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Title: Ides of March (Tuesday 3/15)
Post by: mshray on March 15, 2005, 10:02:48 AM
1982 with the Members, not snoring yet
Title: Ides of March (Tuesday 3/15)
Post by: Alicat on March 15, 2005, 10:03:37 AM
Did we just have three 82 topic posts, all deleted and now one reposted?
Title: triple topic suicide
Post by: ggould on March 15, 2005, 10:03:48 AM
pretty funny, eh?
Title: Ides of March (Tuesday 3/15)
Post by: Beej on March 15, 2005, 10:04:08 AM
Y'know, this is the first time I've really, really listened to the lyrics of "Working Girl".

This guy's no gentleman at all. I'm just saying.
Title: Ides of March (Tuesday 3/15)
Post by: RGMike on March 15, 2005, 10:04:30 AM
Indeed, a VHM. This is a Narada for me -- don't recall it from the period.

why did Geoff delete his original thread?
Title: Ides of March (Tuesday 3/15)
Post by: mshray on March 15, 2005, 10:05:55 AM
Quote from: "RGMike"
Indeed, a VHM. This is a Narada for me -- don't recall it from the period.

why did Geoff delete his original thread?


He & I both did , then I quickly reposted.

"Working Girl" was played on all the new wave stations I listened to then.
Title: original thread
Post by: ggould on March 15, 2005, 10:05:57 AM
Quote from: "RGMike"
Indeed, a VHM. This is a Narada for me -- don't recall it from the period.

why did Geoff delete his original thread?
I didn't feel my thread was worthy, since I didn't know the  first song.  I think it's funny we all killed our  opening topics at the same time!
Title: Re: original thread
Post by: RGMike on March 15, 2005, 10:07:36 AM
Quote from: "ggould"
I didn't feel my thread was worthy


appropriate, then, that the 2nd song is "Psychobabble"...
Title: Re: original thread
Post by: mshray on March 15, 2005, 10:09:09 AM
Quote from: "ggould"
Quote from: "RGMike"
Indeed, a VHM. This is a Narada for me -- don't recall it from the period.

why did Geoff delete his original thread?
I didn't feel my thread was worthy, since I didn't know the  first song.  I think it's funny we all killed our  opening topics at the same time!


I deleted mine as soon as I saw Geoff's 'cuz I had the sense that he doesn't usually kick these off.

I'm giving the Alan Parsons Project another HM, but maybe not quite a VHM.
Title: Ides of March (Tuesday 3/15)
Post by: Alicat on March 15, 2005, 10:10:32 AM
It's all psychobabble to me.
Title: Ides of March (Tuesday 3/15)
Post by: Gazoo on March 15, 2005, 10:13:36 AM
Snooze to the Fixx.  Glad I missed "Working Girl," such weird condescension there.  Expecting to get "Everywhere I'm Not" or "Belly of the Whale" since Dave's getting his modern-rock swerve on today.
Title: Ides of March (Tuesday 3/15)
Post by: Beej on March 15, 2005, 10:15:12 AM
Alas, I have to give an Honorable Flashback to The Fixx cuz it takes me back. Of course- a lot of songs in the '80-'83 region tend to do that.
Title: Ides of March (Tuesday 3/15)
Post by: Gazoo on March 15, 2005, 10:15:34 AM
VHM to "Marianne, Marianne" -- I know it teeters toward Katrina territory, but this also teeters toward Perfect Pop Song territory.
Title: Ides of March (Tuesday 3/15)
Post by: princessofcairo on March 15, 2005, 10:15:54 AM
always enjoy "psychobabble," but i think i'll give my early bos vote to "marianne."
Title: Ides of March (Tuesday 3/15)
Post by: Gazoo on March 15, 2005, 10:16:09 AM
P.S.  Beej, I am frightened by your new avatar.  Is he meant to ward off evil?
Title: Ides of March (Tuesday 3/15)
Post by: Alicat on March 15, 2005, 10:16:32 AM
Quote from: "Gazoo"
VHM to "Marianne, Marianne" -- I know it teeters toward Katrina territory, but this also teeters toward Perfect Pop Song territory.

