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Main Discussion Area => Regional 10@10's across the time zones! => Topic started by: RGMike on August 13, 2007, 08:01:39 AM
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Ms King feels the earth move and so do I! BOS to a fine TOTHC
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That flute can mean only one thing: BOS2 Tull.
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BOS3 Woody and Howard Cosell, in Bananas.
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VHM Yes, seeing all good peeps. and another BOS Nilsson, "Without You".
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"Crush phallic imperialism!" --- LOL!
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BOS5 Moodies, washing all our heartaches away.
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Was Nilsson's "Without You" the first power ballad? Or do we give that crown to "Hey Jude"? Or something else?
BOS to Carole, Harry, and now the Moodies' "Story in Your Eyes," welcome anytime.
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Wow, I miss the days when Rod brought something to the table when he covered a song. When did those days end? I'll be generous and say '84.
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Was Nilsson's "Without You" the first power ballad? .
I always think of "Power ballad" as meaning a ballad done by an otherwise hard-rockin' band. I don't think the term even came into use until the '80s.
So, did Rod Stewart and Rare Earth each know the other was recording "I"m Losin' You"? Just an amazing coincidence?
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Was Nilsson's "Without You" the first power ballad? Or do we give that crown to "Hey Jude"? Or something else?
BOS to Carole, Harry, and now the Moodies' "Story in Your Eyes," welcome anytime.
Dang, missed a lot already.
I've never known what the definition of a power ballad was. When someone sez this or that is a power ballad I can agree, but if you asked me to determine which is or isn't by myself (as per your question) I'm lost.
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Here's your Misty, Mike!
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YES! Big BOS to the Cornelius Brothers and Sister Rose (And Then They Sat Back Down), "Treat Her Like a Lady." What a fantastic arrangement. Another one I've done in karaoke to successful effect.
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seg of the week (so far): lurid Play Misty For Me trailer into "Treat Her Like a Lady". LOL!
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"Treat Her Like a Lady." ... Another one I've done in karaoke to successful effect.
That's scarier than the Play Misty trailer!
"Sooo afffecshunally"
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Was Nilsson's "Without You" the first power ballad? Or do we give that crown to "Hey Jude"? Or something else?
BOS to Carole, Harry, and now the Moodies' "Story in Your Eyes," welcome anytime.
Dang, missed a lot already.
I've never known what the definition of a power ballad was. When someone sez this or that is a power ballad I can agree, but if you asked me to determine which is or isn't by myself (as per your question) I'm lost.
In my mind, the definition is a song that has a ballad's pacing and dramaturgy but adds in hard-rock elements like loud guitars and yelled vocals. But yeah, it's murky.
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Wow, I miss the days when Rod brought something to the table when he covered a song. When did those days end? I'll be generous and say '84.
Where once he brought something to the table, now he brings himself to the buffet table.
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seg of the week (so far): lurid Play Misty For Me trailer into "Treat Her Like a Lady". LOL!
ditto, likewise, agreed, etc.
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BOS this (new, I think) deodorant montage -- nice work, Bob!
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mmmmm...stew for breakfast! this has been a fabulous set, esp considering it's Monday..
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mmmmm...stew for breakfast! this has been a fabulous set, esp considering it's Monday..
...and especially welcome for me as I'll be in meetings & appointments from 9:00 onwards.
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and we close (?) everso tastefully with the Mighty Zep, smokin' their stuff and drinkin' all their wine.
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In my mind, the definition is a song that has a ballad's pacing and dramaturgy but adds in hard-rock elements like loud guitars and yelled vocals. But yeah, it's murky.
Wiki sez:
Format
Typically, a power ballad begins with a soft keyboard or acoustic guitar introduction. Heavy drums and distorted electric guitars don't enter into the arrangement until the chorus or even later in the song. The electric guitar parts usually take the form of simple root/fifth power chords which sustain until the next chord change, but screaming, melodic guitar solos are also important markers of this genre. The interplay throughout the arrangement between "clean" timbres and distorted ones is crucial to the creation of emotional tension in the power ballad aesthetic.
History
Power ballads initially came into popularity at the insistence of a record company in hope of scoring a Top Forty hit, and in the genre's formative years were written only grudgingly by band members. However in recent years, power ballads have been re-imagined as something "authentic" rather than something "manufactured" (i.e. pushed onto bands by record labels)[citation needed]. In any event, power ballads were often a band's most (or only) commercially successful songs. Because of the perceived superficiality of their sentiment, though, power ballads were consistently despised by music critics, who rejected the way metal musicians actively borrowed the musical codes normally reserved for more "authentic" styles of rock.
An important precursor for the form was The Carpenters' "Goodbye to Love" single in 1972, which featured a fuzz-tone screaming guitar solo (by Tony Peluso) situated next to a "middle of the road" vocal.
Power ballads originated in the 1970s with power pop band The Raspberries and arena rock bands like Styx, Boston, REO Speedwagon, Journey, Def Leppard, Queen, and heavy metal pioneers Scorpions. Early examples of power ballads are "Don't Wanna Say Goodbye" from the Raspberries' debut album in 1972, The Raspberries, Styx's "Lady" from their 1973 album Styx II. As a solo artist, Raspberries lead singer and chief songwriter Eric Carmen continued to contribute to the genre by creating the #2 hit "All By Myself" in 1976.
In the 1980s, rock, hard rock and heavy metal bands began to climb the Billboard charts with power ballads, while MTV rotation fueled their popularity. Bonnie Tyler's "Total Eclipse of the Heart" charted in 1983, Scorpions' "Still Loving You" and Night Ranger's "Sister Christian" both charted in 1984, as did Dokken's "Alone Again" in 1985. Prince's "Purple Rain" stands as a prime example of a 1980s power ballad from a genre other than metal.
By the mid 1980s, the rise in popularity of the power ballad was signified with MTV's most requested video for four months straight, "Home Sweet Home" by Mötley Crüe, released in 1985 on the Theatre of Pain album. Many consider it the defining power ballad of the 1980s.
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Was Nilsson's "Without You" the first power ballad? Or do we give that crown to "Hey Jude"? Or something else?
BOS to Carole, Harry, and now the Moodies' "Story in Your Eyes," welcome anytime.
Dang, missed a lot already.
I've never known what the definition of a power ballad was. When someone sez this or that is a power ballad I can agree, but if you asked me to determine which is or isn't by myself (as per your question) I'm lost.
In my mind, the definition is a song that has a ballad's pacing and dramaturgy but adds in hard-rock elements like loud guitars and yelled vocals. But yeah, it's murky.
And it sometimes builds to a powerful-if-not-overwrought finish. There's a Genesis song called Afterglow (from the early post-Gabriel era, circa '77) that fits this description, to name just one.
Been trying to think of a power ballad that precedes Without You. Nothing so far.