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« Reply #855 on: January 18, 2012, 02:15:33 PM »
interesting article about Austin's KGSR -- they're sorta the KFOG of Austin, but traditionally included a lot of alt-country in the mix. Apparently the local flavor has been eliminated and some folks were pissed (tho' the ratings have increased):

http://www.austin360.com/music/changes-at-kgsr-sounding-good-to-more-listeners-933771.html

Isn't it ironic? The program director who is making the station more generic is named Edge. He did seem a little more upfront about the effect of his changes than those in charge of our local AAA.

I don't think anyone affiliated with KFOG has said one word publicly (including on FB) about the change to 10@10. It's as if they want to keep up the facade that AL is just pickin' the years she wants to pick and spinnin' the records she wants to spin.

On the other hand, when AL took over no one made any announcement saying AL was going to start busting out 5-8 songs per set.  We figured it out fairly quickly.  Many on FB weren't far behind.  But quite honestly, most people probably had no clue and still don't.

I just looked at the KGSR playlist.  OMG...I nearly vomited.  The article made it sound like he was just tweaking it a bit younger (i.e. some Muse here, Silversun Pickups there...and perhaps a *bit* less alt-country, because they were very heavy on that before.)  But noooooo....it seriously looks like a cross between a generic AAA and Alice now, only with Bob Schneider every two hours probably just to say they're still playing local music.  Andy Grammer?  Christina Perri?  Sara Paralysis?  Gavin DeGraw???   :'(  They completely ruined a good station for 25% more listeners.   ::)

Their live CDs are probably going to suck from now on, too.  Too bad.

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« Reply #856 on: January 21, 2012, 10:46:02 AM »
The Peak posed this question on FB: "Are there any songs or artists on The Peak that you're getting tired of hearing?" Pretty brave of them, I think. Keeping an eye on that one -- so far the answers include

"Adele. I love her voice, but she is way overplayed, even on The Peak"

"Definitely Mumford & Sons"

"The only one on The Peak that I am tired of is Coldplay. Everything else you play is freakin awesome." (this woman would make a good Foghead)

"I would live a very happy life if I never heard a Eurythmics song again" (that one kinda surprised me)

and someone mentioned "Time Spent in Los Angeles" by Dawes -- I'm not familiar with it. Anybody?
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« Reply #857 on: January 21, 2012, 11:01:18 AM »
The Peak posed this question on FB: "Are there any songs or artists on The Peak that you're getting tired of hearing?" Pretty brave of them, I think. Keeping an eye on that one -- so far the answers include

"Adele. I love her voice, but she is way overplayed, even on The Peak"

"Definitely Mumford & Sons"

"The only one on The Peak that I am tired of is Coldplay. Everything else you play is freakin awesome." (this woman would make a good Foghead)

"I would live a very happy life if I never heard a Eurythmics song again" (that one kinda surprised me)
and someone mentioned "Time Spent in Los Angeles" by Dawes -- I'm not familiar with it. Anybody?

An alt-country song that did decently on the AAA chart (Top 20, I think...perhaps Top 15) but KFOG never picked up up, except during new music Thursday.  I wish they would have.  It'll make an appearance on my Top 50 of 2011 live countdown. (coming soon :) )
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« Reply #858 on: January 21, 2012, 11:18:32 AM »
The Peak posed this question on FB: "Are there any songs or artists on The Peak that you're getting tired of hearing?" Pretty brave of them, I think. Keeping an eye on that one -- so far the answers include

"Adele. I love her voice, but she is way overplayed, even on The Peak"

"Definitely Mumford & Sons"

"The only one on The Peak that I am tired of is Coldplay. Everything else you play is freakin awesome." (this woman would make a good Foghead)

"I would live a very happy life if I never heard a Eurythmics song again" (that one kinda surprised me)
and someone mentioned "Time Spent in Los Angeles" by Dawes -- I'm not familiar with it. Anybody?