BLECH. I take ownership of the crankypants today.
Title: Ides of March (Tuesday 3/15)
Post by: mshray on March 15, 2005, 10:16:40 AM
In the Red Skies video one of the band members was wearing a t-shirt that I also had at that time, a white shirt with a large red cross on it, with a few roses and a bunch of black silhouettes of B-52 bombers arranged in a grid superimposed over it.  There was another more obscure video that also had someone wearing the shirt, but I onlyheard about it second hand.  I was quite the New Wave-styled guy at the time.

Very obscure Fixx trivia:  what was the first name they recorded under in the UK?
Title: Ides of March (Tuesday 3/15)
Post by: mshray on March 15, 2005, 10:17:49 AM
Quote from: "Gazoo"
P.S.  Beej, I am frightened by your new avatar.  Is he meant to ward off evil?


it is evil icarnate!
Title: Ides of March (Tuesday 3/15)
Post by: RGMike on March 15, 2005, 10:18:39 AM
Quote from: "Gazoo"
VHM to "Marianne, Marianne" -- I know it teeters toward Katrina territory, but this also teeters toward Perfect Pop Song territory.


I agree -- and am pleasantly surprised. I thought your Gazkypants didn't much care for Mr Crenshaw.
Title: Ides of March (Tuesday 3/15)
Post by: urth on March 15, 2005, 10:19:17 AM
BOS1, Townshend's Exquisitely Bored. Love "All the best Cowboys..."--his best solo work by a long shot.

Back to overwork-week day 2.
Title: Ides of March (Tuesday 3/15)
Post by: RGMike on March 15, 2005, 10:19:34 AM
BOS Pete. Exquisitely Bored in California indeed.
Title: Ides of March (Tuesday 3/15)
Post by: princessofcairo on March 15, 2005, 10:19:35 AM
next bos: pete!
Title: Ides of March (Tuesday 3/15)
Post by: Beej on March 15, 2005, 10:20:22 AM
Hee! My avatar is none other than the murderous "He Who Kills"! The bizarre Zuni doll that Karen Black receives as a gift in the 70's TV movie classic: Trilogy of Terror!

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/beej/trilogy11.jpg)
Title: Ides of March (Tuesday 3/15)
Post by: Alicat on March 15, 2005, 10:20:56 AM
Quote from: "RGMike"
BOS Pete. Exquisitely Bored in California indeed.

This is a new one for me. Really.
Title: Ides of March (Tuesday 3/15)
Post by: mshray on March 15, 2005, 10:24:12 AM
Quote from: "Gazoo"
Snooze to the Fixx.  Glad I missed "Working Girl," such weird condescension there.  Expecting to get "Everywhere I'm Not" or "Belly of the Whale" since Dave's getting his modern-rock swerve on today.


Burning Sensations are '83, but it's too bad Dave can't do a Members/Burning Sensations twin-spin.
Title: Ides of March (Tuesday 3/15)
Post by: RGMike on March 15, 2005, 10:24:15 AM
Quote from: "princessofcairo"
next bos: pete!


It occurs to me for the first time that this song is something of an Eagles parody/commentary.
Title: Ides of March (Tuesday 3/15)
Post by: mshray on March 15, 2005, 10:25:32 AM
Quote from: "Beej"
Hee! My avatar is none other than the murderous "He Who Kills"! The bizarre Zuni doll that Karen Black receives as a gift in the 70's TV movie classic: Trilogy of Terror!

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/beej/trilogy11.jpg)


I remember seeing that!  Wow, what a great pop culture reference that is!
Title: Ides of March (Tuesday 3/15)
Post by: urth on March 15, 2005, 10:25:50 AM
Quote from: "Gazoo"
P.S.  Beej, I am frightened by your new avatar.  Is he meant to ward off evil?


It looks like one of David Lindley's self-portraits.
Title: Ides of March (Tuesday 3/15)
Post by: princessofcairo on March 15, 2005, 10:25:59 AM
Quote from: "RGMike"
Quote from: "princessofcairo"
next bos: pete!


