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Title: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: Gazoo on December 01, 2005, 02:50:37 PM
Didn't see a thread for this kind of stuff:

A stunningly long and compelling review of a book about the Brill Building era that I didn't even know was out:
http://www.nybooks.com/articles/18562
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, et
Post by: RGMike on December 01, 2005, 02:57:56 PM
Quote from: "Gazoo"
Didn't see a thread for this kind of stuff:

A stunningly long and compelling review of a book about the Brill Building era that I didn't even know was out:
http://www.nybooks.com/articles/18562


Damn! gotta put that one on my must-read list, along with Donovan's autobio.
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, et
Post by: Gazoo on December 01, 2005, 09:23:02 PM
Quote from: "RGMike"
Quote from: "Gazoo"
Didn't see a thread for this kind of stuff:

A stunningly long and compelling review of a book about the Brill Building era that I didn't even know was out:
http://www.nybooks.com/articles/18562


Damn! gotta put that one on my must-read list, along with Donovan's autobio.


BTW, Mike, have you ever given thought to putting your music musings in blog form?  From what you've posted our way, I've long felt you have a book inside you.

And I'm suddenly struck with the notion that *another* good book might be this: An "oral history" biography of the radio of the '70s, from the so far underexplored perspective of the fans.  I.e., us here.  I feel like I could send each of you a list of 15 artists/songs/genres, say "riff on this like you were hearing a radio playlist of it," take the responses and put everything in roughly chronological order, and have a volume that any music geek would completely salivate over.

Don't mind me; I'm just thinking out loud here.
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, et
Post by: RGMike on December 02, 2005, 07:13:09 AM
Quote from: "Gazoo"
Quote from: "RGMike"
Quote from: "Gazoo"
Didn't see a thread for this kind of stuff:

A stunningly long and compelling review of a book about the Brill Building era that I didn't even know was out:
http://www.nybooks.com/articles/18562


Damn! gotta put that one on my must-read list, along with Donovan's autobio.


BTW, Mike, have you ever given thought to putting your music musings in blog form?  From what you've posted our way, I've long felt you have a book inside you.

And I'm suddenly struck with the notion that *another* good book might be this: An "oral history" biography of the radio of the '70s, from the so far underexplored perspective of the fans.  I.e., us here.  I feel like I could send each of you a list of 15 artists/songs/genres, say "riff on this like you were hearing a radio playlist of it," take the responses and put everything in roughly chronological order, and have a volume that any music geek would completely salivate over.

Don't mind me; I'm just thinking out loud here.


I've been thinking about blogging for some time; but time is the issue, if ya know what I mean.
Title: Da Capo
Post by: Gazoo on January 24, 2007, 06:28:02 AM
It made my morning to find myself on this distribution list.  If any of you came across any excellent writing about music this past year, I'm all ears.
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Hi,

I'm the series editor for Da Capo Best Music Writing 2007. Every year I undertake the large but fantastic task of finding the best music writing of a year across many styles, formats and displines, but each year I am overwhelmed by the number of publications that run music coverage. I can't possibly read them all! I am hoping to enlist your help - send work for me to read!

This year, as in every year, I am looking for brilliant essays, profiles, news articles, interviews, creative non-fiction, fiction, book reviews, long-format reviews, blog posts, journal articles and the like. I am also excited to announce that I am accepting short album reviews for a special section of the book – please, if you are an editor of a magazine that runs a reviews section, email me with your reviews editor's contact information so I can get the ball rolling on this.

I ask you to please send your own best work, the work of your publication(s), great work of your friends and colleagues, and work that you have admired in passing throughout the year. You can send me email links, hard copies of articles, whole magazines (please paperclip/post-it the pages to read), or if need be, just the name/title/publication title/date and I will search the piece out myself. Feel free to mail/email me multiple times as you find more pieces that you love. I will be accepting work through the end of January.

{redacted address because I fear the spambots}

And finally, please feel free to forward this email widely to all of your contacts in the music writing and publishing community. I look forward to a deluge of mail from all of you in the very near future.

Thanks for another great year of writing,
Daphne
Title: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: Gazoo on February 06, 2007, 02:05:12 PM
Maybe this should be in the Gaz Self Indulgence thread but it's a print matter: Pazz & Jop '06 is out.
http://www.villagevoice.com/pazzandjop06/

My ballot:
http://www.villagevoice.com/pazzandjop06/ballots.php?cid=4707

Hope you find it entertaining.
Title: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: RGMike on February 06, 2007, 02:12:57 PM
Quote from: "Gazoo"
Maybe this should be in the Gaz Self Indulgence thread but it's a print matter: Pazz & Jop '06 is out.
http://www.villagevoice.com/pazzandjop06/

My ballot:
http://www.villagevoice.com/pazzandjop06/ballots.php?cid=4707

Hope you find it entertaining.


That Gnarls' album is only #5 is a shock; at least his single was #1.  Pipettes single DEF shoulda placed higher.
Title: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: Gazoo on February 06, 2007, 02:18:45 PM
PS: There was infighting and backbiting last week.  New Times sucks.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/eat-the-press/2007/02/05/intrigue-at-the-villa_e_40287.html

 Intrigue At The Village Voice: Leaked Pazz & Jop Essay The Work Of One Lone Nutbar or Village Voice Media Conspiracy?

Rachel Sklar |  Posted Monday February 5, 2007 at 03:35 PM

Last week, Gawker music blog Idolator broke a strange story: Apparently a rejected introduction to the Village Voice's venerable Pazz & Jop poll was leaked to the blog, and a strange and angry little rant it was, filled with venomous invective against uppity music blogs, their high-traffic parent companies, and that scourge of all media, NPR. It sort of burned your eyeballs to read it, frankly &mdah; here's a sample:

    "Although many of the stories referred to Pazz and Jop as a venerable and cherished institution, most of these media outlets had little or nothing to say about the poll in year's [sic]past, usually not reporting on it at all. They were only interested in our cultural treasure when someone tried to piss on it and they could add their own stream-of-conscience to the golden shower. NPR — an entity living off the teat of government subsidies and Ray Kroc's widow's transfat-drenched death money — decided there was a national story in a guy with a website doing a music poll just like the Village Voice"

Etc. etc. etc. But who wrote it? And who sent it? And more to the point, why? That is to say, it was ostensibly written by Bill Jensen, Village Voice Media (and Village Voice parent company) director of Web and digital operations and former editor of the Boston Phoenix . At first, Idolator was skeptical that anyone at an established media organization — much less corporate HQ — would write such a crazy, unhinged rant , but subsequent tips to the website suggested that it was, in fact, written by Jensen, had been submitted to Village Voice editor in chief David Blum and music editor Rob Harvilla, who elected not to publish it. We subsequently checked with Blum, who confirmed that the piece had been a legitimate submission: "I was submitted the piece for consideration and rejected it."

Under normal circumstances, that would have been that — except that someone decided to forward the screed to Idolator, weirdly the very same blog that had dared to start their own upstart poll, complained of so bitterly in the piece. Wow, that's embarrassing, especially after the Village Voice rejected the piece. Who would do such a thing?

Maybe...Bill Jensen? Idolator sussed out author info from the originally-emailed document indicating that the document came out of Denver; other sources have surmised that it was leaked from corporate HQ in Phoenix. Even without the leak, it's incredible to think that such an angry, defensive piece would have been sumbitted to the Village Voice, considering the tumult of the past year and the high-profile firing of Pazz & Jop founder Robert Christgau; it's also a surprising peek behind the curtain of top-down practices of Village Voice Media, submitting the piece as an introduction to the Village Voice in the first place, still a recent member of the New Times family, on a Village Voice feature that has evolved into a near-institution. And if Jensen — not some attention-hungry junior staffer, a top figure at Village Voice Media HQ — secretly sent it out for pickup after being turned down by the editors overseeing the package, it smacks of the kind of overweening, intrusive oversight that opponents of the Village Voice-New Times merger were so afraid of.

Anyhow, it's weird.

*Disclosure: I wrote a story for the Village Voice last November under the supervision of David Blum, but at no time did any draft contain the phrase "golden shower."
Title: old Bloom County strip
Post by: ggould on April 25, 2007, 10:36:42 PM
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Title: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: princessofcairo on April 26, 2007, 12:59:55 PM
Quote from: "Gazoo"
Maybe this should be in the Gaz Self Indulgence thread but it's a print matter: Pazz & Jop '06 is out.
http://www.villagevoice.com/pazzandjop06/

My ballot:
http://www.villagevoice.com/pazzandjop06/ballots.php?cid=4707

Hope you find it entertaining.


i didn't know scritti politti was still making music! and i had no idea half of the groups i recognised (which was about twelve) released new albums last year.
Title: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: Gazoo on June 14, 2007, 11:30:12 PM
Michelangelo Matos vs. Betty Davis:

http://www.slate.com/id/2167827/
Title: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: RGMike on June 15, 2007, 07:32:05 AM
Quote from: "Gazoo"
Michelangelo Matos vs. Betty Davis:

http://www.slate.com/id/2167827/


I was rearranging/sorting CDs the other nite and discovered poc had burned me a copy of Ms Davis' LP -- I'd completely forgotten. Must listen pronto.
Title: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: Gazoo on July 04, 2007, 09:34:51 AM
Sly Stone speaks!  (To Vanity Fair, of all pubs.)

http://www.vanityfair.com/fame/features/2007/08/sly200708
Title: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: RGMike on July 04, 2007, 09:55:33 PM
Quote from: "Gazoo"
Sly Stone speaks!  (To Vanity Fair, of all pubs.)


Everybody knows VF has the best coke.
Title: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: princessofcairo on July 13, 2007, 06:51:52 AM
Quote from: "Gazoo"
Michelangelo Matos vs. Betty Davis:

http://www.slate.com/id/2167827/


hmm...i'd agree with most of the criticism. but it's still fun. and raunchy fun, at that.
Title: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: RGMike on July 15, 2007, 11:27:45 AM
I wasn't aware of this, but the SJ Merc fired Brad Kava last month -- he got all of 2 weeks severance pay!  So he's started his own blog:

http://kavasradiosoup.blogspot.com/
Title: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: RGMike on July 25, 2007, 10:01:13 PM
Say it isn't so!  The Weekly World News is about to cease publishing!

http://www.reuters.com/article/industryNews/idUSN7O23037320070724

What will become of BatBoy???
Title: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: RGMike on September 18, 2007, 11:42:31 AM
"From now on... this is a FREE FESTIVAL!"

Ok, not exactly Woodstock, but after 2 years of charging a subscription fee for certain articles, the NY Times website is maiking everything free again:

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/18/business/media/18times.html?_r=1&oref=slogin
Title: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: Gazoo on October 16, 2007, 10:56:46 AM
Nice piece on Debbie Harry from the NY Times:
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/16/arts/music/16harr.html

Haven't heard any reviews of her new album.  I wasn't wowed by lead single "Two Times Blue."
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: Gazoo on January 11, 2008, 08:00:10 AM
For those who keep up with such things: Joe Levy is leaving Rolling Stone to become EIC of Blender.  I haven't read Blender since letting my subscription lapse two years ago, and it's been even longer since I bothered with RS, so no idea if this is a good thing.
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: RGMike on January 11, 2008, 08:11:46 AM
For those who keep up with such things: Joe Levy is leaving Rolling Stone to become EIC of Blender.  I haven't read Blender since letting my subscription lapse two years ago, and it's been even longer since I bothered with RS, so no idea if this is a good thing.

the guy who writes about politics for RS, Taibbi (forget his first name; wonder if he's related to Mike Taibbi of NBC fame) was on Colbert this week; he seemed rather unintelligent in a stoner/surfer-dude kinda way. I was not impressed
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: Gazoo on January 11, 2008, 08:37:03 AM
For those who keep up with such things: Joe Levy is leaving Rolling Stone to become EIC of Blender.  I haven't read Blender since letting my subscription lapse two years ago, and it's been even longer since I bothered with RS, so no idea if this is a good thing.

the guy who writes about politics for RS, Taibbi (forget his first name; wonder if he's related to Mike Taibbi of NBC fame) was on Colbert this week; he seemed rather unintelligent in a stoner/surfer-dude kinda way. I was not impressed

Matt.  He used to write for the NY Press (the Voice's competition) and showed a lot of talent that he often undermined with gonzo stunts.  But he's one of the few lively voices out there among the young.
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: Gazoo on February 23, 2008, 07:34:21 AM
Even for Maxim, this is a low:

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/arts/AP-Music-Black-Crowes-Maxim.html

NEW YORK (AP) -- The Black Crowes are lashing out at Maxim magazine for reviewing the band's new album -- apparently without actually hearing it first.

The review, published in Maxim's March issue, gives the Crowes' ''Warpaint'' a rating of two-and-a-half stars out of five.

''The writer -- who has not heard the album since advance CDs were not made available -- wrote what appears to be a disparaging assessment anyway, citing, `it hasn't left Chris Robinson and the gang much room for growth,''' said a statement on the band's official Web site.

The band's manager, Pete Angelus, said the magazine explained that its review was an ''educated guess.''  . . .
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: urth on February 23, 2008, 01:00:46 PM
Even for Maxim, this is a low:

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/arts/AP-Music-Black-Crowes-Maxim.html

NEW YORK (AP) -- The Black Crowes are lashing out at Maxim magazine for reviewing the band's new album -- apparently without actually hearing it first.

The review, published in Maxim's March issue, gives the Crowes' ''Warpaint'' a rating of two-and-a-half stars out of five.

''The writer -- who has not heard the album since advance CDs were not made available -- wrote what appears to be a disparaging assessment anyway, citing, `it hasn't left Chris Robinson and the gang much room for growth,''' said a statement on the band's official Web site.

The band's manager, Pete Angelus, said the magazine explained that its review was an ''educated guess.''  . . .

Reminscent of a situation at our very own SF Chronicle a number of years ago. Music reviewer Heuwell Tircuit wrote an uncomplimentary review of a classical performance (don't recall if it was the symphony or another ensemble), and singled out a particular piece for his scorn. Turns out, at the last minute the program had been changed, and said piece had not been performed on the night he allegedly reviewed. His career at the Chronicle was essentially over when this came to light.
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: RGMike on February 23, 2008, 05:24:01 PM
Even for Maxim, this is a low:

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/arts/AP-Music-Black-Crowes-Maxim.html

NEW YORK (AP) -- The Black Crowes are lashing out at Maxim magazine for reviewing the band's new album -- apparently without actually hearing it first.

