Friday June 3 - presumably not 1967 (1970 instead)

[RGMike]

so -- 2 weeks in a row without a '90s set.  "I think we must be in heaven, man!"  It'll be a pleasant Marathon tomorrow.

[RGMike]

I gots to give props to any band who names themselves after a cat in a T. S. Eliot poem!

That's a great name etymology!  And a new one on me.

Being a T. S. Eliot devotee, I was aware of this pretty early, but many others found out when they made that insipid Broadway musical "Cats."

Andrew Lloyd Webber -- insipid? Say it isn't so! :wink:

[Beej]

I always liked David Letterman's version of Cats: Mid-night! And the kitties are sleeee-ping!

[RGMike]

Dave's  Yahoo messenger ID has the following tag after his logon: "anybody remember Pickettywich?"

So, can anyone here clue me in? I'm stumped. (Dave sez it was a national hit.)

Pickettywitch, "That Same Old Feeling" -- I remember it.  A medium-sized hit as I recall. Nice bit o'pop. lead singer Polly Brown later had "Up in a Puff of Smoke".

Consulted AMG after posting that--which sez they were another in the Foundations/Edison Lighthouse/Paper Lace canon. This peaked at #67 in 1970, which may explain why I don't remember it--at that point in my life, I was strictly a Top 40 kinda kid.

#67 is stetching it a bit, re: "a national hit". Maybe a regional fave in Michigan. Not huge where I was. She sounds a bit like Dionne Warwick, no?

Pickettywitch PM Post-mortem:

I realize now that I remembered the song from the competing version by the Fortunes (whose big hits were "You've Got Your Troubles" in 1965 and "Here Comes That Rainy-Day Feeling Again" in '71). It was their version that got NYC airplay. Both versions debuted in Billboard on the same day and the Fortunes got to #62 while Pickettywitch hit #67.  They essentially cancelled each other out.

[Anonymous]

(whew) I didn't botch the lyrics. But, to answer you question, Geoff: I ALWAYS have my tambourine, baby!

I'm not to keen on this "Celebrity Ball" song. I don't know why. I mean, the "celebrate, celebrate" part is nice- but overall? I don't care.

With the headphones on I heard some nice guitar work in behind the celebrate, celebrate.

Michael Allsrop = an underrated component of the 3DN sound.

(So underrated, in fact, that I've probably spelled his name wrong.)

[Gaz via Meadville, PA]

List of great tamborine players:
Davey Jones, the Monkees
Betty, the Archies
uh....

Jack Ashford!!!

(P.S.  The above was of course me too.  Thanks, Mshray, for the proxy.)

[Gaz via Meadville, PA]

I always wondered what and or who a Mungo Jerry was. Thanks, Geoff.

CG played one of their other UK hits, "Baby Jump" the other day and it was quite a rocker.

If by "rocker" you mean "painful embarrassment to not only rock music but the Mother Country," then sure.

I mean, really: "She's got beautiful teeth / A toothpaste ad-man's dream"?

[RGMike]

I always wondered what and or who a Mungo Jerry was. Thanks, Geoff.

CG played one of their other UK hits, "Baby Jump" the other day and it was quite a rocker.

If by "rocker" you mean "painful embarrassment to not only rock music but the Mother Country," then sure.

I mean, really: "She's got beautiful teeth / A toothpaste ad-man's dream"?

By "rocker" I meant, in comparison to "In the Summertime" -- I'd've never guessed in a million years that "Baby Jump" was Mungo Jerry.

[ggould]

Guessing he means does nothing exept sing...?

Meaning Rog likes to swing the mike around & get his drum majorette jones on.

Just watching a Mamas and Papas show on channel 9, and Mama Cass starts swinging the microphone ala Daltrey on Ed Sullivan in 1966!

[Gazoo]

Guessing he means does nothing exept sing...?

Meaning Rog likes to swing the mike around & get his drum majorette jones on.

Just watching a Mamas and Papas show on channel 9, and Mama Cass starts swinging the microphone ala Daltrey on Ed Sullivan in 1966!

Now *that* is footage I would love to own.

If the owners of those old TV properties had any future-looking sense, they would get into the line of selling "videos" (vintage performances on Sullivan, Shindig, et al) in the same way that iTunes singles are sold.  This will be especially potential-laden when the next generation of iPod-like players has video playback capacity with decent resolution on a small screen.

[RGMike]

Guessing he means does nothing exept sing...?

Meaning Rog likes to swing the mike around & get his drum majorette jones on.

Just watching a Mamas and Papas show on channel 9, and Mama Cass starts swinging the microphone ala Daltrey on Ed Sullivan in 1966!

Now *that* is footage I would love to own.

If the owners of those old TV properties had any future-looking sense, they would get into the line of selling "videos" (vintage performances on Sullivan, Shindig, et al) in the same way that iTunes singles are sold.  This will be especially potential-laden when the next generation of iPod-like players has video playback capacity with decent resolution on a small screen.

I don't doubt that such a thing will happen, but the question is whether a Mamas & Papas clip from 1966 will be considered worth selling (demographically speaking) as opposed to, say, a Cure clip from 1989.

I always thought VH-1 made a big mistake when it ditched its original concept ("MTV for Baby Boomers") and went after younger & younger demos. In a 500-channel digital universe, such a niche ought to exist.

[ggould]

the question is whether a Mamas & Papas clip from 1966 will be considered worth selling (demographically speaking) as opposed to, say, a Cure clip from 1989.

Hard to believe you'd put the Cure on a historical pedestal of equal stature to the Mamas and Papas!
 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

[RGMike]

the question is whether a Mamas & Papas clip from 1966 will be considered worth selling (demographically speaking) as opposed to, say, a Cure clip from 1989.

Hard to believe you'd put the Cure on a historical pedestal of equal stature to the Mamas and Papas!
 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

I didn't, I'm talking about craven business decisions based on demographics. I could as easily have said Huey Lewis or the Travelling Wilburys. And of course MTV didn't exist in the '60s.

[ggould]

the question is whether a Mamas & Papas clip from 1966 will be considered worth selling (demographically speaking) as opposed to, say, a Cure clip from 1989.

Hard to believe you'd put the Cure on a historical pedestal of equal stature to the Mamas and Papas! :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

I didn't, I'm talking about craven business decisions based on demographics. I could as easily have said Huey Lewis or the Travelling Wilburys. And of course MTV didn't exist in the '60s.

Well, the new iTunes version plays videos, and I think what you're saying is right, and hopefully will happen.  There was a great clip of the Mamas and Papas singing backup to Barry McGuire doing "Do You Believe in Magic?" last night.  They were so broke, Lou Adler got them a job singing backups.

[RGMike]

There was a great clip of the Mamas and Papas singing backup to Barry McGuire doing "Do You Believe in Magic?" last night.  They were so broke, Lou Adler got them a job singing backups.

Yikes!

Zal and Denny workin' for a penny
Tryin' to get a fish on the line
In a coffee house Sebastian sat
And after every number they'd pass the hat
McGuinn and McGuire just a-gettin' higher
In L.A., you know where that's at
And no one's gettin' fat except Mama Cass...