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Title: Tues 5/24/05 -- Bob Dylan's B-Day!
Post by: RGMike on May 24, 2005, 07:54:24 AM
Dave sez it's a Dylan set, which kinda surprises me, I don't think they did this when he was 60 (and I wasn't here in May '91 for his 50th).  But when he's 64... they decide to do a tribute. Odd. Maybe KFOG has decided us geezers are a desirable demo.

In any case, I'd've loved to have heard mshray's "harmonica set".
Title: I'd like to hear
Post by: ggould on May 24, 2005, 08:22:16 AM
Pretenders "Forever Young"
Title: Re: Tues 5/24/05 -- Bob Dylan's B-Day!
Post by: mshray on May 24, 2005, 08:35:47 AM
Quote from: "RGMike"
Dave sez it's a Dylan set, which kinda surprises me, I don't think they did this when he was 60 (and I wasn't here in May '91 for his 50th).  But when he's 64... they decide to do a tribute. Odd. Maybe KFOG has decided us geezers are a desirable demo.

In any case, I'd've loved to have heard mshray's "harmonica set".


Well yesterday I called in my vote for Angel Bofill, and took a moment to ask Dave if he'd be doing anything for Dylan's b-day.  Dave was actually a bit chatty though and told me that it just depended on his mood when he prepares the set the night before.  I was hoping that he'd recall (without being reminded) my earlier request last week for a harmonica set.  My thinking was that if I just said I was the same guy who'd called it would come across as 'nagging' and defeat the purpose.  So I outsmarted myself & now we're getting a straight Dylan set, not that I'm complaining too much.
Title: Re: I'd like to hear
Post by: RGMike on May 24, 2005, 08:49:01 AM
Quote from: "ggould"
Pretenders "Forever Young"


indeed!

He called it an "all-Dylan" set but I suspect that includes covers. If so I'm sure we'll get Manfred Mann and Madeline Peyroux. Little Steven's tribute to Dylan Sunday nite was pretty fab and is available on his website. Highly recommended, as I seem to say every week.
Title: Tues 5/24/05 -- Bob Dylan's B-Day!
Post by: mshray on May 24, 2005, 08:56:42 AM
Anyone listening around 7:30 this morning when Fogheads were invited to call in with commencement speaker stories?  My tale was played back.
Title: Tues 5/24/05 -- Bob Dylan's B-Day!
Post by: urth on May 24, 2005, 09:43:33 AM
Quote from: "mshray"
Anyone listening around 7:30 this morning when Fogheads were invited to call in with commencement speaker stories?  My tale was played back.


Sorry, was out walking the dog at that hour. So spill it--what's yer story?
Title: going to miss it
Post by: ggould on May 24, 2005, 09:44:06 AM
meeting w/professor at 10.  Please leave copious notes about what was played!  Maybe even use the subject line?


I think Dave should play "Desolation Row" just to watch Gregg squirm!
Title: Re: going to miss it
Post by: RGMike on May 24, 2005, 09:48:28 AM
Quote from: "ggould"
meeting w/professor at 10.  Please leave copious notes about what was played!  Maybe even use the subject line?


I think Dave should play "Desolation Row" just to watch Gregg squirm!


I'm hoping for Loudon Wainwright's "Talking New Bob Dylan", which he wrote when Mr Zimmerman was 50. ( I guess "Lily, Rosemary & the Jack of Hearts" is out of the question.)
Title: Re: I'd like to hear
Post by: urth on May 24, 2005, 09:58:08 AM
Quote from: "RGMike"
Quote from: "ggould"
Pretenders "Forever Young"


indeed!

He called it an "all-Dylan" set but I suspect that includes covers. If so I'm sure we'll get Manfred Mann and Madeline Peyroux. Little Steven's tribute to Dylan Sunday nite was pretty fab and is available on his website. Highly recommended, as I seem to say every week.


If we're hearing covers, I'd love to hear Manfred Mann's version of You Angel You. Not holding my breath though.
Title: Tues 5/24/05 -- Bob Dylan's B-Day!
Post by: Beej on May 24, 2005, 09:59:29 AM
So, my roommate lent me her copy of Dylan Country- Dylan songs covered by country stars like Willie Nelson, Johnny Cash & Buck Owens.

I haven't listened to it yet. Is it any good?
Title: Tues 5/24/05 -- Bob Dylan's B-Day!
Post by: RGMike on May 24, 2005, 10:02:24 AM
Quote from: "Beej"
So, my roommate lent me her copy of Dylan Country- Dylan songs covered by country stars like Willie Nelson, Johnny Cash & Buck Owens.

I haven't listened to it yet. Is it any good?


