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Title: New Pope
Post by: mshray on April 19, 2005, 09:15:29 AM
The White Smoke is issuing forth & the bells are ringing.  After only 4 votes a new Pope has been selected, but we still don't know which Cardinal it is.
Title: New Pope
Post by: mshray on April 19, 2005, 09:25:03 AM
fwiw, I guess only Cardinal Ratzinger could have been selected that fast.  He'd been JPII's right hand man & main theoretical/philosophical partner in all of his edicts.  He was also directly involved in elevating over 80% of today's Cardinals.  He's in his seventies so he won't be around forever, but he is not the guy likely to in any way modernize church thinking during his tenure.
Title: New Pope
Post by: mshray on April 19, 2005, 09:29:11 AM
Last bit of speculation...I also don't see how any new Pope, particularly if it's Ratzinger, could take any other name than John Paul III.
Title: New Pope
Post by: urth on April 19, 2005, 09:53:26 AM
Quote from: "mshray"
Last bit of speculation...I also don't see how any new Pope, particularly if it's Ratzinger, could take any other name than John Paul III.


You're right but only partly:

According to SFGate: Yes, it's Ratzinger. But he's chosen the name Pope Benedict XVI. Huh?!?!?

And he's 78, so you're probably right in that he won't be around nearly as long as his predecessor.
Title: New Pope
Post by: mshray on April 19, 2005, 09:56:16 AM
Quote from: "urth"
Quote from: "mshray"
Last bit of speculation...I also don't see how any new Pope, particularly if it's Ratzinger, could take any other name than John Paul III.


You're right but only partly:

According to SFGate: Yes, it's Ratzinger. But he's chosen the name Pope Benedict XVI. Huh?!?!?

And he's 78, so you're probably right in that he won't be around nearly as long as his predecessor.


I am sitting in my hotel room watching the news & after I posted that last note I heard one of the analysts saying that this was a possibility because Benendict XV was a great unifier & clarifier of doctrine earlier last century (not sure of his dates).
Title: New Pope
Post by: RGMike on April 19, 2005, 09:57:36 AM
Nobody expects the... German Inquisition ?!?
Title: New Pope
Post by: mshray on April 19, 2005, 10:13:22 AM
FYI, here's what found about Pope Benedict XV (1914-1922):

Born Giacomo della Chiesa in Pegli, Italy, 1854; died Rome, Italy, 1922. Nuncio to Spain, privy chamberlain, Archbishop of Bologna, and cardinal, he was elected directly after the outbreak of the World War, and maintained a position of neutrality throughout. He sent a representative to each country to work for peace, and in 1917 delivered the Plea for Peace, which demanded a cessation of hostilities, a reduction of armaments, a guaranteed freedom of the seas, and international arbitration. President Wilson was the only ruler who answered him, declaring peace impossible, though he afterwards adopted most of Benedict's proposals for establishing peace. At the close of the war France and Spain resumed diplomatic relations with the Vatican, and Great Britain retained permanently the embassy she had established during the war. Benedict promulgated the new Code of Canon Law, established the Coptic College at Rome, enlarged the foreign mission field, and in his first Encyclical condemned errors in modern philosophical systems. He denounced the violation of Belgium and gave freely to the victims of the war, widows, orphans, and wounded, and established a bureau of communication for prisoners of war with their relatives.
Title: New Pope
Post by: Gazoo on April 19, 2005, 10:14:35 AM
Quote from: "urth"
Quote from: "mshray"
Last bit of speculation...I also don't see how any new Pope, particularly if it's Ratzinger, could take any other name than John Paul III.


You're right but only partly:

According to SFGate: Yes, it's Ratzinger. But he's chosen the name Pope Benedict XVI. Huh?!?!?

And he's 78, so you're probably right in that he won't be around nearly as long as his predecessor.

Presumably, after JPII had such a long and eventful and travel-heavy run ("Il Papa was a rolling stone," as it were), they want someone who'll sit on his tookas and do nothing, giving the Church a period of respite.

