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Re: We're all gonna rock to the rules that I make -- Election 2008
« Reply #180 on: September 05, 2008, 12:24:24 PM »

 that is just obscene.


I wasn't too disturbed to see in the same article that the First Lady's outfit was around $4000.  But I mean, how many people are gonna see the price tag on Cindy's oufit and think "WTF!? That cost more than my mortgage!"

(or if you live in the Bay Area "...about half my mortgage!")
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Re: We're all gonna rock to the rules that I make -- Election 2008
« Reply #181 on: September 05, 2008, 05:04:56 PM »
news item:
Rock group Heart says "Barracuda" use at RNC is fishy
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080905/en_nm/heart_palin_dc_1
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Re: We're all gonna rock to the rules that I make -- Election 2008
« Reply #182 on: September 05, 2008, 08:21:21 PM »
news item:
Rock group Heart says "Barracuda" use by RNC is fishy
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080905/en_nm/heart_palin_dc_1


I didn't realize ASCAP license fees gave politicians blanket coverage to use songs in campaigns. But this has happened before, and usually campaigns will stop using songs if asked. (Mellencamp asked some Repub last year to stop using "Our Country", and of course there was the Springsteen/Reagan "Born in the USA" dust-up.)  If Palin keeps using it, the Wilsons should donate the royalties to the Obama campaign.

All of this makes me even more curious about the Dems' use of Brooks & Dunn last week, and whether B&D approved.

ETA, per Rolling Stone:

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If it felt familiar when Brooks & Dunn’s “Only In America” played after Barack Obama’s acceptance speech last night, there was good reason: President George W. Bush used the same song four years ago when he was rallying against Democratic candidate John Kerry. Brooks & Dunn were big supporters of Bush, even playing W’s inauguration party back in 2001. So how does Kix Brooks feel about Obama’s use of the track? He wasn’t angry at Obama for using the song, a la Jackson Browne with John McCain. Instead Brooks said, “Seems ironic that the same song Bush used at the Republican Convention last election would be used by Obama and the Democrats now. Very flattering to know our song crossed parties and potentially inspires all Americans.”

So, they haven't complained, but they're clearly not Obama endorsers either.
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Re: We're all gonna rock to the rules that I make -- Election 2008
« Reply #183 on: September 06, 2008, 10:27:20 PM »
In case you missed the Daily Show's "John McCain: From Maverick Reformer to Reformed Maverick" Friday nite -- narrated by Ian McShane (a very nice touch)... here it is:

http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=184113&title=john-mccain-reformed-maverick
 
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Re: We're all gonna rock to the rules that I make -- Election 2008
« Reply #184 on: September 07, 2008, 08:03:36 AM »
Palin's church is helping to stage a "pray away the gay" conversion conference:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080906/ap_on_el_pr/palin_gays

This to me is far more worrisome than the miscontextualized comments of Rev. Wright.
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Re: We're all gonna rock to the rules that I make -- Election 2008
« Reply #185 on: September 08, 2008, 10:30:13 AM »
Palin's church is helping to stage a "pray away the gay" conversion conference:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080906/ap_on_el_pr/palin_gays

This to me is far more worrisome than the miscontextualized comments of Rev. Wright.

is "miscontextualized" actually a word, or is it like misunderestimate?
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Re: We're all gonna rock to the rules that I make -- Election 2008
« Reply #186 on: September 08, 2008, 11:05:12 AM »
Palin's church is helping to stage a "pray away the gay" conversion conference:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080906/ap_on_el_pr/palin_gays

This to me is far more worrisome than the miscontextualized comments of Rev. Wright.

is "miscontextualized" actually a word, or is it like misunderestimate?
If it isn't a word, it should be, and I'm specifically using it to mean "consciously placed in an incorrect context to make a point."
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Re: We're all gonna rock to the rules that I make -- Election 2008
« Reply #187 on: September 08, 2008, 11:06:59 AM »
Palin's church is helping to stage a "pray away the gay" conversion conference:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080906/ap_on_el_pr/palin_gays

This to me is far more worrisome than the miscontextualized comments of Rev. Wright.

I agree, of course, but the problem is... every time one of these things comes out it fires up the Fundies even more. Which is why McCain/Rove picked her in the first place.  I'm feeling very depressed at the moment.
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Re: We're all gonna rock to the rules that I make -- Election 2008
« Reply #188 on: September 08, 2008, 11:18:51 AM »
Palin's church is helping to stage a "pray away the gay" conversion conference:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080906/ap_on_el_pr/palin_gays

This to me is far more worrisome than the miscontextualized comments of Rev. Wright.

I agree, of course, but the problem is... every time one of these things comes out it fires up the Fundies even more. Which is why McCain/Rove picked her in the first place.  I'm feeling very depressed at the moment.

I'm not worried about the segment of the population that gets fired up about Palin.  People get excited about Veep candidates during the convention weeks, but they don't actually vote for the Veep in November.  She's not stealing votes from Obama, and the fundies aren't going to swing the election.  If anything they will alienate the voters who *will* swing the election.

I can't wait until the debates.
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Re: We're all gonna rock to the rules that I make -- Election 2008
« Reply #189 on: September 09, 2008, 07:59:46 AM »
Well, this was inevitable: the OTHER Palin for president!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jf1y9s73Nos
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Re: We're all gonna rock to the rules that I make -- Election 2008
« Reply #190 on: September 09, 2008, 10:45:12 AM »
Palin's church is helping to stage a "pray away the gay" conversion conference:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080906/ap_on_el_pr/palin_gays

This to me is far more worrisome than the miscontextualized comments of Rev. Wright.

is "miscontextualized" actually a word, or is it like misunderestimate?


If it isn't a word, it should be, and I'm specifically using it to mean "consciously placed in an incorrect context to make a point."

See I would have thought that it would be 'consciously placed in an incorrect removed from a correct context to make a point'.  In particular I think Wrights comments made some sense not only within the narrower context of the whole sermon (text specific) but the broader context (literally subtext) of the Black Church experience.  But probably two sides of the same coin semantically speaking.
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« Reply #191 on: September 09, 2008, 10:56:49 AM »
Well, this was inevitable: the OTHER Palin for president!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jf1y9s73Nos

..because apparently anyone can run the free world these days...so why not?
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Re: We're all gonna rock to the rules that I make -- Election 2008
« Reply #192 on: September 09, 2008, 11:05:34 AM »
Well, this was inevitable: the OTHER Palin for president!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jf1y9s73Nos

..because apparently anyone can run the free world these days...so why not?

Amusing, but I'm pretty sure that last clip was Eric Idle.
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Re: We're all gonna rock to the rules that I make -- Election 2008
« Reply #193 on: September 11, 2008, 07:54:20 AM »
From tghe WSJ, of all places... well-stated analysis:

http://www.wsj.com/article/SB122100226859616967.html?mod=hpp_us_inside_today

and just for comparison's sake:

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« Reply #194 on: September 11, 2008, 09:06:15 AM »
This WSJ piece was remarkable, Mike.  Thanks for posting.
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