An alt-country song that did decently on the AAA chart (Top 20, I think...perhaps Top 15) but KFOG never picked up up, except during new music Thursday.  I wish they would have.  It'll make an appearance on my Top 50 of 2011 live countdown. (coming soon :) )

a few more:

"Oh, and playing right NOW for the ten millionth time...The Black Keys, "I'm A Lonely Boy"!!!"

"Well, there's that one song by Adele. And then there's that other song by...umm...what's her name? Oh, yeah... Adele. I think that's it. Oh, no, wait! There's that song by Adele, too."

"Both foster the people songs. And John mellencamp. I feel like every 10@10 which covers a year of his career has a John mellencamp song. He's a hack."

So... JCM is the INXS of the Peak, then.  ;)
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« Reply #859 on: January 21, 2012, 11:27:10 AM »
"Well, there's that one song by Adele. And then there's that other song by...umm...what's her name? Oh, yeah... Adele. I think that's it. Oh, no, wait! There's that song by Adele, too."

Lol.

I guess we should be lucky.  I'd rather have excessive INXS > JCM.

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« Reply #860 on: January 21, 2012, 12:15:10 PM »
An alt-country song that did decently on the AAA chart (Top 20, I think...perhaps Top 15) but KFOG never picked up up, except during new music Thursday.  I wish they would have.  It'll make an appearance on my Top 50 of 2011 live countdown. (coming soon :) )

Found it on YouTube -- quite nice, and apparently in addition to a Wilco connection they've been working with Robbie Robertson.
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« Reply #861 on: January 28, 2012, 12:20:17 PM »
I totally get Kiss-FM playing white-soul-ish New Wave stuff like Spandau or Culture Club, but I got in the car and turned them on and they were playing Matthew Wilder's "BreaK My Stride". Wha?
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« Reply #862 on: January 29, 2012, 06:44:35 PM »
For some reason they were playing Live 105 at my gym this afterenoon. I hadn't listened to them for an extended period in a long time. And damn they're a worthless radio station.  Christ on a cracker -- they've still got "Little Lion Man" in rotation. Virtually everything I heard in 2 hours was a (today's) KFOG staple, except for maybe 2 songs, one of which was "We Are Young" by Fun (presumably new?).  But it was Green Day and Cake and Foster the People and Black Keys and Florence and RHCPs and Coldplay and AL's beloved Foos.  It's like KFOG without the '80s gold (in other words KFOG without the handful of things that make KFOG bearable).  The oldest thing I heard was Beck's "Loser". Oh and there were the ads for AdamAndEve.com -- ick.
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« Reply #863 on: January 30, 2012, 09:02:39 AM »
Stew, the guy who led the band The Negro Problem, will be on Fresh Air today:
http://www.npr.org/2012/01/30/144318767/stew-making-it-after-a-tough-breakup

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« Reply #864 on: January 30, 2012, 11:38:06 AM »
For some reason they were playing Live 105 at my gym this afterenoon. I hadn't listened to them for an extended period in a long time. And damn they're a worthless radio station.  Christ on a cracker -- they've still got "Little Lion Man" in rotation. Virtually everything I heard in 2 hours was a (today's) KFOG staple, except for maybe 2 songs, one of which was "We Are Young" by Fun (presumably new?).  But it was Green Day and Cake and Foster the People and Black Keys and Florence and RHCPs and Coldplay and AL's beloved Foos.  It's like KFOG without the '80s gold (in other words KFOG without the handful of things that make KFOG bearable).  The oldest thing I heard was Beck's "Loser". Oh and there were the ads for AdamAndEve.com -- ick.

Yes, that station is a disaster and has been since CBS took over.  It's as much as a disaster as Alice and Star (Mix isn't quite as bad yet, but it's coming up close.)

