he walked all the way across the country, from New York to Washington. He started from his apartment in Manhattan, walked for a few days, stopped and flew home; then after a period of time, returned to where he'd left off and walked for a few more days. Remarkable. The guy is either a monk in folksinger's clothing or just a goof. Either way, I think that's kind of cool.

http://www.artgarfunkel.com/poems/america/walk.html
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Re: Art Garfunkel's Reading List
« Reply #115 on: January 11, 2007, 11:16:36 PM »
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So my friend Dave* has started a blog this year called "40 Years Ago Today."  It is, as you might infer, ruminations about 1967, what was happening and how it helped get us to where we are.  
Check it out if it piques your interest:
http://40yearsagotoday.livejournal.com/

This guy was born in 1973!
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33 1/3: That Time of the Season
« Reply #116 on: January 14, 2007, 05:09:34 PM »
Revisiting the below as 33 1/3 has put out another call for submissions.  I'm heeding more than before this helpful advice of theirs -- "Choice of album is important - we're here to sell some books, after all. We're more likely to accept a proposal on Odessey & Oracle than on Angels With Dirty Faces, as much as I love them both." -- and will be proposing something other than "Red Octopus."  Most likely "Headquarters," which has an interesting backstory and more saleability (there are a lot more Monkees fans in 2007 than Jefferson Starship fans, obvs).

Here are the specs.  Interested in any suggestions.

http://33third.blogspot.com/2007/01/time-of-season.html

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Hey gang,

I hope you all had lovely Thanksgivings.  I haven't read any threads since Wednesday, will catch up on things tomorrow while at work -- but for now, I need to solicit some quick opinions.

You guys are, I realized this afternoon, pretty much the target audience for the "33 1/3" series: rock fans with an intellectual and historical bent to go with the critical one.  I spent some of this weekend reading a volume of the series in its entirety -- Michaelangelo Matos's take on Prince's Sign 'O' the Times -- and was surprised to find that it wasn't the here's-what-it-was-like-in-the-studio kind of historical narrative I was expecting, but rather a more casual, dare I say glib, critical analysis of how the artist got to the point of deciding to make this album, what its songs sound like and why they work as they do, and a smattering of context (artists influenced and influenced by, relationships, social affairs and news impacting the scene/period).  And a lot more basic artist biography material than I'd expected -- a full chapter, a quarter of the book, in this case.

So I'm really really undecided about which book to propose -- and while I'm not expressly forbidden from proposing more than one or submitting two simultaneous proposals, my gut feeling tells me that to do so would be a bad, bad idea.  To add to the mix, I've added a third album I'd like to propose that I think could be interesting.

I've listed the albums and their pros and cons below.  Can you let me know which album you personally would be most interested in reading an entire book on, were you to do so?  I'd be grateful, as always.

Gaz

Jefferson Starship, Red Octopus

Pros: This is the album I'm personally, deep down, most passionate about; I have a very good chance at access to the band's biographer, Jeff Tamarkin (I've spoken with him before and he's read my JS reviews on the All Music Guide); talking about songs like "Miracles" and "There Will Be Love" let me really flap my wings in the grand-language games.

Cons: There's not a lot of mainstream interest in the band (their episode of "Behind the Music" was the series' worst-rated, I read once), hindering saleability; I can't be sure of having access to the band members themselves.

The Monkees, Headquarters

Pros: The Monkees have been a popular story for the mainstream; this is a very important and interesting point in their history, their reclaiming of their instruments; getting this would work marvelously in conjunction with a potential EMP Pop Conference presentation on the band.

Cons: No access to the band or any of the other participating parties; this isn't my favorite Monkees album (I prefer its followup, PAC&J Ltd.).

Terence Trent D'Arby, Introducing the Hardline According to TTD

Pros: More current; there's been fewer '80s than '60s/'70s books in the series so far; chance to wax effusive about every single track and explore his influences (Smokey, JB, Bobby W); probable access to the artist himself for interviews.

Cons: I'm not good with the technology of production (drum machines used, etc.), which is more central to TTD's work than the others; I have nothing in my portfolio to demonstrate my expertise on him; I don't know his history a fraction as well as the others.

Oy yo yo do I overthink these things . . .  Thanks again.
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« Reply #117 on: January 31, 2007, 02:49:59 PM »
Hey Gaz -- didya see this job description posted on Outsports for GLAAD:

http://www.outsports.com/outreach/2007/0131glaad.htm
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« Reply #118 on: January 31, 2007, 05:59:23 PM »
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Hey Gaz -- didya see this job description posted on Outsports for GLAAD:

http://www.outsports.com/outreach/2007/0131glaad.htm


NO!  And I'm delighted that you've told me about it - thanks!  (The Voice copy chief gig, she does not go so well.)
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Re: 33 1/3: That Time of the Season
« Reply #119 on: February 14, 2007, 09:43:01 PM »
OK, I turned in my proposal tonight.  I should have had someone edit it, but was too lacking in time.  Here are the specs; we'll see what happens in a month or two.