Not that this does humanity any good.  But I am reminding myself of the wise words of Harlem: don't hate the playas, hate the game.
Title: New Pope
Post by: RGMike on April 19, 2005, 10:50:57 AM
Quote from: "Gazoo"
I am reminding myself of the wise words of Harlem: don't hate the playas, hate the game.


in this case the playas have the power to change the game, but won't. So hell YEAH I hate them too.

"Meet the new Pope
Same as the old Pope"
Title: New Pope
Post by: RGMike on April 19, 2005, 08:06:02 PM
A bit late, as the "election" is over, but pretty freakin' hilarious:

http://www.drewmarlowe.com/pictures/brackets.jpg
Title: New Pope
Post by: RGMike on April 20, 2005, 07:44:12 AM
and Mark Morford, bless his soul, chimes in:

http://www.sfgate.com/columnists/morford/
Title: New Pope
Post by: Gazoo on April 20, 2005, 07:55:19 AM
Virgin Mary appears in underpass stain:

http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/04/20/mary.underpass.ap/index.html

If that's what we're reduced to for signs of the divine, then we need a whole lotta healing.

On the other hand, this quote from a CNN article is grounds for hope:

"Nearly three-quarters of American Catholics say they are more likely to follow their own conscience on 'difficult moral questions,' rather than the teachings of the new pope, according to a CNN/USA Today/Gallup Poll conducted after the pontiff's election."
Title: New Pope
Post by: RGMike on April 20, 2005, 08:03:26 AM
Quote from: "Gazoo"
Virgin Mary appears in underpass stain:

http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/04/20/mary.underpass.ap/index.html

If that's what we're reduced to for signs of the divine, then we need a whole lotta healing.


devout Catholics are not exactly known for their creativity...
Title: New Pope
Post by: Beej on April 20, 2005, 08:47:45 AM
The first German pope was Gregory the V in the late 900s. He's mentioned in my play.

I used to hang out at a board called Fametracker. But, then that closed. Some of the survivors formed a board I now ang out at called SnarkFest. During the last days at Fametracker I happened to create these 2 pictures: Jesus Hangs Out w/the Olsen Twns & Jesus Does Leno. Yesterday, a SnakFestian was commenting on how funny they were and so the moderator of the board asked me to create something about the new pope.

I came up with this: "Joseph's first few weeks at the new job were great. And his supervisor was a pretty cool guy. Until one day..." (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/beej/ratzinger01.jpg)
Title: New Pope
Post by: princessofcairo on April 20, 2005, 08:55:00 AM
i don't think popes should have names other than pope pious or pope perpetual grease, or something like that. i think a pope named ratslinger takes all of the mystique out of catholocism.

was it a tps report, beej?
Title: New Pope
Post by: Beej on April 20, 2005, 08:58:51 AM
TPS: Totally Pious Suckers

Ah, but, technically, his name ain't Ratzinger anymore. He's Benedict.

Of course, in America- a name like 'Benedict' won't get you very far.
Title: New Pope
Post by: RGMike on April 20, 2005, 08:59:44 AM
Quote from: "Beej"
The first German pope was Gregory the V in the late 900s. He's mentioned in my play.

I used to hang out at a board called Fametracker. But, then that closed. Some of the survivors formed a board I now ang out at called SnarkFest. During the last days at Fametracker I happened to create these 2 pictures: Jesus Hangs Out w/the Olsen Twns & Jesus Does Leno. Yesterday, a SnakFestian was commenting on how funny they were and so the moderator of the board asked me to create something about the new pope.

I came up with this: "Joseph's first few weeks at the new job were great. And his supervisor was a pretty cool guy. Until one day..." (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/beej/ratzinger01.jpg)


Great stuff, Mr Beej . High-larious!
Title: New Pope
Post by: princessofcairo on April 20, 2005, 09:01:30 AM
Quote from: "Beej"
TPS: Totally Pious Suckers

Ah, but, technically, his name ain't Ratzinger anymore. He's Benedict.

