10at10 Club
Main Discussion Area => KFOG's 10@10 => Topic started by: RGMike on September 06, 2013, 09:15:41 AM
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it ought to be a '70s day, but I've been wrong before...
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So far we've had:
Labor Day
1981
1969
1987
My two guesses would be 1978 and 1998.
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So far we've had:
Labor Day
1981
1969
1987
My two guesses would be 1978 and 1998.
I'll say '76 since we haven't been there since July.
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OMFG: Mystery year! "Positively 4th St" means it's 1965!
ETA: once again we get 2 '60s sets in one week. Making for a very happy Friday.
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Mystery year? TOTHK - Bob Dylan "Positively 4th Street" 1965
TANC: I was originally going to do a '65 set today (actually started compiling it right up until Renee's mystery set started). I'll still do it, but I'll wait to see what she actually plays. 8)
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Mystery year? TOTHK - Bob Dylan "Positively 4th Street" 1965
TANC: I was originally going to do a '65 set today (actually started compiling it right up until Renee's mystery set started). I'll still do it, but I'll wait to see what she actually plays. 8)
Idea for a future CapnJack set: Mystery year, featuring music nobody's heard of. I have confidence you could kick ass on this!
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Four Tops "I Can't Help Myself"
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Mystery year? TOTHK - Bob Dylan "Positively 4th Street" 1965
TANC: I was originally going to do a '65 set today (actually started compiling it right up until Renee's mystery set started). I'll still do it, but I'll wait to see what she actually plays. 8)
Idea for a future CapnJack set: Mystery year, featuring music nobody's heard of. I have confidence you could kick ass on this!
Now that I have the sounders (from today's set), it's possible! :D
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BOS1 Dylan. VHM 4 Tops "Can't help Myself", which I love but is a bit of a warhorse, Oldies-radio-wise.
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The Rolling Stones "The Last Time"
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BOS2 Stones "The Last Time"
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OMFG: Mystery year! "Positively 4th St" means it's 1965!
ETA: once again we get 2 '60s sets in one week. Making for a very happy Friday.
Speaking of Friday, does this mean a possible return of "Hits From Hell" next Friday?
If not, I'll post a Morey classic that day. 8)
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The Yardbirds "Heart Full Of Soul"
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OMFG: Mystery year! "Positively 4th St" means it's 1965!
ETA: once again we get 2 '60s sets in one week. Making for a very happy Friday.
Speaking of Friday, does this mean a possible return of "Hits From Hell" next Friday?
If not, I'll post a Morey classic that day. 8)
I was wondering that too -- AL and DC were both kind of anti- HFH sets, preferring to sprinkle hellish songs sparingly thru regular 10@10s. Maybe Mr Pugh feels differently.
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Yardbirds: kinda LN-ish, methinks. VHM anyway.
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The Yardbirds "Heart Full Of Soul"
These all have been great songs so far, but nothing I haven't heard many times before. Sometimes pre-DOB years (I was born in '68) can be fertile ground for new discoveries.
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OK, I know we heard "Hang on Sloopy" quite recently. Unnecessary, Renee.
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Yardbirds: kinda LN-ish, methinks. VHM anyway.
Nah. BOS.
Now, Sloopy, this is LN for me.
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The McCoys "Hang On Sloopy"
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Yardbirds: kinda LN-ish, methinks. VHM anyway.
Nah. BOS.
Now, Sloopy, this is LN for me.
Yup, I was thinking Sloopy was one step too far onto familiar oldies turf.
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Yardbirds: kinda LN-ish, methinks. VHM anyway.
Nah. BOS.
Now, Sloopy, this is LN for me.
Yup, I was thinking Sloopy was one step too far onto familiar oldies turf.
She played it in March, FWIW.
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The Kinks "Till The End Of The Day"
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Yardbirds: kinda LN-ish, methinks. VHM anyway.
Nah. BOS.
Now, Sloopy, this is LN for me.
Yup, I was thinking Sloopy was one step too far onto familiar oldies turf.
I wonder if there's a story behind the name "Sloopy". It's pretty odd. I wonder what a girl named Sloopy would look like. Droopy? Like a sailboat?
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BOS3 Kinks "Til' the End of the Day"
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The Kinks "Till The End Of The Day"
This is a tired subject, but I'll go there anyway: 10:18 and we're on song 6.
THOSE MID-60'S AND THEIR DARN SHORT SONGS!
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I wonder if there's a story behind the name "Sloopy". It's pretty odd. I wonder what a girl named Sloopy would look like. Droopy? Like a sailboat?
the sloopy John B. No wonder I always associated this song with "Come On Down To My Boat" when I was 12.