By definition, it's gotta be good IMHO.
Title: Song #1 -- Like a Rolling Stone
Post by: Lightnin' Rod on May 24, 2005, 10:03:37 AM
My favorite Dylan tune (I'm a casual fan, so don't judge me too hard), so BOS.  Love the Hendrix version from the Monterey festival.  (I had the cassette -- side A is Otis Redding, side B Hendrix.  Just awesome.  Includes Otis covering "Satifaction," not really knowing the words, as if it mattered.)
Title: Tues 5/24/05 -- Bob Dylan's B-Day!
Post by: urth on May 24, 2005, 10:03:38 AM
Starting off with the song that got everyone all up in arms, Like A Rolling Stone. I'm wondering if this is a remastered version--for some reason I'm hearing the piano in the left channel much more clearly than I ever remember hearing it before.
Title: Tues 5/24/05 -- Bob Dylan's B-Day!
Post by: RGMike on May 24, 2005, 10:03:58 AM
Dylan trivia: "Napoleon in Rags" was a real person. Who was he?
Title: Tues 5/24/05 -- Bob Dylan's B-Day!
Post by: Alicat on May 24, 2005, 10:07:49 AM
Ahhh, the times they are a changin.......
how prophetic
Title: Tues 5/24/05 -- Bob Dylan's B-Day!
Post by: mshray on May 24, 2005, 10:08:38 AM
Quote from: "urth"
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Anyone listening around 7:30 this morning when Fogheads were invited to call in with commencement speaker stories?  My tale was played back.


Sorry, was out walking the dog at that hour. So spill it--what's yer story?


We had the pleasure of a visiting scholar address us for 45 minutes on the subject of "Proper Managment of the World's Ocean Resources".  The Dean of Students fell asleep in the front row on stage, and the only thing I can remember is towards the end when he said, "I'd also like to talk about proper management of the world's fresh water resources..." (and as he turned the page there was this totally audible sharp intake of breath from the audience) "...but time does not allow me to go into that here."  (and then there was an even more audible sigh of relief from the audience).

Dave asked me what school it was & I told him Pacific Lutheran University in Tacome WA & he said, "Go..., what was your team name?"
So I had to tell him we were the Lutes, and did our cheer:

Lutefisk, Lutefisk
Lefsa, Lefsa
We're the mighty Lutherans
Ya Sure Ya Betcha

special frink points to anyone who knows what lutefisk & lefsa are.
Title: #2 The Times the are a Changin'
Post by: Lightnin' Rod on May 24, 2005, 10:09:26 AM
Very nice.
Title: blow by blow (for Geoff)
Post by: urth on May 24, 2005, 10:09:54 AM
Like a Rolling Stone
The Times They Are A-Changin'
All Along the Watchtower
Title: Tues 5/24/05 -- Bob Dylan's B-Day!
Post by: Alicat on May 24, 2005, 10:11:27 AM
No complaints after first  three
Title: Tues 5/24/05 -- Bob Dylan's B-Day!
Post by: Lightnin' Rod on May 24, 2005, 10:11:42 AM
Quote from: "RGMike"
Dylan trivia: "Napoleon in Rags" was a real person. Who was he?


I think it's Andy Warhol.
Title: Tues 5/24/05 -- Bob Dylan's B-Day!
Post by: Beej on May 24, 2005, 10:12:19 AM
So, one of the freakiest covers of "All Along the Watchtower" I've ever heard was in a TV miniseries many years ago. Wild Palms.

Robert Morse plays an evil lounge singer (I know, I know- "Is there any other kind?") who at one point croons out a creepy, loungy-blue version.
Title: Tues 5/24/05 -- Bob Dylan's B-Day!
Post by: Alicat on May 24, 2005, 10:12:42 AM
Oh yeah, everybody must get stoned!
Title: Tues 5/24/05 -- Bob Dylan's B-Day!
Post by: urth on May 24, 2005, 10:12:47 AM
Quote from: "mshray"

special frink points to anyone who knows what lutefisk & lefsa are.


Lutefisk is a sort of cured whitefish that's favored by Scandinavians. Very popular in some areas of Seattle, Minnesota and other areas with a large Scandiavian community. From what I gather it's ghastly.

No clue about lefsa tho--so do I only get half a frink point?
Title: Tues 5/24/05 -- Bob Dylan's B-Day!
Post by: RGMike on May 24, 2005, 10:16:36 AM
Quote from: "Rod"
Quote from: "RGMike"
Dylan trivia: "Napoleon in Rags" was a real person. Who was he?


I think it's Andy Warhol.


You are correct, sir! I never knew that, but Little Steven (again) talked about it a few weeks back -- Edie Sedgwick had a crush on Dylan, who tried to get her away from the Warhol camp. He despised Warhol. And Edie inspired several Dylan tunes, including "Leopardskin Pillbox Hat".
Title: Tues 5/24/05 -- Bob Dylan's B-Day!
Post by: Alicat on May 24, 2005, 10:16:40 AM
Quote from: "urth"
Quote from: "mshray"

special frink points to anyone who knows what lutefisk & lefsa are.


Lutefisk is a sort of cured whitefish that's favored by Scandinavians. Very popular in some areas of Seattle, Minnesota and other areas with a large Scandiavian community. From what I gather it's ghastly.