It occus to me for the first time that this song is something of an Eagles parody/commentary.


example.
Title: Ides of March (Tuesday 3/15)
Post by: Gazoo on March 15, 2005, 10:26:22 AM
Quote from: "RGMike"
Quote from: "Gazoo"
VHM to "Marianne, Marianne" -- I know it teeters toward Katrina territory, but this also teeters toward Perfect Pop Song territory.


I agree -- and am pleasantly surprised. I thought your Gazkypants didn't much care for Mr Crenshaw.

No, I dig just about everything I've heard from him.  Actually, I thought it was POC who didn't like MC.

Should have seen Missing Persons coming.  Would like this even better if she didn't cheapen herself with that Betty Boop bullshit.
Title: Ides of March (Tuesday 3/15)
Post by: RGMike on March 15, 2005, 10:27:37 AM
Quote from: "princessofcairo"
Quote from: "RGMike"
Quote from: "princessofcairo"
next bos: pete!


It occus to me for the first time that this song is something of an Eagles parody/commentary.


example.


no, not a parody of a specific song, just of their whole attitude.
Title: Ides of March (Tuesday 3/15)
Post by: princessofcairo on March 15, 2005, 10:29:20 AM
Quote from: "Gazoo"

No, I dig just about everything I've heard from him.  Actually, I thought it was POC who didn't like MC.

Should have seen Missing Persons coming.  Would like this even better if she didn't cheapen herself with that Betty Boop bullshit.


it is i, indeed. don't know what it is about that song today, though.

gaz is quite the feminist this morning.
Title: Ides of March (Tuesday 3/15)
Post by: princessofcairo on March 15, 2005, 10:30:00 AM
Quote from: "RGMike"


no, not a parody of a specific song, just of their whole attitude.


oh...that makes sense.

yay - phil collins! and his horns!
Title: Ides of March (Tuesday 3/15)
Post by: Alicat on March 15, 2005, 10:30:03 AM
arrrrrggggh, Genesis. Will the torture never stop?
Title: Ides of March (Tuesday 3/15)
Post by: RGMike on March 15, 2005, 10:31:22 AM
Quote from: "Gazoo"
Should have seen Missing Persons coming.  Would like this even better if she didn't cheapen herself with that Betty Boop bullshit.


paging Cyndi Lauper... Gwen Stefani... Madonna...
Title: the Zappa connection
Post by: ggould on March 15, 2005, 10:32:25 AM
I was sitting there thinking BOS for Saga, and wondered why I like it so (I actually have the vinyl), and it seemed kinda Zappa-esque at times, but more fluid.  And, then, if I'm not mistaken, the next song was Missing Persons, with ex-Zappa drummer Terry Bozzio!
Title: Ides of March (Tuesday 3/15)
Post by: urth on March 15, 2005, 10:33:24 AM
Quote from: "Alicat"
arrrrrggggh, Genesis. Will the torture never stop?


My, Alicat is wearing the crankypants today, isn't she? I guess we all have our days....

And considering it's the Phil Collins Band, who could blame her?
Title: Ides of March (Tuesday 3/15)
Post by: Beej on March 15, 2005, 10:33:26 AM
Flashback I Coulda Done Without: Phil Collins.

Heh. I loved "Jenny 867-5309" back in '82. Fond memories.
Title: Ides of March (Tuesday 3/15)
Post by: RGMike on March 15, 2005, 10:33:53 AM
Quote from: "princessofcairo"
yay - phil collins! and his horns!


Shirley you jest.

"Paper Plate, Paper Plate..."
Title: Ides of March (Tuesday 3/15)
Post by: Gazoo on March 15, 2005, 10:34:28 AM
"Jenny Jenny, you're the girl for me
... you make me so ____________"

There's no way "happy" was the original lyric.  Methinks a label gelding suggested a word switch to avoid offending.
Title: Ides of March (Tuesday 3/15)
Post by: Alicat on March 15, 2005, 10:34:59 AM
Quote from: "Beej"
Flashback I Coulda Done Without: Phil Collins.

For a good time call 867-5309.

OK, something I do like.
Title: Ides of March (Tuesday 3/15)
Post by: mshray on March 15, 2005, 10:35:14 AM
one of my all-time favorite 80's lyrical nuggets:

"I tried my imagination, but I was disturbed."

trivia answer fwiw, the Fixx started out as....