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Sam the Sham and the Pharaohs "Wooly Bully"
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OMFG: Mystery year! "Positively 4th St" means it's 1965!
ETA: once again we get 2 '60s sets in one week. Making for a very happy Friday.
Speaking of Friday, does this mean a possible return of "Hits From Hell" next Friday?
If not, I'll post a Morey classic that day. 8)
I was wondering that too -- AL and DC were both kind of anti- HFH sets, preferring to sprinkle hellish songs sparingly thru regular 10@10s. Maybe Mr Pugh feels differently.
While Mr. Pugh doesn't sound as if he's The Most Interesting Man In The World, I have to say that the quality of KFOG's music has generally improved (Cumulus' cancellation of "Lost And Found" notwithstanding).
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Sam the Sham and the Pharoahs "Wooly Bully"
This is an oldies standard, as well, but I'll welcome garage anytime. Staleness is in the ear of the beholder.
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The Kinks "Till The End Of The Day"
This is a tired subject, but I'll go there anyway: 10:18 and we're on song 6.
THOSE MID-60'S AND THEIR DARN SHORT SONGS!
I've suggested a 35 minute minimum to the sets. Not holding my breath.
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OMFG: Mystery year! "Positively 4th St" means it's 1965!
ETA: once again we get 2 '60s sets in one week. Making for a very happy Friday.
Speaking of Friday, does this mean a possible return of "Hits From Hell" next Friday?
If not, I'll post a Morey classic that day. 8)
I was wondering that too -- AL and DC were both kind of anti- HFH sets, preferring to sprinkle hellish songs sparingly thru regular 10@10s. Maybe Mr Pugh feels differently.
While Mr. Pugh doesn't sound as if he's The Most Interesting Man In The World, I have to say that the quality of KFOG's music has generally improved (Cumulus' cancellation of "Lost And Found" notwithstanding).
He seems to have a flexibility about the peculiarity of this local market that DC lacked.
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OMFG: Mystery year! "Positively 4th St" means it's 1965!
ETA: once again we get 2 '60s sets in one week. Making for a very happy Friday.
Speaking of Friday, does this mean a possible return of "Hits From Hell" next Friday?
If not, I'll post a Morey classic that day. 8)
I was wondering that too -- AL and DC were both kind of anti- HFH sets, preferring to sprinkle hellish songs sparingly thru regular 10@10s. Maybe Mr Pugh feels differently.
While Mr. Pugh doesn't sound as if he's The Most Interesting Man In The World, I have to say that the quality of KFOG's music has generally improved (Cumulus' cancellation of "Lost And Found" notwithstanding).
Hahaha! i heard that exchange this morning too.
"Wooly Bully" is also prime Oldies-radio fodder. watch it now, watch it!
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The Beatles (yay!) "Wait"
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uber-BOS4 "Wait", a Beatles rarity!
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Sam the Sham and the Pharoahs "Wooly Bully"
This is an oldies standard, as well, but I'll welcome garage anytime. Staleness is in the ear of the beholder.
So is Sam the Sham a pharaoh too, or is he something else?
BOS for "Wait"
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The Beatles (yay!) "Wait"
The really huge acts always seem to get a song on in the '64-'66 sets. We've had Stones, Beatles, Dylan, Kinks, now we just need the Who.
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James Brown "I Got You (I Feel Good)"
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OMFG: Mystery year! "Positively 4th St" means it's 1965!
ETA: once again we get 2 '60s sets in one week. Making for a very happy Friday.
Speaking of Friday, does this mean a possible return of "Hits From Hell" next Friday?
If not, I'll post a Morey classic that day. 8)
I was wondering that too -- AL and DC were both kind of anti- HFH sets, preferring to sprinkle hellish songs sparingly thru regular 10@10s. Maybe Mr Pugh feels differently.
While Mr. Pugh doesn't sound as if he's The Most Interesting Man In The World, I have to say that the quality of KFOG's music has generally improved (Cumulus' cancellation of "Lost And Found" notwithstanding).
He seems to have a flexibility about the peculiarity of this local market that DC lacked.
While I still maintain that DC was doing what Cumulus wanted, by & large, he didn't seem to understand that you can play more alt-y currents and more recent years without completely abandoning what 10@10 is supposed to be about.
uber-LN-infinity: JB "I Feel Good"
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James Brown "I Got You (I Feel Good)"
There seem to be a number of late '60's and early '70's JB songs that can make it on the radio, but for mid-'60's, this one is pretty much it.
