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Title: 14 June 2013: Father's Day 10@10 after all
Post by: Big Fingers McGee on June 14, 2013, 08:21:06 AM
While the Fathers Day theme set that AL did back in 2011 didn't do much for me, it is clear that the vast majority of Fogheads, including members of this club and GSers, were very enthusiastic about it. Why RR and company don't take advantage of such low-hanging fruit will forever be a mystery.

EDIT: Per RGMike, Tim (Jeffreys) has indicated it will be a Father's Day 10@10 after all.

And 10 lashes with a wet noodle to myself for taking an FP post at face value.
Title: Re: 14 June 2013: It's not your Father's 10@10
Post by: RGMike on June 14, 2013, 08:25:30 AM
While the Fathers Day theme set that AL did back in 2011 didn't do much for me, it is clear that the vast majority of Fogheads, including members of this club and GSers, were very enthusiastic about it. Why RR and company don't take advantage of such low-hanging fruit will forever be a mystery.

the phone calls from actual Fogheads talking abouit their dads, plus a bunch of songs/artists not normally heard on KFOG (Sinatra, etc) really made that one special IMHO.  RR doesn't need to be nearly that elaborate, but I'm guessing they think that Rosalie will have Father's Day covered on Sunday.

UPDATE: Tim just said it *is* a Father's Day set today!
Title: Re: 14 June 2013: Father's Day 10@10 after all
Post by: RGMike on June 14, 2013, 09:50:37 AM
10 lashes with a wet noodle to myself for taking an FP post at face value.

Been there. Done that.  ;)
Title: Re: 14 June 2013: Father's Day 10@10 after all
Post by: CapnJack on June 14, 2013, 10:03:20 AM
Leading off with Clapton "My Father's Eyes"
Title: Re: 14 June 2013: Father's Day 10@10 after all
Post by: RGMike on June 14, 2013, 10:03:35 AM
And to set the record straight: in 2009 and '10, AL did "Dads'n'Grads" sets iirc. Then in 2011 she did the famous Foghead dedications set.  last year she was out sick. and now it's Nay-Nay's turn...

a snoozy start with Crapton.  Nowhere to go but up from here.
Title: Re: 14 June 2013: Father's Day 10@10 after all
Post by: Big Fingers McGee on June 14, 2013, 10:07:35 AM
Leading off with Clapton "My Father's Eyes"

Not a promising start.
Title: Re: 14 June 2013: Father's Day 10@10 after all
Post by: CapnJack on June 14, 2013, 10:08:25 AM
Cat Stevens "Father And Son"
Title: Re: 14 June 2013: Father's Day 10@10 after all
Post by: RGMike on June 14, 2013, 10:08:29 AM
awww... BOS1 the Cat Man. This is to Father's Day what "Monster Mash" is to Halloween.
Title: Re: 14 June 2013: Father's Day 10@10 after all
Post by: ggould on June 14, 2013, 10:09:54 AM
awww... BOS1 the Cat Man. This is to Father's Day what "Monster Mash" is to Halloween.
where do you put "Cat's In The Cradle?"
Title: Re: 14 June 2013: Father's Day 10@10 after all
Post by: ggould on June 14, 2013, 10:10:39 AM
Leading off with Clapton "My Father's Eyes"
Not a promising start.
you guys are missing out!
Title: Re: 14 June 2013: Father's Day 10@10 after all
Post by: Big Fingers McGee on June 14, 2013, 10:11:01 AM
awww... BOS1 the Cat Man. This is to Father's Day what "Monster Mash" is to Halloween.
where do you put "Cat's In The Cradle?"

which version? Ugly Kid Joe?  :P
Title: Re: 14 June 2013: Father's Day 10@10 after all
Post by: RGMike on June 14, 2013, 10:11:45 AM
some Brooooce to make the 'snipes happy. I wouldn't've thought of this one, necessarily.
Title: Re: 14 June 2013: Father's Day 10@10 after all
Post by: ggould on June 14, 2013, 10:11:58 AM
awww... BOS1 the Cat Man. This is to Father's Day what "Monster Mash" is to Halloween.
where do you put "Cat's In The Cradle?"
which version? Ugly Kid Joe?  :P
[sighs]
Title: Re: 14 June 2013: Father's Day 10@10 after all
Post by: CapnJack on June 14, 2013, 10:12:07 AM
Springsteen "My Hometown"
Title: Re: 14 June 2013: Father's Day 10@10 after all
Post by: Big Fingers McGee on June 14, 2013, 10:13:20 AM
Springsteen "My Hometown"