The review, published in Maxim's March issue, gives the Crowes' ''Warpaint'' a rating of two-and-a-half stars out of five.

''The writer -- who has not heard the album since advance CDs were not made available -- wrote what appears to be a disparaging assessment anyway, citing, `it hasn't left Chris Robinson and the gang much room for growth,''' said a statement on the band's official Web site.

The band's manager, Pete Angelus, said the magazine explained that its review was an ''educated guess.''  . . .

Reminscent of a situation at our very own SF Chronicle a number of years ago. Music reviewer Heuwell Tircuit wrote an uncomplimentary review of a classical performance (don't recall if it was the symphony or another ensemble), and singled out a particular piece for his scorn. Turns out, at the last minute the program had been changed, and said piece had not been performed on the night he allegedly reviewed. His career at the Chronicle was essentially over when this came to light.

He took a rather Tircuitous route to unemployment.   ;)

Reminds me of an old Peter Sellers movie where he plays a theater critic. He's having an affair, and in order to be with his mistress, he skips a play he's supposed to see and writes a bogus review and slips it under his editors door. The review runs the next day -- on the same page as a story about how the theater burned down on opening night!
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: Gazoo on August 11, 2008, 10:48:55 PM
Filed under "plagiarism is fun!":

http://www.slate.com/id/2196810/pagenum/all/

PS: I've met Jody Rosen, the author of this piece, a few times at EMP Pop Conferences.  Wonderful guy with an astonishingly erudite knowledge of vaudeville and pre-vaudeville tuneage.
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: princessofcairo on August 14, 2008, 11:32:07 AM
Filed under "plagiarism is fun!":

http://www.slate.com/id/2196810/pagenum/all/

PS: I've met Jody Rosen, the author of this piece, a few times at EMP Pop Conferences.  Wonderful guy with an astonishingly erudite knowledge of vaudeville and pre-vaudeville tuneage.

that's sad. reminds me of the haydensen flick...but without the compensation pomp.
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: Gazoo on September 18, 2008, 06:02:16 PM
Ann Powers is one of the best music journos out there - she puts her utter heart into every project she takes on - and this is one of her better pieces, a talk with Dolly Parton as a 9 to 5 musical (!) approaches next year:

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/music/la-ca-dolly21-2008sep21,1,6692849.story

(Guess we could use a "Music in Theater" thread, huh?)
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: RGMike on September 18, 2008, 08:31:10 PM
(Guess we could use a "Music in Theater" thread, huh?)

Or just a Theater (in general) thread.
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: Alicat on October 27, 2008, 08:54:34 PM
Maybe not the best thread but since it originated from the Journal...

Should I really be shocked? Well I was. Earlier in the week was reading the WSJ and there was an article about Trophy Kids and the Millennial generation. Just googled and found article at http://www.careerjournal.com/article/SB122455219391652725.html

Youngsters demanding jobs shape to their life style vs. having to buck up and get things done as your employer wants them done. I know times change and often for the better but this surprised me. Why do employers let it happen? Too costly to train new people? Are the kids really brighter than the majority of the unemployed seeking work? Hell no!
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: princessofcairo on October 29, 2008, 11:44:32 AM
Maybe not the best thread but since it originated from the Journal...

Should I really be shocked? Well I was. Earlier in the week was reading the WSJ and there was an article about Trophy Kids and the Millennial generation. Just googled and found article at http://www.careerjournal.com/article/SB122455219391652725.html

Youngsters demanding jobs shape to their life style vs. having to buck up and get things done as your employer wants them done. I know times change and often for the better but this surprised me. Why do employers let it happen? Too costly to train new people? Are the kids really brighter than the majority of the unemployed seeking work? Hell no!

this is hardly surprising - look at how we behave in everyday society! can't stand to wait in lines, run people over because we're not looking when we step off the train because we're on our cellphones. we feel entitled to other people's space for the mere reason that we exist. why shouldn't the milliennials feel entitled to promotions and other benefits merely for showing up to work?

i think the millennials are rubbing off on the rest of us. or maybe we're just struggling to keep up? either way, everyone needs to be checked, imho.
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: urth on February 27, 2009, 01:29:30 PM
Sad day in Denver: Scripps is closing the Rocky Mountain News--today is their final edition.
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/

Denver was one of only a few cities left with two major dailies, but I think we're going to see a few towns with no dailies by the time this recession is done. And I truly hope San Francisco is not one of them.
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: RGMike on February 27, 2009, 01:37:03 PM
Sad day in Denver: Scripps is closing the Rocky Mountain News--today is their final edition.
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/

Denver was one of only a few cities left with two major dailies, but I think we're going to see a few towns with no dailies by the time this recession is done. And I truly hope San Francisco is not one of them.

if the Chron goes under, there's still (for better or worse -- mostly worse) the Examiner, which is now owned by a deep-pocketed Christian gazillionaire. But yeah, I'm rooting for the Chron to stay alive.
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: Lightnin' Rod on February 27, 2009, 02:32:31 PM
Sad day in Denver: Scripps is closing the Rocky Mountain News--today is their final edition.
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/

Denver was one of only a few cities left with two major dailies, but I think we're going to see a few towns with no dailies by the time this recession is done. And I truly hope San Francisco is not one of them.

if the Chron goes under, there's still (for better or worse -- mostly worse) the Examiner, which is now owned by a deep-pocketed Christian gazillionaire. But yeah, I'm rooting for the Chron to stay alive.

Lately the Examiner has had people on the street in downtown SF forcing Examiners on people in the morning.  "Free Examiner", they say, pushing a paper at you.  Isn't it already free?

Anyway, I sincerely hope the Chron can hold on.  Our household still subscribes, though I am more likely to go to sfgate.com than read the actual paper (but my roommate still reads it). 
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: Tinka Cat on February 27, 2009, 04:28:12 PM
Sad day in Denver: Scripps is closing the Rocky Mountain News--today is their final edition.
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/

Denver was one of only a few cities left with two major dailies, but I think we're going to see a few towns with no dailies by the time this recession is done. And I truly hope San Francisco is not one of them.

if the Chron goes under, there's still (for better or worse -- mostly worse) the Examiner, which is now owned by a deep-pocketed Christian gazillionaire. But yeah, I'm rooting for the Chron to stay alive.

Lately the Examiner has had people on the street in downtown SF forcing Examiners on people in the morning.  "Free Examiner", they say, pushing a paper at you.  Isn't it already free?

Anyway, I sincerely hope the Chron can hold on.  Our household still subscribes, though I am more likely to go to sfgate.com than read the actual paper (but my roommate still reads it). 

yay! glad to hear you subscribe  I work at the Chron (actually i work at SFGate) and we like to hear that.  I know the paper has changed a lot in recent years, and I'd rather chat about specifics in some other non-public forum, but print subscribers are dwindling.  I know many folks get their news from online sources now, and SFGate might someday do things differently in re: the content of the Chron.   Folks here are pretty worried of course.

many of us here thought this was interesting:

A Great City Forced to Read Flackery (http://www.cjr.org/behind_the_news/a_great_city_forced_to_read_fl.php)



Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: SFGuy on February 28, 2009, 03:20:23 AM
Sad day in Denver: Scripps is closing the Rocky Mountain News--today is their final edition.
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/

Denver was one of only a few cities left with two major dailies, but I think we're going to see a few towns with no dailies by the time this recession is done. And I truly hope San Francisco is not one of them.

The recession hasn't helped but newspapers have been in trouble for several years now because you could read the newspaper online for free.
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: urth on February 28, 2009, 11:14:42 AM
Sad day in Denver: Scripps is closing the Rocky Mountain News--today is their final edition.
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/

Denver was one of only a few cities left with two major dailies, but I think we're going to see a few towns with no dailies by the time this recession is done. And I truly hope San Francisco is not one of them.

The recession hasn't helped but newspapers have been in trouble for several years now because you could read the newspaper online for free.

That's part of it, but there's a lot of reasons why newspapers are hurting, also related to the internet. Reduced advertising, both commercial and classified, because advertisers are devoting more of their ad budgets to the web, and classified ads are all going to craigslist for free.
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: Gazoo on March 01, 2009, 09:36:15 PM
Sad day in Denver: Scripps is closing the Rocky Mountain News--today is their final edition.
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/

Denver was one of only a few cities left with two major dailies, but I think we're going to see a few towns with no dailies by the time this recession is done. And I truly hope San Francisco is not one of them.

The recession hasn't helped but newspapers have been in trouble for several years now because you could read the newspaper online for free.

That's part of it, but there's a lot of reasons why newspapers are hurting, also related to the internet. Reduced advertising, both commercial and classified, because advertisers are devoting more of their ad budgets to the web, and classified ads are all going to craigslist for free.
The Village Voice's business model was demolished by Craigslist.  (And then its editorial side was demolished by New Times, but that's for another day.)
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: urth on March 16, 2009, 12:35:09 PM
Another man down: Tomorrow's print edition will be the last for the Seattle Post-Intelligencer. Their online presence will continue, however.
http://www.seattlepi.com/business/403793_piclosure17.html?tsp=1

This is one scenario of what could happen to the Chron. I haven't heard if the union concessions granted a few weeks ago are enough for Hearst to pull back its threat to shutter the paper if it can't be sold.
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: Tinka Cat on March 16, 2009, 03:03:33 PM
Another man down: Tomorrow's print edition will be the last for the Seattle Post-Intelligencer. Their online presence will continue, however.
http://www.seattlepi.com/business/403793_piclosure17.html?tsp=1

This is one scenario of what could happen to the Chron. I haven't heard if the union concessions granted a few weeks ago are enough for Hearst to pull back its threat to shutter the paper if it can't be sold.

no one yet knows if the 150 jobs that the Union agreed to eliminate will be enough, but it's hard to fathom that alone will make up the $50M plus the Chron will lose this year.  Other non-Union jobs will have to go for one thing, and look for a different kind of SFGate at some point, one that does not give away the entire paper for free.
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: SFGuy on March 17, 2009, 01:23:59 AM
I guess this is related to the above.


Pelosi goes to bat to keep Bay Area papers alive
Zachary Coile, Chronicle Washington Bureau
Tuesday, March 17, 2009

(03-17) 04:00 PDT Washington --

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, worried about the fate of The Chronicle and other financially struggling newspapers, urged the Justice Department Monday to consider giving Bay Area papers more leeway to merge or consolidate business operations to stay afloat.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/03/16/MNIA16GCBO.DTL
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Post by: RGMike on March 31, 2009, 08:46:21 AM
The Chicago Sun-Times files for bankruptcy:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/01/business/media/01paper.html?_r=1&hp
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: Gazoo on March 31, 2009, 10:12:16 AM
The Chicago Sun-Times files for bankruptcy:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/01/business/media/01paper.html?_r=1&hp

Sigh ...   :-[
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: RGMike on April 30, 2009, 11:56:47 AM
A terrific take-down of SF Weekly by SFGate's sex columnist, Violet Blue:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2009/04/30/violetblue0430.DTL

Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: SFGuy on May 05, 2009, 11:43:43 PM
Another one bites the dust. Goodbye, the Onion in SF and LA.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/05/05/BU4917F6QA.DTL&tsp=1
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: RGMike on May 19, 2009, 11:13:57 AM
Hey, didya know that Every. Single. Issue of Billboard magazine is viewable on-line thanks to Google? Amazing stuff:

http://books.google.com/books?id=jhQEAAAAMBAJ&dq=billboard&source=gbs_summary_s&cad=0#all_issues_anchor
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: SFGuy on May 19, 2009, 11:26:37 PM
Hey, didya know that Every. Single. Issue of Billboard magazine is viewable on-line thanks to Google? Amazing stuff:

http://books.google.com/books?id=jhQEAAAAMBAJ&dq=billboard&source=gbs_summary_s&cad=0#all_issues_anchor

Actually not every issue. I'm checking 1981 and the 1st half isn't listed.

While I have the Hot 100 Chart books, it's fun reading some of the other charts and articles.
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: Tinka Cat on May 20, 2009, 07:49:42 AM
Hey, didya know that Every. Single. Issue of Billboard magazine is viewable on-line thanks to Google? Amazing stuff:

http://books.google.com/books?id=jhQEAAAAMBAJ&dq=billboard&source=gbs_summary_s&cad=0#all_issues_anchor

Actually not every issue. I'm checking 1981 and the 1st half isn't listed.

While I have the Hot 100 Chart books, it's fun reading some of the other charts and articles.

pretty awesome.  This could suck away a lot of time.
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Post by: Alicat on May 20, 2009, 10:28:54 PM
Hey, didya know that Every. Single. Issue of Billboard magazine is viewable on-line thanks to Google? Amazing stuff:

http://books.google.com/books?id=jhQEAAAAMBAJ&dq=billboard&source=gbs_summary_s&cad=0#all_issues_anchor

Actually not every issue. I'm checking 1981 and the 1st half isn't listed.

While I have the Hot 100 Chart books, it's fun reading some of the other charts and articles.

pretty awesome.  This could suck away a lot of time.
Wow, serious flashbacks
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Post by: urth on May 21, 2009, 11:47:00 PM
Copied this over from the Local radio thread, as it's a bit more on topic here:

http://sfppc.blogspot.com/2009/05/k-fox-sale-near-goodbye-greg-kihn.html

Check out the list of fired or bought-out Chronicle staff on the left column. Quite a few names there that are old timers, and will be missed: Edward Guthmann, Jesse Hamlin, Steve Winn, Ruthe Stein, Sylvia Rubin, Joel Selvin--all longtime Datebook writers, Nancy Gay and Gwen Knapp from the sports desk, Steve Rubinstein, a ton of photographers, a ton of copy editors, and more I'm not even mentioning. Christ, it's going to be very quiet at Myth and Fission from here on.
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: Tinka Cat on May 22, 2009, 07:45:37 AM
Copied this over from the Local radio thread, as it's a bit more on topic here:

http://sfppc.blogspot.com/2009/05/k-fox-sale-near-goodbye-greg-kihn.html

Check out the list of fired or bought-out Chronicle staff on the left column. Quite a few names there that are old timers, and will be missed: Edward Guthmann, Jesse Hamlin, Steve Winn, Ruthe Stein, Sylvia Rubin, Joel Selvin--all longtime Datebook writers, Nancy Gay and Gwen Knapp from the sports desk, Steve Rubinstein, a ton of photographers, a ton of copy editors, and more I'm not even mentioning. Christ, it's going to be very quiet at Myth and Fission from here on.

it's so sad. So much talent has left the building.  many empty cubes, much stress.
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: RGMike on June 03, 2009, 12:33:25 PM
RIP Radio & Records:

http://www.radioandrecords.com/RRWebSite20/
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Post by: Lightnin' Rod on June 16, 2009, 09:09:41 AM
Peter Hartlaub needs a higher concept (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/06/16/DD6D1873TL.DTL&type=music)

Am I the only one who finds Hartlaub's recent high-concept fluff peices just a bit forced and dumbed down?  I know the Chron is trying to attract readers, but I don't feel his heart is really in these.
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: RGMike on June 16, 2009, 09:14:45 AM
Peter Hartlaub needs a higher concept (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/06/16/DD6D1873TL.DTL&type=music)

Am I the only one who finds Hartlaub's recent high-concept fluff peices just a bit forced and dumbed down?  I know the Chron is trying to attract readers, but I don't feel his heart is really in these.