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BOS5 Otis, "Mr Pitiful", easily one of my faves of his.
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Otis Redding "Mr. Pitiful"
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Otis Redding "Mr. Pitiful"
"Otis, my man!"
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Let's not forget Mr. Derringer in any discussion of "Hang On Sloopy!"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hang_On_Sloopy
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OMFG: Mystery year! "Positively 4th St" means it's 1965!
ETA: once again we get 2 '60s sets in one week. Making for a very happy Friday.
Speaking of Friday, does this mean a possible return of "Hits From Hell" next Friday?
If not, I'll post a Morey classic that day. 8)
I was wondering that too -- AL and DC were both kind of anti- HFH sets, preferring to sprinkle hellish songs sparingly thru regular 10@10s. Maybe Mr Pugh feels differently.
While Mr. Pugh doesn't sound as if he's The Most Interesting Man In The World, I have to say that the quality of KFOG's music has generally improved (Cumulus' cancellation of "Lost And Found" notwithstanding).
He seems to have a flexibility about the peculiarity of this local market that DC lacked.
While I still maintain that DC was doing what Cumulus wanted, by & large, he didn't seem to understand that you can play more alt-y currents and more recent years without completely abandoning what 10@10 is supposed to be about.
I don't know. The experience of these last two programming directors is making me think Cumulus et al. just tell the PD's to get the ratings up, then fire them if they don't. Cumulus doesn't spend on their stations, why would they pay for consultants, market research, and focus groups, and have a ton of input into the programming of each of their stations? Just set a format, hire an experienced hand, and watch the ratings. Maybe somebody has more inside info on the workings of the radio conglomerates, but just by listening, the approach I just described is the impression that I get.
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The Kinks "Till The End Of The Day"
This is a tired subject, but I'll go there anyway: 10:18 and we're on song 6.
THOSE MID-60'S AND THEIR DARN SHORT SONGS!
I've suggested a 35 minute minimum to the sets. Not holding my breath.
about 5 minutes short
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Let's not forget Mr. Derringer in any discussion of "Hang On Sloopy!"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hang_On_Sloopy
The second sentence of the Wiki article explains who Sloopy was.
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Renee: BOS Otis Redding
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OMFG: Mystery year! "Positively 4th St" means it's 1965!
ETA: once again we get 2 '60s sets in one week. Making for a very happy Friday.
Speaking of Friday, does this mean a possible return of "Hits From Hell" next Friday?
If not, I'll post a Morey classic that day. 8)
I was wondering that too -- AL and DC were both kind of anti- HFH sets, preferring to sprinkle hellish songs sparingly thru regular 10@10s. Maybe Mr Pugh feels differently.
While Mr. Pugh doesn't sound as if he's The Most Interesting Man In The World, I have to say that the quality of KFOG's music has generally improved (Cumulus' cancellation of "Lost And Found" notwithstanding).
He seems to have a flexibility about the peculiarity of this local market that DC lacked.
While I still maintain that DC was doing what Cumulus wanted, by & large, he didn't seem to understand that you can play more alt-y currents and more recent years without completely abandoning what 10@10 is supposed to be about.
I don't know. The experience of these last two programming directors is making me think Cumulus et al. just tell the PD's to get the ratings up, then fire them if they don't. Cumulus doesn't spend on their stations, why would they pay for consultants, market research, and focus groups, and have a ton of input into the programming of each of their stations? Just set a format, hire an experienced hand, and watch the ratings. Maybe somebody has more inside info on the workings of the radio conglomerates, but just by listening, the approach I just described is the impression that I get.
Yes. In some ways, the ratings is like politics - there is a certain core audience which will listen to KFOG come hell or highwater. It's the extra people who will turn away if:
1) The music offends them (which really shouldn't be the case here)
2) The music bores them (which a lack of variety will do)
3) The music doesn't interest them (i.e. they MUST hear "We Will Rock You" every hour).
4) Too many f-ing commercials.
Obviously, issue 2 was paramount w/ DC.
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I don't know. The experience of these last two programming directors is making me think Cumulus et al. just tell the PD's to get the ratings up, then fire them if they don't. Cumulus doesn't spend on their stations, why would they pay for consultants, market research, and focus groups, and have a ton of input into the programming of each of their stations? Just set a format, hire an experienced hand, and watch the ratings. Maybe somebody has more inside info on the workings of the radio conglomerates, but just by listening, the approach I just described is the impression that I get.