...The Portraits
Title: Ides of March (Tuesday 3/15)
Post by: princessofcairo on March 15, 2005, 10:35:33 AM
Quote from: "RGMike"
Quote from: "princessofcairo"
yay - phil collins! and his horns!


Shirley you jest.

"Paper Plate, Paper Plate..."


not one bit. remember - i was five.
Title: Ides of March (Tuesday 3/15)
Post by: Beej on March 15, 2005, 10:35:43 AM
Mshray sayeth:
Quote
I remember seeing that! Wow, what a great pop culture reference that is!

Thanks! Over at the Television Without Pity forums there's the "Scarred For Life" thread where people talk about freaky shit they see on TV. Lil Zuni (as I dubbed him) gets a lot of discussion. Every now & then I'd post a tiny pic of him to scare people. Heh.
Title: Ides of March (Tuesday 3/15)
Post by: mshray on March 15, 2005, 10:35:55 AM
and here's the Translator Joe asked for.
Title: Ides of March (Tuesday 3/15)
Post by: Gazoo on March 15, 2005, 10:35:56 AM
Quote from: "RGMike"
Quote from: "Gazoo"
Should have seen Missing Persons coming.  Would like this even better if she didn't cheapen herself with that Betty Boop bullshit.


paging Cyndi Lauper... Gwen Stefani... Madonna...


All of whom sound better when they're not vocalizing like 13 year old anime bubbleheads.
Title: Ides of March (Tuesday 3/15)
Post by: Gazoo on March 15, 2005, 10:37:20 AM
Quote from: "mshray"
and here's the Translator Joe asked for.

So of course I shall give it BOS.

Even though I hate it when Tokyo is pronounced with three syllables (pet peeve).
Title: Ides of March (Tuesday 3/15)
Post by: Davefish on March 15, 2005, 10:37:40 AM
Quote from: "Beej"
Flashback I Coulda Done Without: Phil Collins.

Heh. I loved "Jenny 867-5309" back in '82. Fond memories.

I'm there with you.  It gets the MCOS (Most College of Set) award from me.
Title: Ides of March (Tuesday 3/15)
Post by: RGMike on March 15, 2005, 10:37:50 AM
Quote from: "mshray"
and here's the Translator Joe asked for.


It's Dave's '82 New Wave Greatest Katrinas on Parade!
Title: Ides of March (Tuesday 3/15)
Post by: Beej on March 15, 2005, 10:38:27 AM
Quote
"Jenny Jenny, you're the girl for me
... you make me so ____________"

There's no way "happy" was the original lyric. Methinks a label gelding suggested a word switch to avoid offending.

(Beej trying to think of dirty words that rhyme with "me"...)
Title: Ides of March (Tuesday 3/15)
Post by: Gazoo on March 15, 2005, 10:39:28 AM
Quote from: "Beej"
Quote
"Jenny Jenny, you're the girl for me
... you make me so ____________"

There's no way "happy" was the original lyric. Methinks a label gelding suggested a word switch to avoid offending.

(Beej trying to think of dirty words that rhyme with "me"...)


"For me / Horny"
Title: Ides of March (Tuesday 3/15)
Post by: princessofcairo on March 15, 2005, 10:39:44 AM
Quote from: "Gazoo"


Even though I hate it when Tokyo is pronounced with three syllables (pet peeve).


like i prefer moscow pronounced with three syllables instead of two.
Title: Ides of March (Tuesday 3/15)
Post by: Beej on March 15, 2005, 10:39:46 AM
Quote
I'm there with you. It gets the MCOS (Most College of Set) award from me.

I was a junior in high school myself.
Title: Ides of March (Tuesday 3/15)
Post by: Gazoo on March 15, 2005, 10:41:01 AM
Quote from: "princessofcairo"
Quote from: "Gazoo"


Even though I hate it when Tokyo is pronounced with three syllables (pet peeve).


like i prefer moscow pronounced with three syllables instead of two.


Huh?  You mean, "Mos-c-cow," like "Cha-ka-Khan"?  I'm confused.
Title: Ides of March (Tuesday 3/15)
Post by: RGMike on March 15, 2005, 10:41:45 AM
Quote from: "Gazoo"
I hate it when Tokyo is pronounced with three syllables (pet peeve).