No clue about lefsa tho--so do I only get half a frink point?

Must be another Scandinavian food product to accompany the fish.
Title: Tues 5/24/05 -- Bob Dylan's B-Day!
Post by: mshray on May 24, 2005, 10:16:55 AM
Quote from: "urth"
Quote from: "mshray"

special frink points to anyone who knows what lutefisk & lefsa are.


Lutefisk is a sort of cured whitefish that's favored by Scandinavians. Very popular in some areas of Seattle, Minnesota and other areas with a large Scandiavian community. From what I gather it's ghastly.

No clue about lefsa tho--so do I only get half a frink point?


No, you get a whole frink point, but the other frink point would've been yours if you knew that Lefsa is a kind of potato pancake, actually more like a tortilla.  Bland white food, that's what the Norsky's love.
Title: Tues 5/24/05 -- Bob Dylan's B-Day!
Post by: Lightnin' Rod on May 24, 2005, 10:17:12 AM
Quote from: "Beej"
So, one of the freakiest covers of "All Along the Watchtower" I've ever heard was in a TV miniseries many years ago. Wild Palms.

Robert Morse plays an evil lounge singer (I know, I know- "Is there any other kind?") who at one point croons out a creepy, loungy-blue version.


I LOVED that mini-series.  Robert Morse was awesome.  About half-way through, he gets killed.  Fortunately, they can re-create him holographically.  The head bad-guy comments "I like him better dead."  (Or words to that effect.)
Title: Tangled up in blue
Post by: Alicat on May 24, 2005, 10:17:32 AM
I've always liked this tune. Maybe because I can understand most of the lyrics.
Title: Re: Tangled up in blue
Post by: Lightnin' Rod on May 24, 2005, 10:20:04 AM
Quote from: "Alicat"
I've always liked this tune. Maybe because I can understand most of the lyrics.


A virtual Best of Dylan set.  Nothing very obscure yet.  Dave's probably saving something really out there for towards the end...
Title: Tues 5/24/05 -- Bob Dylan's B-Day!
Post by: Beej on May 24, 2005, 10:20:20 AM
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I LOVED that mini-series.

I should have known you woulda seen it, SciFi Rod! Yeah, it was pretty groovy.

Any TV miniseries that has Dana Delany, Bebe Neuwirth and Kim Cattrall all in one place can't be bad, that's fer sure.
Title: Tues 5/24/05 -- Bob Dylan's B-Day!
Post by: mshray on May 24, 2005, 10:21:22 AM
well we've heard all the usual suspects now with "Tangled Up In Blue".  What else is on tap?

I'm predicting "Subterranean Homesick Blues" & "Hurricane", but hoping for "Liliy, Rosemary & the Jack Of Hearts" or any other cut form Blood On The Tracks (except "Idiot Wind" of course).
Title: Re: Tangled up in blue
Post by: urth on May 24, 2005, 10:21:45 AM
Quote from: "Alicat"
I've always liked this tune. Maybe because I can understand most of the lyrics.


Great song, just hoping Dave digs a little deeper into *some* portion of Dylan's catalog.
Title: Tues 5/24/05 -- Bob Dylan's B-Day!
Post by: Lightnin' Rod on May 24, 2005, 10:23:06 AM
Quote from: "mshray"
well we've heard all the usual suspects now with "Tangled Up In Blue".  What else is on tap?

I'm predicting "Subterranean Homesick Blues" & "Hurricane", but hoping for "Liliy, Rosemary & the Jack Of Hearts" or any other cut form Blood On The Tracks (except "Idiot Wind" of course).


I'd like to hear "Mr. Tamborine Man," which I've renamed (in my mind) "Beej's Theme."

Sorry Beej. :lol:
Title: Re: Tangled up in blue
Post by: RGMike on May 24, 2005, 10:23:23 AM
Quote from: "Rod"
Quote from: "Alicat"
I've always liked this tune. Maybe because I can understand most of the lyrics.


A virtual Best of Dylan set.  Nothing very obscure yet.  Dave's probably saving something really out there for towards the end...


"you got a lotta nerve"... to think we'll hear something obscure :wink:

And no covers, either, apparently.  "4th Street" was the one that really opened my eyes, when I was about 13.
Title: Re: Tangled up in blue
Post by: urth on May 24, 2005, 10:24:03 AM
Quote from: "Rod"
Quote from: "Alicat"
I've always liked this tune. Maybe because I can understand most of the lyrics.


A virtual Best of Dylan set.  Nothing very obscure yet.  Dave's probably saving something really out there for towards the end...


Rod, I'd say this deserves a JINX!!

Maybe we'll hear Gotta Serve Somebody--I imagine hearing Tangled Up... puts the kibosh on any chance of hearing Lily, Rosemary et al.
Title: Tues 5/24/05 -- Bob Dylan's B-Day!
Post by: Beej on May 24, 2005, 10:25:29 AM
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I'd like to hear "Mr. Tamborine Man," which I've renamed (in my mind) "Beej's Theme."