Continuing with the snooze theme.
Title: Re: 14 June 2013: Father's Day 10@10 after all
Post by: RGMike on June 14, 2013, 10:13:30 AM
Leading off with Clapton "My Father's Eyes"
Not a promising start.
you guys are missing out!

sorry. writng a sappy song about your father late in the adult-contempo portion of your career is a pretty obvious cash-in move.  ;)
Title: Re: 14 June 2013: Father's Day 10@10 after all
Post by: Big Fingers McGee on June 14, 2013, 10:14:46 AM
Leading off with Clapton "My Father's Eyes"
Not a promising start.
you guys are missing out!


sorry. writng a sappy song about your father late in the adult-contempo portion of your career is a pretty obvious cash-in move.  ;)

Especially when you've been in that adult-contempo portion of your career for 25 years.
Title: Re: 14 June 2013: Father's Day 10@10 after all
Post by: ggould on June 14, 2013, 10:14:56 AM
disclosure:
In addition to being a corny sap anyway, and having 3 children, having been at my father's bedside when he died, I am also slated to become a grandfather in December.  I will try to keep the sap flow to a minimum.
Title: Re: 14 June 2013: Father's Day 10@10 after all
Post by: RGMike on June 14, 2013, 10:15:49 AM
ooo!  BOS2 Neil, "I Am a Child". VERY nice choice.
Title: Re: 14 June 2013: Father's Day 10@10 after all
Post by: ggould on June 14, 2013, 10:16:17 AM
BOS so far "I Am A Child"
Title: Re: 14 June 2013: Father's Day 10@10 after all
Post by: CapnJack on June 14, 2013, 10:17:21 AM
Buffalo Springfield "I Am A Child"
Title: Re: 14 June 2013: Father's Day 10@10 after all
Post by: RGMike on June 14, 2013, 10:18:42 AM
disclosure:
In addition to being a corny sap anyway, and having 3 children, having been at my father's bedside when he died, I am also slated to become a grandfather in December.  I will try to keep the sap flow to a minimum.

oh, I'm quite capable of sappiness. If I ever finish my novel, some folks are gonna be very surprised.

VHM Marc Cohn, "Silver Thunderbird".
Title: Re: 14 June 2013: Father's Day 10@10 after all
Post by: CapnJack on June 14, 2013, 10:19:10 AM
Marc Cohn "Silver Thunderbird"
Title: Re: 14 June 2013: Father's Day 10@10 after all
Post by: CapnJack on June 14, 2013, 10:23:02 AM
John Hiatt "Your Dad Did"
Title: Re: 14 June 2013: Father's Day 10@10 after all
Post by: RGMike on June 14, 2013, 10:23:11 AM
Hiatt: meh.
Title: Re: 14 June 2013: Father's Day 10@10 after all
Post by: RGMike on June 14, 2013, 10:26:16 AM
BOS3 John.
Title: Re: 14 June 2013: Father's Day 10@10 after all
Post by: Here'sToYa! on June 14, 2013, 10:26:40 AM
disclosure:
In addition to being a corny sap anyway, and having 3 children, having been at my father's bedside when he died, I am also slated to become a grandfather in December.  I will try to keep the sap flow to a minimum.

Congrats!
Title: Re: 14 June 2013: Father's Day 10@10 after all
Post by: CapnJack on June 14, 2013, 10:27:06 AM
John Lennon's ode to Sean "Beautiful Boy (Darling Boy)"
Title: Re: 14 June 2013: Father's Day 10@10 after all
Post by: Here'sToYa! on June 14, 2013, 10:28:21 AM
BOS3 John.

I feel sorry for Julian. It's not his fault that Dad didn't love wife #1.
Title: Re: 14 June 2013: Father's Day 10@10 after all
Post by: radical347 on June 14, 2013, 10:29:39 AM
BOS John Hiatt
Title: Re: 14 June 2013: Father's Day 10@10 after all
Post by: RGMike on June 14, 2013, 10:30:48 AM
Mr Belew with a Morey fave, "Oh Daddy". Which is what Alejandro used to call Dave, I'm guessing.
Title: Re: 14 June 2013: Father's Day 10@10 after all
Post by: CapnJack on June 14, 2013, 10:30:57 AM
Adrian Belew "Oh Daddy"
Title: Re: 14 June 2013: Father's Day 10@10 after all
Post by: urth on June 14, 2013, 10:32:07 AM
disclosure:
In addition to being a corny sap anyway, and having 3 children, having been at my father's bedside when he died, I am also slated to become a grandfather in December.  I will try to keep the sap flow to a minimum.