Of course, in America- a name like 'Benedict' won't get you very far.


that's true. he might as well be named mohammed. or pope turque XI.
Title: New Pope
Post by: RGMike on April 20, 2005, 09:13:01 AM
Quote from: "princessofcairo"
Quote from: "Beej"
TPS: Totally Pious Suckers

Ah, but, technically, his name ain't Ratzinger anymore. He's Benedict.

Of course, in America- a name like 'Benedict' won't get you very far.


that's true. he might as well be named mohammed. or pope turque XI.


Pope Tupac? Pope LeBron? Pope Ol' Dirty Bastard?
Title: New Pope
Post by: Beej on April 20, 2005, 09:15:05 AM
D'oh. I forgot to actually show you these...

Jesus Hangs w/the Olsen Twins (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/beej/jesusolsens.jpg)

Jesus Does Leno (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/beej/jesusleno.jpg)

Thanks, Mike!
Title: New Pope
Post by: princessofcairo on April 20, 2005, 09:18:28 AM
Quote from: "Beej"
D'oh. I forgot to actually show you these...

Jesus Hangs w/the Olsen Twins (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/beej/jesusolsens.jpg)

Jesus Does Leno (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/beej/jesusleno.jpg)

Thanks, Mike!


it's so wrong. the way i feel. about the olsen twins.
Title: New Pope
Post by: Beej on April 20, 2005, 09:18:36 AM
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Pope Ol' Dirty Bastard?

That would be Pope John XIII (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_John_XIII).

(a member of the dastardly House of Theophylact- which figures prominantly in my play).

"Pope Mohammed" kinda has a nice ring to it, though. Sort of like "Father Leibowitz".
Title: New Pope
Post by: Beej on April 20, 2005, 09:22:19 AM
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it's so wrong. the way i feel. about the olsen twins.

You certainly aren't alone. They're cute & all but they don't really gun my motor as much as, say, Michelle Trachtenberg. 2 of her would probably kill me.

Speaking of hot babes & the internet- I'm testing a new photo-hosting service. Click on the thumbnails below to access super-big pics of the delightful Ms Jones that I discovered while trolling yesterday...

(http://img151.echo.cx/img151/444/zjones6pq7ub.th.jpg) (http://img151.echo.cx/my.php?image=zjones6pq7ub.jpg)

(http://img98.echo.cx/img98/8347/zjones21ez3dh.th.jpg) (http://img98.echo.cx/my.php?image=zjones21ez3dh.jpg)

(isn't it great that in a thread about the new pope you can see pics of CZJ?)
Title: New Pope
Post by: RGMike on April 20, 2005, 09:38:08 AM
Quote from: "Beej"
Speaking of hot babes & the internet- I'm testing a new photo-hosting service. Click on the thumbnails below to access super-big pics of the delightful Ms Jones that I discovered while trolling yesterday...

(http://img151.echo.cx/img151/444/zjones6pq7ub.th.jpg) (http://img151.echo.cx/my.php?image=zjones6pq7ub.jpg)

(http://img98.echo.cx/img98/8347/zjones21ez3dh.th.jpg) (http://img98.echo.cx/my.php?image=zjones21ez3dh.jpg)

(isn't it great that in a thread about the new pope you can see pics of CZJ?)


T-Mobile ... get more (cleavage)!
Title: New Pope
Post by: Beej on April 20, 2005, 09:45:09 AM
That'd be great if they did a commercial where CZJ kicks the Verizon Guy squwa' in the NUTS! (thank you, Eric Cartman).

"Can you hear me n-OOOFFF!"
Title: New Pope
Post by: RGMike on April 20, 2005, 09:49:09 AM
Quote from: "Beej"
That'd be great if they did a commercial where CZJ kicks the Verizon Guy squwa' in the NUTS! (thank you, Eric Cartman).

"Can you hear me n-OOOFFF!"


and then CZJ and Sprint Guy have hot monkey sex!  (Excuse me, I need to take a cold shower...)
Title: New Pope
Post by: princessofcairo on April 20, 2005, 09:49:27 AM
heaven. i'm in heaven.
Title: New Pope
Post by: Beej on April 20, 2005, 09:57:18 AM
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and then CZJ and Sprint Guy have hot monkey sex! (Excuse me, I need to take a cold shower...)

