10@10 - Discussion of KFOG's show in general

[CapnJack]

? & The Mysterians - 96 Tears

[dischead]

? & The Mysterians - 96 Tears

[tears hair from head; runs out of the room sobbing]


I have the 45, and on there it's printed as:

? (Question Mark)
& The Mysterians

(I also have Simon & Garfunkel's Fakin' It, with the time listed as 2:74.)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fakin'_It_(song)

[Lightnin' Rod]

? & The Mysterians - 96 Tears

[tears hair from head; runs out of the room sobbing]


I have the 45, and on there it's printed as:

? (Question Mark)
& The Mysterians

(I also have Simon & Garfunkel's Fakin' It, with the time listed as 2:74.)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fakin'_It_(song)

LOL. 

[Lightnin' Rod]

It's great that you're catching these and can easily write an update that fixes them, but in my
view these are errors that I should (and will) fix in my files.

I am of course saving these, and will run them against future imports.

[dischead]

-- various issues, should be obvious (BTO, STP, CCR and CSN not spelled out, general

I am correcting these in my files, along with AWB -> Average White Band, and Bros. -> Brothers.

update setEntries set artist = 'Commander Cody & His Lost Planet Airmen' where artist = 'Cody & His Lost Planet Airmen'

Heh.  I also found "Commander Cody & His Lost Airmen" in one year.

update setEntries set artist = 'Three Dog Night' where artist = '3 Dog Night'

Also "The Three Degrees."  But what of "3 Doors Down?"

-- one backward entry in rawdata
update setEntries set artist = 'Prince', song = 'Little Red Corvette' where artist = 'Little Red Corvette'

Actually, most of the entries in this set (6/10/13) were swapped.  I have fixed.  I have been on
the lookout for this since whoever posts the lists on the KFOG site reversed the order.
(grumble, grumble)

For the record, I am okay with "Question Mark and the Mysterians."

"That's going to cause a bit of confusion around here... mind if we call you Bruce?"

[Lightnin' Rod]

"That's going to cause a bit of confusion around here... mind if we call you Bruce?"

Good one, Bruce.


As for 3 Doors Down, it makes me sad, but I think it's supposed to be a 3.  We definitely can't just replace numbers in artist names -- TimbukThree just doesn't work.

Also, in 2013, there's an entry for 'A3' -- I think I looked them up, and they are a real band.  I suppose.

[dischead]

"That's going to cause a bit of confusion around here... mind if we call you Bruce?"

Good one, Bruce.

Thank you, Bruce!

As for 3 Doors Down, it makes me sad, but I think it's supposed to be a 3.  We definitely can't just replace numbers in artist names -- TimbukThree just doesn't work.

Also, in 2013, there's an entry for 'A3' -- I think I looked them up, and they are a real band.  I suppose.

I have no problem with names that use numerals, and I agree that they shouldn't be used as
abbreviations if the artist doesn't spell it that way.  Punctuation marks are usually the problem
in data, as they are often reserved characters.

[dischead]

If I was on vacation and idly musing about a 10@10 database as I watched the clouds float by,
these are some of the design issues I'd be ruminating over...

Including a type field to denote the different major categories of shows:  year, theme, mystery,
vertical tasting/chartbusters.

How to deal with vertical tasting/chartbuster sets, where each song is from a different year.

How to deal with sets that don't have ten songs.  Dave goofed at least once and played only
nine, and there are many sets that go to eleven, twelve, and even thirteen.

How to deal with Annalisa's "double plays" -- two short songs listed together, usually in an early
'60s show.

Encore/classic set issues... not all encores are denoted as such, and many DM-era encores are
from before 2002, and thus their first appearence is unique even though they're labeled as a
classic.  And should sets that are repeated be counted when computing stats like the most
played artist or the number of times a year is visited?  Or should it be an option whether to
include them or not?

Anyway, that's what I'd...  Wow!  That cloud looks like a penguin!

[Big Fingers McGee]

Per Renee on how recent 10@10 goes...

Crazy, right? The most recent year is always 10 years back, 2003.

The comment was liked by Michael Moore.

[Lightnin' Rod]

Anyway, that's what I'd...  Wow!  That cloud looks like a penguin!

LOL.  I took my laptop up with me on my annual fishing trip (which coincidentally started the day of your post) thinking I might have some free time to get back to playing with the database.  I had the time, but not the inclination, so the laptop never made it out of the bag. 

Fish on.

[dischead]

LOL.  I took my laptop up with me on my annual fishing trip (which coincidentally started the day of your post) thinking I might have some free time to get back to playing with the database.  I had the time, but not the inclination, so the laptop never made it out of the bag. 

Excellent!  Pondering a problem is permissible, but actually doing anything about it is verboten.

[Here'sToYa!]

Per Renee on how recent 10@10 goes...

Crazy, right? The most recent year is always 10 years back, 2003.

The comment was liked by Michael Moore.

The Michael Moore? Or is that some kind of pseudonym for someone with the initials MM?

[Big Fingers McGee]

Per Renee on how recent 10@10 goes...

Crazy, right? The most recent year is always 10 years back, 2003.

The comment was liked by Michael Moore.

The Michael Moore? Or is that some kind of pseudonym for someone with the initials MM?

Presumably a different one. Or, that's what the Germans want us to believe (thanks Norm MacDonald!)

[dischead]

another critic heard from: anonymous poster on the radiodiscussions.com message board...

"I realize no one can replace Dave Morey on 10-at-10, but shouldn't someone oversee what Renee is doing? The original idea behind 10 at 10 was to play songs from a long ago year that 1) were actually played on the radio, 2) have not been played on the radio much since, 3) were a blend of AOR, Alternative and Top 40, 4) had a cohesive flow with a nice blend of vocals, hard/soft etc, and 5) were spiced up with news and ad nuggets from that year. The current 10-at-10 sounds like something I can throw together in 10 minutes....pick out a bunch of songs from Joel Whitburn's Billboard Top 100 book and add in obscure album cuts from perhaps my own album collection...but never got airplay on even the most liberal free-form stations. Net result....a mess. 10 at 10 should be about reminiscence and maybe introducing a younger audience to some overlooked chestnuts....not plowing through stuff everyone knows or would never want to know."

I thought some of these points had merit, so I copied this comment here as the appropriate
thread for discussion of same.

[RGMike]

Just realized we get another Friday the 13th next week.  "Holiday Hits From Hell" -- which Dave once did on a Friday 12/13 -- would be awesome but I somehow doubt it will happen.