Geoff, that's what we count on you for.  ;)

Oh, and congrats to you and Martha, and whichever of your kids is about to pop one out.
Title: Re: 14 June 2013: Father's Day 10@10 after all
Post by: ggould on June 14, 2013, 10:32:53 AM
disclosure:
In addition to being a corny sap anyway, and having 3 children, having been at my father's bedside when he died, I am also slated to become a grandfather in December.  I will try to keep the sap flow to a minimum.

Geoff, that's what we count on you for.  ;)

Oh, and congrats to you and Martha, and whichever of your kids is about to pop one out.
It's Grace, our middle child, who is also a science teacher.
Title: Re: 14 June 2013: Father's Day 10@10 after all
Post by: RGMike on June 14, 2013, 10:33:28 AM
WOS this creepy John Mayer song.
Title: Re: 14 June 2013: Father's Day 10@10 after all
Post by: CapnJack on June 14, 2013, 10:33:47 AM
John Mayer "Daughters"
Title: Re: 14 June 2013: Father's Day 10@10 after all
Post by: radical347 on June 14, 2013, 10:34:46 AM
Mr Belew with a Morey fave, "Oh Daddy". Which is what Alejandro used to call Dave, I'm guessing.

VHM AB. Who's Alejandro?  :o
WOS Mayer, quite possibly WOY. (Worst of Year) Can't have "fathers," "daughters," and "lovers" in the same line.  :-X
Title: Re: 14 June 2013: Father's Day 10@10 after all
Post by: radical347 on June 14, 2013, 10:35:09 AM
disclosure:
In addition to being a corny sap anyway, and having 3 children, having been at my father's bedside when he died, I am also slated to become a grandfather in December.  I will try to keep the sap flow to a minimum.

Wow, that's great! Congratulations :)
Title: Re: 14 June 2013: Father's Day 10@10 after all
Post by: Here'sToYa! on June 14, 2013, 10:35:25 AM
WOS this creepy John Mayer song.

Boyfriends be good to your girlfriends -- start with the man in the mirror, JM.
Title: Re: 14 June 2013: Father's Day 10@10 after all
Post by: RGMike on June 14, 2013, 10:35:41 AM
Mr Belew with a Morey fave, "Oh Daddy". Which is what Alejandro used to call Dave, I'm guessing.

VHM AB. Who's Alejandro?  :o

Dave's longtime boyfriend. He loves him some Latino hotties.

glad  to see I'm not the only one who hates this Mayer tune.

Girls become lovers
who turn into mothers


er, eww.
Title: Re: 14 June 2013: Father's Day 10@10 after all
Post by: CapnJack on June 14, 2013, 10:38:02 AM
Loudon Wainwright III "Daughter"
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Post by: RGMike on June 14, 2013, 10:38:17 AM
nicest surprise: Loudon Wainwright, who I adore.  BOS4.
Title: Re: 14 June 2013: Father's Day 10@10 after all
Post by: Here'sToYa! on June 14, 2013, 10:40:48 AM
Loudon Wainwright III "Daughter"

From the Knocked Up soundtrack, I believe (then again, I'm the guy who misidentified Keef as Mellencamp and a flugelhorn as a French horn yesterday)
Title: Re: 14 June 2013: Father's Day 10@10 after all
Post by: urth on June 14, 2013, 10:41:07 AM
The skeezy JM tune is somewhat redeemed by Loudon Wainwright III's ode to his relationship with *his* daughter (Martha?).

