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Title: 01 December 2009: 1968!
Post by: Big Fingers McGee on December 01, 2009, 10:03:16 AM
Hopefully this will make Dave proud.
Title: Re: 01 December: 1968!
Post by: RGMike on December 01, 2009, 10:05:09 AM
Hopefully this will make Dave proud.

AL has been out-doing Dave with '60s sets, I daresay. But lo, she begins with a Moreytrina: "Do It Again".
Title: Re: 01 December: 1968!
Post by: Big Fingers McGee on December 01, 2009, 10:05:36 AM
For those who are interested, the AV Club has an interesting article about the 17 Weirdest Songs by the Beach Boys.
Title: Re: 01 December: 1968!
Post by: RGMike on December 01, 2009, 10:07:56 AM
OMFG! BOS Spankymama and Our Gang-o-Papas, "I'd Like To Get To Know You".
Title: Re: 01 December 2009: 1968!
Post by: Big Fingers McGee on December 01, 2009, 10:09:28 AM
Ok, this might not be as on point as I'd first thought, but what would be the record for shortest 10@10? Longest? Has it ever gone past 11?

My initial guesses would be:

1) The 60's Soul Patrol sets are pretty short
2) The "Earth Day" 10@10 with a guest host at least approached a full hour.
Title: Re: 01 December 2009: 1968!
Post by: RGMike on December 01, 2009, 10:10:50 AM
BOS2 John Fred, eating "lemonade pie" in a brand new car -- watch the upholstery! 
Title: Re: 01 December: 1968!
Post by: urth on December 01, 2009, 10:10:53 AM
OMFG! BOS Spankymama and Our Gang-o-Papas, "I'd Like To Get To Know You".

Very Fifth-Dimension-esque coda on this version that I've never heard before.

VHM John Fred and his Playboy Band.
Title: Re: 01 December 2009: 1968!
Post by: Davefish on December 01, 2009, 10:11:26 AM
BOS for "Judy in Disguise".  Awfully silly, but haven't heard it in a while.
Title: Re: 01 December: 1968!
Post by: Gazoo on December 01, 2009, 10:12:33 AM
For those who are interested, the AV Club has an interesting article about the 17 Weirdest Songs by the Beach Boys.

I'll have to check this out.

VHM to Spanky & Our Gang, a former 3WS staple.
Title: Re: 01 December 2009: 1968!
Post by: Big Fingers McGee on December 01, 2009, 10:14:15 AM
BOS Steppenwolf, even if it's something of a Katrina. A pick-me-up.
Title: Re: 01 December 2009: 1968!
Post by: RGMike on December 01, 2009, 10:14:35 AM
VHM Steve McQueen
(http://img.listal.com/image/721845/400full.jpg)
Title: Re: 01 December 2009: 1968!
Post by: Big Fingers McGee on December 01, 2009, 10:14:52 AM
BOS for "Judy in Disguise".  Awfully silly, but haven't heard it in a while.

I would agree. HM candidate
Title: Re: 01 December 2009: 1968!
Post by: Big Fingers McGee on December 01, 2009, 10:15:54 AM
VHM Steve McQueen
(http://img.listal.com/image/721845/400full.jpg)

And a candidate for a future 10@10, "Songs About Movie Actors",
Title: Re: 01 December 2009: 1968!
Post by: RGMike on December 01, 2009, 10:17:28 AM
BOS Steppenwolf, even if it's something of a Katrina. A pick-me-up.

dunno its status in the shraytabase, but it is easily one of the 4 or 5 most-overplayed oldies evah -- right up there with "Brown-Eyed Girl" and "Happy Together"
Title: Re: 01 December 2009: 1968!
Post by: RGMike on December 01, 2009, 10:19:18 AM
segue-of-the-week: Dan Rather getting rather manhandled -->into --> "No One Here Gets Out Alive".
Title: Re: 01 December 2009: 1968!
Post by: ggould on December 01, 2009, 10:19:29 AM
sorry I'm missin' this!
Title: Re: 01 December 2009: 1968!
Post by: ggould on December 01, 2009, 10:20:11 AM
segue-of-the-week: Dan Rather getting rather manhandled -->into --> "No One Here Gets Out Alive".
5to1?
Title: Re: 01 December 2009: 1968!
Post by: Tinka Cat on December 01, 2009, 10:21:00 AM
fab set so far.  I loved the Spanky song, I really dig that soft cocktail singers vibe from the 60s,
like the stuff from The Free Design:
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=free+design&search_type=&aq=f

I have to say the trailer for Bullitt might be better than the movie, chase scene notwithstanding.  It's pretty slow moving overall.
Title: Re: 01 December 2009: 1968!
Post by: RGMike on December 01, 2009, 10:22:27 AM

I have to say the trailer for Bullitt might be better than the movie, chase scene notwithstanding.  It's pretty slow moving overall.

everything from that era seems "slow-moving" compared to the video-game/ADD editing style that is the norm nowadays.
Title: Re: 01 December 2009: 1968!
Post by: RGMike on December 01, 2009, 10:23:54 AM
proxy of Geoff: Janis, takin' a piece. Or being one.
Title: Re: 01 December 2009: 1968!
Post by: urth on December 01, 2009, 10:25:54 AM
Ok, this might not be as on point as I'd first thought, but what would be the record for shortest 10@10? Longest? Has it ever gone past 11?