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“33 1/3” Series Proposal: The Monkees, Headquarters

Submitted February 14, 2007
By Joseph McCombs

It was 40 years ago in March that the Monkees began recording the most crucial album of their career. They’d already scored two No. 1 albums (the cleverly titled The Monkees and More of the Monkees) and two No. 1 singles (“Last Train to Clarksville” and “I’m a Believer”) in their short lifespan, yet they’d also become in some ways the most hated band in America. The Prefab Four were catching flak from the press, and more important, from fellow musicians, for not playing their own instruments on their records, for being “phonies” by some judges’ senses of cred.  Micky, Mike, Peter, and Davy had reached a crucial existential moment: They didn’t just want to be the stars in a show called The Monkees; they wanted to be the Monkees.

It was out of this rather unique quest for authenticity that the boys laid the tracks for Headquarters, the album that liberated them from Don Kirshner if not from prefabricated songcraft, the album that legitimized the band’s previous successes, the album that I wish to discuss in a forthcoming volume of the “33 1/3” series.

The Monkees have been biographed many times, but always in the most casual of ways. Few writers and critics have seen fit to take seriously their musical output (despite a half-dozen Top 10 hits and four No. 1 albums), and this book on their most important album can make great strides in correcting that.

Headquarters is not only the story of a band making an album, it’s the story of a band making a band. The lads had a very short amount of time to get onto the same musical page—in terms of aptitude as much as direction. Michael Nesmith was a gifted and prolific songwriter, and could more than hold his own on pedal steel; Peter Tork played bass, banjo, guitar, keyboards, and harpsichord with flavor but was maddeningly imprecise; Micky Dolenz, whose malleable, Top 40–friendly vocals were already the group’s strongest suit, gamely achieved competence on the drums and contributed the exuberantly chaotic “Randy Scouse Git” as his first songwriting credit; and Davy—well, he played the tambourine and sang as well as he needed to.

Over several weeks in March the boys accumulated and tracked a dozen songs (plus two well-received goof tracks) that were of their time, and more than competitive with their time. Upon its June 1967 release, the album shot straight to No. 1—a perch it lost the next week to Sgt. Pepper, but to its lasting credit, hung on at No. 2 for 11 weeks afterward. Hindsight tells us that the album is imperfect, but engaging: pleasant bite-size nuggets of garage pop with strong elements of what would a year or so later become known as “country rock,” and some faint hints of the then unnamed “sunshine pop” genre that would be explored months later on the boys’ less autonomous follow-up, Pisces, Aquarius, Capricorn & Jones Ltd. With such highlights as the clopping Nez opener “You Told Me,” Torkian peace missive “For Pete’s Sake,” and the semi-improvised romp “No Time,” Headquarters is an album well worth placement on the shelves of any fan of 1960s pop. And Headquarters, the book, will legitimize the album as well as the four men whose band name could finally be their own at the end of the day.

About myself: I’m a music journalist and aspirant historian with a particular bent toward the pop music of the late 1960s through mid 1970s. I learned to program selections on diner-top jukeboxes at age 3 (thank you, Captain & Tennille), discovered the Beatles at age 5 and immediately memorized “Penny Lane,” and took dual citizenship in the Jefferson Airplane and Monkees camps a few years later. Teenage years spent in part memorizing entire Monkees episodes (thank you, Nick at Nite rerun schedule) may not have prepared me to biograph one of their albums, but subsequent years of close, critical listening and employment in music criticism have. Since 2001 I’ve written album reviews, brief biographies, news, concert previews, and other short-form pieces for the All Music Guide, The Village Voice, and various music-related websites. My writings in recent years have included over 100 AMG reviews, hundreds of indie-artist reviews for musician-development website Starpolish.com, over 200 concert listings and several features for the Voice, and papers delivered at the past two Experience Music Project Pop Conferences. Last year, my (nearly) unhyperbolic presentation was “10 Reasons Why the Monkees Should Be in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame,” and the positive response to the paper I received from EMP attendees encouraged me to go forward with this proposal. I have a strong grasp of the Monkees’ history, a smart appreciation for the quality of their music and the role they played in evolving the country-rock and sunshine-pop genres, and an exceptional ability to express the history and the pluses and minuses of the album in terms that will engage Monkee fans, music historians, pop aficionados, and casual readers alike.



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Revisiting the below as 33 1/3 has put out another call for submissions.  I'm heeding more than before this helpful advice of theirs -- "Choice of album is important - we're here to sell some books, after all. We're more likely to accept a proposal on Odessey & Oracle than on Angels With Dirty Faces, as much as I love them both." -- and will be proposing something other than "Red Octopus."  Most likely "Headquarters," which has an interesting backstory and more saleability (there are a lot more Monkees fans in 2007 than Jefferson Starship fans, obvs).

Here are the specs.  Interested in any suggestions.

http://33third.blogspot.com/2007/01/time-of-season.html
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