I guess in this case he's trying to be the new Joel Selvin (who was laid off). But yeah, he's all over the place, reviewing movies, theater, writing "The Poop" (their parenting blog)... 
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: Tinka Cat on June 16, 2009, 05:24:25 PM
Peter Hartlaub needs a higher concept (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/06/16/DD6D1873TL.DTL&type=music)

Am I the only one who finds Hartlaub's recent high-concept fluff peices just a bit forced and dumbed down?  I know the Chron is trying to attract readers, but I don't feel his heart is really in these.

I guess in this case he's trying to be the new Joel Selvin (who was laid off). But yeah, he's all over the place, reviewing movies, theater, writing "The Poop" (their parenting blog)... 

yes, he's done better pieces, that's true --  it's fluffy, but it's only pop music.  :)   Since his beat is "Pop Culture" and not just pop music, he goes all over the place.  nice gig.
 
And unlike Joel Selvin, Peter Hartlaub can write about this subject and include a wide range of pop references -- like Tupac -- and not sound like a befuddled dinosaur windbag.  He knows what people like to read and comment on: it's got 225 comment so far, and his blog posts often stir up a lot of conversation.  He's been doing this kind of piece for a while. He did one where he came out of the closet as a Rush fan that was pretty good.  It lovingly touched many people here.   The article even quotes Dave Morey (he loves Barry Manilow) -- Read it here (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2004/07/09/DDG9C7HBR527.DTL).   

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Post by: Lightnin' Rod on June 17, 2009, 09:31:59 AM
... and not sound like a befuddled dinosaur windbag.  He knows what people like to read and comment on: it's got 225 comment so far


I wonder just when Joel went from "elitist, know-it-all blowhard" to "befuddled dinosaur windbag" -- growing old sucks.

I wasn't trying to put down Hartlaub too much, but I have issues writing articles just because he knows people will get riled up and make lots of comments.  Say what you will about Selvin, but he wasn't one to pander to his audience. 

But again, this is pop culture reporting, and it really is okay.  Just not up to this befuddled dinosaur's standards.   ;D
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: RGMike on June 17, 2009, 09:54:42 AM
And unlike Joel Selvin, Peter Hartlaub can write about this subject and include a wide range of pop references -- like Tupac -- and not sound like a befuddled dinosaur windbag.  He knows what people like to read and comment on: it's got 225 comment so far, and his blog posts often stir up a lot of conversation.  He's been doing this kind of piece for a while. He did one where he came out of the closet as a Rush fan that was pretty good.  It lovingly touched many people here.   The article even quotes Dave Morey (he loves Barry Manilow) -- Read it here (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2004/07/09/DDG9C7HBR527.DTL).   


Interesting that he got the media-shy Dave to speak for attribution.  And the date on that was in 2004 -- 4 years before Hartlaub called Dave a "crank".
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: Tinka Cat on June 17, 2009, 11:43:15 AM
... and not sound like a befuddled dinosaur windbag.  He knows what people like to read and comment on: it's got 225 comment so far


I wonder just when Joel went from "elitist, know-it-all blowhard" to "befuddled dinosaur windbag" -- growing old sucks.

I wasn't trying to put down Hartlaub too much, but I have issues writing articles just because he knows people will get riled up and make lots of comments.  Say what you will about Selvin, but he wasn't one to pander to his audience. 

But again, this is pop culture reporting, and it really is okay.  Just not up to this befuddled dinosaur's standards.   ;D

yes, Peter does shoot from the hip more than Joel.  Peter is def younger and I think his writing reflects that a lot. He seems more fun than Joel, although I've never hung out w Joel, so who knows?  What's weird is that Joel was the "Senior Pop Music Critic" when he left the Chronicle, but I think -- to him -- pop music stopped in the mid-70s.
 ???   :P
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: Lightnin' Rod on June 17, 2009, 12:20:34 PM
... and not sound like a befuddled dinosaur windbag.  He knows what people like to read and comment on: it's got 225 comment so far


I wonder just when Joel went from "elitist, know-it-all blowhard" to "befuddled dinosaur windbag" -- growing old sucks.

I wasn't trying to put down Hartlaub too much, but I have issues writing articles just because he knows people will get riled up and make lots of comments.  Say what you will about Selvin, but he wasn't one to pander to his audience. 

But again, this is pop culture reporting, and it really is okay.  Just not up to this befuddled dinosaur's standards.   ;D

yes, Peter does shoot from the hip more than Joel.  Peter is def younger and I think his writing reflects that a lot. He seems more fun than Joel, although I've never hung out w Joel, so who knows?  What's weird is that Joel was the "Senior Pop Music Critic" when he left the Chronicle, but I think -- to him -- pop music stopped in the mid-70s.
 ???   :P


Joel taught Rock 1 and 2 at SF State -- I took both classes (eta:  circa 1979, 80).  And you are pretty much correct about his conception of popular music, though to him I don't think it even made into the '70s, period.

The classes were a blast, however, and you could tell the man truly loved his music.  Lecturing, he was somewhat annoying and in your face, but when he put a record on, he transformed into just another fan.
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: Gazoo on June 17, 2009, 08:59:25 PM
Years ago I wrote a note to Selvin expressing my interest in breaking into rock journalism.  He invited me over for a brief chat (he lived on Potrero HIll at the time); his basement was a library of shelves of vinyl and other music formats, and he had a full-sized jukebox in his kitchen.
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: urth on June 17, 2009, 10:24:31 PM
Years ago I wrote a note to Selvin expressing my interest in breaking into rock journalism.  He invited me over for a brief chat (he lived on Potrero HIll at the time); his basement was a library of shelves of vinyl and other music formats, and he had a full-sized jukebox in his kitchen.

Anyone know if he's still married to Keta Bill, who was one of the vocalists for Big Bang Beat/Zasu Pitts Memorial Orch? He had to take a little hiatus from the Chron a few years back when it came out he was using his column to promote his wife's gigs. Little conflict of interest. Just a little.
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: RGMike on June 18, 2009, 07:47:21 AM
Years ago I wrote a note to Selvin expressing my interest in breaking into rock journalism.  He invited me over for a brief chat (he lived on Potrero HIll at the time); his basement was a library of shelves of vinyl and other music formats, and he had a full-sized jukebox in his kitchen.

So they're not kidding on his Sunday nite radio show when they say "live from his basement record library on Potrero Hill..."
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: urth on July 05, 2009, 12:58:27 AM
The Washington Post has a good bit of its credibility at stake after it came out that they were offering to sell sponsorships for off-the-record "salons" with access to Post editors and reporters as well as highly placed members of Congress and other politicians. Their publisher, Katharine Weymouth, after trying to point the finger at their marketing department for arranging this debacle, is finally taking responsibility. The invitations to these "salons" were sent from her personal e-mail address, and were to be held at her home.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/04/business/media/04post.html

Weymouth is the granddaughter of legendary Post publisher Katherine Graham, and the daughter of Newsweek senior editor Lally* Weymouth. And, in the "it's a small world" department, she is the niece of Talking Heads bassist Tina Weymouth.

And if I might venture a guess, she's also a fucking idiot.

*And apropos of nothing, I'd also like to mention that every time I read about a grown adult who goes by some waspy, baby-talk nickname that smacks of a bunch of Ivy League sorority sisters, I am truly disgusted.
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: mshray on July 29, 2009, 02:47:16 PM
Anyone who has ever been intersted in this topic needs to read this. (http://blogs.harvardbusiness.org/haque/2009/07/the_nichepaper_manifesto.html)
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: Wayback on November 03, 2009, 11:28:22 PM
Article and short video clips provide insights into the personalities of Lennon, Bono, Dylan, Springsteen, Janis Joplin, Michael Jackson from longtime music critic of the LA Times. All of this is chronicled in his new memoir, "Corn Flakes with John Lennon (and Other Tales From a Rock 'n' Roll Life)" (the clips will run automatically one after another):
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/la-ca-hilburn-lennon11-2009oct11,0,2380230,full.story
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: Gazoo on November 03, 2009, 11:57:20 PM
Time Inc. laid off some Sports Illustrated staffers today.  More cuts are coming in the morning - perhaps to the tune of 400-500.  And I might be among them - as my boss had to acknowledge to me tonight, although my work has been stellar, I'm still kinda low on the seniority totem pole.

I'll know more in the afternoon.  Sigh.
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: RGMike on November 04, 2009, 07:40:48 AM
Time Inc. laid off some Sports Illustrated staffers today.  More cuts are coming in the morning - perhaps to the tune of 400-500.  And I might be among them - as my boss had to acknowledge to me tonight, although my work has been stellar, I'm still kinda low on the seniority totem pole.

I'll know more in the afternoon.  Sigh.

Fingers crossed for ya, bub.
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: Tinka Cat on November 04, 2009, 08:05:06 AM
Time Inc. laid off some Sports Illustrated staffers today.  More cuts are coming in the morning - perhaps to the tune of 400-500.  And I might be among them - as my boss had to acknowledge to me tonight, although my work has been stellar, I'm still kinda low on the seniority totem pole.

I'll know more in the afternoon.  Sigh.

oy.. like RGM said, fingers crossed.  Not sure how big Time, Inc. is, but 400-500 cuts seems huge.  The Chron has prob cut close to 300 or so (I may be waaay off, could be more...), but those cuts took place over many months.  If Times wants to strip that many jobs, they must have titles all over the place. 
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: urth on November 04, 2009, 11:57:09 AM
Time Inc. laid off some Sports Illustrated staffers today.  More cuts are coming in the morning - perhaps to the tune of 400-500.  And I might be among them - as my boss had to acknowledge to me tonight, although my work has been stellar, I'm still kinda low on the seniority totem pole.

I'll know more in the afternoon.  Sigh.

Fingers crossed for ya, bub.

Likewise, my thoughts are with ya. One thing you have going for you by virtue of your junior-ity: you're probably not making as much as the folks who have been there long-term. So if they're looking to cut significant costs, that might work to your advantage.

400 to 500 positions in one fell swoop does sound pretty extensive. This recession is far from over.
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: RGMike on November 05, 2009, 10:58:50 AM
Time Inc. laid off some Sports Illustrated staffers today.  More cuts are coming in the morning - perhaps to the tune of 400-500.  And I might be among them - as my boss had to acknowledge to me tonight, although my work has been stellar, I'm still kinda low on the seniority totem pole.

I'll know more in the afternoon.  Sigh.

Fingers crossed for ya, bub.

Likewise, my thoughts are with ya. One thing you have going for you by virtue of your junior-ity: you're probably not making as much as the folks who have been there long-term. So if they're looking to cut significant costs, that might work to your advantage.

400 to 500 positions in one fell swoop does sound pretty extensive. This recession is far from over.

anyone heard anything from Gaz? The silence is kinda... ominous.  I read elsewhere that EW (also part of Time Inc) laid off some folks yesterday too.
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: urth on November 05, 2009, 11:33:39 AM
Time Inc. laid off some Sports Illustrated staffers today.  More cuts are coming in the morning - perhaps to the tune of 400-500.  And I might be among them - as my boss had to acknowledge to me tonight, although my work has been stellar, I'm still kinda low on the seniority totem pole.

I'll know more in the afternoon.  Sigh.

Fingers crossed for ya, bub.

Likewise, my thoughts are with ya. One thing you have going for you by virtue of your junior-ity: you're probably not making as much as the folks who have been there long-term. So if they're looking to cut significant costs, that might work to your advantage.

400 to 500 positions in one fell swoop does sound pretty extensive. This recession is far from over.

anyone heard anything from Gaz? The silence is kinda... ominous.  I read elsewhere that EW (also part of Time Inc) laid off some folks yesterday too.

Nary a peep, but he did post a typically angry and pointed FB status aimed at the Catholic church's support of the Maine "marriage protection" measure a little while ago.

Hoping he was able to dodge the axe.
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: RGMike on November 05, 2009, 11:57:49 AM
anyone heard anything from Gaz? The silence is kinda... ominous.  I read elsewhere that EW (also part of Time Inc) laid off some folks yesterday too.

Nary a peep, but he did post a typically angry and pointed FB status aimed at the Catholic church's support of the Maine "marriage protection" measure a little while ago.

Hoping he was able to dodge the axe.

LOL! just saw his post, to which i say "Ditto, and right on mah brotha!" 
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: Gazoo on November 05, 2009, 08:07:34 PM
Thanks for your concern; my silence was merely busy-ness at work.