LOL! That's OK- in my world? "Green Tambourine" is "Beej Tambourine"....

(not a Dylan song but thereyago)
Title: blow by blow part 2 (for Geoff)
Post by: urth on May 24, 2005, 10:25:32 AM
Rainy Day Women
Tangled Up in Blue
Positively 4th Street
Hurricane

(Hurricane may be as obscure as it gets, gang.)
Title: Tues 5/24/05 -- Bob Dylan's B-Day!
Post by: Alicat on May 24, 2005, 10:26:21 AM
Quote from: "mshray"
well we've heard all the usual suspects now with "Tangled Up In Blue".  What else is on tap?

I'm predicting "Subterranean Homesick Blues" & "Hurricane", but hoping for "Liliy, Rosemary & the Jack Of Hearts" or any other cut form Blood On The Tracks (except "Idiot Wind" of course).

Hurricane prediction comes true
Title: Tues 5/24/05 -- Bob Dylan's B-Day!
Post by: RGMike on May 24, 2005, 10:26:26 AM
BOS "Hurricane".  Tho' I'd've preferred "George Jackson".

Ladies & gentlemen: the CENSORED version.

"...had no idea what kinda fish was about to go down..."
Title: Tues 5/24/05 -- Bob Dylan's B-Day!
Post by: mshray on May 24, 2005, 10:28:38 AM
Quote from: "Alicat"
Quote from: "mshray"
well we've heard all the usual suspects now with "Tangled Up In Blue".  What else is on tap?

I'm predicting "Subterranean Homesick Blues" & "Hurricane", but hoping for "Liliy, Rosemary & the Jack Of Hearts" or any other cut form Blood On The Tracks (except "Idiot Wind" of course).

Hurricane prediction comes true


Actually what I really want to hear (and now I'm pushing my telepathic luck for sure) is "Mozambique".
Title: Tues 5/24/05 -- Bob Dylan's B-Day!
Post by: RGMike on May 24, 2005, 10:31:00 AM
Quote from: "mshray"
Quote from: "Alicat"
Quote from: "mshray"
well we've heard all the usual suspects now with "Tangled Up In Blue".  What else is on tap?

I'm predicting "Subterranean Homesick Blues" & "Hurricane", but hoping for "Liliy, Rosemary & the Jack Of Hearts" or any other cut form Blood On The Tracks (except "Idiot Wind" of course).

Hurricane prediction comes true


Actually what I really want to hear (and now I'm pushing my telepathic luck for sure) is "Mozambique".


oo! I'll second that!  You know the story about that, don'cha? It was on its way to becoming Dylan's biggest single in years, but then war broke out in Mozambique and radio stations stopped playing it. It stalled out in the 50s or so in Billboard.
Title: Tues 5/24/05 -- Bob Dylan's B-Day!
Post by: Beej on May 24, 2005, 10:32:23 AM
You can say "bitch" and that n-word- but you can't say "shit" on the radio.
Title: Tues 5/24/05 -- Bob Dylan's B-Day!
Post by: urth on May 24, 2005, 10:36:52 AM
Quote from: "Beej"
You can say "bitch" and that n-word- but you can't say "shit" on the radio.


As Dave said last week when I commented on the censored version of Fight the Power. "$10,000 fine. Blame the religious right.
Title: Tues 5/24/05 -- Bob Dylan's B-Day!
Post by: Alicat on May 24, 2005, 10:37:39 AM
Quote from: "urth"
Quote from: "Beej"
You can say "bitch" and that n-word- but you can't say "shit" on the radio.


As Dave said last week when I commented on the censored version of Fight the Power. "$10,000 fine. Blame the religious right.

No sh!% ??? Blame it on Howard Stern!
Title: Tues 5/24/05 -- Bob Dylan's B-Day!
Post by: Beej on May 24, 2005, 10:39:19 AM
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No sh!% ??? Blame it on Howard Stern!

No, thanks. I'd still rather blame the Religious Right.
Title: Tues 5/24/05 -- Bob Dylan's B-Day!
Post by: Lightnin' Rod on May 24, 2005, 10:39:55 AM
Quote from: "Beej"
You can say "bitch" and that n-word- but you can't say "shit" on the radio.


I thought that exact same thing when the n-word came up...
Title: blow by blow part 3 (for Geoff)
Post by: urth on May 24, 2005, 10:40:04 AM
Subterranean Homesick Blues
Silvio
Forever Young (the only song that has probably never appeared in a 10@10 before this)
Title: Tues 5/24/05 -- Bob Dylan's B-Day!
Post by: mshray on May 24, 2005, 10:40:45 AM
Quote from: "RGMike"

oo! I'll second that!  You know the story about that, don'cha? It was on its way to becoming Dylan's biggest single in years, but then war broke out in Mozambique and radio stations stopped playing it. It stalled out in the 50s or so in Billboard.


Yep, my favorite all-time #54 song, beating out "And She Was" & "Let's Spend The Night Together".

