10at10 Club
Main Discussion Area => KFOG's 10@10 => Topic started by: RGMike on October 15, 2012, 09:19:53 AM
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no clue as of 9:15 am today.
ETA: Tim spills the beans at 9:58 "The year Charles & Diana were married".
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uber-LN1: "Centerfold".
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uber-LN1: "Centerfold".
And WOS.
'this aint no never never land'
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Could "Jessie's Girl" make an appearance????? :o :'( >:(
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"Girls on Film" followed by "Stray Cat Strut" -- Renee's using UK release dates again.
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Holee crap!! BOS Jon & Vangelis, "Friends of Mr Cairo"! An old Morey mainstay we haven't heard in a while.
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LN2: Police.
LN3: "Rapture".
LN4: "In the Air Tonight"
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Holee crap!! BOS Jon & Vangelis, "Friends of Mr Cairo"! An old Morey mainstay we haven't heard in a while.
Cool. One song that is not a totally obvious selection (release dates notwithstanding).
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NOOOOOOOOOO!!! Prepare to be "unheezed" by Kim Carnes. uber-uber-LN5.
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Don't you want the Spirit of '68 (1st Renee 10@10), baby?
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OK this is just nuts. We get "Don't You Want Me" because it has a UK release date of late '81 (even tho' it didn't hit here until spring '82)... and now we get John's "Starting Over" -- a late '80 US release. Make up your mind, Renee.
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OK this is just nuts. We get "Don't You Want Me" because it has a UK release date of late '81 (even tho' it didn't hit here until spring '82)... and now we get John's "Starting Over" -- a late '80 US release. Make up your mind, Renee.
Were Morey and Annalisa consistent in their methodology in this regard?
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How's the Snipe reaction to this?
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OK this is just nuts. We get "Don't You Want Me" because it has a UK release date of late '81 (even tho' it didn't hit here until spring '82)... and now we get John's "Starting Over" -- a late '80 US release. Make up your mind, Renee.
Were Morey and Annalisa consistent in their methodology in this regard?
DM would error on the side of release date, AL a little less so. Once in awhile they'd make a flat-out mistake (And I know that DM admitted as much on at least one occasion, when he played U2's "Trying To Throw Your Arms Around The World" as part of a 1987, while the song was off "Achtung Baby"). AL would cheat here and there to get a soundtrack tune it.
But neither would be this crazy about it.
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1. J. Geils Band - Centerfold
(Movie: Mommy Dearest - I love you Mommy Dearest. No one said life was fair.)
2. Duran Duran - Girls On Film
3. Stray Cats - Stray Cat Strut
4. Jon and Vangelis - Friends of Mr. Cairo
(Pacman)
5. The Police - Every Little Thing She Does Is Magic
6. Blondie - Rapture
(News: Japanese scientist look at med-flies in Calif)
7. Phil Collins - In The Air Tonite
8. Kim Carnes - Bette Davis Eyes
(Commcercial: The gull wing doors of the DeLorean, a perfect place to hide your cocaine)
9. Human League - Don't You Want Me?
10. John Lennon - (Just Like) Starting Over
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1. J. Geils Band - Centerfold
(Movie: Mommy Dearest - I love you Mommy Dearest. No one said life was fair.)
2. Duran Duran - Girls On Film
3. Stray Cats - Stray Cat Strut
4. Jon and Vangelis - Friends of Mr. Cairo
(Pacman)
5. The Police - Every Little Thing She Does Is Magic
6. Blondie - Rapture
(News: Japanese scientist look at med-flies in Calif)
7. Phil Collins - In The Air Tonite
8. Kim Carnes - Bette Davis Eyes
(Commcercial: The gull wing doors of the DeLorean, a perfect place to hide your cocaine)
9. Human League - Don't You Want Me?
10. John Lennon - (Just Like) Starting Over
So, there are five #1 songs (1, 6, 8, 9, 10), three AAA standbys (3, 5, 7), an overplayed MTV staple (2), and one legitamite surprise (4). This gets an aggregate D-.
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IIRC, AL was also pretty nutso about the release date & threw in quite a few tracks on their UK release. One that comes to mind was David Gray's "Please Forgive Me" which she played in 1998, even though it wasn't released in the US until 2000 and didn't really hit the airwaves until 2001. Then there was the "Southside" fiasco.
It could be argued that if Renee's playing the hits, then she should play them in the year that they were hits -- but I can't get too mad about her playing a song in its release year. I'd rather complain about hearing too many overplayed songs @ 10@10, regardless of whether she plays them in the UK or US release year.
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IIRC, AL was also pretty nutso about the release date & threw in quite a few tracks on their UK release. One that comes to mind was David Gray's "Please Forgive Me" which she played in 1998, even though it wasn't released in the US until 2000 and didn't really hit the airwaves until 2001. Then there was the "Southside" fiasco.
It could be argued that if Renee's playing the hits, then she should play them in the year that they were hits -- but I can't get too mad about her playing a song in its release year. I'd rather complain about hearing too many overplayed songs @ 10@10, regardless of whether she plays them in the UK or US release year.
