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« Reply #15 on: April 19, 2006, 08:59:26 AM »
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Interesting that Bob mentioned the South African connection, in light of our discussion of Dave Marsh yesterday. Marsh (virtually alone among critics) made a big deal of the fact that Simon had "violated" the boycott of SA by going there to record, and how he should be ashamed of himself etc etc. Never mind that he gave the situation more attention than any nerdy critic ever could, or that he employed a gaggle of South African musicians, some of whom (like Ladysmith BM) ended up with US record deals.


...and he paid triple scale to every single person on the record down to the  girl that brought them coffee.

...and he started a world tour on which he brought Ladysmith, Miriam Makeba & Hugh Maskela along, and let them tell their stories of Apartheid.

...and every single show ended with a rendition of "Nkosi Sikele Afrika", which was then the ANC anthem, and now is the national anthem of the Rep. of South Africa. A heart-stopping, tears-to-your-eyes performance with about 40 people on stage, virtually all of whom were South African.
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« Reply #16 on: April 19, 2006, 09:14:35 AM »
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Interesting that Bob mentioned the South African connection, in light of our discussion of Dave Marsh yesterday. Marsh (virtually alone among critics) made a big deal of the fact that Simon had "violated" the boycott of SA by going there to record, and how he should be ashamed of himself etc etc. Never mind that he gave the situation more attention than any nerdy critic ever could, or that he employed a gaggle of South African musicians, some of whom (like Ladysmith BM) ended up with US record deals.


...and he paid triple scale to every single person on the record down to the  girl that brought them coffee.

...and he started a world tour on which he brought Ladysmith, Miriam Makeba & Hugh Maskela along, and let them tell their stories of Apartheid.

...and every single show ended with a rendition of "Nkosi Sikele Afrika", which was then the ANC anthem, and now is the national anthem of the Rep. of South Africa. A heart-stopping, tears-to-your-eyes performance with about 40 people on stage, virtually all of whom were South African.


Thank you!

And as long as we're Marsh-bashing, it's worth noting that he has always had "issues" with middle-class, college-educated musicians like Simon. He believes (almost to the point of fetishism) that only people from working class backgrounds can make "authentic" rock. You know... like a certain guy from Asbury Park. :wink:

He liked Bob Seger, too, until he started pimpin' for Chevrolet.
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« Reply #17 on: April 19, 2006, 09:17:14 AM »
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BOS #2 Paul & Ladysmith Black Mambazo.  Wonder why Dave doesn't mine this album with regularity in his '86 sets.
I'd like to think it's because KFOG plays the album to death all week long, but that doesn't seem to stop him from running other stuff into the ground. :wink:
Interesting that Bob mentioned the South African connection, in light of our discussion of Dave Marsh yesterday. Marsh (virtually alone among critics) made a big deal of the fact that Simon had "violated" the boycott of SA by going there to record, and how he should be ashamed of himself etc etc. Never mind that he gave the situation more attention than any nerdy critic ever could, or that he employed a gaggle of South African musicians, some of whom (like Ladysmith BM) ended up with US record deals.

thank you for reminding me of why I don't like him!  Thanks to Paul, I met his bass player, Bakithi Kumalo, made a bass for him, and found a nice friend.
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« Reply #18 on: April 19, 2006, 09:44:25 AM »
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thank you for reminding me of why I don't like him!  Thanks to Paul, I met his bass player, Bakithi Kumalo, made a bass for him, and found a nice friend.


You got to be friends with Bakithi Kumalo!?!?!?  He's awesome, saw him twice with Paul & he slew everybody.  When did you make him a bass?  Maybe I saw him use it in '91?

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« Reply #19 on: April 19, 2006, 09:48:31 AM »
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And as long as we're Marsh-bashing.


fwiw, I wasn't Marsh-bashing, but rather setting the record straight on Simon.  Another thing he was criticized for was including Ronstadt on Graceland, she being one of the more prominent performers who DID play Sun City.  And she said it was a mistake & she'd never go back, but do these self-righteous PC critics believe in forgiveness & redemption?  Apparently not.
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« Reply #20 on: April 19, 2006, 09:52:41 AM »
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And as long as we're Marsh-bashing.


fwiw, I wasn't Marsh-bashing, but rather setting the record straight on Simon.  Another thing he was criticized for was including Ronstadt on Graceland, she being one of the more prominent performers who DID play Sun City.  And she said it was a mistake & she'd never go back, but do these self-righteous PC critics believe in forgiveness & redemption?  Apparently not.


I was using the royal "we" :wink:   Marsh actually called Ronstadt an "idiot" back then. I wonder if he's changed his tune after her pro-Michael Moore brouhaha.
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« Reply #21 on: April 19, 2006, 09:53:57 AM »
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I wonder if he's changed his tune after her pro-Michael Moore brouhaha.


Good point!
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« Reply #22 on: April 19, 2006, 11:46:22 AM »
Eddie Money (feat. Ronnie Spector)  -  Take Me Home Tonight
Steve Winwood  -  Split Decision
Jackson Browne  -  In the Shape of a Heart
Bon Jovi  -  Living on a Prayer
The Pretenders  -  Don't Get Me Wrong
Bruce Springsteen  -  Fire (live)
Eric Clapton  -  It's in the Way that You Use It
Iggy Pop  -  Real Wild Child
Heart  -  These Dreams
Paul Simon  -  Diamonds on the Soles of Her Shoes
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