Here's hoping we can get thru this without the Paul Simon Father/Daughter song that's been just a bit too over-exposed since its release.
Title: Re: 14 June 2013: Father's Day 10@10 after all
Post by: CapnJack on June 14, 2013, 10:41:36 AM
Wow, Renee is breaking up on air...
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Post by: Here'sToYa! on June 14, 2013, 10:41:46 AM
The woman has emotions besides anger!
Title: Re: 14 June 2013: Father's Day 10@10 after all
Post by: RGMike on June 14, 2013, 10:41:53 AM
OMG Renee's all choked up.   This set was quite lovely. This has been an above-average week, for sure.
Title: Re: 14 June 2013: Father's Day 10@10 after all
Post by: ggould on June 14, 2013, 10:42:32 AM
Loudon Wainwright III "Daughter"

From the Knocked Up soundtrack, I believe (then again, I'm the guy who misidentified Keef as Mellencamp and a flugelhorn as a French horn yesterday)
yes, a coworker just came in to say how great this song was, and that he first heard it from that movie!
Title: Re: 14 June 2013: Father's Day 10@10 after all
Post by: urth on June 14, 2013, 10:43:04 AM
Awwww, RR got all misty -- maybe she really does have a soul.
Title: Re: 14 June 2013: Father's Day 10@10 after all
Post by: RGMike on June 14, 2013, 10:48:04 AM
Tom Shane's son is named "Rordan"? (Riordan?) Sounds very Celtic.
Title: Re: 14 June 2013: Father's Day 10@10 after all
Post by: RGMike on June 14, 2013, 10:50:15 AM
Awwww, RR got all misty -- maybe she really does have a soul.

This certainly proves (as if it needed proving) that any set can be above-average if a little bit of thought goes into it. More, please.
Title: Re: 14 June 2013: Father's Day 10@10 after all
Post by: CapnJack on June 14, 2013, 10:50:55 AM
Renee said she added Marc Cohn at the last minute. I wonder what she had originally planned to play - Harry Chapin? Paul Simon?

Renee says Adrian Belew gets BOS.

ETA: Renee's personal BOS went to Loudon Wainwright III.
Title: Re: 14 June 2013: Father's Day 10@10 after all
Post by: RGMike on June 14, 2013, 10:52:49 AM
Renee said she added Marc Cohn at the last minute. I wonder what she had originally planned to play - Harry Chapin? Paul Simon?

Renee says Adrian Belew gets BOS.

Tim played the Simon "Father & daughter" song just before 9:00. Maybe he messed her up with that. He also hinted he was going to play F.Mac's "Oh Daddy" but that never materialized.
Title: Re: 14 June 2013: Father's Day 10@10 after all
Post by: CapnJack on June 14, 2013, 10:54:52 AM
Johnny Cash "A Boy Named Sue"
Paul McCartney "Put It Ther"
Angie "Peppermint Lump"
Title: Re: 14 June 2013: Father's Day 10@10 after all
Post by: ggould on June 14, 2013, 11:04:11 AM
Renee said she added Marc Cohn at the last minute. I wonder what she had originally planned to play - Harry Chapin? Paul Simon?
Renee says Adrian Belew gets BOS.
Tim played the Simon "Father & daughter" song just before 9:00. Maybe he messed her up with that. He also hinted he was going to play F.Mac's "Oh Daddy" but that never materialized.
That would have really puddled me.  "Father and Daughter" was the father/daughter dance song at my daughter's wedding!
Title: Re: 14 June 2013: Father's Day 10@10 after all
Post by: Here'sToYa! on June 14, 2013, 11:08:13 AM
Loudon Wainwright III "Daughter"

From the Knocked Up soundtrack, I believe (then again, I'm the guy who misidentified Keef as Mellencamp and a flugelhorn as a French horn yesterday)
yes, a coworker just came in to say how great this song was, and that he first heard it from that movie!

It' a cover! "Daughter" is a 1995 song by some fellow named Peter Blegvad.
Title: Re: 14 June 2013: Father's Day 10@10 after all
Post by: RGMike on June 14, 2013, 11:16:21 AM
Johnny Cash "A Boy Named Sue"
Paul McCartney "Put It There"
Angie "Peppermint Lump"


Madonna "Oh Father" (or "Papa Don't Preach")
Queen "Father to Son"
Wayne Newton "Daddy Don't You walk so Fast"

personally I'm glad we avoided Mr Chapin, tho' I know that's a Father's Day staple to many. And amazingly we also skipped "Papa Was a Rolling Stone"
Title: Re: 14 June 2013: Father's Day 10@10 after all
Post by: CapnJack on June 14, 2013, 11:20:50 AM
Johnny Cash "A Boy Named Sue"
Paul McCartney "Put It There"
Angie "Peppermint Lump"