The war was caused indirectly by the overthrow in Portugal of the world's last fascist regime (originally a puppet of Spain's Franco), and the subsequent withdrawal of all colonial government infrastructures from Angola, Cape Verde & Mozambique.  The Angolan situation is still a mess 30 years on.
Title: Re: blow by blow part 3 (for Geoff)
Post by: RGMike on May 24, 2005, 10:41:42 AM
Quote from: "urth"
Silvio


Of course, Little Steven played this one Sun nite for obvious reasons :wink:
Title: Tues 5/24/05 -- Bob Dylan's B-Day!
Post by: RGMike on May 24, 2005, 10:43:14 AM
10-way Tie? What will Big Rick play?? all 10???
Title: Tues 5/24/05 -- Bob Dylan's B-Day!
Post by: Beej on May 24, 2005, 10:48:25 AM
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You can say "bitch" and that n-word- but you can't say "shit" on the radio.

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I thought that exact same thing when the n-word came up...

The Religious Right: Sure a few women & coloreds might be offended. But, darn it- we've got to protect the kids from profanity. I mean, they hear it on the streets, in their homes and on the playgrounds- why should we subject them to it in music?!

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

That last part was me.
Title: Tues 5/24/05 -- Bob Dylan's B-Day!
Post by: RGMike on May 24, 2005, 11:10:14 AM
Stuck around for the "bonus track":  "It's Alright Ma..." Nice choice Annalisa!
Title: Re: blow by blow part 3 (for Geoff)
Post by: ggould on May 24, 2005, 11:33:14 AM
Quote from: "urth"
Subterranean Homesick Blues
Silvio
Forever Young (the only song that has probably never appeared in a 10@10 before this)
kinda ironic that Robert Hunter wrote the lyrics for Silvio!  Did Dave mention that?

And thank you kindly for the blow by blow.  I walked into and out of campus with Desolation Row on my iPod to keep in the spirit, as I parked the car with Like a Rolling Stone blaring, and me wailing out the window!

rap song?:

Once upon a time
You looked so fine, didn't you?
Title: Re: blow by blow part 3 (for Geoff)
Post by: RGMike on May 24, 2005, 11:42:08 AM
Quote from: "ggould"
I parked the car with Like a Rolling Stone blaring, and me wailing out the window!

rap song?:

Once upon a time
You looked so fine, didn't you?


there was indeed a rap version (done as a sort of joke, it seemed to me) about a dozen years ago by a group called The Mystery Tramps.
Title: Re: blow by blow part 3 (for Geoff)
Post by: ggould on May 24, 2005, 12:00:38 PM
Quote from: "RGMike"
Quote from: "ggould"
I parked the car with Like a Rolling Stone blaring, and me wailing out the window!

rap song?:

Once upon a time
You looked so fine, didn't you?


there was indeed a rap version (done as a sort of joke, it seemed to me) about a dozen years ago by a group called The Mystery Tramps.
I looked on iTunes, didn't find the Mystery Tramps, but did find covers by Dino, Desi, and Billy; Micael Bolton; Young Rascals; Judy Collins, The Undisputed Truth; Robyn Hitchcock.

I have vinyl at home of Rotary Connection (w/Minnie Ripperton) doing a cover, and I'd love to find that cassette that I've got a great vesion of Spirit doing it (from their Spirit of '76 album)

Anyone else got a favorite LARS cover?
Title: the list
Post by: ggould on May 24, 2005, 12:25:45 PM
5/24/05 - Tuesday!  It's Bob Dylan's Birthday!!

Like a Rolling Stone
Times They Are a Changin'
All Along the Watchtower
Rainy Day Women 12 & 35
Tangled Up in Blue
Positively 4th Street
Hurricane
Subterranian Homesick Blues
Silvio
Forever Young
Title: digging the replay
Post by: ggould on May 24, 2005, 10:41:29 PM
ironic that in Hurricane, they had to edit 'shit' but it's OK to say the n-word.

[upon further review, you all apparently caught this earlier!]

also at the back sell, no mention of Dylan not writing Silvio.
Title: Re: blow by blow part 3 (for Geoff)
Post by: ggould on May 24, 2005, 10:48:07 PM
Quote from: "urth"
Subterranean Homesick Blues
Silvio
Forever Young (the only song that has probably never appeared in a 10@10 before this)
That wild and wacky Dylan!  Two totally different versions of Forever Young on the same album!
Title: Tues 5/24/05 -- Bob Dylan's B-Day!
Post by: Gazoo on May 24, 2005, 10:51:14 PM
Caught the replay.  (I'd been on jury duty the past two days, hence my absence from real-time interplay.)  Hard to knock any of Dave's choices, though from this set you'd not know he's recorded in the past 25 years, and so I kind of which Dave had included "Jokerman" and "Things Have Changed" for historical overview.

Mike: How did "Hurricane" do in the NYC market when it came out?  I can't imagine NY/NJ cops took kindly to being called out, and NY in general doesn't seem to like anything that disparages the police ...