I'll share the job info privately, but to confirm: I am still employed for at least the next two weeks.  But I have some decisions to make.
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: RGMike on November 16, 2009, 10:59:21 AM
Company closes a bunch of gay newspapers, including Southern Voice and the Washington Blade (which just celebrated its 40th anniv):

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2009/11/16/financial/f082518S53.DTL&tsp=1
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: Wayback on November 22, 2009, 10:09:47 AM
Check your loo!
Rare Darwin book found on toilet bookshelf
(11-22) 07:31 PST LONDON, United Kingdom (AP) --
An auction house says it is selling a rare first edition of Charles Darwin's "On the Origin of Species" found in a family's guest lavatory in southern England.
Christie's auction house said Sunday the book — one of around 1,250 copies first printed in 1859 — had been on a toilet bookshelf at a family's home in Oxford.
The book will be auctioned on Tuesday, the 150th anniversary of the publication of the famous work. Christie's said the book is likely to sell for 60,000 pounds ($99,000).
Darwin's "The Origin of Species" outlined his theory of natural selection, the foundation for the modern understanding of evolution.
Celebrations around the world this year have marked the 200th anniversary of Darwin's birth.
On the Net: Darwin's Collected Works: http://darwin-online.org.uk/
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: Gazoo on November 22, 2009, 05:05:45 PM
Book: the origin of feces
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: Tinka Cat on November 22, 2009, 09:13:59 PM
Check your loo!
Rare Darwin book found on toilet bookshelf
(11-22) 07:31 PST LONDON, United Kingdom (AP) --
An auction house says it is selling a rare first edition of Charles Darwin's "On the Origin of Species" found in a family's guest lavatory in southern England.
Christie's auction house said Sunday the book — one of around 1,250 copies first printed in 1859 — had been on a toilet bookshelf at a family's home in Oxford.
The book will be auctioned on Tuesday, the 150th anniversary of the publication of the famous work. Christie's said the book is likely to sell for 60,000 pounds ($99,000).
Darwin's "The Origin of Species" outlined his theory of natural selection, the foundation for the modern understanding of evolution.
Celebrations around the world this year have marked the 200th anniversary of Darwin's birth.
On the Net: Darwin's Collected Works: http://darwin-online.org.uk/

amazing..  It was purchased for a few shillings in a shop about 40 years ago. 

I bet it won't fetch nearly enough since it was in the bathroom all that time.  (Anyone remember the Seinfled episode where George was browsing in Barnes and Noble's and then had to buy a book after he took it to the men's room..?  :) )
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: RGMike on December 17, 2009, 11:16:18 AM
So the biggest movie of the month (if not the year) opens and the Chron assigns the mediocre, Houston-based Amy Biancolli to review Avatar.  Mick was busy?  Lots of irate comments on SFGate about this turn of events.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/12/17/DDUR1B4K4H.DTL
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: urth on January 17, 2010, 11:54:04 PM
Noted that as of today, the Chron is withholding some of its content from SFGate until Tuesday to "provide a better reading experience for our print subscribers." Sounds more like "we're hoping a few of our Internet readers will kick down the $3 for a Sunday paper to read Ostler, Ratto, Matier & Ross, and Willie Brown." I guess desperate times call for desperate measures.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/stew/detail?entry_id=55385

By the way, I found Ray Ratto's column with today's date quite easily on the SFGate today, so not sure why his name is included in those being embargoed from the web.
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: Tinka Cat on January 18, 2010, 08:22:36 AM
Noted that as of today, the Chron is withholding some of its content from SFGate until Tuesday to "provide a better reading experience for our print subscribers." Sounds more like "we're hoping a few of our Internet readers will kick down the $3 for a Sunday paper to read Ostler, Ratto, Matier & Ross, and Willie Brown." I guess desperate times call for desperate measures.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/stew/detail?entry_id=55385

By the way, I found Ray Ratto's column with today's date quite easily on the SFGate today, so not sure why his name is included in those being embargoed from the web.

Yes, that's kind of how it's supposed to work.  "Please buy the print so you can read what Willie Brown has to say right now.  Or wait until Tuesday."  One wag in the comments commented "I can wait until Tueswday or 2015 to hear what Willie has to say... whichever comes first."  I can understand that.   

People are so used to getting it for free by now.  The horse is out of the barn.  Stay tuned for different monetization choices, y'all, like paying to read online.  Someday that will happen... *gulp*

PS: while you found a piece written by Ratto yesterday, it wasn't his Sports front page column -- it was just a short rundown of the upcoming NFL games.

Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: Lightnin' Rod on January 18, 2010, 08:59:11 AM
Noted that as of today, the Chron is withholding some of its content from SFGate until Tuesday to "provide a better reading experience for our print subscribers." Sounds more like "we're hoping a few of our Internet readers will kick down the $3 for a Sunday paper to read Ostler, Ratto, Matier & Ross, and Willie Brown." I guess desperate times call for desperate measures.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/stew/detail?entry_id=55385

By the way, I found Ray Ratto's column with today's date quite easily on the SFGate today, so not sure why his name is included in those being embargoed from the web.

Yes, that's kind of how it's supposed to work.  "Please buy the print so you can read what Willie Brown has to say right now.  Or wait until Tuesday."  One wag in the comments commented "I can wait until Tueswday or 2015 to hear what Willie has to say... whichever comes first."  I can understand that.   

People are so used to getting it for free by now.  The horse is out of the barn.  Stay tuned for different monetization choices, y'all, like paying to read online.  Someday that will happen... *gulp*

PS: while you found a piece written by Ratto yesterday, it wasn't his Sports front page column -- it was just a short rundown of the upcoming NFL games.



No Jon Carrol column in SFGate today.  Did he have a day off, or will today's column show up tomorrow?  No way of knowing, which maybe defeats the purpose.  The paper followed my old roomate when I moved.  Thinking about subscribing ...

I have no issue with them trying to find ways to make some money.  It'd a horrible situation.  If nothing else, they need to be able to pay Tinka (and Jon Carrol).
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: Tinka Cat on April 13, 2010, 08:20:17 AM
EXTRA! EXTRA!

SFGate editorial cartoonist Mark Fiore wins Pulitzer!
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/04/13/MNON1CTHIB.DTL

So who wants to buy a subscription to sfgate.com?   

Oh, wait.... never mind... it's free...   aw, crap.
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: RGMike on April 13, 2010, 08:27:39 AM
EXTRA! EXTRA!

SFGate editorial cartoonist Mark Fiore wins Pulitzer!

so Mick LaSalle was passed over again, eh? ;D
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: RGMike on October 29, 2010, 07:33:17 AM
Holy s**t!! Tim Goodman's last column for the Chron -- he's going to the Hollywood Reporter (but he gets to stay in SF):

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/10/29/DDMH1G2MHR.DTL
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: sundaygal on November 17, 2010, 02:13:49 PM
Ryan Reynolds was just named Sexiest Man Alive by People magazine.  He must have one helluva PR manager.
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: RGMike on November 17, 2010, 05:06:56 PM
Ryan Reynolds was just named Sexiest Man Alive by People magazine.  He must have one helluva PR manager.

he's one of the great Hollywood man-whores, IMHO. But he gets to be married to Scarlett Jo...
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: Tinka Cat on November 22, 2010, 02:48:13 PM
if any of you read the Chronicle or SFGate (hellooo? ....  *crickets*) rest assured that you should be spared trite holiday themed expressions.  (Messages on this board should be so lucky!  :) ) This email from the Copy Desk went out to everyone today:

Want to see a copy editor's head explode? Use a holiday cliche, especially in the lead. As tempting as that may sound, know that readers have seen all those tired expressions before, they're not original, and they will be taken out. So save yourself the hassle of having your story tossed back and skip the cliches. Also, it will also save the company the cost of cleaning up the remnants of the exploded copy editor.
Some holiday cliches to avoid:
— ’Tis the season
— bah, humbug
— it’s beginning to look a lot like Christmas
— yes, Virginia
— ho, ho, ho
— holidaze
— Christmas came early (for anyone or anything)
— Calling anyone or anything a Grinch
— deck the halls
— the white stuff (in reference to snow)

Stylebook has this to say about cliches and overused phrases:

Some words and phrases tend to be overused, in either headlines or text. Using the same words over and over makes for a dull paper. There is a consensus among observers that avoiding hackneyed words is an easy way to improve a newspaper.
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: RGMike on November 22, 2010, 03:05:01 PM
if any of you read the Chronicle or SFGate (hellooo? ....  *crickets*) rest assured that you should be spared trite holiday themed expressions.  (Messages on this board should be so lucky!  :) ) This email from the Copy Desk went out to everyone today:

Yes, Virginia, sounds like your copy editor is a Grinch!
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: RGMike on December 02, 2010, 08:55:38 AM
I made note of this on FB last nite, but Sports Illustrated debuted a new feature this week: a full-page hits-and-misses-of-the-week thing called "The Strike Zone". Which bears an eerie resemblance to EW's "The Bullseye". I realize both mags are owned by Time Inc but jeezus.
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: RGMike on December 15, 2010, 08:52:57 AM
Question for Tinka --sorry if I've asked this before but... where does sfgate get their outside bloggers? Who picks these people? Zennie 62 is such a f***ing idiot. He makes LaSalle seem like Einstein. Truly, the guy is a moron.
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: Tinka Cat on December 15, 2010, 05:51:33 PM
Question for Tinka --sorry if I've asked this before but... where does sfgate get their outside bloggers? Who picks these people? Zennie 62 is such a f***ing idiot. He makes LaSalle seem like Einstein. Truly, the guy is a moron.

some were recruited, others ask to be part of City Brights and we tell them yea or nay.

Zennie was a referral from the Chron's Op-Ed dept.
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: RGMike on December 15, 2010, 10:39:29 PM
Question for Tinka --sorry if I've asked this before but... where does sfgate get their outside bloggers? Who picks these people? Zennie 62 is such a f***ing idiot. He makes LaSalle seem like Einstein. Truly, the guy is a moron.

some were recruited, others ask to be part of City Brights and we tell them yea or nay.

Zennie was a referral from the Chron's Op-Ed dept.

well, I'm sorry to hear that. ::)
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: RGMike on January 23, 2011, 08:51:43 PM
This could've gone under Movies or Copyedit 101 too.  I dunno which is more disturbing: the fact that Channel 5 wrote an article about "the best movie theaters in the Bay Area" that includes the Century 20 in Daly City (WTF?) -OR- the fact that they misspelled "Dailey City" when they did it -OR- the fact that SFGate is linking to this article *today* even tho' it's Two. Months. Old.  Talk about a clusterfuck.

http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/top-lists/top-5-bay-area-movie-theaters/

(and don't get me started about the Sundance Kabuki)
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: sundaygal on January 24, 2011, 06:09:30 AM
This could've gone under Movies or Copyedit 101 too.  I dunno which is more disturbing: the fact that Channel 5 wrote an article about "the best movie theaters in the Bay Area" that includes the Century 20 in Daly City (WTF?) -OR- the fact that they misspelled "Dailey City" when they did it -OR- the fact that SFGate is linking to this article *today* even tho' it's Two. Months. Old.  Talk about a clusterfuck.

http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/top-lists/top-5-bay-area-movie-theaters/

(and don't get me started about the Sundance Kabuki)

The Century 20 theatre in Dailey Daly City is great if you enjoy hearing cell phones ringing and teenagers chatting during the movie.  WTF, indeed.
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: Tinka Cat on January 24, 2011, 08:34:10 AM
This could've gone under Movies or Copyedit 101 too.  I dunno which is more disturbing: the fact that Channel 5 wrote an article about "the best movie theaters in the Bay Area" that includes the Century 20 in Daly City (WTF?) -OR- the fact that they misspelled "Dailey City" when they did it -OR- the fact that SFGate is linking to this article *today* even tho' it's Two. Months. Old.  Talk about a clusterfuck.

http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/top-lists/top-5-bay-area-movie-theaters/

(and don't get me started about the Sundance Kabuki)

god, what a horrible little piece that was.  Some commenter said "Article should be re-titled “5 Bay Area Movie Theaters”". 

The SFGate home page used to have a twitter module that would flow in live tweets from various news sources, but now that real estate is being used to link to things 'Around The web'.  This one seems like a pretty poor choice. 

What do you have against the Kabuki?  The sell wine in the balcony!  which means movie and wine (no popcorn) for two could set you back $70.
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: RGMike on January 24, 2011, 08:43:25 AM

What do you have against the Kabuki?  The sell wine in the balcony!  which means movie and wine (no popcorn) for two could set you back $70.


I find the patrons at the Kabuki are just a diff kind of annoying; instead of texting-teen meatheads it's upper-class-twit douchebags. I appreciate no-commercials but the surcharges just aren't worth it to me. And the "reserved seat" option is something I find useless -- at, say, Metreon, if some loudmouthed moron sits down behind me, I can move to the other side of the theater; at Kabuki, I'm stuck with my assigned seat.

So I only go there if it's the only theater showing a film I really want to see, which happens a few times a year -- last time I was there was labor day, to see "Animal Kingdom".  I nearly saw "Howl" there last fall but I'm glad I waited; it's on Comcast On-Demand right now for $4.99 and was totally worth 5 bucks (it's, like, 80 mins long) but $13 or $14 at Kabuki woulda been silly.
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: Tinka Cat on January 24, 2011, 09:05:50 AM

What do you have against the Kabuki?  The sell wine in the balcony!  which means movie and wine (no popcorn) for two could set you back $70.


I find the patrons at the Kabuki are just a diff kind of annoying; instead of texting-teen meatheads it's upper-class-twit douchebags. I appreciate no-commercials but the surcharges just aren't worth it to me. And the "reserved saet" option is something I find useless -- at, say, Metreon, if some loudmouthed moron sits down behind me, I can move to the other side of the theater; at Kabuki, I'm stuck with my assigned seat.

heh, I completely agree with you.   The entitled-bay-area-privileged- Berkeley-liberal-artsy- Prius-formerly-Volvo occasionally sanctimonious preachy attitude thing.  ah yes, we are so fortunate to be who we are, aren't we?

I've only been to the Kabuki once to see a current release (True Grit), although I see many movies there during the SF International Film Fest.  some group behind me munched popcorn and periodically chatted (quietly) during the movie.  Someone 'shushed' them and they stopped.   That kind of selfish behavior isn't reserved for any class of people, aside from no-class.  

I'm a finicky film-goer.  If I can't have the theater to myself when I see a movie, I want others around me who:

- don't talk
- don't eat popcorn or anything noisy
- don't sit beside me, in front of me or behind me.  
- don't laugh at things just to hear themselves laugh or b/c the movie cues them that THIS IS FUNNY.  

Assigned seats can be good or bad.  "yay!  we don't have to rush!" or  "Alas! we are stuck in crap seats."
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: ggould on January 24, 2011, 09:37:42 PM
This could've gone under Movies or Copyedit 101 too.  I dunno which is more disturbing: the fact that Channel 5 wrote an article about "the best movie theaters in the Bay Area" that includes the Century 20 in Daly City (WTF?) -OR- the fact that they misspelled "Dailey City" when they did it -OR- the fact that SFGate is linking to this article *today* even tho' it's Two. Months. Old.  Talk about a clusterfuck.

http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/top-lists/top-5-bay-area-movie-theaters/

(and don't get me started about the Sundance Kabuki)

The Century 20 theatre in Dailey Daly City is great if you enjoy hearing cell phones ringing and teenagers chatting during the movie.  WTF, indeed.
Well, I have had some trouble there as you noted, but it's hard to beat the easy access, and free parking.
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: urth on January 24, 2011, 09:56:17 PM
This could've gone under Movies or Copyedit 101 too.  I dunno which is more disturbing: the fact that Channel 5 wrote an article about "the best movie theaters in the Bay Area" that includes the Century 20 in Daly City (WTF?) -OR- the fact that they misspelled "Dailey City" when they did it -OR- the fact that SFGate is linking to this article *today* even tho' it's Two. Months. Old.  Talk about a clusterfuck.

http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/top-lists/top-5-bay-area-movie-theaters/

(and don't get me started about the Sundance Kabuki)

The Century 20 theatre in Dailey Daly City is great if you enjoy hearing cell phones ringing and teenagers chatting during the movie.  WTF, indeed.
Well, I have had some trouble there as you noted, but it's hard to beat the easy access, and free parking.