Now, that's a "telecom merger" I can understand.

Yeah, the Sprint Guy is cool. And in real life- he's married to Terry Farrell. Lucky, lucky man.
Title: too much makeup
Post by: ggould on April 20, 2005, 11:38:12 AM
Quote from: "Beej"
Speaking of hot babes & the internet- I'm testing a new photo-hosting service. Click on the thumbnails below to access super-big pics of the delightful Ms Jones that I discovered while trolling yesterday...
Just old fashioned me I guess.  I never understood why someone so pretty needs all that makeup!
Title: Re: too much makeup
Post by: princessofcairo on April 20, 2005, 11:39:44 AM
Quote from: "ggould"

Just old fashioned me I guess.  I never understood why someone so pretty needs all that makeup![/quote]

she's an actress! she's acting!
i think the non made-up beauty is reserved for friends and family.
Title: New Pope
Post by: RGMike on April 20, 2005, 12:33:41 PM
back to the subject at hand -- Assmussen on the Papal Conclave:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2005/04/20/DDASMUSSENBR.DTL
Title: New Pope
Post by: mshray on April 21, 2005, 10:11:28 AM
Quote from: "Beej"

(http://img151.echo.cx/img151/444/zjones6pq7ub.th.jpg) (http://img151.echo.cx/my.php?image=zjones6pq7ub.jpg)

(isn't it great that in a thread about the new pope you can see pics of CZJ?)


Beej, you need to photoshop the text on POC's avatar's t-shirt onto this one's nightgown!
Title: New Pope
Post by: princessofcairo on April 21, 2005, 10:44:31 AM
Quote from: "mshray"

Beej, you need to photoshop the text on POC's avatar's t-shirt onto this one's nightgown!


nay, nay, nay, my friend. no need to f**k with perfection. or if so, just put it on her chest. ;)
Title: New Pope
Post by: Beej on April 21, 2005, 10:46:16 AM
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nay, nay, nay, my friend. no need to f**k with perfection. or if so, just put it on her chest.

In that dress it may be my only option! But, as POC says- why mess with perfection?!
Title: New Pope
Post by: RGMike on April 21, 2005, 02:42:23 PM
Maybe CZJ would like to email the Pope:

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2005/04/21/international/i061818D54.DTL
Title: New Pope
Post by: princessofcairo on April 21, 2005, 02:48:40 PM
Quote from: "RGMike"
Maybe CZJ would like to email the Pope:

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2005/04/21/international/i061818D54.DTL


the french are screwed! no benoitxvi@vatican't.fr for them!
Title: New Pope
Post by: princessofcairo on April 21, 2005, 03:37:47 PM
Quote from: "RGMike"
Maybe CZJ would like to email the Pope:


(hoping to finish the song in a couple of hours)

i drink and cuss and smoke and sex, gamble, steal, and all the rest, you know?
sometimes we'll do anything to keep from finding the straight and narrow
if i confessed online to benny, he'd call me a virtual sinner
but, by golly, my mama said i was a winner
Title: New Pope
Post by: RGMike on April 21, 2005, 08:07:03 PM
Quote from: "princessofcairo"
the french are screwed! no benoitxvi@vatican't.fr for them!


It's jiggery-popery, I tells ya!

Or in this case, zhiggerez-potpourri, non?
Title: New Pope
Post by: princessofcairo on April 21, 2005, 10:48:01 PM
Quote from: "RGMike"


It's jiggery-popery, I tells ya!

Or in this case, zhiggerez-potpourri, non?


nice!!
Title: New Pope
Post by: Beej on April 26, 2005, 09:01:18 AM
I've decided the 'New Pope' thread should also be a place for pics of hot people (pics of baseball-guy's butts can go here, too)....

Fortunately, this pic has vaguely religious overtones to stay somewhat on topic.

