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« Reply #30 on: May 05, 2005, 10:39:37 AM »
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Now that was weird. Two white guys from Tucson covering a psychedelic band from LA, and it gets played in a set commemorating Cinco de Mayo. The arrangement certainly borrows from Latin music, but I'm just sayin'....

Either Dave takes the latter half of the phrase "Calexico" literally here, or he's giving a pass to anything with mariachi horns (in which case he might as well close with "The Tide Is High" or Robbie Williams's "Me and My Monkey").


or Johnny Cash, "Ring of Fire".
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« Reply #31 on: May 05, 2005, 10:40:29 AM »
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In fact, I was invited this week to a Cinco de Mayo party on Saturday, and the hosts specifically played up the "they beat the FRENCH! FUCK YEAH!" angle. I was so repulsed by their attitude that I can't bring myself to attend even though friends of mine will be there.

I was being flip. I love the French. They make killer fries.

c'est le vie!

ETA: Besides, how hard is it to beat the French. I mean, really.  :)
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« Reply #32 on: May 05, 2005, 10:42:16 AM »
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Now that was weird. Two white guys from Tucson covering a psychedelic band from LA, and it gets played in a set commemorating Cinco de Mayo. The arrangement certainly borrows from Latin music, but I'm just sayin'....

Either Dave takes the latter half of the phrase "Calexico" literally here, or he's giving a pass to anything with mariachi horns (in which case he might as well close with "The Tide Is High" or Robbie Williams's "Me and My Monkey").


I guess if Concrete Blonde and Wall of Voodoo qualify, then Calexico gets a pass too.

Still wish we'd heard David Lee Roth...
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« Reply #33 on: May 05, 2005, 10:42:50 AM »
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So, this is the day the Mexicans drove the French out of Mexico or something, right?

Fuckin' French.

In fact, I was invited this week to a Cinco de Mayo party on Saturday, and the hosts specifically played up the "they beat the FRENCH! FUCK YEAH!" angle.  I was so repulsed by their attitude that I can't bring myself to attend even though friends of mine will be there.


the only funny joke on American Dad, the cheap knockoff of Family Guy (which is itself a cheap, overrated Simpsons knockoff):

Wife: "How's your French Toast?"

Husband: "Smelly and ungrateful -- but this AMERICAN toast is delicious!"
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« Reply #34 on: May 05, 2005, 10:47:01 AM »
here's the  scoop on Cinco De Mayo:

 
 
The 5th of May is not Mexican Independence Day, but it should be!  And Cinco de Mayo is not an American holiday, but it should be.  Mexico declared its independence from mother Spain on midnight, the 15th of September, 1810.  And it took 11 years before the first Spanish soldiers were told and forced to leave Mexico.

So, why Cinco de Mayo?  And why should Americans savor this day as well?  Because 4,000 Mexican soldiers smashed the French and traitor Mexican army of 8,000 at Puebla, Mexico, 100 miles east of Mexico City on the morning of May 5, 1862.

The French had landed in Mexico (along with Spanish and English troops) five months earlier on the pretext of collecting Mexican debts from the newly elected government of democratic President (and Indian) Benito Juarez.  The English and Spanish quickly made deals and left.  The French, however, had different ideas.

Under Emperor Napoleon III, who detested the United States, the French came to stay.  They brought a Hapsburg prince with them to rule the new Mexican empire.  His name was Maximilian; his wife, Carolota.  Napoleon's French Army had not been defeated in 50 years, and it invaded Mexico with the finest modern equipment and with a newly reconstituted Foreign Legion.  The French were not afraid of anyone, especially since the United States was embroiled in its own Civil War.

The French Army left the port of Vera Cruz to attack Mexico City to the west, as the French assumed that the Mexicans would give up should their capital fall to the enemy -- as European countries traditionally did.

Under the command of Texas-born General Zaragosa, (and the cavalry under the command of Colonel Porfirio Diaz, later to be Mexico's president and dictator), the Mexicans awaited.  Brightly dressed French Dragoons led the enemy columns.  The Mexican Army was less stylish.