Madonna "Oh Father" (or "Papa Don't Preach")
Queen "Father to Son"
Wayne Newton "Daddy Don't You walk so Fast"

personally I'm glad we avoided Mr Chapin, tho' I know that's a Father's Day staple to many. And amazingly we also skipped "Papa Was a Rolling Stone"

Bobby Goldsboro "Watching Scotty Grow"
Title: Re: 14 June 2013: Father's Day 10@10 after all
Post by: RGMike on June 14, 2013, 11:28:51 AM

Bobby Goldsboro "Watching Scotty Grow"

ha! speaking of sap -- a song I absolutely hated when I was 15 and now think is quite sweet.
Title: Re: 14 June 2013: Father's Day 10@10 after all
Post by: RGMike on June 14, 2013, 11:31:10 AM
Awwww, RR got all misty -- maybe she really does have a soul.

This certainly proves (as if it needed proving) that any set can be above-average if a little bit of thought goes into it. More, please.

And worth noting that the calendar falls in such a way that we *could* get a "First day of Summer" set next Friday (6/21) and the Pride Set the Friday after that.
Title: Re: 14 June 2013: Father's Day 10@10 after all
Post by: CapnJack on June 14, 2013, 01:39:43 PM

Bobby Goldsboro "Watching Scotty Grow"

ha! speaking of sap -- a song I absolutely hated when I was 15 and now think is quite sweet.

Keeping with the sappiness, I had one more song in mind:

Clint Holmes "Playground In My Mind"

but I'm not sure it fits the Father's Day theme (or does it)?  ;D
Title: Re: 14 June 2013: Father's Day 10@10 after all
Post by: RGMike on June 14, 2013, 02:10:26 PM

Bobby Goldsboro "Watching Scotty Grow"

ha! speaking of sap -- a song I absolutely hated when I was 15 and now think is quite sweet.

Keeping with the sappiness, I had one more song in mind:

Clint Holmes "Playground In My Mind"

but I'm not sure it fits the Father's Day theme (or does it)?  ;D

My name is Michael. I've got a nickel that says... tenuous at best.
Title: Re: 14 June 2013: Father's Day 10@10 after all
Post by: CapnJack on June 14, 2013, 09:20:12 PM
2013-06-14 - FRIDAY!! Happy Father's Day!
 1. Eric Clapton - My Father's Eyes
 2. Cat Stevens - Father And Son
 3. Bruce Springsteen - My Hometown
 4. Buffalo Springfield - I Am A Child
 5. Marc Cohn - Silver Thunderbird
(TV: The Cosby Show)
 6. John Hiatt - Your Dad Did
 7. John Lennon - Beautiful Boy (Darling Boy)
 8. Adrian Belew - Oh Daddy (BOS)
 9. John Mayer - Daughters
10. Loudon Wainwright III - Daughter
Title: Re: 14 June 2013: It's not your Father's 10@10
Post by: dischead on June 14, 2013, 10:12:06 PM
While the Fathers Day theme set that AL did back in 2011 didn't do much for me, it is clear that the vast majority of Fogheads, including members of this club and GSers, were very enthusiastic about it. Why RR and company don't take advantage of such low-hanging fruit will forever be a mystery.
the phone calls from actual Fogheads talking abouit their dads, plus a bunch of songs/artists not normally heard on KFOG (Sinatra, etc) really made that one special IMHO.  RR doesn't need to be nearly that elaborate, but I'm guessing they think that Rosalie will have Father's Day covered on Sunday.

UPDATE: Tim just said it *is* a Father's Day set today!

Given the obvious lack of effort we've seen in the current 10@10 era, it seems unlikely that
a tribute set with Foghead comments would be done.
Title: Re: 14 June 2013: Father's Day 10@10 after all
Post by: dischead on June 14, 2013, 10:21:41 PM
John Mayer "Daughters"

BOS from me.  A sweet and lovely song.  I find the sentiment to be sincere, and not at all
creepy.

BOS also for "I Am A Child," VHM for "Silver Thunderbird."
Title: Re: 14 June 2013: Father's Day 10@10 after all
Post by: dischead on June 14, 2013, 10:32:13 PM
WOS this creepy John Mayer song.
Boyfriends be good to your girlfriends -- start with the man in the mirror, JM.

I suspect that if we listened only to the music of those without any moral failings, or who had
no vices of which we disapproved, it would be a very quiet world indeed.

