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« Reply #225 on: April 24, 2006, 08:08:57 AM »
The Chron's Peter Hartlaub sings the praises of Journey's Escape as it turns 25:

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/04/24/DDGVRID9BV1.DTL

They discussed this on the KFOG Morning Show today.
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« Reply #226 on: April 24, 2006, 05:53:27 PM »
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The Chron's Peter Hartlaub sings the praises of Journey's Escape as it turns 25:

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/04/24/DDGVRID9BV1.DTL

They discussed this on the KFOG Morning Show today.


Sorry, this guy just lost any shred of credibility he had with me. I can totally understand him loving this album, but there is NO. WAY. IN. HELL. that it's anywhere near the artistic statement he makes it out to be. File it with your guilty pleasures or even desert island discs, bud. I suppose it may be as significant as any other mega-seller from that era to people who were in junior high or older at the time, but his argument is lost on me. I'll be curious to read the letters they get about this piece, from both sides.
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« Reply #227 on: April 24, 2006, 07:11:36 PM »
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The Chron's Peter Hartlaub sings the praises of Journey's Escape as it turns 25:

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/04/24/DDGVRID9BV1.DTL

They discussed this on the KFOG Morning Show today.


Sorry, this guy just lost any shred of credibility he had with me.


Someone had to do it; he took one for the team.
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« Reply #228 on: April 24, 2006, 07:51:12 PM »
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The Chron's Peter Hartlaub sings the praises of Journey's Escape as it turns 25:

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/04/24/DDGVRID9BV1.DTL

They discussed this on the KFOG Morning Show today.
Sorry, this guy just lost any shred of credibility he had with me.
Someone had to do it; he took one for the team.

I just have to imagine this article was done tongue in cheek.  I know Schon is talented, a former wunderkind, but I would think Journey ages about as well as those fashions you see in "The Wedding Singer."
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« Reply #229 on: April 24, 2006, 10:49:06 PM »
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The Chron's Peter Hartlaub sings the praises of Journey's Escape as it turns 25:

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/04/24/DDGVRID9BV1.DTL

They discussed this on the KFOG Morning Show today.


Sorry, this guy just lost any shred of credibility he had with me.


Someone had to do it; he took one for the team.


Point taken. Hartlaub and Vaziri are the two youngest members of the entertainment staff (seniority-wise anyway), and dog knows Vaziri couldn't have done this assignment and played it anywhere near straight.
Let's get right to it.

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« Reply #230 on: April 25, 2006, 08:10:27 AM »
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The Chron's Peter Hartlaub sings the praises of Journey's Escape as it turns 25:

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/04/24/DDGVRID9BV1.DTL

They discussed this on the KFOG Morning Show today.


Sorry, this guy just lost any shred of credibility he had with me.


Someone had to do it; he took one for the team.


Point taken. Hartlaub and Vaziri are the two youngest members of the entertainment staff (seniority-wise anyway), and dog knows Vaziri couldn't have done this assignment and played it anywhere near straight.


What excuse do the idiots pictured with their lps have?  "Look ma!  I'ze in da paper!"

Gag me.
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« Reply #231 on: April 25, 2006, 08:15:44 AM »
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Gag me.

My sediments exactly!
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« Reply #232 on: April 25, 2006, 09:06:58 AM »
Mark, you'll dig this posting from the ILM board, having constructed pop-culture syllabi of your own; maybe other Clubbers will as well.

http://ilx.wh3rd.net/thread.php?msgid=6936461

From The Beatles to Brit Pop:
British Popular Music and 20th Century British Popular Culture

This course will critique the socio-cultural impact of British popular music between 1963 and 1999. Songs and LPs will be read as texts which can offer unique insights into British views of class, sex and sexuality, race and politics. We will consider the influence of American culture (Black American culture in particular) on British popular music, the impact of immigration on concepts of Britishness, changing concepts of youth, the impact of changing technologies on music production and consumption, popular music scenes and the importance of location. Every week students will be expected to listen to at least three important LPs, attend a screening and engage in preparatory reading.

PREPARATORY READING

T.W. Adorno (1941), ‘On Popular Music’ in S. Frith and A. Goodwin (eds) (1990) On Record: Rock, Pop and the Written Word, Routledge, London.