Live 105's current Top 50:

lw TW Artist Title TW lw Move Aud
4 1  GOTYE  Somebody That I Used To Know 64 50 14 0.4833
1 2 COLDPLAY  Paradise 62 64 -2 0.4677
2 3 BLACK KEYS  Lonely Boy 61 63 -2 0.4802
6 4  M83  Midnight City 54 35 19 0.4281
11 5  NEON TREES  Animal 49 32 17 0.3871
12 6  FOO FIGHTERS  These Days 33 31 2 0.2728
5 7 GROUPLOVE  Tongue Tied 31 46 -15 0.2383
7 8 NAKED AND FAMOUS  Young Blood 31 35 -4 0.2439
8 9 YOUNG THE GIANT  Cough Syrup 31 35 -4 0.2545
35 10  BLACK KEYS  Gold On The Ceiling 30 14 16 0.2259
3 11 FOSTER THE PEOPLE  Don't Stop (Color On The Walls 30 53 -23 0.2344
37 12  FUN.  We Are Young f/Janelle Monae 30 13 17 0.2259
9 13 SILVERSUN PICKUPS  Panic Switch 27 33 -6 0.2081
75 14  OF MONSTERS AND MEN  Little Talks 26 1 25 0.1775
34 15  FLORENCE + THE MACHINE  Shake It Out 25 15 10 0.1903
17 16  WIZ KHALIFA/SNOOP DOGG  Young, Wild & Free f/B. Mars 25 23 2 0.1762
26 17  FOO FIGHTERS  Rope 24 20 4 0.1929
29 18  AVICII  Levels (ID) 23 19 4 0.158
21 19  DIRTY HEADS  Lay Me Down f/Rome 23 21 2 0.1816
28 20  PHOENIX  1901 23 20 3 0.1728
24 21  RED HOT CHILI PEPPERS  Adventures Of Rain Dance... 23 21 2 0.1855
32 22  BLACK KEYS  Tighten Up 22 18 4 0.185
22 23 FLORENCE + THE MACHINE  Dog Days Are Over 21 21 0 0.1632
23 24 MUMFORD & SONS  Little Lion Man 21 21 0 0.1704
27 25  MUMFORD & SONS  The Cave 21 20 1 0.1602
25 26 CAGE THE ELEPHANT  Shake Me Down 20 20 0 0.1351
10 27 FOSTER THE PEOPLE  Pumped Up Kicks 20 32 -12 0.1596
20 28 PHOENIX  Lisztomania 20 22 -2 0.1668
15 29 BLINK 182  After Midnight 19 25 -6 0.1605
14 30 SKRILLEX  Scary Monsters And Nice ... 19 26 -7 0.1431
31 31 BLACK KEYS  Howlin' For You 18 18 0 0.149
36 32  EXAMPLE  Changed The Way You Kiss Me 15 13 2 0.0821
0 33  NAKED AND FAMOUS  Punching In A Dream 14 0 14 0.1068
0 34  RISE AGAINST  Satellite 14 0 14 0.1027
13 35 ALL-AMERICAN REJECTS  Beekeeper's Daughter 13 28 -15 0.086
33 36 SHINS  Simple Song 12 16 -4 0.0477
44 37  FRANZ FERDINAND  No You Girls 8 5 3 0.0554
42 38  LINKIN PARK  New Divide 8 7 1 0.0554
38 39 NEON TREES  Everybody Talks 8 12 -4 0.0302
18 40 RED HOT CHILI PEPPERS  Monarchy Of Roses 8 23 -15 0.0586
19 41 BUSH  The Sound Of Winter 7 22 -15 0.0553
0 42  COLDPLAY  Charlie Brown 7 0 7 0.051
39 43 LANA DEL REY  Video Games 7 10 -3 0.0091
41 44 LINKIN PARK  Waiting For The End 7 8 -1 0.0571
30 45 FOO FIGHTERS  Walk 6 19 -13 0.0444
40 46 SKRILLEX  Bangarang 6 10 -4 0.0242
46 47  THIRTY SECONDS TO MARS  This Is War 6 4 2 0.053
47 48  MUSE  Resistance 5 3 2 0.021
43 49 MUSE  Undisclosed Desires 5 7 -2 0.0431
45 50 WEEZER  I Want To 5 5 0 0.0295

Listening to them makes one appreciate KFOG more...pre-or-post DC (depending on one's prerogative.)  The top three songs have over 60 spins apiece, the next two are ~50.  Compare that to KFOG's top 5, which have around 33-37 (and even that's gone up.  It used to be right at 30.)  Then, #s six through twelve all have 30+ spins. 