General Zaragosa ordered Colonel Diaz to take his cavalry, the best in the world, out to the French flanks.  In response, the French did a most stupid thing: they sent their cavalry off to chase Diaz and his men, who proceeded to butcher them.  The remaining French infantrymen charged the Mexican defenders through sloppy mud from a thunderstorm and through hundreds of head of stampeding cattle stirred up by Indians armed only with machetes.

When the battle was over, many French were killed or wounded and their cavalry was being chased by Diaz' superb horsemen miles away.  The Mexicans had won a great victory that kept Napoleon III from supplying the confederate rebels for another year, allowing the United States to build the greatest army the world had ever seen.  This grand army smashed the Confederates at Gettysburg just 14 months after the battle of Puebla, essentially ending the Civil War.

Union forces were then rushed to the Texas/Mexican border under General Phil Sheridan, who made sure that the Mexicans got all the weapons and ammunition they needed to expel the French.  American soldiers were discharged with their uniforms and rifles if they promised to join the Mexican Army to fight the French.  The American Legion of Honor marched in the Victory Parade in Mexico, City.

It might be a historical stretch to credit the survival of the United States to those brave 4,000 Mexicans who faced an army twice as large in 1862.  But who knows?

In gratitude, thousands of Mexicans crossed the border after Pearl Harbor to join the U.S. Armed Forces.  As recently as the Persian Gulf War, Mexicans flooded American consulates with phone calls, trying to join up and fight another war for America.

Mexicans, you see, never forget who their friends are, and neither do Americans.  That's why Cinco de Mayo is such a party -- A party that celebrates freedom and liberty.  There are two ideals which Mexicans and Americans have fought shoulder to shoulder to protect, ever since the 5th of May, 1862.  VIVA! el CINCO DE MAYO!!
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« Reply #35 on: May 05, 2005, 10:59:57 AM »
So, did I totally piss Gazoo off with my 'Fuckin French' comment or something?

I'm sorry if I did, Gazoo. I'll try to be more sensitive in the future.
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« Reply #36 on: May 05, 2005, 11:02:30 AM »
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Mexicans, you see, never forget who their friends are, and neither do Americans.

I was with you right up until this line.
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« Reply #37 on: May 05, 2005, 11:05:39 AM »
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Mexicans, you see, never forget who their friends are, and neither do Americans.

From "Lafayette, we are here!" to Freedom Fries: where did it go wrong?

(not exactly a rhetorical question but one perhaps best answered in another thread)
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« Reply #38 on: May 05, 2005, 11:05:45 AM »
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So, did I totally piss Gazoo off with my 'Fuckin French' comment or something?

I'm sorry if I did, Gazoo. I'll try to be more sensitive in the future.

No, not in the slightest, Beej.  I know where you're comin' from.  I just lose my sense of humor when I see people trot out that stuff sans irony, as happens all too often here.  American arrogance is fatiguing.
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« Reply #39 on: May 05, 2005, 11:07:26 AM »
Cool. Thanks, Gazoo. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't misrepresenting myself!
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« Reply #40 on: May 05, 2005, 11:34:04 AM »
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Mexicans, you see, never forget who their friends are, and neither do Americans.

I was with you right up until this line.


Me Too!

that really ought to say "Mexicans, you see, never forget who their friends are, and neither should Americans."
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« Reply #41 on: May 05, 2005, 01:16:48 PM »
couldn't pick up too much from the posting, outside of Calexico, and some others:

5/05/05 - Jueves!  Hoy es....Cinco de Mayo!!!

Santana - Carnival/Let the Children Play
Los Lonely Boys - Señorita
Concrete Blonde - Bajo La Lune Mexicana
Wall of Voodoo - Mexican Radio (Lo Mejor del Grupo!!)
Ozomatli - (Who Discovered) America
War - Cinco de Mayo
Los Lobos - C'Mon Let's Go
Calexico - Alone Again Or
Los Mocoso - Caliente
Jorge y Carlos - Luz, Amor Y Vida
Don't stand in the way of LOVE!