Shortest:  Can't name any specific sets, but we've had a number of mid-60s sets (65, 66, 67) that were pretty short--barely cracking 30 minutes, iirc.

Longest: Dave's annual Foghead Christmas Card sets usually went pretty long, around 50 minutes or so.

More than 11: This one I can cite specifically. On March 6, 2002, Dave ended a 1974 set with Genesis' Back in NYC>Hairless Heart>Counting Out Time from The Lamb as Tune No. 10, but technically stretching to 12 songs " 'cause you really can't break those up."

We've also had a couple of 9-song sets in which Dave got distracted and played one too few songs.
Title: Re: 01 December 2009: 1968!
Post by: Tinka Cat on December 01, 2009, 10:26:20 AM

I have to say the trailer for Bullitt might be better than the movie, chase scene notwithstanding.  It's pretty slow moving overall.

everything from that era seems "slow-moving" compared to the video-game/ADD editing style that is the norm nowadays.

nope, I don't think it's that.  I'm generally not a fan of what you're describing, for the record.  I just think Bullitt didn't hold my interest like I wanted it to.  It's such a seminal movie, creat chase scene, Steve McQueen in SF, etc., it would seem to have everything, but it doesn't hit on all cylinders.

Title: Re: 01 December 2009: 1968!
Post by: urth on December 01, 2009, 10:26:38 AM
segue-of-the-week: Dan Rather getting rather manhandled -->into --> "No One Here Gets Out Alive".
5to1?

Yep, that was it.
Title: Re: 01 December 2009: 1968!
Post by: Big Fingers McGee on December 01, 2009, 10:27:21 AM

I have to say the trailer for Bullitt might be better than the movie, chase scene notwithstanding.  It's pretty slow moving overall.

everything from that era seems "slow-moving" compared to the video-game/ADD editing style that is the norm nowadays.

In my humble opinion, whatever that may be worth, is that Bullitt is far more exciting than 95% of what comes out nowadays, even more than 40 years later.

And, in what other movie can you see the Embarcadero Freeway?
Title: Re: 01 December 2009: 1968!
Post by: Gazoo on December 01, 2009, 10:28:54 AM
BOS to S&G, come to look for America.  I wonder if they were glad when they found it.
Title: Re: 01 December 2009: 1968!
Post by: RGMike on December 01, 2009, 10:29:22 AM
in what other movie can you see the Embarcadero Freeway?

Dirty Harry?

BOS3 S&G -- another Moreytrina but i'm not complaining.
Title: Re: 01 December 2009: 1968!
Post by: Big Fingers McGee on December 01, 2009, 10:29:27 AM
Ok, this might not be as on point as I'd first thought, but what would be the record for shortest 10@10? Longest? Has it ever gone past 11?


Shortest:  Can't name any specific sets, but we've had a number of mid-60s sets (65, 66, 67) that were pretty short--barely cracking 30 minutes, iirc.

Longest: Dave's annual Foghead Christmas Card sets usually went pretty long, around 50 minutes or so.

More than 11: This one I can cite specifically. On March 6, 2002, Dave ended a 1974 set with Genesis' Back in NYC>Hairless Heart>Counting Out Time from The Lamb as Tune No. 10, but technically stretching to 12 songs " 'cause you really can't break those up."

We've also had a couple of 9-song sets in which Dave got distracted and played one too few songs.

Thanks urth! Although, I actually meant "Ran past 11AM". I do remember the 10/12 set from 1974.
Title: Re: 01 December 2009: 1968!
Post by: Big Fingers McGee on December 01, 2009, 10:30:23 AM
in what other movie can you see the Embarcadero Freeway?

Dirty Harry?

BOS3 S&G -- another Moreytrina but i'm not complaining.

Thanks Mike! I'll have to watch that again, it's been a long while.
Title: Re: 01 December 2009: 1968!
Post by: Davefish on December 01, 2009, 10:30:28 AM
in what other movie can you see the Embarcadero Freeway?

Dirty Harry?

