The Prop 8 thread

[RGMike]

And now Vermont has legalized gay marriage -- overriding the (GOP) governor's veto:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/04/07/AR2009040701663.html

the most important sentence in that article:

"Vermont has no mechanism for a citizen referendum to override the law."

and no "activist judges" were involved -- it was hilarious to see the right-wing machine fuming about those (Republican-appointed) judges in Iowa last week.

[mshray]

Has anyone seen this new "Gathering Storm" ad from the marriage inequality folks?  I got an email from the Courage Campaign about it, which included a link to view it. 

Yeesh!  The audacity of these people to portray themselves as the victims of a conspiracy to take away their rights is just astonishing.  They also try to co-opt the term 'Rainbow Coalition'.

fwiw, my 9-yr-old saw most of it, and at first he couldn't catch all of what they were saying.  He said that he thought it might be a trailer for the upcoming Harry Potter movie because the roiling dark clouds in the background made the people complaining about gay marriage look like they were all followers of Voldemort!

[urth]

Has anyone seen this new "Gathering Storm" ad from the marriage inequality folks?  I got an email from the Courage Campaign about it, which included a link to view it. 

Yeesh!  The audacity of these people to portray themselves as the victims of a conspiracy to take away their rights is just astonishing.  They also try to co-opt the term 'Rainbow Coalition'.

fwiw, my 9-yr-old saw most of it, and at first he couldn't catch all of what they were saying.  He said that he thought it might be a trailer for the upcoming Harry Potter movie because the roiling dark clouds in the background made the people complaining about gay marriage look like they were all followers of Voldemort!

Is that the one that uses the Weather Girls' "It's Raining Men"? Yeah, I had a tough time figuring out which side they were advocating.

[Gazoo]

I wish I could call it funny.  But I'm getting furious:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wp76ly2_NoI

[RGMike]

I wish I could call it funny.  But I'm getting furious:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wp76ly2_NoI

Mr Morford nails it, as usual:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2009/04/10/notes041009.DTL

[Tinka Cat]

I wish I could call it funny.  But I'm getting furious:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wp76ly2_NoI

Mr Morford nails it, as usual:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2009/04/10/notes041009.DTL

and from examiner.com:

Fear mongering from The National Organization for Marriage
http://www.examiner.com/x-7107-NY-Media-Examiner~y2009m4d9-Fear-mongering-from-The-National-Organization-for-Marriage

[RGMike]

I wish I could call it funny.  But I'm getting furious:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wp76ly2_NoI

Mr Morford nails it, as usual:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2009/04/10/notes041009.DTL

and from examiner.com:

Fear mongering from The National Organization for Marriage
http://www.examiner.com/x-7107-NY-Media-Examiner~y2009m4d9-Fear-mongering-from-The-National-Organization-for-Marriage

That was impressive, not just because it debunks the (false) claims in the spot, but because the Examiner is owned by a right-wing Chrstian billionaire.

[urth]

I wish I could call it funny.  But I'm getting furious:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wp76ly2_NoI

Mr Morford nails it, as usual:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2009/04/10/notes041009.DTL

and from examiner.com:

Fear mongering from The National Organization for Marriage
http://www.examiner.com/x-7107-NY-Media-Examiner~y2009m4d9-Fear-mongering-from-The-National-Organization-for-Marriage

That was impressive, not just because it debunks the (false) claims in the spot, but because the Examiner is owned by a right-wing Chrstian billionaire.

Here's the remix I was talking about:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5HQ2fOUYws

[RGMike]

I wish I could call it funny.  But I'm getting furious:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wp76ly2_NoI

Mr Morford nails it, as usual:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2009/04/10/notes041009.DTL

and from examiner.com:

Fear mongering from The National Organization for Marriage
http://www.examiner.com/x-7107-NY-Media-Examiner~y2009m4d9-Fear-mongering-from-The-National-Organization-for-Marriage

That was impressive, not just because it debunks the (false) claims in the spot, but because the Examiner is owned by a right-wing Chrstian billionaire.

Here's the remix I was talking about:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5HQ2fOUYws

Ha! that made my day! thanks, Urth

[urth]

I wish I could call it funny.  But I'm getting furious:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wp76ly2_NoI

Mr Morford nails it, as usual:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2009/04/10/notes041009.DTL

and from examiner.com:

Fear mongering from The National Organization for Marriage
http://www.examiner.com/x-7107-NY-Media-Examiner~y2009m4d9-Fear-mongering-from-The-National-Organization-for-Marriage

That was impressive, not just because it debunks the (false) claims in the spot, but because the Examiner is owned by a right-wing Chrstian billionaire.

Here's the remix I was talking about:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5HQ2fOUYws

Ha! that made my day! thanks, Urth

De nada!

[RGMike]

For Gay Couple, Fulfilling Lifelong Dream Of Marriage Not Worth Moving To Iowa

NEW YORK—Having their sworn commitment to each other and all related rights therein recognized by the highest court of a sovereign U.S. state is ultimately not worth the hassle of moving to Iowa, longtime partners Danny Mindlin and Alex Small determined Monday. "Alex and I want to grow old together, but we'd have to drive six hours just to get a mezzaluna at Restoration Hardware," said Mindlin, who claimed he "couldn't survive" without a strawberry frosted cupcake from Amy's Bread after yoga every Thursday. "And where would we summer? Dubuque? I think we'll just buy a townhouse and live in an unrecognized union with beautiful granite countertops instead." The couple told reporters that their plans to adopt also weighed heavily in the decision, since they want to raise a child who is healthy, balanced, and "not tacky."

(Courtesy The Onion, natch)

[urth]

One more state joins in: Maine passes gay marriage bill
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2009/05/06/national/a095855D76.DTL

Five down, 45 (plus Guam and Puerto Rico) to go.

(I'm perplexed that the Chron buried this way down in the Nation and World box, rather than giving it play more toward the top of the page. Is gay marriage old news already?)

[Gazoo]

One more state joins in: Maine passes gay marriage bill
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2009/05/06/national/a095855D76.DTL

Five down, 45 (plus Guam and Puerto Rico) to go.

(I'm perplexed that the Chron buried this way down in the Nation and World box, rather than giving it play more toward the top of the page. Is gay marriage old news already?)

Might be that the SFGate.com audience doesn't care for such stories.  My limited exposure to the commenters suggests that the online audience skews shockingly conservative (which is part of why I stopped reading SFGate.com; I couldn't ignore the asshole respondents).

[SFGuy]

One more state joins in: Maine passes gay marriage bill
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2009/05/06/national/a095855D76.DTL

Five down, 45 (plus Guam and Puerto Rico) to go.

(I'm perplexed that the Chron buried this way down in the Nation and World box, rather than giving it play more toward the top of the page. Is gay marriage old news already?)

Might be that the SFGate.com audience doesn't care for such stories.  My limited exposure to the commenters suggests that the online audience skews shockingly conservative (which is part of why I stopped reading SFGate.com; I couldn't ignore the asshole respondents).

You folks are in the minority as you all are pretty liberal when I poll I read a couple years ago (or last year) where it said the majority of online users tend to lean toward conservative. BTW, despite Obama's election, this country as a whole does lean right of center.

[Lightnin' Rod]

American Idol, catalyst for change:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/05/20/MNM117NCD2.DTL

I know many of you despise Idol, and I can hardly blame you.  For me, guilty pleasure.  Adam, the more or less openly gay glam screamer, should win tonight.  The other finalist, Mrazzish pretty boy Kris, is a decent singer with boyish charm, so it's not a shoe in.  But Adam is something special, if not everyone's cup of tea.  Think Steven Tyler with a goth twist.