The parking is free, but a couple of times it has taken me 15 minutes or more to get out of the parking lot because of the volume of people all leaving at once, with there only being a single exit.
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: RGMike on January 26, 2011, 12:43:00 PM
Elton's Too Hot for Hillbillies!

http://sfist.com/2011/01/26/arkansas_store_censor_elton_johns_u.php#
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: Tinka Cat on January 28, 2011, 11:50:21 AM
"An open letter to my wife, who hates Rush" by Peter Hartlaub

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/parenting/detail?entry_id=81886

very funny...
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: Lightnin' Rod on January 28, 2011, 12:38:47 PM
"An open letter to my wife, who hates Rush" by Peter Hartlaub

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/parenting/detail?entry_id=81886

very funny...

I just *knew* someone would have posted this.  My favorite line:

Quote
I'm ready to accept the fact that my loved ones will never enjoy listening to Rush. All I ask is that you respect the idea of Rush.

Paging RGMike... ;)
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: RGMike on January 28, 2011, 12:54:24 PM
"An open letter to my wife, who hates Rush" by Peter Hartlaub

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/parenting/detail?entry_id=81886

very funny...

I just *knew* someone would have posted this.  My favorite line:

Quote
I'm ready to accept the fact that my loved ones will never enjoy listening to Rush. All I ask is that you respect the idea of Rush.

Paging RGMike... ;)

It's a well-written piece. But Rush is still godawful. And 10 pages of comments was waaay to much for me to sift thru (I got as far as the guy who said he likes Rush In spite of Geddy's voice. LOL!)
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: Tinka Cat on January 28, 2011, 02:08:16 PM
"An open letter to my wife, who hates Rush" by Peter Hartlaub

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/parenting/detail?entry_id=81886

very funny...

I just *knew* someone would have posted this.  My favorite line:

Quote
I'm ready to accept the fact that my loved ones will never enjoy listening to Rush. All I ask is that you respect the idea of Rush.

Paging RGMike... ;)

It's a well-written piece. But Rush is still godawful. And 10 pages of comments was waaay to much for me to sift thru (I got as far as the guy who said he likes Rush In spite of Geddy's voice. LOL!)

love this clip from Freaks and Geeks where Nick finds out there are other drummer besides Neil Peart.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrMBIH2TBpU
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: SFGuy on February 06, 2011, 11:11:53 PM
This is not the print media but it is media. Huffington Post sold to AOL for $315 million. This would put co-founder Arianna Huffington in charge of all AOL content.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2011/02/06/financial/f213530S22.DTL&tsp=1

Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: RGMike on February 07, 2011, 07:45:57 AM
This is not the print media but it is media. Huffington Post sold to AOL for $315 million. This would put co-founder Arianna Huffington in charge of all AOL content.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2011/02/06/financial/f213530S22.DTL&tsp=1


some great raection tweets...

MSN's James Rocchi: Ariana is "a horrible, no-talent sharecropper who's built a shabby empire out of ego."

Roger Ebert: "AOL is buying Huffington Post for $315 million. Hopes to monetize with more slideshows and misleading headlines."

Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: mshray on February 07, 2011, 02:04:14 PM
very interesting!  I learned 19 yrs ago not to underestimate AH, not saying she can do no wrong, but I bet this is just the beginning of a major evolution in media.

one side note, this puts her in charge of both EndGadget & TechCrunch, two of the inner circle of tech maven sites.  And TechCrunch is headed by Michael Arrington...watch the name mangling begin!
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: RGMike on February 08, 2011, 09:38:43 PM
In a rather odd turn of events, former Chron TV critic Tim Goodman's Hollywood Reporter columns will be running in... the Chron. Starting Feb 18th.
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: mshray on February 09, 2011, 01:58:33 PM

In a rather odd turn of events, former Chron TV critic Tim Goodman's Hollywood Reporter columns will be running in... the Chron. Starting Feb 18th.

Now I know I've been out of it.  How long ago did Tim Goodman become a former?
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: RGMike on February 09, 2011, 02:23:47 PM

In a rather odd turn of events, former Chron TV critic Tim Goodman's Hollywood Reporter columns will be running in... the Chron. Starting Feb 18th.

Now I know I've been out of it.  How long ago did Tim Goodman become a former?

October or thereabouts. He's still on KFOG on Monday mornings, but he's writing for the HR and still gets to live in SF. There's still a link to his old blog on SFGate; I guess maybe they'll start linking to the HR version of "Bastard Machine" once the paper starts carrying his HR column. Not clear if this is just the Chron that's carrying it or if it's the beginning of a syndication thang.
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: mshray on February 10, 2011, 02:57:52 PM
Okay, 'cuz I know I've heard him on KFOG since October, guess I just never noticed that they weren't mentioning the Chron when introducing him.
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: Wayback on February 15, 2011, 07:04:29 AM
Mama mia !   S.I. cover:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2011/02/14/lifestyle/l210121S87.DTL&tsp=1
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: RGMike on February 15, 2011, 08:27:32 PM
I am officially done with getting Entertainment Weekly in the mail every week.  I have been a subscriber for nearly 19 years. The magazine stopped coming right before Xmas -- took me a while to get hold of the 800-number for customer service, but I finally called today and was told that my subscription had expired. I never got a single renewal notice. (Usually they send you multiple reminders, in envelopes that clearly say "Entertainment Weekly"). I was flabbergasted. So the guy says he's sorry and tries to sell me a new sub at the current rate. Sorry, bub -- 19 years and I don't get a break? I can read EW on-line from now on.  Thanks, Time-Warner!
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: Alicat on February 15, 2011, 08:35:27 PM
Mama mia !   S.I. cover:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2011/02/14/lifestyle/l210121S87.DTL&tsp=1
Very nice.
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: Gazoo on February 16, 2011, 10:38:11 PM
I am officially done with getting Entertainment Weekly in the mail every week.  I have been a subscriber for nearly 19 years. The magazine stopped coming right before Xmas -- took me a while to get hold of the 800-number for customer service, but I finally called today and was told that my subscription had expired. I never got a single renewal notice. (Usually they send you multiple reminders, in envelopes that clearly say "Entertainment Weekly"). I was flabbergasted. So the guy says he's sorry and tries to sell me a new sub at the current rate. Sorry, bub -- 19 years and I don't get a break? I can read EW on-line from now on.  Thanks, Time-Warner!

I should be able to get you a friends-and-family rate; I'll look into it next time I'm at work.
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: RGMike on February 17, 2011, 07:41:28 AM
I am officially done with getting Entertainment Weekly in the mail every week.  I have been a subscriber for nearly 19 years. The magazine stopped coming right before Xmas -- took me a while to get hold of the 800-number for customer service, but I finally called today and was told that my subscription had expired. I never got a single renewal notice. (Usually they send you multiple reminders, in envelopes that clearly say "Entertainment Weekly"). I was flabbergasted. So the guy says he's sorry and tries to sell me a new sub at the current rate. Sorry, bub -- 19 years and I don't get a break? I can read EW on-line from now on.  Thanks, Time-Warner!

I should be able to get you a friends-and-family rate; I'll look into it next time I'm at work.

Appreciate the thought, but seriously, they don't deserve my business.  Have they stopped sending renewal notices, or do they send them in unmarked envelopes now?  I've been feeling sorta out-of-their-demo for a while now; I can peruse recent copies at the gym and read the rest on the web.
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: Gazoo on February 17, 2011, 09:42:30 AM
I am officially done with getting Entertainment Weekly in the mail every week.  I have been a subscriber for nearly 19 years. The magazine stopped coming right before Xmas -- took me a while to get hold of the 800-number for customer service, but I finally called today and was told that my subscription had expired. I never got a single renewal notice. (Usually they send you multiple reminders, in envelopes that clearly say "Entertainment Weekly"). I was flabbergasted. So the guy says he's sorry and tries to sell me a new sub at the current rate. Sorry, bub -- 19 years and I don't get a break? I can read EW on-line from now on.  Thanks, Time-Warner!

I should be able to get you a friends-and-family rate; I'll look into it next time I'm at work.

Appreciate the thought, but seriously, they don't deserve my business.  Have they stopped sending renewal notices, or do they send them in unmarked envelopes now?  I've been feeling sorta out-of-their-demo for a while now; I can peruse recent copies at the gym and read the rest on the web.

Maybe they expect people to renew online nowadays?  I can't imagine why Time Inc. would deprive itself of a willing paying subscriber in this era of tanking numbers; it is a mystery.
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: RGMike on April 09, 2011, 11:02:34 AM
I am officially done with getting Entertainment Weekly in the mail every week.  I have been a subscriber for nearly 19 years. The magazine stopped coming right before Xmas -- took me a while to get hold of the 800-number for customer service, but I finally called today and was told that my subscription had expired. I never got a single renewal notice. (Usually they send you multiple reminders, in envelopes that clearly say "Entertainment Weekly"). I was flabbergasted. So the guy says he's sorry and tries to sell me a new sub at the current rate. Sorry, bub -- 19 years and I don't get a break? I can read EW on-line from now on.  Thanks, Time-Warner!

I should be able to get you a friends-and-family rate; I'll look into it next time I'm at work.

Appreciate the thought, but seriously, they don't deserve my business.  Have they stopped sending renewal notices, or do they send them in unmarked envelopes now?  I've been feeling sorta out-of-their-demo for a while now; I can peruse recent copies at the gym and read the rest on the web.

Maybe they expect people to renew online nowadays?  I can't imagine why Time Inc. would deprive itself of a willing paying subscriber in this era of tanking numbers; it is a mystery.

Reviving this post because the EXACT. SAME. THING. just happened with Sports Illustrated -- stopped coming, no renewal notices, called to find out why and got "oh, your subscription expired".  Asked the heavily-Indian-accented guy to transfer me to a supervisor, and she told me that I had told them I didn't want mailings or emails from them, and... (a) I didn't do that and (b) I get emails from SI every damn week. WTFF?
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: Alicat on April 09, 2011, 12:12:54 PM
I am officially done with getting Entertainment Weekly in the mail every week.  I have been a subscriber for nearly 19 years. The magazine stopped coming right before Xmas -- took me a while to get hold of the 800-number for customer service, but I finally called today and was told that my subscription had expired. I never got a single renewal notice. (Usually they send you multiple reminders, in envelopes that clearly say "Entertainment Weekly"). I was flabbergasted. So the guy says he's sorry and tries to sell me a new sub at the current rate. Sorry, bub -- 19 years and I don't get a break? I can read EW on-line from now on.  Thanks, Time-Warner!

I should be able to get you a friends-and-family rate; I'll look into it next time I'm at work.

Appreciate the thought, but seriously, they don't deserve my business.  Have they stopped sending renewal notices, or do they send them in unmarked envelopes now?  I've been feeling sorta out-of-their-demo for a while now; I can peruse recent copies at the gym and read the rest on the web.

Maybe they expect people to renew online nowadays?  I can't imagine why Time Inc. would deprive itself of a willing paying subscriber in this era of tanking numbers; it is a mystery.

Reviving this post because the EXACT. SAME. THING. just happened with Sports Illustrated -- stopped coming, no renewal notices, called to find out why and got "oh, your subscription expired".  Asked the heavily-Indian-accented guy to transfer me to a supervisor, and she told me that I had told them I didn't want mailings or emails from them, and... (a) I didn't do that and (b) I get emails from SI every damn week. WTFF?
You have now entered the twilight zone.
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: RGMike on April 16, 2011, 05:42:00 PM
Anyone know if the Guardian has changed its distribution model?  All the Guardian boxes in my neck of the woods (Mission and Noe Valley) have been empty for weeks, regardless of what day of the week it is. Meanwhile SF Weekly still loads up their boxes every Wed or Thurs.
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: RGMike on May 17, 2011, 08:44:08 AM
In case you didn't already know this: one way to get around the NY Times' 20-article limit for free on-line reading is... once you've reached your monthly limit (as I just did), Google the article in question and access it thru the Google link -- apparently articles accessed that way aren't counted. (Whether that's on purpose or if the NYT screwed up and just hasn't figured it out yet is unclear)
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: Tinka Cat on May 17, 2011, 10:23:09 AM
In case you didn't already know this: one way to get around the NY Times' 20-article limit for free on-line reading is... once you've reached your monthly limit (as I just did), Google the article in question and access it thru the Google link -- apparently articles accessed that way aren't counted. (Whether that's on purpose or if the NYT screwed up and just hasn't figured it out yet is unclear)

they say they were very aware of the workarounds, but ultimately are betting their target demo will pony up and do the right thing.  There's also a little javascript thing you can bookmark on your browser which will remove the nytimes cookie and zero out your monthly quota total.   
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: RGMike on May 20, 2011, 07:55:22 AM
In case you didn't already know this: one way to get around the NY Times' 20-article limit for free on-line reading is... once you've reached your monthly limit (as I just did), Google the article in question and access it thru the Google link -- apparently articles accessed that way aren't counted. (Whether that's on purpose or if the NYT screwed up and just hasn't figured it out yet is unclear)

they say they were very aware of the workarounds, but ultimately are betting their target demo will pony up and do the right thing.  There's also a little javascript thing you can bookmark on your browser which will remove the nytimes cookie and zero out your monthly quota total.   

another thing is that NYT articles are repurposed by CNBC, MSNBC, etc etc, so when you google the article, often a CNBC or other version will come up.
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: Wayback on May 24, 2011, 02:10:36 PM
Article: Half of Bay Area newspaper jobs gone in last decade (the times they are a changin')
http://sfpublicpress.org/news/2011-05/half-of-bay-area-newspaper-jobs-gone-in-last-decade
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: RGMike on June 18, 2011, 07:43:21 PM
Question for TC about the Chron/SFGate: whatever happened to "Betting Fool"? I read his column regularly for a while; just happened to think of him today and realized he's not on the website any more.
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: Lightnin' Rod on June 19, 2011, 06:56:17 PM
Question for TC about the Chron/SFGate: whatever happened to "Betting Fool"? I read his column regularly for a while; just happened to think of him today and realized he's not on the website any more.