But "Southside" is the exception that proves the rule, don't you think? AL certainly wasn't doing this 3-4 times a set.
And yeah, the year selection has been earlier than expected, but we're getting way, way too many LNs.
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IIRC, AL was also pretty nutso about the release date & threw in quite a few tracks on their UK release. One that comes to mind was David Gray's "Please Forgive Me" which she played in 1998, even though it wasn't released in the US until 2000 and didn't really hit the airwaves until 2001. Then there was the "Southside" fiasco.
It could be argued that if Renee's playing the hits, then she should play them in the year that they were hits -- but I can't get too mad about her playing a song in its release year. I'd rather complain about hearing too many overplayed songs @ 10@10, regardless of whether she plays them in the UK or US release year.
But "Southside" is the exception that proves the rule, don't you think? AL certainly wasn't doing this 3-4 times a set.
And yeah, the year selection has been earlier than expected, but we're getting way, way too many LNs.
If nothing else, be consistent. She played "Starting Over", which was certainly on the charts thoughout early '81, but which AL and DM both played mostly in 1980 (often after a Lennon shooting clip).
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IIRC, AL was also pretty nutso about the release date & threw in quite a few tracks on their UK release. One that comes to mind was David Gray's "Please Forgive Me" which she played in 1998, even though it wasn't released in the US until 2000 and didn't really hit the airwaves until 2001. Then there was the "Southside" fiasco.
It could be argued that if Renee's playing the hits, then she should play them in the year that they were hits -- but I can't get too mad about her playing a song in its release year. I'd rather complain about hearing too many overplayed songs @ 10@10, regardless of whether she plays them in the UK or US release year.
But "Southside" is the exception that proves the rule, don't you think? AL certainly wasn't doing this 3-4 times a set.
And yeah, the year selection has been earlier than expected, but we're getting way, way too many LNs.
To be fair, I couldn't tell you if a song played before ~93 was released the year before it was a hit. But I do remember AL saying flat-out that she prefers to play a song in its release year. I guess one thing that made it less noticeable is that a lot of tracks AL played weren't hits anywhere, or were barely hits, so release year vs. hit year was moot.
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Good points. Listening to RR reminds me of overhearing idiots talk about sports getting basic tidbits wrong, i.e “Bonds was on roids when he broke McGwire’s record in 96”. I mean, I can understand not getting the year F.P. Santangelo played for the Giants right, but it’s like Come On!
Putting "Stray Cat Strut" and "Don't You Want Me" into 1981 is what really galls me about this set - both are much, much, much more identified with 1982.
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Good points. Listening to RR reminds me of overhearing idiots talk about sports getting basic tidbits wrong, i.e “Bonds was on roids when he broke McGwire’s record in 96”. I mean, I can understand not getting the year F.P. Santangelo played for the Giants right, but it’s like Come On!
Putting "Stray Cat Strut" and "Don't You Want Me" into 1981 is what really galls me about this set - both are much, much, much more identified with 1982.
Both strands of this discussion highlight the fact that 10@10 is in the hands of someone who is not a musical historian, which is a shame. Dred is a superb musical historian, which would seem to make him a natural for 10@10, but I'm sure the honchos are much happier parking him well outside of radio primetime.
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Good points. Listening to RR reminds me of overhearing idiots talk about sports getting basic tidbits wrong, i.e “Bonds was on roids when he broke McGwire’s record in 96”. I mean, I can understand not getting the year F.P. Santangelo played for the Giants right, but it’s like Come On!
Putting "Stray Cat Strut" and "Don't You Want Me" into 1981 is what really galls me about this set - both are much, much, much more identified with 1982.
Both strands of this discussion highlight the fact that 10@10 is in the hands of someone who is not a musical historian, which is a shame. Dred is a superb musical historian, which would seem to make him a natural for 10@10, but I'm sure the honchos are much happier parking him well outside of radio primetime.
Of course, we're told that DC is a musical historian too, but he clearly thinks it doesn't matter, 10@10-wise. If KFOG can get the same ratings in that hour without exerting too much effort, then why make a big production out of it. The casual Foghead doesn't notice the difference, in all likelihood.
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Good points. Listening to RR reminds me of overhearing idiots talk about sports getting basic tidbits wrong, i.e “Bonds was on roids when he broke McGwire’s record in 96”. I mean, I can understand not getting the year F.P. Santangelo played for the Giants right, but it’s like Come On!
Putting "Stray Cat Strut" and "Don't You Want Me" into 1981 is what really galls me about this set - both are much, much, much more identified with 1982.
Both strands of this discussion highlight the fact that 10@10 is in the hands of someone who is not a musical historian, which is a shame. Dred is a superb musical historian, which would seem to make him a natural for 10@10, but I'm sure the honchos are much happier parking him well outside of radio primetime.
Of course, we're told that DC is a musical historian too, but he clearly thinks it doesn't matter, 10@10-wise. If KFOG can get the same ratings in that hour without exerting too much effort, then why make a big production out of it. The casual Foghead doesn't notice the difference, in all likelihood.
If he thinks it doesn't matter, than he really is evil.