That block of songs from #19-28 is particularly troublesome, considering the newest ones are Raindance Maggie or Pumped Up Kicks but they still have at least 20 spins.  Everything else is at least one year old.  Heck, some of those are two years old.    ::)  Such as "1901," "Lisztomania"...and why the heck are they still playing both of those?  "Little Lion Man" & "The Cave" aren't far behind, and their newer song "Roll Away Your Stone" is nowhere to be found.  On a related note, "Panic Switch," which is also about two years old, is still at #13.  They've had a number of singles since them, which Live 105 played for a few weeks and then dropped (including "Broken Bottles," which is still charting on alternative) all while holding onto "Panic Switch."

There are a few bright spots, like seeing Gotye at #1.  It's probably going to stay on their playlist for the next 14 years, but at least 64 spins are being used up by a band that doesn't have any other songs that sound exactly like it already on their playlist yet.  Ditto with M83 at #4.  It's also nice to see Avicii, Skrillex and Example.  And The Naked And Famous, too although it's annoying that they're only now playing "Punching in a Dream," which is about to go recurrent, while "Young Blood" is a year old and still in ~30ish rotation.

The main problem is...it's becoming so difficult to sit through all the rest of the nonsense to hear something worth hearing.  This really used to be a good station.  The only times it's good are their new music program, Soundcheck on Sun. nites from 7-10 (but it's the same time as all the other good programs on the other stations), and their electro program, Subsonic, on Saturday nights/Sunday mornings from 12-3.  I'm usually not up then.  I might as well put in a CD...or better yet, download the MP3.  (Oh, and since it took Live 105 so long, I'm lobbying DC to add "Punching in a Dream" so I won't have to listen to Live 105 to hear it.  Bwahaha.)

What isn't shown is their recurrents, which are even more intolerable.  They're still playing the most overplayed RedHotStoneTempleFooNirvanaRiseAgainstthesoundgardenSublimeFighterPilotNirvanaCakeMachine hits from the past 20 years, almost all of which from their respective artists, and in some cases from different artists too, sound the same.

Alice is exactly like this too, just replace RedHotStoneTempleFooNirvanaRiseAgainstthesoundgardenSublimeFighterPilotNirvanaCakeMachine with KatyJasonLadyGooGooGagaLifehouseKellyScriptJohnTrainClarksonPerryGreenPinkDayMayerMrazDolls.

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« Reply #865 on: January 30, 2012, 12:05:44 PM »
For some reason they were playing Live 105 at my gym this afterenoon. I hadn't listened to them for an extended period in a long time. And damn they're a worthless radio station.  Christ on a cracker -- they've still got "Little Lion Man" in rotation. Virtually everything I heard in 2 hours was a (today's) KFOG staple, except for maybe 2 songs, one of which was "We Are Young" by Fun (presumably new?).  But it was Green Day and Cake and Foster the People and Black Keys and Florence and RHCPs and Coldplay and AL's beloved Foos.  It's like KFOG without the '80s gold (in other words KFOG without the handful of things that make KFOG bearable).  The oldest thing I heard was Beck's "Loser". Oh and there were the ads for AdamAndEve.com -- ick.

Yes, that station is a disaster and has been since CBS took over.  It's as much as a disaster as Alice and Star (Mix isn't quite as bad yet, but it's coming up close.)

Live 105's current Top 50:

