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Re: The Prop 8 thread
« Reply #120 on: December 11, 2009, 08:56:52 AM »
Haven't watched the interview yet, but I hear tell that Rachel Maddow took Richard Cohen, the "ex-gay" therapist who claims to help gays become straight, to school in an interview on her show last night. Coverage here, with a link to the video. It's 17 minutes long but worth the time, from what I am told:

http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2009/12/09/maddow

I saw it; she really nailed him -- she's been doing phenomenal work this week on that story, as it relates to the "Kill the Gays" legislation in Uganda. Her coverage (she's pretty much the only MSM outlet on the story) has resulted in Rick warren and others distancing themselves from the Ugandans.
Rachel's just so awesome. I wondered why that Cohen dweeb was willing to be on her show, knowing how tough, smart, and unflappable she is.  I guess these people just want to be on TV.  I think MSNBC's coverage of The Family cult on C St is pretty valuable, and should be a bigger story elsewhere.  But where else?
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« Reply #121 on: January 02, 2010, 09:20:26 PM »
didn't know where else to put this, but I'm sitting here watching TV and in the middle of a Sharks game, of all places, there was a PSA telling kids not to say "that's so gay"! I was floored!
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« Reply #122 on: January 03, 2010, 10:13:53 AM »
didn't know where else to put this, but I'm sitting here watching TV and in the middle of a Sharks game, of all places, there was a PSA telling kids not to say "that's so gay"! I was floored!

very cool.  I think I'm gay for that PSA!
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Re: The Prop 8 thread
« Reply #123 on: January 06, 2010, 08:49:42 PM »
U.S. District Court Judge Vaughn Walker -- who will be overseeing a federal court challenge to Prop 8 starting this Monday (January 11) and the 9th Circuit are considering whether or not to open the court room to TV cameras. The court just announced that it is seeking public comment on the proposal to televise the trial -- and that all comments must be submitted to the court by a Friday deadline.  The fundies are gathering as many signatures as possible to close the proceedings.  I just signed a letter, asking Judge Walker to televise the Prop 8 trial. Anyone interested in likewise sending a letter to Judge Walker can do so in about 15 seconds through the link below.  Cutoff is 9:00 AM PST on Friday.

http://www.couragecampaign.org/TeleviseTheTrial
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Re: The Prop 8 thread
« Reply #124 on: January 06, 2010, 09:23:55 PM »
U.S. District Court Judge Vaughn Walker -- who will be overseeing a federal court challenge to Prop 8 starting this Monday (January 11) and the 9th Circuit are considering whether or not to open the court room to TV cameras. The court just announced that it is seeking public comment on the proposal to televise the trial -- and that all comments must be submitted to the court by a Friday deadline.  The fundies are gathering as many signatures as possible to close the proceedings.  I just signed a letter, asking Judge Walker to televise the Prop 8 trial. Anyone interested in likewise sending a letter to Judge Walker can do so in about 15 seconds through the link below.  Cutoff is 9:00 AM PST on Friday.

http://www.couragecampaign.org/TeleviseTheTrial

thanks, I signed it!

 i said something like televising the trial will remove the mystery of it all and make citizens more comfortable with the legal process in general, sort of like how seeing a well-performed Shakespeare play can tame the verses and whirligigs of Shakespearean English and show the average person that, "Hey, I get this, it's not so hard!"   :)

(well, I had to write something and didn't want to just repeat the boilerplate text provided by the web form!)  ;)
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Re: The Prop 8 thread
« Reply #125 on: January 06, 2010, 11:36:27 PM »

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Re: The Prop 8 thread
« Reply #126 on: January 07, 2010, 11:31:50 AM »
It will be shown on You Tube:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/01/06/BA121BEGI8.DTL&tsp=1

That was Judge Walker's preliminary ruling, but the final decision comes from the 9th Circuit as a body.  Anything can still happen.
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Re: The Prop 8 thread
« Reply #127 on: January 11, 2010, 01:59:25 PM »
from the Courage Campaign:

The good news: Judge Walker just announced the amazing final results on public comments: 138,542 in favor, 32 opposed. Congrats to the Courage Campaign and CREDO Action communities!

The bad news: Opponents of marriage equality filed an emergency appeal with the U.S. Supreme Court on Saturday, begging to hide the trial from the American public. And a few hours ago, the Supreme Court delayed their decision until Wednesday.

Prop 8 supporters and anti-equality organizations like the National Organization for Marriage have spent tens of millions of dollars on 30-second ads scaring the American people into thinking that same-sex marriage will destroy our country. And now, when federal judges want to open the courtrooms to America, Prop 8 supporters want to unplug the TV.  What are they hiding? And what are organizations like NOM and Focus on the Family willing to do and say to keep the American people from finding out the truth?

The Prop 8 trial starts today. That's why the Courage Campaign Institute is launching the "Prop 8 Trial Tracker" -- a web site that will hold right-wing organizations accountable for what they say every day of the Prop 8 trial.

http://www.couragecampaign.org/GetTheTruthOut

On the defensive, Prop 8 supporters are scared they will lose. Maggie Gallagher, President of NOM, has made Judge Vaughn Walker the immediate target of NOM's misinformation strategy, launching a baseless attack on the judge a few days ago: "The case will be a show trial in a kangaroo court. I don't say that lightly of any federal judge, but Judge Walker's extraordinary bias has already been flagrantly on display."  As the trial unfolds, we can expect NOM and their allies to continue to try and convince the public the court is biased. And our Prop 8 Trial Tracker will continue to monitor these misleading right-wing claims, in and outside the courtroom, and report the truth.
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Re: The Prop 8 thread
« Reply #128 on: January 12, 2010, 05:42:54 PM »

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Re: The Prop 8 thread
« Reply #129 on: January 12, 2010, 09:53:37 PM »
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Re: The Prop 8 thread
« Reply #130 on: January 12, 2010, 11:45:31 PM »
My comments on the matter:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOmTxt3g7Oc

that was great. well done!

Thanks! I was talking to a friend about the hooplah, and I got so irritated I started ranting.

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Re: The Prop 8 thread
« Reply #131 on: January 13, 2010, 11:16:27 AM »
My comments on the matter:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOmTxt3g7Oc

that was great. well done!

Thanks! I was talking to a friend about the hooplah, and I got so irritated I started ranting.

That really is inspired.  Awesome.
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Re: The Prop 8 thread
« Reply #132 on: January 13, 2010, 11:23:13 AM »
My comments on the matter:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOmTxt3g7Oc

that was great. well done!

Thanks! I was talking to a friend about the hooplah, and I got so irritated I started ranting.

That really is inspired.  Awesome.

it also serves to show just how whack Iverson can be.  I never saw that actual press conference he did.  If only the media covered important issues with as much gusto and resources as they cover athletes running at the mouth.
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Re: The Prop 8 thread
« Reply #133 on: January 13, 2010, 03:57:06 PM »
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Re: The Prop 8 thread
« Reply #134 on: January 13, 2010, 09:18:20 PM »
Supes rule 5-4 against televising the Prop 8 trial:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/01/13/BAOQ1BHPS3.DTL&tsp=1

Quote from: Breyer
the public had ample opportunity to comment, there was no evidence that witnesses would be harmed, and those outside the courthouse were losing an opportunity to view a trial of "great public interest."
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