A. Bennett, Popular Music and Youth Culture: Music, Identity and Place, Chapters 1 and 2 (11-51)

Week 1: British Pop in the 60s

READING:   Ian MacDonald, Revolution in the Head: The Beatles’ Records and the Sixties, ‘Introduction’ (1-33)

LISTENING:   Selections from   The Yardbirds, Roger the Engineer (1966)
The Beatles: Revolver (1966)
The Beatles, Sgt Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band (1967)
Cream, Disraeli Gears (1967)
The Small Faces, Ogden’s Nut Gone Flake (1967)
The Kinks, Village Green Preservation Society (1968)
Van Morrison, Astral Weeks (1968)
The Rolling Stones: Beggars Banquet (1968)
The Rolling Stones, Let it Bleed (1969)
The Who, Tommy (1969)

SCREENING: Selections from The Beatles Anthology,
The Rolling Stones Rock ‘n’ Roll Circus (1968)

Week 2: Blues Rock and Heavy Metal

READING: E. Berelian (2005), The Rough Guide to Heavy Metal, London, Rough Guides.

LISTENING:   Selections from   Free, All Right Now (1970)
Led Zeppelin II (1969)
Led Zeppelin IV (1971)
Black Sabbath, Paranoid (1971)   
Deep Purple, Made in Japan (1972)

SCREENING: The Song Remains the Same (1976)

Week 3: Progressive Rock

LISTENING:   Selections from   Soft Machine, Third (1970)
Yes, Close to the Edge (1972)
Genesis, Selling England by the Pound (1973)
Pink Floyd, Dark Side of the Moon (1973)
Henry Cow, Leg End (1973)
Pink Floyd, Wish you Were Here (1975)

READING: P. Stump (1997) The Music’s all that Matters: History of Progressive Rock, Quartet.

SCREENING: The Making of Dark Side of the Moon

Week 4: From Folk to Folk Rock

LISTENING: Selections from   Martin Carthy, Martin Carthy (1965)
Bert Jansch, Bert Jansch (1965)
Nick Drake, Five Leaves Left (1968)
Fairport Convention, Liege and Lief (1969)
Roy Harper, Flat Baroque and Berserk (1970)
Richard and Linda Thompson, I Want to See the Bright Lights Tonight (1974)
Billy Bragg, Talking with the Taxman about Politics (1986)   

READING: N. Mackinnon (1994) The British Folk Scene: Musical Performance and Social Identity, Open University Press, Buckingham.

SCREENING: Acoustic Routes

Week 5: Art Rock and Eccentricity

LISTENING: Selections from   Scott Walker, Scott 4 (1969)
Roxy Music, For Your Pleasure (1973)
Robert Wyatt, Rock Bottom (1974)
David Bowie, Heroes (1977)
Kate Bush, The Kick Inside (1978)
Brian Eno, Ambient: Music for Airports (1978)
Peter Gabriel III (1980)
Peter Gabriel IV (1982)

Week 6: Punk

LISTENING: Selections from   The Sex Pistols, Never Mind the Bollocks Here’s the Sex Pistols (1977)
The Clash, The Clash (1977)
Anti-Nowhere League, Anti-Nowhere League Punk Singles Collection

READING: J. Savage (2005), England’s Dreaming, Faber and Faber.

SCREENING:    Punk: Attitude (Dir. Don Letts, 2005)

FURTHER READING:
D. Hebdige (1985), Subculture: The Meaning of Style, London, Routledge.
D. Laing (1985) One Chord Wonders: Power and Meaning in Punk Rock, Open University Press, Milton Keynes.
Roger Sabin (ed.) (1999), Punk Rock, So What?: The Cultural Legacy of Punk, Routledge.

Week 7: Post-Punk and Pop

LISTENING: Selections from    Wire, Pink Flag (1977)
Gang of Four, Entertainment! (1979)
PIL, Metal Box (1979)
Japan, Quiet Life (1980)
Duran Duran, Duran Duran (1981)

READING: S. Reynolds (2006), Rip it up and Start Again: Post-Punk 1978-1984, Faber and Faber.

Week 8: Ska, Rude Boy, Two-Tone, Mod, Reggae and the Mainstream

LISTENING: Selections from    Elvis Costello, My Aim is True (1977)   
The Specials, The Specials (1979)   
Madness, One Step Beyond (1979)
The Police, Regatta de Blanc (1979)
The Jam, Sound Effects (1979)   
UB40, Signing Off (1980)

READING: D. Thompson (2004), 2 Tone, The Specials and the World in Flame: Wheels out of Gear, Helter Skelter.