BOS3 S&G -- another Moreytrina but i'm not complaining.
Such a great song.
Title: Re: 01 December 2009: 1968!
Post by: Big Fingers McGee on December 01, 2009, 10:30:41 AM
BOS Mr. Johnny Cash!
Title: Re: 01 December 2009: 1968!
Post by: mshray on December 01, 2009, 10:32:17 AM

BOS Mr. Johnny Cash!

Soooeeee!
Title: Re: 01 December 2009: 1968!
Post by: RGMike on December 01, 2009, 10:32:18 AM
Marlboro country --> Johnny Cash! BOS4 "Folsom Prison Blues"; what did I say the other day about AL not being afraid to play country?  Bless her li'l pea-pickin' heart!
Title: Re: 01 December 2009: 1968!
Post by: Gazoo on December 01, 2009, 10:34:02 AM
White country man sings about killing a man just to watch him die = storytelling legend

Black hip-hopper rap about killing a man = thug

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Title: Re: 01 December 2009: 1968!
Post by: Tinka Cat on December 01, 2009, 10:34:39 AM
in what other movie can you see the Embarcadero Freeway?

Dirty Harry?

BOS3 S&G -- another Moreytrina but i'm not complaining.

Thanks Mike! I'll have to watch that again, it's been a long while.

good call.  I believe Dirty Harry also features the Lefty O'Doul Bridge (aka Third street Bridge near King Street right next to the ballpark).  btw, that bridge is also visible in one of the Coit Tower Murals.

(btw, I'll be doing a tour of the Coit Murals this Saturday at 11 AM.  It's one of the many FREE  tours offered by the SF City Guides -- http://sfcityguides.org)
Title: Re: 01 December 2009: 1968!
Post by: Big Fingers McGee on December 01, 2009, 10:36:51 AM
Lefty O'Doul Bridge

Also in A View To A Kill. In spite of the location, I felt the best thing about that last Roger Moore-as-Bond movie was the theme song.
Title: Re: 01 December 2009: 1968!
Post by: RGMike on December 01, 2009, 10:37:26 AM
OMFG! Dark Shadows!! BOS5

BOS6 Jimi.
Title: Re: 01 December 2009: 1968!
Post by: Gazoo on December 01, 2009, 10:38:26 AM
OMFG! Dark Shadows!! BOS5

BOS6 Jimi.

Both NTM.
Title: Re: 01 December 2009: 1968!
Post by: RGMike on December 01, 2009, 10:38:44 AM
White country man sings about killing a man just to watch him die = storytelling legend

Black hip-hopper rap about killing a man = thug

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don't get me started on why that's an oversimplification ;)
Title: Re: 01 December 2009: 1968!
Post by: Gazoo on December 01, 2009, 10:40:12 AM
White country man sings about killing a man just to watch him die = storytelling legend

Black hip-hopper rap about killing a man = thug

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don't get me started on why that's an oversimplification ;)

It's an oversimplification, but it's also a double standard.  White musicians are considered to be intelligent enough to sing "in character," while black rappers get no such benefit of the doubt.
Title: Re: 01 December 2009: 1968!
Post by: RGMike on December 01, 2009, 10:49:28 AM
White country man sings about killing a man just to watch him die = storytelling legend

Black hip-hopper rap about killing a man = thug

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don't get me started on why that's an oversimplification ;)

It's an oversimplification, but it's also a double standard.  White musicians are considered to be intelligent enough to sing "in character," while black rappers get no such benefit of the doubt.

it's a double standard only up to a point.  Rock and country have the occasional violent lyric (probably less than 10% of all hit rock/pop/country songs are about people killing people). Gangsta Rap's raison d'etre is violence (either "documenting" it or advocating it, depending on your POV), hence its reputation. 
Title: Re: 01 December 2009: 1968!
Post by: urth on December 01, 2009, 11:02:19 AM
BOS: Johnny Cash, Folsom Prison Blues.

Sodden Thought: Always wondered why, if the protagonist shot a man in Nevada, he was imprisoned in California? Small things...

BOS2, Stones, stayin' close to their roots.

Aside: On the plane from DC last night, the movie was "It Might Get Loud", a real music-geekfest juxtaposing Jimmy Page, the Edge, and Jack White. Made my flight much more enjoyable, but the kids who were expecting to see Harry Potter (which had been announced) weren't so happy.

Title: Re: 01 December 2009: 1968!
Post by: RGMike on December 01, 2009, 11:17:33 AM
BOS: Johnny Cash, Folsom Prison Blues.

Sodden Thought: Always wondered why, if the protagonist shot a man in Nevada, he was imprisoned in California? Small things...

BOS2, Stones, stayin' close to their roots.

Aside: On the plane from DC last night, the movie was "It Might Get Loud", a real music-geekfest juxtaposing Jimmy Page, the Edge, and Jack White. Made my flight much more enjoyable, but the kids who were expecting to see Harry Potter (which had been announced) weren't so happy.


