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Happy 200th Birthday Charles Darwin
« on: February 12, 2009, 09:40:50 AM »
On the 200th birthday of one of the most important scientists of all time, Americans continue to not get it:

http://www.gallup.com/poll/114544/Darwin-Birthday-Believe-Evolution.aspx

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Charles Darwin,   was born in Shrewsbury, England in 1809 -- the exact same day as Lincoln. After Darwin visited the Galapagos Islands, he cemented his ideas about evolution, but he didn't even want to tell his friends about them, much less publish them, because he knew they would be seen as anti-religious. He finally decided to publish a book as a way to support his children, and On the Origin of Species (1859) became a huge success. He said, "A scientific man ought to have no wishes, no affections -- a mere heart of stone."

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Re: Happy 200th Birthday Charles Darwin
« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2009, 09:43:05 AM »
And Lincoln, too, (which your blurb points out), but he deserves co-billing.

Not coincidentally, the following appeared in one of the Merc's online columns.  Note that Rome not only says evolution is fine, but they completely diss Intelligent Design.

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Over the last half-century, the Catholic Church's position on Charles Darwin and evolution has, well, evolved beyond its historic hostility over the seeming conflict with a literal reading of scripture. In 1950, Pope Pius XII described evolution as a valid scientific approach to the development of humans, and in 1996 John Paul II said it was "more than a hypothesis." Now those respectful nods have become an embrace. In the run-up to a Vatican conference next month marking the 150th anniversary of Darwin's "On the Origin of Species," Archbishop Gianfranco Ravasi, head of the Pontifical Council for Culture, declared evolution and the Christian faith compatible, saying, "In fact, what we mean by evolution is the world as created by God." Creationism, specifically in the form of "intelligent design," will rate a mention at the papal-backed conference, but only as a curiosity. "The committee agreed to consider ID as a phenomenon of an ideological and cultural nature, thus worthy of a historic examination, but certainly not to be discussed on scientific, philosophical or theological grounds," said Saverio Forestiero, a conference organizer and professor of zoology at the University of Rome.

Some related reading — an essay by Carl Safina arguing for the dismantling of the Darwin cult of personality: "Equating evolution with Charles Darwin ignores 150 years of discoveries, including most of what scientists understand about evolution. ... By propounding 'Darwinism,' even scientists and science writers perpetuate an impression that evolution is about one man, one book, one 'theory.' The ninth-century Buddhist master Lin Chi said, 'If you meet the Buddha on the road, kill him.' The point is that making a master teacher into a sacred fetish misses the essence of his teaching. So let us now kill Darwin."

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Re: Happy 200th Birthday Charles Darwin
« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2009, 09:46:12 AM »
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Re: Happy 200th Birthday Charles Darwin
« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2009, 12:34:28 PM »
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1878818,00.html

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Re: Happy 200th Birthday Charles Darwin
« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2009, 05:18:14 PM »
Wow, only 3 years older then Arizona Senator John McCain!

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Re: Happy 200th Birthday Charles Darwin
« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2009, 08:27:18 PM »
And Lincoln, too, (which your blurb points out), but he deserves co-billing.


And Obama agrees: saw his address at the Lincoln Day Dinner in Springfield -- great speech -- and he went out of his way to link the 2 men, saying that, as it is both their 200th birthdays, it's worth noting Lincoln's commitment to science and that we should re-elevate science to its rightful place. Rather smartly done (take *that*, fundies!) and I'm sure there's a clip of it on the YouTube.
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Re: Happy 200th Birthday Charles Darwin
« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2009, 09:01:28 PM »

Wow, only 3 years older then Arizona Senator John McCain!

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Re: Happy 200th Birthday Charles Darwin
« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2009, 10:22:20 PM »
And Lincoln, too, (which your blurb points out), but he deserves co-billing.


And Obama agrees: saw his address at the Lincoln Day Dinner in Springfield -- great speech -- and he went out of his way to link the 2 men, saying that, as it is both their 200th birthdays, it's worth noting Lincoln's commitment to science and that we should re-elevate science to its rightful place. Rather smartly done (take *that*, fundies!) and I'm sure there's a clip of it on the YouTube.
I'd like to see that.  As a science teacher, I'm glad to see an effort to reverse the demonization of science.
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Re: Happy 200th Birthday Charles Darwin
« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2009, 12:24:30 PM »
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Re: Happy 200th Birthday Charles Darwin
« Reply #10 on: February 13, 2009, 02:11:28 PM »
oh, those wacky Islamic Creationists:

http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/02/12/bad-day-for-darwin-haters/

that's intersting, but the author of that article still says "Darwin's theory of Evolution".  It would be really helpful if people stopped saying that! 

Darwin's theory is the theory of Natural Selection, the mechanism by which evolution takes place.  The idea that organisms evolve was not controversial among educated people a few generations before Charles, (c.f. his own grandfather, Erasmus Darwin), just as there was no controversy about apples falling from trees before Newton.  Like Newton with gravitation, Darwin should be remembered for finally providing a theory that explained HOW evolution works, and which has stood the test of time & much scientific probing.

The creationists of the world don't just disagree with Darwin & his "theory", they disagree with all of the scientific thought that preceeded him, and has come since.  We make their job that much easier if we allow them to say it was all just this one guy's idea.

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