lw TW Artist Title TW lw Move Aud
4 1  GOTYE  Somebody That I Used To Know 64 50 14 0.4833
1 2 COLDPLAY  Paradise 62 64 -2 0.4677
2 3 BLACK KEYS  Lonely Boy 61 63 -2 0.4802
6 4  M83  Midnight City 54 35 19 0.4281
11 5  NEON TREES  Animal 49 32 17 0.3871
12 6  FOO FIGHTERS  These Days 33 31 2 0.2728
5 7 GROUPLOVE  Tongue Tied 31 46 -15 0.2383
7 8 NAKED AND FAMOUS  Young Blood 31 35 -4 0.2439
8 9 YOUNG THE GIANT  Cough Syrup 31 35 -4 0.2545
35 10  BLACK KEYS  Gold On The Ceiling 30 14 16 0.2259
3 11 FOSTER THE PEOPLE  Don't Stop (Color On The Walls 30 53 -23 0.2344
37 12  FUN.  We Are Young f/Janelle Monae 30 13 17 0.2259
9 13 SILVERSUN PICKUPS  Panic Switch 27 33 -6 0.2081
75 14  OF MONSTERS AND MEN  Little Talks 26 1 25 0.1775
34 15  FLORENCE + THE MACHINE  Shake It Out 25 15 10 0.1903
17 16  WIZ KHALIFA/SNOOP DOGG  Young, Wild & Free f/B. Mars 25 23 2 0.1762
26 17  FOO FIGHTERS  Rope 24 20 4 0.1929
29 18  AVICII  Levels (ID) 23 19 4 0.158
21 19  DIRTY HEADS  Lay Me Down f/Rome 23 21 2 0.1816
28 20  PHOENIX  1901 23 20 3 0.1728
24 21  RED HOT CHILI PEPPERS  Adventures Of Rain Dance... 23 21 2 0.1855
32 22  BLACK KEYS  Tighten Up 22 18 4 0.185
22 23 FLORENCE + THE MACHINE  Dog Days Are Over 21 21 0 0.1632
23 24 MUMFORD & SONS  Little Lion Man 21 21 0 0.1704
27 25  MUMFORD & SONS  The Cave 21 20 1 0.1602
25 26 CAGE THE ELEPHANT  Shake Me Down 20 20 0 0.1351
10 27 FOSTER THE PEOPLE  Pumped Up Kicks 20 32 -12 0.1596
20 28 PHOENIX  Lisztomania 20 22 -2 0.1668
15 29 BLINK 182  After Midnight 19 25 -6 0.1605
14 30 SKRILLEX  Scary Monsters And Nice ... 19 26 -7 0.1431
31 31 BLACK KEYS  Howlin' For You 18 18 0 0.149
36 32  EXAMPLE  Changed The Way You Kiss Me 15 13 2 0.0821
0 33  NAKED AND FAMOUS  Punching In A Dream 14 0 14 0.1068
0 34  RISE AGAINST  Satellite 14 0 14 0.1027
13 35 ALL-AMERICAN REJECTS  Beekeeper's Daughter 13 28 -15 0.086
33 36 SHINS  Simple Song 12 16 -4 0.0477
44 37  FRANZ FERDINAND  No You Girls 8 5 3 0.0554
42 38  LINKIN PARK  New Divide 8 7 1 0.0554
38 39 NEON TREES  Everybody Talks 8 12 -4 0.0302
18 40 RED HOT CHILI PEPPERS  Monarchy Of Roses 8 23 -15 0.0586
19 41 BUSH  The Sound Of Winter 7 22 -15 0.0553
0 42  COLDPLAY  Charlie Brown 7 0 7 0.051
39 43 LANA DEL REY  Video Games 7 10 -3 0.0091
41 44 LINKIN PARK  Waiting For The End 7 8 -1 0.0571
30 45 FOO FIGHTERS  Walk 6 19 -13 0.0444
40 46 SKRILLEX  Bangarang 6 10 -4 0.0242
46 47  THIRTY SECONDS TO MARS  This Is War 6 4 2 0.053
47 48  MUSE  Resistance 5 3 2 0.021
43 49 MUSE  Undisclosed Desires 5 7 -2 0.0431
45 50 WEEZER  I Want To 5 5 0 0.0295

Listening to them makes one appreciate KFOG more...pre-or-post DC (depending on one's prerogative.)  The top three songs have over 60 spins apiece, the next two are ~50.  Compare that to KFOG's top 5, which have around 33-37 (and even that's gone up.  It used to be right at 30.)  Then, #s six through twelve all have 30+ spins. 