Yeah, loved that docu -- it didn't do too well theatrically, and is not on the short-list for the Best Docu Oscar (neither is Anvil!).  The vintage clips (most of which were NTM) were just tremendous.
Title: Re: 01 December 2009: 1968!
Post by: Big Fingers McGee on December 01, 2009, 12:34:41 PM
BOS: Johnny Cash, Folsom Prison Blues.

Sodden Thought: Always wondered why, if the protagonist shot a man in Nevada, he was imprisoned in California? Small things...

BOS2, Stones, stayin' close to their roots.

Aside: On the plane from DC last night, the movie was "It Might Get Loud", a real music-geekfest juxtaposing Jimmy Page, the Edge, and Jack White. Made my flight much more enjoyable, but the kids who were expecting to see Harry Potter (which had been announced) weren't so happy.


Yeah, loved that docu -- it didn't do too well theatrically, and is not on the short-list for the Best Docu Oscar (neither is Anvil!).  The vintage clips (most of which were NTM) were just tremendous.

Ok, I'm slow.. what does NTM mean?
Title: Re: 01 December 2009: 1968!
Post by: RGMike on December 01, 2009, 12:56:19 PM

Ok, I'm slow.. what does NTM mean?


New To Me.
Title: Re: 01 December 2009: 1968!
Post by: Tinka Cat on December 01, 2009, 03:48:03 PM
White country man sings about killing a man just to watch him die = storytelling legend

Black hip-hopper rap about killing a man = thug

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don't get me started on why that's an oversimplification ;)

It's an oversimplification, but it's also a double standard.  White musicians are considered to be intelligent enough to sing "in character," while black rappers get no such benefit of the doubt.

it's a double standard only up to a point.  Rock and country have the occasional violent lyric (probably less than 10% of all hit rock/pop/country songs are about people killing people). Gangsta Rap's raison d'etre is violence (either "documenting" it or advocating it, depending on your POV), hence its reputation. 

I think Mike is right in that gangsta-rap that continually glorifies the thug life is worse overall than the occasional violent lyric in country music, but it should be noted that after Johnny sings the line "I shot a man in Reno, just to watch him die"  a whole buncha rednecks start a-whoopin' and a-hollerin'.  They're prob the same kind of dudes that get could be (of have been?) violent against minorities.   

OK, enough over thinking it.  The song rocks!
Title: Re: 01 December 2009: 1968!
Post by: Big Fingers McGee on December 01, 2009, 05:55:29 PM
White country man sings about killing a man just to watch him die = storytelling legend

Black hip-hopper rap about killing a man = thug

This post has been brought to you by United Jesusland of America.

don't get me started on why that's an oversimplification ;)

It's an oversimplification, but it's also a double standard.  White musicians are considered to be intelligent enough to sing "in character," while black rappers get no such benefit of the doubt.

it's a double standard only up to a point.  Rock and country have the occasional violent lyric (probably less than 10% of all hit rock/pop/country songs are about people killing people). Gangsta Rap's raison d'etre is violence (either "documenting" it or advocating it, depending on your POV), hence its reputation.  

I think Mike is right in that gangsta-rap that continually glorifies the thug life is worse overall than the occasional violent lyric in country music, but it should be noted that after Johnny sings the line "I shot a man in Reno, just to watch him die"  a whole buncha rednecks start a-whoopin' and a-hollerin'.  They're prob the same kind of dudes that get could be (of have been?) violent against minorities.  

OK, enough over thinking it.  The song rocks!

It would be interesting to do a test: Have Rob Zombie cover "Cop Killer", and have James Ingram cover "Folsom County Blues", and observe what happens.
Title: Re: 01 December 2009: 1968!
Post by: ggould on December 01, 2009, 06:24:32 PM
12/01/09 - Tuesday!  A quick trip back to...1968!!
   1.  The Beach Boys - Do it Again
   2.  Spanky & Our Gang - Like to Get to Know You
   3.  John Fred & His Playboy Band - Judy in Disguise (With Glasses)
(Movie:  Bullitt)
   4.  Steppenwolf - Born to Be Wild
(News:  Dan Rather Altercation at the Dem. Nat'l Convention)
   5.  Doors - Five to One
   6.  Janis Joplin & Big Brother & the Holding Co. - Piece of My Heart
(News:  MLK the night before his assassination)
   7.  Simon & Garfunkel - America
   8.  Johnny Cash - Folsom Prison Blues (live) (BEST OF SET!!)
(Ad:  Marlboro Country)
   9.  Rolling Stones - Parachute Woman
(TV:  Dark Shadows)
 10.  Jimi Hndrix Experience - Burning of the Midnight Lamp

BONUS TRACK:  Beatles - Revolution