I think he's been gone for a couple of years.  Probably a victim of the economy/death of print media, even though he was mostly a sfgate guy.  But that is just a guess.
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: Tinka Cat on June 20, 2011, 08:53:45 AM
Question for TC about the Chron/SFGate: whatever happened to "Betting Fool"? I read his column regularly for a while; just happened to think of him today and realized he's not on the website any more.

I think he's been gone for a couple of years.  Probably a victim of the economy/death of print media, even though he was mostly a sfgate guy.  But that is just a guess.

yes, he was the victim of staffing changes.   Not sure what he's up to now.  (He's a huge BÖC fan, btw, and I attended a couples shows at Slim's with him.)
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: Lightnin' Rod on June 20, 2011, 09:03:15 AM
Question for TC about the Chron/SFGate: whatever happened to "Betting Fool"? I read his column regularly for a while; just happened to think of him today and realized he's not on the website any more.

I think he's been gone for a couple of years.  Probably a victim of the economy/death of print media, even though he was mostly a sfgate guy.  But that is just a guess.

yes, he was the victim of staffing changes.   Not sure what he's up to now.  (He's a huge BÖC fan, btw, and I attended a couples shows at Slim's with him.)

I think he's a member of one of the golf clubs I belong to as well (Alameda Men's Club), though I have not yet met him.  In one of his columns he revealed that his golf balls are marked (preprinted) BOC.  The funny thing is that I have for 15 or 20 years marked my golf balls with the BOC hooked cross.  I think I have a small version -- I'll change my avatar.
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: Tinka Cat on June 20, 2011, 09:12:36 AM
Question for TC about the Chron/SFGate: whatever happened to "Betting Fool"? I read his column regularly for a while; just happened to think of him today and realized he's not on the website any more.

I think he's been gone for a couple of years.  Probably a victim of the economy/death of print media, even though he was mostly a sfgate guy.  But that is just a guess.

yes, he was the victim of staffing changes.   Not sure what he's up to now.  (He's a huge BÖC fan, btw, and I attended a couples shows at Slim's with him.)

I think he's a member of one of the golf clubs I belong to as well (Alameda Men's Club), though I have not yet met him.  In one of his columns he revealed that his golf balls are marked (preprinted) BOC.  The funny thing is that I have for 15 or 20 years marked my golf balls with the BOC hooked cross.  I think I have a small version -- I'll change my avatar.

yes, I remember that..!  (nice icon)   BOS plays with Foghat this weekend at the Sonoma-Marin Fair.  Maybe the fool will be there...
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: Lightnin' Rod on June 20, 2011, 09:20:58 AM
Question for TC about the Chron/SFGate: whatever happened to "Betting Fool"? I read his column regularly for a while; just happened to think of him today and realized he's not on the website any more.

I think he's been gone for a couple of years.  Probably a victim of the economy/death of print media, even though he was mostly a sfgate guy.  But that is just a guess.

yes, he was the victim of staffing changes.   Not sure what he's up to now.  (He's a huge BÖC fan, btw, and I attended a couples shows at Slim's with him.)

I think he's a member of one of the golf clubs I belong to as well (Alameda Men's Club), though I have not yet met him.  In one of his columns he revealed that his golf balls are marked (preprinted) BOC.  The funny thing is that I have for 15 or 20 years marked my golf balls with the BOC hooked cross.  I think I have a small version -- I'll change my avatar.

yes, I remember that..!  (nice icon)   BOS plays with Foghat this weekend at the Sonoma-Marin Fair.  Maybe the fool will be there...

Me and a couple of buddy's are probably going for Foghat friday.  I don't think I've ever seen them, though I've seen BOC several times.  I'm not that big a BOC fan, really, but I like the symbol.  For years I wore a pewter version on a chain that I bought at the Cow Palace at a late 70's show.  My dad hated it!   ;D
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: RGMike on September 27, 2011, 12:36:50 PM
Shi(f)t Happens. Heh.

http://blog.sfgate.com/hottopics/2011/09/27/the-detroit-free-press-will-do-anything-to-sell-papers/?tsp=1
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: RGMike on September 27, 2011, 03:17:57 PM
Jeezus H Christ -- SFGate does a feature with pics of "colorful" Giants fans and they caption this one as "a red-headed fan..."? It's ORANGE, you numbskulls. Sheesh.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/object/article?f=/g/a/2011/09/26/giants_fans_at_at_t_park.DTL&object=%2Fc%2Fpictures%2F2011%2F09%2F26%2Fba-GiantsFans27_0504240090.jpg
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: Tinka Cat on September 27, 2011, 03:52:30 PM
Jeezus H Christ -- SFGate does a feature with pics of "colorful" Giants fans and they caption this one as "a red-headed fan..."? It's ORANGE, you numbskulls. Sheesh.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/object/article?f=/g/a/2011/09/26/giants_fans_at_at_t_park.DTL&object=%2Fc%2Fpictures%2F2011%2F09%2F26%2Fba-GiantsFans27_0504240090.jpg

yikes, embarrassing. 

thanks, Mike: I changed it.
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: RGMike on September 27, 2011, 08:13:09 PM
Jeezus H Christ -- SFGate does a feature with pics of "colorful" Giants fans and they caption this one as "a red-headed fan..."? It's ORANGE, you numbskulls. Sheesh.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/object/article?f=/g/a/2011/09/26/giants_fans_at_at_t_park.DTL&object=%2Fc%2Fpictures%2F2011%2F09%2F26%2Fba-GiantsFans27_0504240090.jpg

yikes, embarrassing. 

thanks, Mike: I changed it.

Bless you, my son!
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: RGMike on September 30, 2011, 07:32:58 PM
Question for Tinka: Who the (bleep) is Leba Hertz? (Is she married to Dick Hertz?). I've never seen her by-line in the Chron before, but there she is today, reviewing Nick Broomfield's new Palin docu. (Because Mick, Amy and Hartlaub were all busy?) They call her "Chronicle Staff Writer" but she's NTM.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/09/30/DD731LAPNH.DTL
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: Tinka Cat on September 30, 2011, 08:35:22 PM
Question for Tinka: Who the (bleep) is Leba Hertz? (Is she married to Dick Hertz?). I've never seen her by-line in the Chron before, but there she is today, reviewing Nick Broomfield's new Palin docu. (Because Mick, Amy and Hartlaub were all busy?) They call her "Chronicle Staff Writer" but she's NTM.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/09/30/DD731LAPNH.DTL

She's the movie assignment editor.  The default byline for anyone on staff who doesn't have a specific title is 'Chron Staff Writer.'
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: Wayback on October 31, 2011, 07:57:05 AM
In today's Chron: Greil Marcus examines culture through the prism of pop
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/10/30/MN961KS2G3.DTL&ao=all
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: urth on November 23, 2011, 01:56:27 AM
Good news: Just discovered that three of the four surviving Faces (I'd bet you can guess who was the party pooper) have put together a book telling their version of the band's story.

Bad news: Near as I can tell, the best price on it is 345 pounds. Which means it's not bloody likely that my local library will be adding it to their collection. Guess I'm waiting for the paperback.

http://www.genesis-publications.com/faces/
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: Tinka Cat on November 23, 2011, 08:10:42 AM
Good news: Just discovered that three of the four surviving Faces (I'd bet you can guess who was the party pooper) have put together a book telling their version of the band's story.

Bad news: Near as I can tell, the best price on it is 345 pounds. Which means it's not bloody likely that my local library will be adding it to their collection. Guess I'm waiting for the paperback.

http://www.genesis-publications.com/faces/

very cool!  some cool pix on that web site, including this one where they're partying at a Holiday Inn!  woohoo!  check out the bus in the background. 
 
(http://www.genesis-publications.com/Faces/images/8.sun-holiday-inn.jpg)
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: RGMike on November 23, 2011, 08:15:13 AM
woohoo!  check out the bus in the background. 
 
(http://www.genesis-publications.com/Faces/images/8.sun-holiday-inn.jpg)

check out the bus in Rod's pants!
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: Tinka Cat on November 23, 2011, 08:20:00 AM
woohoo!  check out the bus in the background. 
 
(http://www.genesis-publications.com/Faces/images/8.sun-holiday-inn.jpg)

check out the bus in Rod's pants!

Check out Ian McLagan going down the pool slide!  Weeeeeee!

... and notice the "Ford" sign in the background. Where was this Holiday Inn anyway?  Frontage Road, New Jersey?
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: RGMike on March 20, 2012, 08:30:28 AM
The NYT deceases the number of "free" internet articles you're allowed each month from 20 to 10. 

http://www.nytimes.com/subscriptions/Multiproduct/lp6128.html?campaignId=39UWK
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: RGMike on April 30, 2012, 07:42:20 AM
So, all of a sudden the SF Examiner is no longer a right-wing rag and they're buying the Guardian? WTF??
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: RGMike on May 28, 2012, 10:54:38 AM
I guess this coulda gone in the Copyedit thread too:

http://themediablog.typepad.com/the-media-blog/2012/05/liverpool-echo-layout.html
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: RGMike on June 24, 2012, 10:19:33 AM
Can someone explain the SFGate re-design? Where's the link to the Sunday Datebook, which I'm guessing is what MOST people head for first on Sunday morning?
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: RGMike on June 24, 2012, 10:38:51 AM
Can someone explain the SFGate re-design? Where's the link to the Sunday Datebook, which I'm guessing is what MOST people head for first on Sunday morning?

OK I finally found what I wanted after looking for 15 minutes. It's tagged as "Entertainment"

http://www.sfgate.com/entertainment/

And you really have to hunt to figure it out (even their "FAQs about thye re-design" page wasn't all that helpful).   Needless to say, what I was looking for was BFT's radio column, and -- yes -- he does a KFOG follow-up today.
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: urth on June 25, 2012, 12:04:11 AM
Can someone explain the SFGate re-design? Where's the link to the Sunday Datebook, which I'm guessing is what MOST people head for first on Sunday morning?

OK I finally found what I wanted after looking for 15 minutes. It's tagged as "Entertainment"

http://www.sfgate.com/entertainment/

And you really have to hunt to figure it out (even their "FAQs about thye re-design" page wasn't all that helpful).   Needless to say, what I was looking for was BFT's radio column, and -- yes -- he does a KFOG follow-up today.

It also turns up on the TV & Radio page, which is where I've always gone to find it. The only thing is, it used to be accompanied by one avatar that made it easy to ID (the microphone with a sort of green electrical halo around it) and today it had some random picture that didn't say anything about radio to me.  Still managed to find it, but yes, a bit more of a shot in the dark.
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: RGMike on June 25, 2012, 08:00:35 AM
Can someone explain the SFGate re-design? Where's the link to the Sunday Datebook, which I'm guessing is what MOST people head for first on Sunday morning?

OK I finally found what I wanted after looking for 15 minutes. It's tagged as "Entertainment"

http://www.sfgate.com/entertainment/

And you really have to hunt to figure it out (even their "FAQs about thye re-design" page wasn't all that helpful).   Needless to say, what I was looking for was BFT's radio column, and -- yes -- he does a KFOG follow-up today.

It also turns up on the TV & Radio page, which is where I've always gone to find it. The only thing is, it used to be accompanied by one avatar that made it easy to ID (the microphone with a sort of green electrical halo around it) and today it had some random picture that didn't say anything about radio to me.  Still managed to find it, but yes, a bit more of a shot in the dark.

under the previous design, EVERY article had 2 links at the top of the page: one for the SFGate home and another for the Chronicle page with all the sections linked.... and then on Sunday there was a link to "Sunday datebook" on that page. That old-layout Chronicle page no longer exists, apparently
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: RGMike on June 26, 2012, 10:14:38 AM
And while we're harping on SFGate (sorry TC) -- that "Meebo" thing they've grafted onto the website makes my browser crash constantly whenever I try to click the "hide" button. Sheesh.
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: Tinka Cat on June 26, 2012, 11:08:57 AM
And while we're harping on SFGate (sorry TC) -- that "Meebo" thing they've grafted onto the website makes my browser crash constantly whenever I try to click the "hide" button. Sheesh.

what's your browser and OS?

yes, it blows.
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: RGMike on June 26, 2012, 11:44:01 AM
And while we're harping on SFGate (sorry TC) -- that "Meebo" thing they've grafted onto the website makes my browser crash constantly whenever I try to click the "hide" button. Sheesh.

what's your browser and OS?

yes, it blows.

I've got IE 7 at work, which is where the crashing happens. We've been begging for an upgrade forever. (at home I have IE 9 and the problem doesn't happen there)
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: Lightnin' Rod on June 26, 2012, 10:18:02 PM
And while we're harping on SFGate (sorry TC) -- that "Meebo" thing they've grafted onto the website makes my browser crash constantly whenever I try to click the "hide" button. Sheesh.

what's your browser and OS?

yes, it blows.

I've got IE 7 at work, which is where the crashing happens. We've been begging for an upgrade forever. (at home I have IE 9 and the problem doesn't happen there)

Crashes sometimes with IE8 too.  Meebo is annoying as hell, but I understand it's an income generator and there is no such thing as a free lunch.  Slate.com has Meebo too, but it doesn't seem to crash as often.  Not sure all the sfgate crashes are caused by Meebo...
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: Lightnin' Rod on June 29, 2012, 09:28:22 AM
Sfgate, especially the movie reviews, is awfully crashy today.  At least it is in IE8.

I will have to go with my gut on "Ted" -- yech.
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: RGMike on June 29, 2012, 09:53:05 AM
Sfgate, especially the movie reviews, is awfully crashy today.  At least it is in IE8.