That block of songs from #19-28 is particularly troublesome, considering the newest ones are Raindance Maggie or Pumped Up Kicks but they still have at least 20 spins.  Everything else is at least one year old.  Heck, some of those are two years old.    ::)  Such as "1901," "Lisztomania"...and why the heck are they still playing both of those?  "Little Lion Man" & "The Cave" aren't far behind, and their newer song "Roll Away Your Stone" is nowhere to be found.  On a related note, "Panic Switch," which is also about two years old, is still at #13.  They've had a number of singles since them, which Live 105 played for a few weeks and then dropped (including "Broken Bottles," which is still charting on alternative) all while holding onto "Panic Switch."

There are a few bright spots, like seeing Gotye at #1.  It's probably going to stay on their playlist for the next 14 years, but at least 64 spins are being used up by a band that doesn't have any other songs that sound exactly like it already on their playlist yet.  Ditto with M83 at #4.  It's also nice to see Avicii, Skrillex and Example.  And The Naked And Famous, too although it's annoying that they're only now playing "Punching in a Dream," which is about to go recurrent, while "Young Blood" is a year old and still in ~30ish rotation.

The main problem is...it's becoming so difficult to sit through all the rest of the nonsense to hear something worth hearing.  This really used to be a good station.  The only times it's good are their new music program, Soundcheck on Sun. nites from 7-10 (but it's the same time as all the other good programs on the other stations), and their electro program, Subsonic, on Saturday nights/Sunday mornings from 12-3.  I'm usually not up then.  I might as well put in a CD...or better yet, download the MP3.  (Oh, and since it took Live 105 so long, I'm lobbying DC to add "Punching in a Dream" so I won't have to listen to Live 105 to hear it.  Bwahaha.)

What isn't shown is their recurrents, which are even more intolerable.  They're still playing the most overplayed RedHotStoneTempleFooNirvanaRiseAgainstthesoundgardenSublimeFighterPilotNirvanaCakeMachine hits from the past 20 years, almost all of which from their respective artists, and in some cases from different artists too, sound the same.

Alice is exactly like this too, just replace RedHotStoneTempleFooNirvanaRiseAgainstthesoundgardenSublimeFighterPilotNirvanaCakeMachine with KatyJasonLadyGooGooGagaLifehouseKellyScriptJohnTrainClarksonPerryGreenPinkDayMayerMrazDolls.

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« Reply #866 on: January 30, 2012, 01:50:52 PM »
Cliff Notes:

Radio sucks.

hee hee. But seriously, Radical's analysis was much appreciated as he's closer to Live 105's demo than I am and now I never have to listen to them on purpose again. (and hearing them at my gym yesterday was actually an improvement over our usual diet of Rev 92.7)
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« Reply #867 on: January 30, 2012, 02:55:17 PM »
Cliff Notes:

Radio sucks.

hee hee. But seriously, Radical's analysis was much appreciated as he's closer to Live 105's demo than I am and now I never have to listen to them on purpose again. (and hearing them at my gym yesterday was actually an improvement over our usual diet of Rev 92.7)

I'm almost thinking that Live 105 is now at the point many classic rock stations were in the mid-90's... an overreliance on material from 20 years ago while being very conservative on what new material they're breaking in. You'd think there's a format waiting to be discovered amongst all the clutter...

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« Reply #868 on: January 31, 2012, 11:45:49 AM »
Cliff Notes:

Radio sucks.

hee hee. But seriously, Radical's analysis was much appreciated as he's closer to Live 105's demo than I am and now I never have to listen to them on purpose again. (and hearing them at my gym yesterday was actually an improvement over our usual diet of Rev 92.7)

I'm almost thinking that Live 105 is now at the point many classic rock stations were in the mid-90's... an overreliance on material from 20 years ago while being very conservative on what new material they're breaking in. You'd think there's a format waiting to be discovered amongst all the clutter...
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« Reply #869 on: February 01, 2012, 12:24:12 PM »
DUUUUUUDE! It's Rush Day! (and we don't mean Limbaugh)

http://www.rttnews.com/Story.aspx?type=ent&Section=2&Id=1809021&%3BSM=1

So, are The Bone and/or K-Fox participating in this?
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