Gaz, who isn't much of a "Mozambique" fan, though that just might be the only chart hit with both a "z" and a "q" in the title.
Title: Re: blow by blow part 3 (for Geoff)
Post by: Gazoo on May 24, 2005, 10:52:20 PM
Quote from: "ggould"
Quote from: "urth"
Subterranean Homesick Blues
Silvio
Forever Young (the only song that has probably never appeared in a 10@10 before this)
That wild and wacky Dylan!  Two totally different versions of Forever Young on the same album!

And Dave's played "Forever Young" at least once before; it's on a 1974 set that Alicat recorded for me a year or two ago.  :)
Title: Tues 5/24/05 -- Bob Dylan's B-Day!
Post by: RGMike on May 25, 2005, 07:43:09 AM
Quote from: "Gazoo"
Caught the replay.  (I'd been on jury duty the past two days, hence my absence from real-time interplay.)  Hard to knock any of Dave's choices, though from this set you'd not know he's recorded in the past 25 years, and so I kind of which Dave had included "Jokerman" and "Things Have Changed" for historical overview.

Mike: How did "Hurricane" do in the NYC market when it came out?  I can't imagine NY/NJ cops took kindly to being called out, and NY in general doesn't seem to like anything that disparages the police ...

Gaz, who isn't much of a "Mozambique" fan, though that just might be the only chart hit with both a "z" and a "q" in the title.


Id've liked "Things Have Changed" too (kinda expected it, in fact). But "Silvio" is from '88, so... 17 years.  "Hurricane" got a great deal of prog FM play at the time, but Top 40 didn't go near it.  Same with "George Jackson" a few years earlier -- there's a lost Top 40 hit that needs to be unearthed!
Title: Tues 5/24/05 -- Bob Dylan's B-Day!
Post by: Gazoo on May 25, 2005, 08:17:41 AM
I've never heard "George Jackson," sad to admit.  Didn't know "Silvio" was '88 -- I had assumed early '80s since I associate it with "Jokerman" and "Brownsville Girl" (idiosyncratic, but there you have it).
Title: Tues 5/24/05 -- Bob Dylan's B-Day!
Post by: mshray on May 25, 2005, 08:21:32 AM
Well I now have the answer to a question we've all asked:  What does Big Rick do for the BOS Replay when there's a ten-way tie?

Dave actually recorded a bit for Rick, where he said that there was a ten-way tie but after some discussion they decided that one song really deserved an extra listen, and it was...

"Silvio"
Title: Tues 5/24/05 -- Bob Dylan's B-Day!
Post by: RGMike on May 25, 2005, 08:28:48 AM
Quote from: "Gazoo"
I've never heard "George Jackson," sad to admit.  Didn't know "Silvio" was '88 -- I had assumed early '80s since I associate it with "Jokerman" and "Brownsville Girl" (idiosyncratic, but there you have it).


"George Jackson" was one of his most political songs in ages at that time ('72) and I was amazed that it got as high as #33...

I woke up this mornin',
There were tears in my bed.
They killed a man I really loved
Shot him through the head.
Lord, Lord, They cut George Jackson down.
Lord, Lord, They laid him in the ground.
Sent him off to prison
For a seventy-dollar robbery.
Closed the door behind him
And they threw away the key.
Lord, Lord, They cut George Jackson down.
Lord, Lord, They laid him in the ground.
He wouldn't take shit from no one
He wouldn't bow down or kneel.
Authorities, they hated him
Because he was just too real.
Lord, Lord, They cut George Jackson down.
Lord, Lord, They laid him in the ground.
Prison guards, they cursed him
As they watched him from above
But they were frightened of his power
They were scared of his love.
Lord, Lord,  So they cut George Jackson down.
Lord, Lord,  They laid him in the ground.
Sometimes I think this whole world
Is one big prison yard.
Some of us are prisoners
The rest of us are guards.
Lord, Lord, They cut George Jackson down.
Lord, Lord, They laid him in the ground.
Title: Dylan Recommendations
Post by: Alicat on May 25, 2005, 09:15:27 AM
I don't have a single Dylan CD. Maybe a copy of Blood on the Tracks somewhere, not sure. What are your top recommendations of "necessary" Dylan?
Title: Re: Dylan Recommendations
Post by: urth on May 25, 2005, 09:20:58 AM
Quote from: "Alicat"
I don't have a single Dylan CD. Maybe a copy of Blood on the Tracks somewhere, not sure. What are your top recommendations of "necessary" Dylan?

 
Besides BoTT:

Blonde on Blonde
Highway 61
Desire
Or just get Biograph for a good overview.

I'm sure you'll get a dozen other recommendations, but those are high on my list.
Title: Re: Dylan Recommendations
Post by: RGMike on May 25, 2005, 09:33:02 AM
Quote from: "urth"
Quote from: "Alicat"
I don't have a single Dylan CD. Maybe a copy of Blood on the Tracks somewhere, not sure. What are your top recommendations of "necessary" Dylan?