I will have to go with my gut on "Ted" -- yech.

reviews have been mixed -- no surprise since you either love McFarlane or hate him. I hate Family Guy but love American Dad, and Ted seems closer to FG than AD.
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: Lightnin' Rod on July 09, 2012, 05:20:48 PM
http://www.theonion.com/articles/economically-healthy-daily-planet-now-most-unreali,28718/
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: RGMike on July 10, 2012, 08:37:17 AM
SFGate: seriously, Meebo has got to go. I give up. The site crashes every single time I try to read an article that's longer than 2 paragraphs. Sheesh.
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: RGMike on July 12, 2012, 09:00:46 AM
sorry to keep ragging on SFGate, but a link to this article showed up in the "we also recommend" section today. Only problem: this article is 5 YEARS OLD!

http://www.sfgate.com/49ers/article/Man-dies-in-20-foot-fall-off-wall-at-Monster-Park-3300176.php
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: Tinka Cat on July 12, 2012, 09:05:55 AM
sorry to keep ragging on SFGate, but a link to this article showed up in the "we also recommend" section today. Only problem: this article is 5 YEARS OLD!

http://www.sfgate.com/49ers/article/Man-dies-in-20-foot-fall-off-wall-at-Monster-Park-3300176.php

it's all contextual. The machine figures if you're interested in reading whatever you were reading, you also might like this horror story.  What was the orig story you were reading?

PS: Meebo!  blah!
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: RGMike on July 12, 2012, 09:18:26 AM
sorry to keep ragging on SFGate, but a link to this article showed up in the "we also recommend" section today. Only problem: this article is 5 YEARS OLD!

http://www.sfgate.com/49ers/article/Man-dies-in-20-foot-fall-off-wall-at-Monster-Park-3300176.php

it's all contextual. The machine figures if you're interested in reading whatever you were reading, you also might like this horror story.  What was the orig story you were reading?

PS: Meebo!  blah!

I was reading the AP story about actress Tammy Blanchard and her new movie.
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: Lightnin' Rod on July 12, 2012, 09:55:41 AM
sorry to keep ragging on SFGate, but a link to this article showed up in the "we also recommend" section today. Only problem: this article is 5 YEARS OLD!

http://www.sfgate.com/49ers/article/Man-dies-in-20-foot-fall-off-wall-at-Monster-Park-3300176.php

it's all contextual. The machine figures if you're interested in reading whatever you were reading, you also might like this horror story.  What was the orig story you were reading?

PS: Meebo!  blah!

It appears that Meebo has been removed from Slate.com. 
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: Tinka Cat on July 12, 2012, 11:39:20 AM
sorry to keep ragging on SFGate, but a link to this article showed up in the "we also recommend" section today. Only problem: this article is 5 YEARS OLD!

http://www.sfgate.com/49ers/article/Man-dies-in-20-foot-fall-off-wall-at-Monster-Park-3300176.php

it's all contextual. The machine figures if you're interested in reading whatever you were reading, you also might like this horror story.  What was the orig story you were reading?

PS: Meebo!  blah!

It appears that Meebo has been removed from Slate.com.

so if Slate.com jumped off a bridge, we should, too?  ;) 
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: Tinka Cat on July 12, 2012, 11:44:34 AM
sorry to keep ragging on SFGate, but a link to this article showed up in the "we also recommend" section today. Only problem: this article is 5 YEARS OLD!

http://www.sfgate.com/49ers/article/Man-dies-in-20-foot-fall-off-wall-at-Monster-Park-3300176.php

it's all contextual. The machine figures if you're interested in reading whatever you were reading, you also might like this horror story.  What was the orig story you were reading?

PS: Meebo!  blah!

I was reading the AP story about actress Tammy Blanchard and her new movie.

funny, I just looked at that same article and this was one of the suggested pieces, also from 1987!

S.F. man arrested for contact with Chronicle employees
Wednesday, December 5, 2007
http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/S-F-man-arrested-for-contact-with-Chronicle-3233227.php

It's ponderous, man, ponderous.
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: RGMike on July 16, 2012, 11:11:07 AM
Rich Lieberman just dropped a notch or 2 in my esteem: today's blog post is about how much he loves reading Mick LaSalle.
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: RGMike on January 09, 2013, 11:08:48 AM
And you thought Al-Jazeera buying Current was weird:  The company that owns the Examiner and the SF Bay Guardian just bought SF Weekly.

http://blog.sfgate.com/bottomline/2013/01/09/sf-weekly-acquired-by-sf-examiner-which-owns-the-bay-guardian/
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: RGMike on March 14, 2013, 06:58:03 PM
RIP the Boston Phoenix, one of the legendary alt-weeklies

http://www.boston.com/culturedesk/2013/03/14/phoenix/QqQzavbEwKfG70lq9GCWVO/story.html
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: RGMike on March 26, 2013, 07:24:01 PM
OK, it's a Rich Lieberman "scoop" so... grain of salt alert, but he sez things are not good at the Chronicle, folks are being asked to pay more for a crappy healthcare plan, just as the paper puts up a paywall on SFGate.com. Morale apparently is in the toilet. Oy.
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: Lightnin' Rod on March 27, 2013, 09:29:22 AM
OK, it's a Rich Lieberman "scoop" so... grain of salt alert, but he sez things are not good at the Chronicle, folks are being asked to pay more for a crappy healthcare plan, just as the paper puts up a paywall on SFGate.com. Morale apparently is in the toilet. Oy.

I was just checking out the subscription offers (my daily Jon Carroll is a habit I don't want to break), and they don't make a lot of sense.  Still thinking about it.
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: RGMike on March 27, 2013, 09:40:57 AM
OK, it's a Rich Lieberman "scoop" so... grain of salt alert, but he sez things are not good at the Chronicle, folks are being asked to pay more for a crappy healthcare plan, just as the paper puts up a paywall on SFGate.com. Morale apparently is in the toilet. Oy.

I was just checking out the subscription offers (my daily Jon Carroll is a habit I don't want to break), and they don't make a lot of sense.  Still thinking about it.

yeah, I assume Mark Morford is another that they want folks to pay for. Mick LaSalle... notsomuch.  ;)
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: urth on March 27, 2013, 10:01:38 AM
OK, it's a Rich Lieberman "scoop" so... grain of salt alert, but he sez things are not good at the Chronicle, folks are being asked to pay more for a crappy healthcare plan, just as the paper puts up a paywall on SFGate.com. Morale apparently is in the toilet. Oy.

I was just checking out the subscription offers (my daily Jon Carroll is a habit I don't want to break), and they don't make a lot of sense.  Still thinking about it.

The "paywall" thing seems to be a trend among newspapers. Both of our local twice-weeklies went that route since the first of the year, and I am expecting the Oregonian will do so soon, too.

Frankly, if the Chron would promise to not have video ads set to auto-play (and maybe get the pages to load quicker without dependence on third-party ad servers) it would be worth it.
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: Lightnin' Rod on March 28, 2013, 09:27:47 AM
OK, it's a Rich Lieberman "scoop" so... grain of salt alert, but he sez things are not good at the Chronicle, folks are being asked to pay more for a crappy healthcare plan, just as the paper puts up a paywall on SFGate.com. Morale apparently is in the toilet. Oy.

I was just checking out the subscription offers (my daily Jon Carroll is a habit I don't want to break), and they don't make a lot of sense.  Still thinking about it.

The "paywall" thing seems to be a trend among newspapers. Both of our local twice-weeklies went that route since the first of the year, and I am expecting the Oregonian will do so soon, too.

Frankly, if the Chron would promise to not have video ads set to auto-play (and maybe get the pages to load quicker without dependence on third-party ad servers) it would be worth it.

I don't mind that they're trying to get people to pay for the "paper".  Writers, editors and such cost money.  The layout of the Chronicle "premium" seems pretty clean.  I will probably subscribe next week.


Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: Tinka Cat on March 28, 2013, 01:29:22 PM
OK, it's a Rich Lieberman "scoop" so... grain of salt alert, but he sez things are not good at the Chronicle, folks are being asked to pay more for a crappy healthcare plan, just as the paper puts up a paywall on SFGate.com. Morale apparently is in the toilet. Oy.

I was just checking out the subscription offers (my daily Jon Carroll is a habit I don't want to break), and they don't make a lot of sense.  Still thinking about it.

yeah, I assume Mark Morford is another that they want folks to pay for. Mick LaSalle... notsomuch.  ;)

Morford isn't on the premium site: He's been sfgate-only for years.  (He used to be in print, but that was only for about a year a long time ago.)

Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: RGMike on April 07, 2013, 10:33:24 AM
No more Ben Fong-Torres column in the Sunday Chron?  Shoulda been one last week, but no. His archives are still there.
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: urth on April 07, 2013, 11:43:06 PM
No more Ben Fong-Torres column in the Sunday Chron?  Shoulda been one last week, but no. His archives are still there.

Were you looking in the print edition or online? If it's the latter his new material may be behind the paywall, like a lot of the other Chron columnists.
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: RGMike on April 08, 2013, 07:46:00 AM
No more Ben Fong-Torres column in the Sunday Chron?  Shoulda been one last week, but no. His archives are still there.

Were you looking in the print edition or online? If it's the latter his new material may be behind the paywall, like a lot of the other Chron columnists.

I thought that might be it, but it seems odd that a twice-a-month column written by a freelancer would be considered pay-worthy.
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: RGMike on April 17, 2013, 12:45:21 PM
No more Ben Fong-Torres column in the Sunday Chron?  Shoulda been one last week, but no. His archives are still there.

Were you looking in the print edition or online? If it's the latter his new material may be behind the paywall, like a lot of the other Chron columnists.

I thought that might be it, but it seems odd that a twice-a-month column written by a freelancer would be considered pay-worthy.

More on the paywall: I'm loving the nasty comments by readers about the suddenly ubiquitous practice on SFGate of writers using their (free) blogs to promote paid articles -- "Read my take on [fill-in-the-blank] here" -- even tho' the link on the main page implies that you're clicking over to a complete article/review/whatever.  Movie and theater reviews, for example, are behind the paywall; Mick LaSalle will do a blog post related to a new movie but it will have a link to take you to the you-gotta-pay-for-it review of said film.
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: urth on April 17, 2013, 02:30:11 PM
No more Ben Fong-Torres column in the Sunday Chron?  Shoulda been one last week, but no. His archives are still there.

Were you looking in the print edition or online? If it's the latter his new material may be behind the paywall, like a lot of the other Chron columnists.

I thought that might be it, but it seems odd that a twice-a-month column written by a freelancer would be considered pay-worthy.

More on the paywall: I'm loving the nasty comments by readers about the suddenly ubiquitous practice on SFGate of writers using their (free) blogs to promote paid articles -- "Read my take on [fill-in-the-blank] here" -- even tho' the link on the main page implies that you're clicking over to a complete article/review/whatever.  Movie and theater reviews, for example, are behind the paywall; Mick LaSalle will do a blog post related to a new movie but it will have a link to take you to the you-gotta-pay-for-it review of said film.

Funny how they think that by intentionally creating a bad user experience, that will inspire readers to instead give them money.  I understand that they need to generate revenue, but pissing people off is not the way to accomplish it.
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: RGMike on August 14, 2013, 02:21:17 PM
and -- BOOM! -- just like that, the Chron gets rid of the paywall after just 4 months:

http://blogs.sfweekly.com/thesnitch/2013/08/chronicle_kills_its_paywall_--.php
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: Big Fingers McGee on August 14, 2013, 02:46:23 PM
and -- BOOM! -- just like that, the Chron gets rid of the paywall after just 4 months:

http://blogs.sfweekly.com/thesnitch/2013/08/chronicle_kills_its_paywall_--.php

I like how they refer to sfgate content as 'dreck'.... the quality on that site has certainly declined in the interim.
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: Tinka Cat on August 14, 2013, 03:17:40 PM
and -- BOOM! -- just like that, the Chron gets rid of the paywall after just 4 months:

http://blogs.sfweekly.com/thesnitch/2013/08/chronicle_kills_its_paywall_--.php

I like how they refer to sfgate content as 'dreck'.... the quality on that site has certainly declined in the interim.

eh, you get what you pay for.
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: Lightnin' Rod on August 15, 2013, 10:05:51 AM
and -- BOOM! -- just like that, the Chron gets rid of the paywall after just 4 months:

http://blogs.sfweekly.com/thesnitch/2013/08/chronicle_kills_its_paywall_--.php

I like how they refer to sfgate content as 'dreck'.... the quality on that site has certainly declined in the interim.

eh, you get what you pay for.

Agreed. 

I don't blame the Chron for trying the paywall.  It's unfortunate that nobody has figured out a viable model for funding quality content for true journalism.  You know, with editors and experienced, talented writers and stuff.
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: Big Fingers McGee on August 15, 2013, 10:34:52 AM
and -- BOOM! -- just like that, the Chron gets rid of the paywall after just 4 months:

http://blogs.sfweekly.com/thesnitch/2013/08/chronicle_kills_its_paywall_--.php

I like how they refer to sfgate content as 'dreck'.... the quality on that site has certainly declined in the interim.

eh, you get what you pay for.

Agreed. 

I don't blame the Chron for trying the paywall.  It's unfortunate that nobody has figured out a viable model for funding quality content for true journalism.  You know, with editors and experienced, talented writers and stuff.

One might argue that WSJ has a good system - general articles available for free, with the "good stuff" available for a price - of course, that was kind of the intent of SfGate's firewall.

Free to Pay-for Content for newspapers is like network to cable television. You have to pay for quality. Generally speaking, anyway. SfGate's free content in recent weeks has consisted of items like "Top 50 Places to get a suntan".
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: dischead on August 15, 2013, 10:21:25 PM
and -- BOOM! -- just like that, the Chron gets rid of the paywall after just 4 months:

http://blogs.sfweekly.com/thesnitch/2013/08/chronicle_kills_its_paywall_--.php
I like how they refer to sfgate content as 'dreck'.... the quality on that site has certainly declined in the interim.
eh, you get what you pay for.
Agreed. 

I don't blame the Chron for trying the paywall.  It's unfortunate that nobody has figured out a viable model for funding quality content for true journalism.  You know, with editors and experienced, talented writers and stuff.


Back in the early to mid-90s, I read many breathless articles in newspapers
about how this Internet thing was going to "change everything."  I guess the
people running the papers don't pay much attention to their own work.  Most if
not all of those articles' authors aren't working there anymore.

The strongly-held conceit of the newspaper folks is that they are in the
journalism business, and their job is to provide reporting, commentary, and
analysis to the public.  Then Mr. Newmark came along, and with a simple,
text-only web site poked a hole in their business model and let literally
hundreds of millions of dollars of classified ad revenue leak away into the
ether.  In the process he demonstrated that conceit to be false, and that the
newspaper people didn't seem to realize what their business really was.