I am generally not a "fan" of musicians, in the sense that I don't care a bit about what they
eat for breakfast or which brand of toothpaste they use.  Such things don't interest me.
Someone would have to be quite a heinous monster before I would refuse to listen to their
music for that reason, as opposed to simply not liking it.
Title: Re: 14 June 2013: Father's Day 10@10 after all
Post by: dischead on June 14, 2013, 10:40:40 PM
No appropriate songs for Father's Day spring to mind, but how about a quote?

"For one brief moment I saw all the bolts silhouetted against the lights of the traffic...
and then they were gone!  'Ohhh... fudge.'  Only I didn't say 'fudge' -- I said the word.
Now I had heard that word at least ten times a day from my old man.  My father worked
in profanity the way other artists might work in oils or clay.  It was his true medium -- a master."
-- Jean Shepherd, "A Christmas Story"
Title: Re: 14 June 2013: Father's Day 10@10 after all
Post by: ggould on June 15, 2013, 03:36:57 PM
WOS this creepy John Mayer song.
Boyfriends be good to your girlfriends -- start with the man in the mirror, JM.

I suspect that if we listened only to the music of those without any moral failings, or who had
no vices of which we disapproved, it would be a very quiet world indeed.

I am generally not a "fan" of musicians, in the sense that I don't care a bit about what they
eat for breakfast or which brand of toothpaste they use.  Such things don't interest me.
Someone would have to be quite a heinous monster before I would refuse to listen to their
music for that reason, as opposed to simply not liking it.
I remember taking (not finishing!) a course on literary criticism at UC back in 71-72 (whenever "American Pie" was on the radio.)  It's always a question of how to interpret art.  Does it matter what the artist meant?  Does it matter what the social implications are? Do we use knowledge of the artist to judge the art?  Ultimately, to what extent does (or can) the art stand by itself?

These are not the only guidelines, nor do I believe the issues are settled, but yes, I do think we react to music with more than a musical point-of-view.  Not a newsflash, just felt like saying that.
Title: Re: 14 June 2013: Father's Day 10@10 after all
Post by: dischead on June 15, 2013, 05:47:52 PM
WOS this creepy John Mayer song.
Boyfriends be good to your girlfriends -- start with the man in the mirror, JM.
I suspect that if we listened only to the music of those without any moral failings, or who had
no vices of which we disapproved, it would be a very quiet world indeed.

I am generally not a "fan" of musicians, in the sense that I don't care a bit about what they
eat for breakfast or which brand of toothpaste they use.  Such things don't interest me.
Someone would have to be quite a heinous monster before I would refuse to listen to their
music for that reason, as opposed to simply not liking it.
I remember taking (not finishing!) a course on literary criticism at UC back in 71-72 (whenever "American Pie" was on the radio.)  It's always a question of how to interpret art.  Does it matter what the artist meant?  Does it matter what the social implications are? Do we use knowledge of the artist to judge the art?  Ultimately, to what extent does (or can) the art stand by itself?

These are not the only guidelines, nor do I believe the issues are settled, but yes, I do think we react to music with more than a musical point-of-view.  Not a newsflash, just felt like saying that.

Apparently a certain amount of ink has been spent detailing that Mr. Mayer has, at times, been
something of a jerk towards the women he has dated.  Despite not having seen any of it, even
that simple fact has penetrated my cloak of indifference.  I strongly suspect that, regardless of
whether the coverage has been equivalent, some of these women occasionally have been
bitches towards Mr. Mayer.  I think most of us have been there at one time or another.  What
I have trouble imagining is what it would be like to have to learn my lessons in life with an
audience of literally tens of millions of people, complete with photographers and self-appointed
scribes.  That doesn't necessarily excuse his behavior, however I am willing to grant considerably
more leeway, particularly since the Greek chorus has a vested interest in there being something
attention-grabbing to sing about.  Uneventful lives make for dull copy and don't sell as many
magazines.

I think it is possible for artists to transmit a lesson even if they don't exemplify it, understand it,
or even intend it.  I believe that art is primarily about its impact on those who experience it --
does it touch them or move them, and if so, how?  In particular, I tend to take music at face
value, judging it on how it makes me feel or what it makes me think about when I listen to it.
Maybe that's what the artist intended, or maybe not.  A lot of times when I read about the
creation of a song and what the musician was attempting to accomplish (if anything), I find it
strikingly different from what I got out of their work.  Learning about their process is often
interesting, but it rarely adds to my appreciation.