E. Verguren (2004), This is a Modern Life: the 1980s Mod Scene, Helter Skelter.

D. Hebdige, ‘The Meaning of Mod’ in S. Hall and T. Jefferson (eds) Resistance Through Rituals: Youth Subcultures in Post-War Britain (1976)

D. Hebdige, ‘Reggae, Rastas and Rudies’ in S. Hall and T. Jefferson (eds) Resistance Through Rituals: Youth Subcultures in Post-War Britain (1976)


Week 9: From Manchester to Madchester

LISTENING:   Selections from    Joy Division, Unknown Pleasures (1979)
New Order, Power, Corruption and Lies (1983)
The Smiths, The Queen is Dead (1985)
The Stone Roses, The Stone Roses (1989)
Happy Mondays, Pills ‘n’ Thrills and Bellyaches (1990)

READING: D. Thompson and D. Sultan (2005), True Faith: An Armchair Guide to New Order, Joy Division, Electronic, Revenge, Monaco and The Other Two, Helter Skelter.

S. Goddard (2004), The Smiths: Songs that Saved Your Life, Reynolds and Hearn.

SCREENING: 24 Hour Party People (Dir. Michael Winterbottom)

Week 10: Soul and Dance

LISTENING: Selections from    Neneh Cherry, Raw Like Sushi (1988)
Soul II Soul, Club Classic Vol. 1 (1989)
Massive Attack, Blue Lines (1991)
Leftfield, Leftism (1995)

Week 11: Indie and Brit Pop

LISTENING: Selections from    Jesus & Mary Chain, Psychocandy (1985)
My Bloody Valentine, Loveless (1991)
Teenage Fanclub, Bandwagonesque (1991)   
Oasis, Definitely Maybe (1993)
Blur, Parklife (1994)
Pulp, Different Class (1995)

READING: J. Harris (2004), The Last Party: Britpop, Blair and the Demise of English Rock, London, Harper.

FURTHER READING

J.J. Beadle (1993) Will Pop Eat Itself?: Pop Music in the Sound Bite Era, Faber and Faber, London.
A. Bennett, B. Shank and J. Toynbee (eds), The Popular Music Studies Reader, London, Routledge 2005.
D. Bradley (1992) Understanding Rock ‘n’ Roll: Popular Music in Britain 1955-1964, Open University Press, Buckingham.
I. Chambers (1985) Urban Rhythms: Pop Music and Popular Culture, Macmillan, London.
Stanley Cohen (1987) Folk Devils and Moral Panics: The Creation of the Mods and Rockers, 3rd edn, Basil Blackwell, Oxford.
Sara Cohen (1991) Rock Culture in Liverpool: Popular Music in the Making, Clarendon Press, Oxford.
S. Frith (1983) Sound Effects: Youth, Leisure and the Politics of Rock, Constable, London.
S. Whitely (1992) The Space Between the Notes: Rock and the Counter-Culture, Routledge, London.
J. Lull (1992) Popular Music and Communication, 2nd edition, Sage, London.
P. Gilroy (1993) The Black Atlantic: Modernity and Double Consciousness, Verso, London.
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« Reply #233 on: April 25, 2006, 09:16:17 AM »
Quote from: "Gazoo"
Week 2: Blues Rock and Heavy Metal

READING: E. Berelian (2005), The Rough Guide to Heavy Metal, London, Rough Guides.

LISTENING:   Selections from   Free, All Right Now (1970)
Led Zeppelin II (1969)
Led Zeppelin IV (1971)
Black Sabbath, Paranoid (1971)   
Deep Purple, Made in Japan (1972)

SCREENING: The Song Remains the Same (1976)


Wow, imaging getting college credit for watching TSRTS...

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« Reply #234 on: April 25, 2006, 09:34:52 AM »
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Wow, imaging getting college credit for watching TSRTS...
"Does anybody remember LAHF-ter?"


Considering I fell asleep in the theater the first time I saw TSRTS, it wouldn't be all that different from my economics courses.
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« Reply #235 on: April 25, 2006, 09:20:10 PM »
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« Reply #236 on: April 26, 2006, 02:39:29 AM »
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Mark, you'll dig this posting from the ILM board


You betcha, especially weeks 6-9, which I never got to focus on academically back at UCSB.

I would SO love to give a week's lecture that featured the Stone Roses...
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« Reply #237 on: April 28, 2006, 03:31:53 PM »
Top 25 Bay Area songs of all time?

a debate in the Chron today:

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/04/28/DDGI2IFUCJ1.DTL
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« Reply #238 on: April 28, 2006, 03:52:01 PM »
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Top 25 Bay Area songs of all time?

a debate in the Chron today:

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/04/28/DDGI2IFUCJ1.DTL


I gave this a fuller description on the List Thread
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« Reply #239 on: April 28, 2006, 08:12:01 PM »
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Top 25 Bay Area songs of all time?

a debate in the Chron today:

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/04/28/DDGI2IFUCJ1.DTL


I gave this a fuller description on the List Thread


I'd forgotten we even had a "List Thread" (and no wonder, since it hadn't been touched since June 2005!).
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