 
Besides BoTT:

Blonde on Blonde
Highway 61
Desire
Or just get Biograph for a good overview.

I'm sure you'll get a dozen other recommendations, but those are high on my list.


"New Morning" is a personal fave, one that doesn't get much mention. And "Nashville Skyline" for Johnny Cash alone.  But yeah, "Biograph" is probably the way to go.  urth, is "Watching the River Flow" on "Biograph"?  One of the best singles ever to peak at #41 (at least I think it peaked there).
Title: Re: Dylan Recommendations
Post by: ggould on May 25, 2005, 09:39:27 AM
Quote from: "Alicat"
I don't have a single Dylan CD. Maybe a copy of Blood on the Tracks somewhere, not sure. What are your top recommendations of "necessary" Dylan?
Number one should be Highway 61 Revisited, but is not all-emcompassing by a long shot.  The first Greatest Hits set is pretty good is scanning over the era from the beginning to Blonde on Blonde, but leaves so much out, it's hard to say.  Even though I would say his stuff declined after Blonde on Blonde, he had lots of great moments throughout his career.  Nashville Skyline is funny and tender at the same time.  

Too many good songs, I give up!
Title: Re: Dylan Recommendations
Post by: urth on May 25, 2005, 09:41:56 AM
Quote from: "RGMike"
Quote from: "urth"
Or just get Biograph for a good overview.

I'm sure you'll get a dozen other recommendations, but those are high on my list.


"New Morning" is a personal fave, one that doesn't get much mention. And "Nashville Skyline" for Johnny Cash alone.  But yeah, "Biograph" is probably the way to go.  urth, is "Watching the River Flow" on "Biograph"?  One of the best singles ever to peak at #41 (at least I think it peaked there).


Don't think it is, which is a glaring omission as it is indeed a great song regardless of chart position. I remember being quite thrilled the one time I saw Dylan perform it, in Eugene in '87 with the Dead.
Title: Tues 5/24/05 -- Bob Dylan's B-Day!
Post by: mshray on May 25, 2005, 09:55:29 AM
Ali, I can make you a copy of Biograph & Blood On The Tracks.

btw, Dylan shares May 24th birthdays with Tommy Chong & Queen Victoria, as well as Priscilla Presley, Gary 'Radar' Burghoff & Patti LaBelle.
Title: Tues 5/24/05 -- Bob Dylan's B-Day!
Post by: Alicat on May 25, 2005, 02:42:44 PM
Quote from: "mshray"
Ali, I can make you a copy of Biograph & Blood On The Tracks.


and I say THANK YOU! I accept.
Title: Tues 5/24/05 -- Bob Dylan's B-Day!
Post by: urth on May 25, 2005, 03:53:17 PM
Quote from: "mshray"
Ali, I can make you a copy of Biograph & Blood On The Tracks.


Hey, wasn't Biograph the first major retrospective boxed set? They seem so common now, but at the time I remember thinking, wow, only a big fan is going to feel like they have to have that. Little did I know how many Big Fans there were out there.

So I'll throw this out for discussion: what was your first boxed set? Mine was the Springsteen Live box that came out in time for Xmas 86, I think.
Title: Tues 5/24/05 -- Bob Dylan's B-Day!
Post by: RGMike on May 25, 2005, 04:01:19 PM
Quote from: "urth"
I'll throw this out for discussion: what was your first boxed set? Mine was the Springsteen Live box that came out in time for Xmas 86, I think.


Mine too! (the vinyl version, of course)
Title: prehistoric box sets
Post by: ggould on May 25, 2005, 04:03:43 PM
Quote from: "urth"
Quote from: "mshray"
Ali, I can make you a copy of Biograph & Blood On The Tracks.


Hey, wasn't Biograph the first major retrospective boxed set? They seem so common now, but at the time I remember thinking, wow, only a big fan is going to feel like they have to have that. Little did I know how many Big Fans there were out there.

So I'll throw this out for discussion: what was your first boxed set? Mine was the Springsteen Live box that came out in time for Xmas 86, I think.
Does my ancient box set of Jimi Hendrix vinyl LP's count?  I believe they're German or UK Polydor label.  I have no idea; that was a long time ago.
Title: Tues 5/24/05 -- Bob Dylan's B-Day!
Post by: Beej on May 25, 2005, 04:06:30 PM
My first box set would be the uber-awesome DEVO collection: Pioneers Who Got Scalped.

Well, OK- it's only 2 CDs- but they cram a LOT on there! And the cover of the CD case is in 3D! How cool is that?
Title: Tues 5/24/05 -- Bob Dylan's B-Day!
Post by: mshray on May 25, 2005, 04:11:50 PM
Quote from: "urth"

So I'll throw this out for discussion: what was your first boxed set? Mine was the Springsteen Live box that came out in time for Xmas 86, I think.


Mine was Clapton's Crossroads, and a year later I got the Allman's Dreams.  I didn't get Biograph until after that.   But I don't think the Bruce really counts, it was not primarily marketed as a CD collection, nor was it a career retrospective.