Toke, Yo!
Title: Ides of March (Tuesday 3/15)
Post by: Beej on March 15, 2005, 10:42:12 AM
Quote
"For me / Horny"

Oh, yeah. OK. That works. Ah, those were innocent times. Now? "Horny" is considered downright polite.

OK, not really- but now I have that goddamn "Horny" song stuck in my head. Y'know, that one that woman sings? You know.
Title: Ides of March (Tuesday 3/15)
Post by: mshray on March 15, 2005, 10:43:22 AM
Quote from: "Gazoo"
Quote from: "mshray"
and here's the Translator Joe asked for.

So of course I shall give it BOS.

Even though I hate it when Tokyo is pronounced with three syllables (pet peeve).


Something I never pulled out of this song, but according to Allmusic they are mourning the loss of John Lennon in these lyrics.
Title: Ides of March (Tuesday 3/15)
Post by: princessofcairo on March 15, 2005, 10:43:52 AM
Quote from: "Gazoo"

Huh?  You mean, "Mos-c-cow," like "Cha-ka-Khan"?  I'm confused.


:) the proper pronunciation is "mus-ko-vah." which sort of rhymes with chaka khan.  i bet she'd make an attractive little nikita.
Title: Ides of March (Tuesday 3/15)
Post by: mshray on March 15, 2005, 10:44:36 AM
Quote from: "Beej"
Quote
"For me / Horny"

Oh, yeah. OK. That works. Ah, those were innocent times. Now? "Horny" is considered downright polite.

OK, not really- but now I have that goddamn "Horny" song stuck in my head. Y'know, that one that woman sings? You know.


You mean the one with the sample from Full Metal Jacket?  
"me so horny, me luv you long time"
Title: I thought it was pronounced Musk-va
Post by: ggould on March 15, 2005, 10:45:35 AM
Quote from: "princessofcairo"
Quote from: "Gazoo"

Huh?  You mean, "Mos-c-cow," like "Cha-ka-Khan"?  I'm confused.


:) the proper pronunciation is "mus-ko-vah." which sort of rhymes with chaka khan.  i bet she'd make an attractive little nikita.
Title: Ides of March (Tuesday 3/15)
Post by: Beej on March 15, 2005, 10:47:05 AM
No, I think the song with the Full Metal Jacket sample is the Vanilla Ice song. This one's called "I'm So Horny" and it's on the South Park Chef Aid album. But, it's an actual song that Parker & Stone put on the Chef album & procede to make fun of with an audio commentary over it.

I've gotta Google. I'll be back.
Title: Re: I thought it was pronounced Mosk-va
Post by: ggould on March 15, 2005, 10:48:05 AM
Quote from: "princessofcairo"
Quote from: "Gazoo"

Huh?  You mean, "Mos-c-cow," like "Cha-ka-Khan"?  I'm confused.


:) the proper pronunciation is "mus-ko-vah." which sort of rhymes with chaka khan.  i bet she'd make an attractive little nikita.
yes, according to an online English-Russian dictionary, it's moskva
Title: Ides of March (Tuesday 3/15)
Post by: princessofcairo on March 15, 2005, 10:48:35 AM
Quote from: "mshray"


You mean the one with the sample from Full Metal Jacket?  
"me so horny, me luv you long time"


i thought she was from "missing in action?"
Title: Ides of March (Tuesday 3/15)
Post by: Beej on March 15, 2005, 10:48:36 AM
OK! OK! It's Mousse T vs Hot & Juicy. Here's a Media Player link thing from Amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/clipserve/B00000G2JM001013/0/102-5941479-4263337
Title: Ides of March (Tuesday 3/15)
Post by: princessofcairo on March 15, 2005, 10:49:55 AM
Quote from: "mshray"


Something I never pulled out of this song, but according to Allmusic they are mourning the loss of John Lennon in these lyrics.


i could see that. if they were singing for yono. that would also explain why dave wants to wear the album as bling. bling.

then there's this. (http://stevebartonmusic.tripod.com/id5.html)
Title: Re: I thought it was pronounced Musk-va
Post by: mshray on March 15, 2005, 10:50:30 AM
Quote from: "ggould"
Quote from: "princessofcairo"
Quote from: "Gazoo"

Huh?  You mean, "Mos-c-cow," like "Cha-ka-Khan"?  I'm confused.