Google, in contrast, hasn't made that mistake.  Google knows it isn't in the
business of providing search results, free e-mail, maps, satellite photos, or
any of the dozens of other services they offer.  Google is in the business of
selling advertising; it is their main source of revenue.  And whether they
realize it or not, newspapers, magazines, radio, and television are all in the
same business -- selling advertising.  The articles and programming offered by
these media is simply the bait to assemble an audience, which can then be sold
to advertisers.

It is a little sad that the newspapers forgot what their business really was,
and that mistake may ultimately lead to their demise.  Nothing can replace a
lazy Sunday brunch with one's sweetie, reading the paper, trading sections back
and forth, and pointing out items of mutual interest.

Not quite as romantic with two laptops, e-mailing links to each other.
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: dischead on October 28, 2013, 11:09:09 PM
I only read the Sunday SF Comical, not so much for news but for many of the features.  Tom
Stienstra's column in the sports section hasn't appeared for a month.  Anybody know why,
or is it just one of those things?
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: dischead on October 29, 2013, 10:14:17 PM
I only read the Sunday SF Comical, not so much for news but for many of the features.  Tom
Stienstra's column in the sports section hasn't appeared for a month.  Anybody know why,
or is it just one of those things?

I've discovered that he's been away on assignment or some such; so the Sunday columns
should resume soon.
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: CapnJack on February 03, 2014, 04:58:44 PM
In my mailbox today: Joel Whitburn's Cash Box Pop Hits 1952-1996.

(https://www.recordresearch.com/books/Cash_Box.jpg)

Should be fun thumbing through these pages.  :)
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: Big Fingers McGee on February 03, 2014, 08:09:50 PM
In my mailbox today: Joel Whitburn's Cash Box Pop Hits 1952-1996.

(https://www.recordresearch.com/books/Cash_Box.jpg)

Should be fun thumbing through these pages.  :)

Awesome! I've spent the last 18 months compiling the Top 10-100, from 1940 through where I'm currently at, April 1967.
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: RGMike on June 12, 2014, 01:37:41 PM
You only die twice:  For some reason, the obituary fro actress Deborah Raffin -- she died in Nov 2012 -- is being linked to in multiple places on SFGate today. WTF?
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: Tinka Cat on June 12, 2014, 03:18:44 PM
You only die twice:  For some reason, the obituary fro actress Deborah Raffin -- she died in Nov 2012 -- is being linked to in multiple places on SFGate today. WTF?

just curious where you see/saw it... is it in the Most Popular thingy?  users basically control that by reading the story, and those readers might come from some outside place, like some BB.  Once it shows up in that list, other readers are like "Oh, I want to read what everyone else is reading" and it steamrolls.
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: RGMike on June 12, 2014, 03:36:21 PM
You only die twice:  For some reason, the obituary fro actress Deborah Raffin -- she died in Nov 2012 -- is being linked to in multiple places on SFGate today. WTF?

just curious where you see/saw it... is it in the Most Popular thingy?  users basically control that by reading the story, and those readers might come from some outside place, like some BB.  Once it shows up in that list, other readers are like "Oh, I want to read what everyone else is reading" and it steamrolls.

earlier it was actually on the front page under "More News" It disappeared from there and was underneath a current story as a "From Around The web" link.. FWIW, it was not a old SFGate story; it was from DeadlineHollywood.
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: urth on June 12, 2014, 05:24:27 PM
You only die twice:  For some reason, the obituary fro actress Deborah Raffin -- she died in Nov 2012 -- is being linked to in multiple places on SFGate today. WTF?

just curious where you see/saw it... is it in the Most Popular thingy?  users basically control that by reading the story, and those readers might come from some outside place, like some BB.  Once it shows up in that list, other readers are like "Oh, I want to read what everyone else is reading" and it steamrolls.

People are such sheep. :)
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: Tinka Cat on June 12, 2014, 09:50:24 PM
You only die twice:  For some reason, the obituary fro actress Deborah Raffin -- she died in Nov 2012 -- is being linked to in multiple places on SFGate today. WTF?

just curious where you see/saw it... is it in the Most Popular thingy?  users basically control that by reading the story, and those readers might come from some outside place, like some BB.  Once it shows up in that list, other readers are like "Oh, I want to read what everyone else is reading" and it steamrolls.

earlier it was actually on the front page under "More News" It disappeared from there and was underneath a current story as a "From Around The web" link.. FWIW, it was not a old SFGate story; it was from DeadlineHollywood.

Under "more news" on home page?  really?  That's not right.  That stuff is curated, new.  I can see it popping up for some users as a "From Around The web" link. Those links pop up based on your viewing habits, the story you're reading, etc.  Some weird stuff pops in there, too, though. 

It's ponderous, man, ponderous.
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: RGMike on June 17, 2014, 09:40:57 AM
It seems that SFGate is disabling the comments section on a LOT of posts these days, where comments used to always be an option -- Politics Blog, etc. Or is it just my old browser?
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: Big Fingers McGee on June 17, 2014, 09:52:06 AM
It seems that SFGate is disabling the comments section on a LOT of posts these days, where comments used to always be an option -- Politics Blog, etc. Or is it just my old browser?

I've noticed the same thing, and it's true both at home and at work. Maybe TinkaCat knows why? Maybe it was too much of an investment to monitor them?
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: Tinka Cat on June 17, 2014, 10:16:14 AM
It seems that SFGate is disabling the comments section on a LOT of posts these days, where comments used to always be an option -- Politics Blog, etc. Or is it just my old browser?

I've noticed the same thing, and it's true both at home and at work. Maybe TinkaCat knows why? Maybe it was too much of an investment to monitor them?

my guess: comment platform weirdness. In other words: it's them, not you. 

Got any examples of places where comments are not visible?  and what browser/OS are you on?
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: Big Fingers McGee on June 17, 2014, 10:23:54 AM
It seems that SFGate is disabling the comments section on a LOT of posts these days, where comments used to always be an option -- Politics Blog, etc. Or is it just my old browser?

I've noticed the same thing, and it's true both at home and at work. Maybe TinkaCat knows why? Maybe it was too much of an investment to monitor them?

my guess: comment platform weirdness. In other words: it's them, not you. 

Got any examples of places where comments are not visible?  and what browser/OS are you on?

Here's one I was hoping to see comments on:

http://www.sfgate.com/default/article/Casey-Kasem-He-kept-reaching-for-the-stars-5553898.php

I believe we have IE9 at work.
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: RGMike on June 17, 2014, 10:30:54 AM
It seems that SFGate is disabling the comments section on a LOT of posts these days, where comments used to always be an option -- Politics Blog, etc. Or is it just my old browser?

I've noticed the same thing, and it's true both at home and at work. Maybe TinkaCat knows why? Maybe it was too much of an investment to monitor them?

my guess: comment platform weirdness. In other words: it's them, not you. 

Got any examples of places where comments are not visible?  and what browser/OS are you on?

today's Politics Blog post about Rick Perry being criticised by some conservative re: homosex. And at work I'm on WE8.
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: Tinka Cat on June 17, 2014, 11:08:26 AM
It seems that SFGate is disabling the comments section on a LOT of posts these days, where comments used to always be an option -- Politics Blog, etc. Or is it just my old browser?

I've noticed the same thing, and it's true both at home and at work. Maybe TinkaCat knows why? Maybe it was too much of an investment to monitor them?

my guess: comment platform weirdness. In other words: it's them, not you. 

Got any examples of places where comments are not visible?  and what browser/OS are you on?

today's Politics Blog post about Rick Perry being criticised by some conservative re: homosex. And at work I'm on WE8.

hmm.. I see comments there (84 as I type).  I'm using Chrome on a mac. 

Can you try a diff browser maybe?   

What about this blog post?
http://blog.sfgate.com/bicycle/2014/03/31/devils-slide-a-new-trail-on-a-well-worn-path/
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: RGMike on June 17, 2014, 11:11:10 AM
Can you try a diff browser maybe?   

What about this blog post?
http://blog.sfgate.com/bicycle/2014/03/31/devils-slide-a-new-trail-on-a-well-worn-path/

no comments there either. Can't use a diff browser until I get home tonite.
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: Big Fingers McGee on June 17, 2014, 11:19:30 AM
It seems that SFGate is disabling the comments section on a LOT of posts these days, where comments used to always be an option -- Politics Blog, etc. Or is it just my old browser?

I've noticed the same thing, and it's true both at home and at work. Maybe TinkaCat knows why? Maybe it was too much of an investment to monitor them?

my guess: comment platform weirdness. In other words: it's them, not you. 

Got any examples of places where comments are not visible?  and what browser/OS are you on?

today's Politics Blog post about Rick Perry being criticised by some conservative re: homosex. And at work I'm on WE8.

hmm.. I see comments there (84 as I type).  I'm using Chrome on a mac. 

Can you try a diff browser maybe?   

What about this blog post?
http://blog.sfgate.com/bicycle/2014/03/31/devils-slide-a-new-trail-on-a-well-worn-path/

I do see 26 comments for the bike blog post.
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: Tinka Cat on June 17, 2014, 02:04:26 PM
I do see 26 comments for the bike blog post.

BFM and RGM, I'm sending you a private message
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: RGMike on June 18, 2014, 11:44:45 AM
I do see 26 comments for the bike blog post.

BFM and RGM, I'm sending you a private message

BTW, I just noticed (for the first time today) that at the end of stories, in the little row of icons that include FB, Twitter, Pinterest etc, there's an  icon for "click to comment" -- but when i click it, nothing happens.
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: Lightnin' Rod on January 30, 2015, 04:12:59 PM
It looks like the Chronicle is trying to get people to pay again.  Jon Carrol columns at least now require a subscription to the service. Ironically (or maybe it was foreshadowing), a couple of recent columns mentioned media and the web and trying to find the profit model.

Best of luck to them. 
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: dischead on November 01, 2015, 08:00:09 PM

Is Stienstra on vacation or something?  I haven't seen his column in the Sunday Chron
the past two or three weeks.  Also MIA:  reader letters in the pink section.
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: RGMike on November 12, 2015, 08:01:32 AM

Is Stienstra on vacation or something?  I haven't seen his column in the Sunday Chron
the past two or three weeks.  Also MIA:  reader letters in the pink section.

From today's (11/12) SFGate:

http://www.sfgate.com/outdoors/article/Many-California-lakes-are-shockingly-low-6625792.php?cmpid=brknow
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: Lightnin' Rod on March 28, 2016, 03:06:23 PM
I haven't read Jon Carroll since he went behind the pay wall at the beginning of 2015, except for occasionally when I picked up the print version.  Since he wasn't in the last print version I saw, I googled him - he retired in November.
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: RGMike on March 28, 2016, 03:08:20 PM
I haven't read Jon Carroll since he went behind the pay wall at the beginning of 2015, except for occasionally when I picked up the print version.  Since he wasn't in the last print version I saw, I googled him - he retired in November.

Wow -- shows how often I read a print Chron.  Good luck and happy retirement to him!
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: Lightnin' Rod on March 31, 2016, 04:30:26 PM
Here's a slightly off topic thing.  I've recently noticed a rise in the use of "schadenfreude" in articles I've been reading on the net (mostly on Slate.com).  For instance, "liberal shadenfreude" at the demise of the Rebuplican party at the hands of Donald Trump.

Now here's the thing:  I just can't seem to add the word to my vocabulary!  It just won't stick.  I've looked it up in the distant past, the very recent past, and again today. 

It's driving me crazy.  Why can't I remember the meaning of this one freakin' word?

Maybe this should have gone in the "I'm trying to tell you something about my life" thread.
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: darryl on March 31, 2016, 04:42:03 PM
This should help you remember:

Avenue Q - Schadenfreude
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XmZIcmRKkc
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: darryl on March 31, 2016, 04:44:33 PM
Oof, audio in that is pretty bad.

Soundtrack version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCQGQ5qBQTA
Lyrics: http://genius.com/Avenue-q-schadenfreude-lyrics
Quote
Nicky:
Oh. Schadenfreude, huh? What's that? Some kind of Nazi word?

Gary:
Yup. It's German for 'happiness at the misfortune of others'

Nicky:
'Happiness at the misfortune of others'
That is German!
Watching a vegetarian
Being told she just ate chicken
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: dischead on July 05, 2016, 07:56:49 PM

Out here in the hinterlands, a housemate has decided not to renew their subscription to
the Sunday Chronicle, as the price as risen to $5.75 a paper ($75 for 13 weeks), delivered.
They can still tootle out to the local convenience store and pick one up for $3.30, tax included.

What are people in, and closer to, the big city paying for Sunday Chronicle delivery?

I agreed that rate was pretty steep, given the same delivery person also handles the BANG
papers (Murky News, etc.), the NYT, and (I think) the WSJ -- so the presumably lower subscription
density shouldn't be a big factor.
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: ggould on July 26, 2016, 10:53:32 AM

Out here in the hinterlands, a housemate has decided not to renew their subscription to
the Sunday Chronicle, as the price as risen to $5.75 a paper ($75 for 13 weeks), delivered.
They can still tootle out to the local convenience store and pick one up for $3.30, tax included.

What are people in, and closer to, the big city paying for Sunday Chronicle delivery?

I agreed that rate was pretty steep, given the same delivery person also handles the BANG
papers (Murky News, etc.), the NYT, and (I think) the WSJ -- so the presumably lower subscription
density shouldn't be a big factor.
We are old-timers who still get daily delivery.  I'm embarrassed to report the monthly fee is 102.80.  Way too much.
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: dischead on December 10, 2018, 10:20:57 PM

I haven't seen Tom Stienstra's outdoors column in the Sunday Chronicle for several weeks.  Anybody
know why it's been missing?
Title: Re: The Print Media Thread (Books, Magazines, Newspapers, etc.)
Post by: dischead on March 03, 2019, 01:41:08 PM
I haven't seen Tom Stienstra's outdoors column in the Sunday Chronicle for several weeks.  Anybody
know why it's been missing?

I'm guessing that Stienstra's Sunday column, along with the "Sunday Drive" feature, was simply
eliminated.  And now the Insight section has been axed as well, reduced from a dozen pages to
three and placed at the end of section A.  The sad downward spiral of newspapers continues.

Yes, a lot of the material is available online.  But then, why go to the Chronicle's web site?  I can
get that commentary anywhere.  And I don't want to sit at my computer on Sunday mornings.

One used to go to the cafe with one's sweetie on Sundays for a fashionably late brunch, trading
sections of the Sunday paper back and forth, and pointing out items of interest.  What do kids do
now, each just staring at their own phones?  Where's the romance in that?