Here's what Allmusic has to say about it:

Crossroads not only revitalized Clapton's commercial standing, but it established the rock & roll multi-disc box set retrospective as a commercially viable proposition. Bob Dylan's Biograph was successful two years before the release of Crossroads, but Clapton's set was a bona fide blockbuster.
Title: Tues 5/24/05 -- Bob Dylan's B-Day!
Post by: urth on May 25, 2005, 04:37:58 PM
Quote from: "RGMike"
Quote from: "urth"
I'll throw this out for discussion: what was your first boxed set? Mine was the Springsteen Live box that came out in time for Xmas 86, I think.


Mine too! (the vinyl version, of course)


Yep, vinyl here too. Didn't get a CD player for another year and a half.
Title: Re: blow by blow part 3 (for Geoff)
Post by: urth on May 25, 2005, 05:09:26 PM
Quote from: "Gazoo"
Quote from: "ggould"
Quote from: "urth"
Subterranean Homesick Blues
Silvio
Forever Young (the only song that has probably never appeared in a 10@10 before this)
That wild and wacky Dylan!  Two totally different versions of Forever Young on the same album!

And Dave's played "Forever Young" at least once before; it's on a 1974 set that Alicat recorded for me a year or two ago.  :)


By no small coincidence, I made this discovery last night as well, while going thru some cassettes of 10@10s I hadn't looked at for awhile. December 10, 2003 I think mine was--I'd completely forgotten (not surprising).
Title: Tues 5/24/05 -- Bob Dylan's B-Day!
Post by: Gazoo on May 25, 2005, 08:54:47 PM
Quote from: "urth"
So I'll throw this out for discussion: what was your first boxed set? Mine was the Springsteen Live box that came out in time for Xmas 86, I think.


On cassette: Paul Revere & the Raiders.

On CD: Marvin Gaye.

Weirdly, I hardly own any box sets.  Marvin, Billie Holiday, Bessie Smith (both of which I bought for research and barely play), Steely Dan, and Buddah Records are the only boxes I own.
Title: Tues 5/24/05 -- Bob Dylan's B-Day!
Post by: urth on May 25, 2005, 11:08:34 PM
Quote from: "mshray"
Quote from: "urth"

So I'll throw this out for discussion: what was your first boxed set? Mine was the Springsteen Live box that came out in time for Xmas 86, I think.


But I don't think the Bruce really counts, it was not primarily marketed as a CD collection, nor was it a career retrospective.



Uhhh, it came in a box, and it's a set of four vinyl discs. I always assumed that made it a boxed set.
Title: Tues 5/24/05 -- Bob Dylan's B-Day!
Post by: Alicat on May 25, 2005, 11:12:52 PM
Not sure. I want to say Bruce too but I'm sure my Bruce was a set of cassettes. My vinyl is boxed up in the rafters in the garage. I keep thinking about getting it down to go through but never seem to get to it.
Title: Tues 5/24/05 -- Bob Dylan's B-Day!
Post by: Lightnin' Rod on May 26, 2005, 08:37:44 AM
Quote from: "urth"
Quote from: "mshray"
Ali, I can make you a copy of Biograph & Blood On The Tracks.


Hey, wasn't Biograph the first major retrospective boxed set? They seem so common now, but at the time I remember thinking, wow, only a big fan is going to feel like they have to have that. Little did I know how many Big Fans there were out there.

So I'll throw this out for discussion: what was your first boxed set? Mine was the Springsteen Live box that came out in time for Xmas 86, I think.


Hmmm, does Neil Young's "Decade" count?  If so, then that would be it, a 3 record set on vinyl.

Otherwise, either the Allman Bros Dreams or Clapton Crossroads on Cassette.  Can't remember which came first.
Title: Tues 5/24/05 -- Bob Dylan's B-Day!
Post by: Lightnin' Rod on May 26, 2005, 08:41:51 AM
Quote from: "mshray"
Mine was Clapton's Crossroads, and a year later I got the Allman's Dreams.  


How do you remember this stuff?  Anything that I did more than a month or so in the past becomes all muddled and intermixed.  Do you keep a diary?
Title: Tues 5/24/05 -- Bob Dylan's B-Day!
Post by: mshray on May 26, 2005, 01:12:19 PM
Quote from: "Rod"
Quote from: "mshray"
Mine was Clapton's Crossroads, and a year later I got the Allman's Dreams.  


How do you remember this stuff?  Anything that I did more than a month or so in the past becomes all muddled and intermixed.  Do you keep a diary?


No but I used to move around A LOT, so If I have a place-specific memory (and especially an apartment-specific memory) that usually narrows things down to less than a 12 month period.  So I know I had Clapton while still living in San Diego, but it only came out in 1988, and I had the Allmans in my first apartment in Santa Barbara, so that had to be 1989.

(between age 16 & 28 I never lived at any single address for as much as 12 months consecutively).