Well, AL pretty much told us that DC was an absolute geek about research, what songs to play when, "trigger" songs and so on. And Cumulus has their own in-house research arm, iirc, so they don't pay a fortune to an outside firm. They wanted younger demos for KFOG and that was what DC was supposed to accomplish; now they seem to have eased off on that, or at least on his version of what that meant. And I still think the Twitch debacle was their idea not his.
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I don't know. The experience of these last two programming directors is making me think Cumulus et al. just tell the PD's to get the ratings up, then fire them if they don't. Cumulus doesn't spend on their stations, why would they pay for consultants, market research, and focus groups, and have a ton of input into the programming of each of their stations? Just set a format, hire an experienced hand, and watch the ratings. Maybe somebody has more inside info on the workings of the radio conglomerates, but just by listening, the approach I just described is the impression that I get.
Well, AL pretty much told us that DC was an absolute geek about research, what songs to play when, "trigger" songs and so on. And Cumulus has their own in-house research arm, iirc, so they don't pay a fortune to an outside firm. They wanted younger demos for KFOG and that was what DC was supposed to accomplish; now they seem to have eased off on that, or at least on his version of what that meant. And I still think the Twitch debacle was their idea not his.
That sounds right.
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I don't know. The experience of these last two programming directors is making me think Cumulus et al. just tell the PD's to get the ratings up, then fire them if they don't. Cumulus doesn't spend on their stations, why would they pay for consultants, market research, and focus groups, and have a ton of input into the programming of each of their stations? Just set a format, hire an experienced hand, and watch the ratings. Maybe somebody has more inside info on the workings of the radio conglomerates, but just by listening, the approach I just described is the impression that I get.
Well, AL pretty much told us that DC was an absolute geek about research, what songs to play when, "trigger" songs and so on. And Cumulus has their own in-house research arm, iirc, so they don't pay a fortune to an outside firm. They wanted younger demos for KFOG and that was what DC was supposed to accomplish; now they seem to have eased off on that, or at least on his version of what that meant. And I still think the Twitch debacle was their idea not his.
Many years from now, everybody involved in the Twitch debacle is going to look back on it and think "WTF was going on?"
To DC's credit, when it became obvious that the Twitch hiring was not going to work, he acted upon it. At least, that's what I'd like to believe.
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I don't know. The experience of these last two programming directors is making me think Cumulus et al. just tell the PD's to get the ratings up, then fire them if they don't. Cumulus doesn't spend on their stations, why would they pay for consultants, market research, and focus groups, and have a ton of input into the programming of each of their stations? Just set a format, hire an experienced hand, and watch the ratings. Maybe somebody has more inside info on the workings of the radio conglomerates, but just by listening, the approach I just described is the impression that I get.
Well, AL pretty much told us that DC was an absolute geek about research, what songs to play when, "trigger" songs and so on. And Cumulus has their own in-house research arm, iirc, so they don't pay a fortune to an outside firm. They wanted younger demos for KFOG and that was what DC was supposed to accomplish; now they seem to have eased off on that, or at least on his version of what that meant. And I still think the Twitch debacle was their idea not his.
That sounds right.
yeah, he did the proper thing and fell on the sword in public taking all the blame for making a bad judgement call, but it had to come from corporate. it was exciting times in local radio, at least.
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I took the L Taraval today all the way from the end of the line to the end of the line (Zoo to Embarcadero) and was able to listen to the whole soundcloud file on my iPhone. It was a pretty nice experience, especially the Dylan tune.
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Friday September 6, 2013 - Mystery Year (1965)
1. Positively 4th Street - Bob Dylan
2. I Can't Help Myself - The Four Tops
3. The Last Time - Rolling Stones
4. Heart Full of Soul - Yardbirds
5. Hang on Sloopy - The McCoys
6. Til The End of the Day - The Kinks
7. Wooly Bully - Sam the Sham & the Pharaohs
8. Wait - The Beatles
9. I Got You (I Feel Good) - James Brown
10. Mr. Pitiful - Otis Redding
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Sometimes I miss the front-sell and the show becomes like a mystery year; the challenge is to
correctly identify it before a sounder is played. That happened with this set, and I was quite
surprised when I discovered it was an actually mystery year.
... and I was wrong. Count me among the many who mis-identified it as 1966. For me it just
demonstrates that I don't have many strong year-specific memories linked to music until about
1968.
And it was quite a short set. Like the recent 1963 show, it could have easily been lengthened
by the use of some well-chosen clips. TV theme song medleys, movie trailers, news reports...
how hard can it be? It's not rocket surgery...