Maria Sharapova is The Alpha and The Omega.
(http://img56.echo.cx/img56/6107/mariasharapova2005fhm100sexies.th.jpg) (http://img56.echo.cx/my.php?image=mariasharapova2005fhm100sexies.jpg)
Title: New Pope
Post by: Gazoo on April 26, 2005, 10:01:58 AM
Quote from: "Beej"
I've decided the 'New Pope' thread should also be a place for pics of hot people (pics of baseball-guy's butts can go here, too)....

Fortunately, this pic has vaguely religious overtones to stay somewhat on topic.

Maria Sharapova is The Alpha and The Omega.
(http://img56.echo.cx/img56/6107/mariasharapova2005fhm100sexies.th.jpg) (http://img56.echo.cx/my.php?image=mariasharapova2005fhm100sexies.jpg)


Take, eat: this is her, um, body.
Title: New Pope
Post by: Lightnin' Rod on April 26, 2005, 11:17:24 AM
Quote from: "Beej"
I've decided the 'New Pope' thread should also be a place for pics of hot people (pics of baseball-guy's butts can go here, too)....

Fortunately, this pic has vaguely religious overtones to stay somewhat on topic.


All the picks you've posted so far have been vaguely religious experiences for me.

Do you take requests?  Maybe Jenny Finch?  She plays softball, which my not satisfy our baseball fans out there, but it's a nod in their direction... :lol:
Title: New Pope
Post by: Anonymous on April 26, 2005, 11:39:48 AM
Jenny Finch? I'll see what I can do. With luck I'll have something for you sometime after 12:30pm today.
Title: New Pope
Post by: Beej on April 26, 2005, 11:45:35 AM
OK. I forgot to log in that time.

And I've actually found something.

Someone with a lot of time on their hands did some video screen captures from a Spike TV program about some Sports Illustrated photoshoot this pitcher with some serious pulchritude participated in.

Behold! Pinchably cute she is.
(http://img109.echo.cx/img109/2375/jfinchsi2005dl3qr1cg.th.jpg) (http://img109.echo.cx/my.php?image=jfinchsi2005dl3qr1cg.jpg)
Title: Jon Carrol on the new pope:
Post by: Lightnin' Rod on April 27, 2005, 09:27:09 AM
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2005/04/27/DDG27BCCUL1.DTL
Title: Religious experience for Beej!
Post by: Lightnin' Rod on April 27, 2005, 09:59:22 AM
(http://chrisd054.home.att.net/elsab/bandw/original/bw06.jpg)

http://www.km02.com/elsab/
Title: New Pope
Post by: Beej on May 03, 2005, 10:27:01 AM
Mama Mia!

Or, as the new German Pope might say: "Ach, du Leiber!"
Title: New Pope
Post by: Beej on May 04, 2005, 09:37:18 AM
Speaking of "Mia"- here's "Princess Mia" herself, Anne Hathaway.

No one woman should be this pretty:
(http://img228.echo.cx/img228/1792/pichireswork028nl1gj.th.jpg) (http://img228.echo.cx/my.php?image=pichireswork028nl1gj.jpg)
Title: New Pope
Post by: Beej on June 17, 2005, 09:38:11 AM
Tura Satana!

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2005/06/17/DDGTID9BDD1.DTL

I've seen Faster Pussycat, Kill! Kill. It may not be the height of cinema- but it's got it's moments.
Title: New Pope
Post by: RGMike on June 17, 2005, 09:52:59 AM
Quote from: "Beej"
Tura Satana!

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2005/06/17/DDGTID9BDD1.DTL

I've seen Faster Pussycat, Kill! Kill. It may not be the height of cinema- but it's got it's moments.


I think it's one of the most overrated "cult" films ever. But then I feel that way about Russ Meyer generally.  (tho' I admit I've never seen Beyond the Valley of the Dolls.)
Title: New Pope
Post by: Beej on June 17, 2005, 09:56:59 AM
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(tho' I admit I've never seen Beyond the Valley of the Dolls.)

Quite possibly his best film, really. It has something that resembles a plot.

Pussycat is definitely a rental. Just fast forward when it gets too lame.