:) the proper pronunciation is "mus-ko-vah." which sort of rhymes with chaka khan.  i bet she'd make an attractive little nikita.


in cyrllic it is written MOCKBA, with c = s & b = v (sorta).  Lacking a 3rd vowel, I'm pretty sure it is only two syllables.  But I'll ask my Muscovite friend Elena for a ruling.  :)
Title: Re: I thought it was pronounced Musk-va
Post by: princessofcairo on March 15, 2005, 10:51:05 AM
the "k" is its own syllable. it's nearly impossible to pronounce it as "musk-va."
Title: Re: I thought it was pronounced Musk-va
Post by: ggould on March 15, 2005, 10:52:03 AM
Quote from: "mshray"
Quote from: "ggould"
Quote from: "princessofcairo"
Quote from: "Gazoo"

Huh?  You mean, "Mos-c-cow," like "Cha-ka-Khan"?  I'm confused.


:) the proper pronunciation is "mus-ko-vah." which sort of rhymes with chaka khan.  i bet she'd make an attractive little nikita.


in cyrllic it is written MOCKBA, with c = s & b = v (sorta).  Lacking a 3rd vowel, I'm pretty sure it is only two syllables.  But I'll ask my Muscovite friend Elena for a ruling.  :)
I'm a former Russian Studies major (2nd out of four, the others being Biology, English, and finally Chemistry) so believe it!
 :oops:  :lol:  8)
Title: Ides of March (Tuesday 3/15)
Post by: princessofcairo on March 15, 2005, 10:52:21 AM
Quote from: "Beej"
No, I think the song with the Full Metal Jacket sample is the Vanilla Ice song.


not vanilla ice. 2 live crew.
Title: Re: I thought it was pronounced Musk-va
Post by: princessofcairo on March 15, 2005, 10:56:03 AM
Quote from: "ggould"
I'm a former Russian Studies major (2nd out of four, the others being Biology, English, and finally Chemistry) so believe it!
 :oops:  :lol:  8)


:) such smarties here! i was really just poking fun at gaz for wanting people to pronounce "tokyo" as intended. i don't know nuthin' 'bout no russian. i just listen to my russian housemate who tries to teach me proper pronunciation. i can't pronounce it in two syllables, even if the k "syllable" is slight. but all i really meant was i prefer when it's pronounced properly as opposed to "mas-cow."
Title: Re: I thought it was pronounced Musk-va
Post by: ggould on March 15, 2005, 10:56:07 AM
Quote from: "princessofcairo"
the "k" is its own syllable. it's nearly impossible to pronounce it as "musk-va."
I could be wrong; my grandmother was from Kiev, not Moscow.  If people pronounced it with three syllables, regardless of how it's spelled, that's good enough for me.
Title: Re: I thought it was pronounced Musk-va
Post by: ggould on March 15, 2005, 10:57:22 AM
Quote from: "princessofcairo"
i was really just poking fun at gaz for wanting people to pronounce "tokyo" as intended.
I thought you were too, but then, you know how gullible I am!
Title: Re: I thought it was pronounced Musk-va
Post by: mshray on March 15, 2005, 11:26:13 AM
Quote from: "ggould"
Quote from: "princessofcairo"
i was really just poking fun at gaz for wanting people to pronounce "tokyo" as intended.
I thought you were too, but then, you know how gullible I am!


well in Japanese the pronunciation of Tokyo is borderline 3 syllables.  It is pronounced To-kyo, not Tok-yo.  It is composed of 2 kanji characters, one for To, meaning 'east' & one for Kyo, meaning capitol.  And 'kyo' comes out very nearly as 'keough' even amongst native speakers.

Kinda like anything with an R-L sequence in English.   Try saying 'world' or 'girl' without adding a little extra syllable between the R & the L.  For most people 'girl' rhymes wtih 'squirrel'.