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Title: 5 July 2013... a "classic" from 1993
Post by: RGMike on July 05, 2013, 09:53:29 AM
or so Tim indicated.

Feh: '93, starting with Belly. appears to be from Jan.

1. Belly - Feed The Tree
2. Cracker - Euro-Trash Girl
3. Concrete Blonde - Mexican Moon
(Commercial: you'll spend 24.5 years sleeping. 14.5 years working, etc)
4. Sheryl Crow - Leaving Las Vegas
5. John Hiatt - Perfectly Good Guitar
6. Counting Crows - Mr. Jones
7. Chris Isaak - San Francisco Days
(News: River Phoenix dead)
8. Morphine - Buena
9. 10,000 Maniacs - Because The Night
(Movie: Coneheads - I come from France)
10. Red Hot Chili Peppers - Soul To Squeeze
Title: Re: 5 July 2013... a "classic" from ??
Post by: radical347 on July 05, 2013, 10:03:01 AM
1993.  It looks like this one, from Jan. 24 of this year:

1. Belly - Feed The Tree
2. Cracker - Euro-Trash Girl
3. Concrete Blonde - Mexican Moon
(Commercial: you'll spend 24.5 years sleeping. 14.5 years working, etc)
4. Sheryl Crow - Leaving Las Vegas
5. John Hiatt - Perfectly Good Guitar
6. Counting Crows - Mr. Jones
7. Chris Isaak - San Francisco Days
(News: River Phoenix dead)
8. Morphine - Buena
9. 10,000 Maniacs - Because The Night
(Movie: Coneheads - I come from France)
10. Red Hot Chili Peppers - Soul To Squeeze

A couple decent tracks, a couple of wretched ones, lots of LN's, nothing earth shattering.  First 90s set in how long, and it's a rerun.  Meh.  (Not that a new one would be that much better.)
Title: Re: 5 July 2013... a "classic" from 1993
Post by: Lightnin' Rod on July 05, 2013, 10:45:55 AM
BOS, Counting Crows
Title: Re: 5 July 2013... a "classic" from 1993
Post by: Here'sToYa! on July 05, 2013, 11:06:55 AM
I believe the Ranter-in-Chief on FB has mentioned this, but it bears repeating here: except for side players, 10@10 is becoming an exclusively Caucasian enclave. Sure, the sets have improved since the sacking of DC, but changing this trend would be most welcome.
Title: Re: 5 July 2013... a "classic" from 1993
Post by: RGMike on July 05, 2013, 01:10:09 PM
I believe the Ranter-in-Chief on FB has mentioned this, but it bears repeating here: except for side players, 10@10 is becoming an exclusively Caucasian enclave. Sure, the sets have improved since the sacking of DC, but changing this trend would be most welcome.

Agreed -- even the mostly excellent '60s and '70s sets have been soul-free.  Which is really odd, given what's available in those years.
Title: Re: 5 July 2013... a "classic" from 1993
Post by: Tinka Cat on July 05, 2013, 02:14:35 PM
I believe the Ranter-in-Chief on FB has mentioned this, but it bears repeating here: except for side players, 10@10 is becoming an exclusively Caucasian enclave. Sure, the sets have improved since the sacking of DC, but changing this trend would be most welcome.

Agreed -- even the mostly excellent '60s and '70s sets have been soul-free.  Which is really odd, given what's available in those years.

How many artists of color are in the regular KFOG rotation?  I'm guessing not many.  I agree that the sprinkling of soul and funk is great in 10at10s, but if the business is targeting the white middle age demo, it sorta makes some sense from the corporation's standpoint to not makes radio waves in the sets. 

Title: Re: 5 July 2013... a "classic" from 1993
Post by: radical347 on July 05, 2013, 04:14:43 PM
I believe the Ranter-in-Chief on FB has mentioned this, but it bears repeating here: except for side players, 10@10 is becoming an exclusively Caucasian enclave. Sure, the sets have improved since the sacking of DC, but changing this trend would be most welcome.

Agreed -- even the mostly excellent '60s and '70s sets have been soul-free.  Which is really odd, given what's available in those years.

How many artists of color are in the regular KFOG rotation?  I'm guessing not many.  I agree that the sprinkling of soul and funk is great in 10at10s, but if the business is targeting the white middle age demo, it sorta makes some sense from the corporation's standpoint to not makes radio waves in the sets.

It isn't a lot, but it's at least a sprinkling.  There's Emeli Sande, Gary Clark Jr., Michael Kiwanuka, Michael Franti, and the girl from Alabama Shakes and Fitz & the Tantrums.
Title: Re: 5 July 2013... a "classic" from 1993
Post by: Tinka Cat on July 05, 2013, 04:28:48 PM
I believe the Ranter-in-Chief on FB has mentioned this, but it bears repeating here: except for side players, 10@10 is becoming an exclusively Caucasian enclave. Sure, the sets have improved since the sacking of DC, but changing this trend would be most welcome.

Agreed -- even the mostly excellent '60s and '70s sets have been soul-free.  Which is really odd, given what's available in those years.

How many artists of color are in the regular KFOG rotation?  I'm guessing not many.  I agree that the sprinkling of soul and funk is great in 10at10s, but if the business is targeting the white middle age demo, it sorta makes some sense from the corporation's standpoint to not makes radio waves in the sets.

It isn't a lot, but it's at least a sprinkling.  There's Emeli Sande, Gary Clark Jr., Michael Kiwanuka, Michael Franti, and the girl from Alabama Shakes and Fitz & the Tantrums.

those are all artists of "currents" as you radio folks say? In the 10at10 years, I suppose they stick to what they played back then, AOR, which is pretty white. But at least some female artists were played. 

Then again, 10at10 is a chance for KFOG to break out of their usual space and get diverse.   Then again (again), to a lot of folks, including the typical KFOG listener, "diverse" might mean playing If You Can't Rock Me instead of It's Only Rock N Roll in a 74 set.
Title: Re: 5 July 2013... a "classic" from 1993
Post by: CapnJack on July 05, 2013, 05:24:20 PM
I believe the Ranter-in-Chief on FB has mentioned this, but it bears repeating here: except for side players, 10@10 is becoming an exclusively Caucasian enclave. Sure, the sets have improved since the sacking of DC, but changing this trend would be most welcome.

Agreed -- even the mostly excellent '60s and '70s sets have been soul-free.  Which is really odd, given what's available in those years.

How many artists of color are in the regular KFOG rotation?  I'm guessing not many.  I agree that the sprinkling of soul and funk is great in 10at10s, but if the business is targeting the white middle age demo, it sorta makes some sense from the corporation's standpoint to not makes radio waves in the sets.

It isn't a lot, but it's at least a sprinkling.  There's Emeli Sande, Gary Clark Jr., Michael Kiwanuka, Michael Franti, and the girl from Alabama Shakes and Fitz & the Tantrums.

those are all artists of "currents" as you radio folks say? In the 10at10 years, I suppose they stick to what they played back then, AOR, which is pretty white. But at least some female artists were played. 

Then again, 10at10 is a chance for KFOG to break out of their usual space and get diverse.   Then again (again), to a lot of folks, including the typical KFOG listener, "diverse" might mean playing If You Can't Rock Me instead of It's Only Rock N Roll in a 74 set.

Lenny Kravitz, Tracy Chapman, Robert Cray... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPQpsipHKU8)

My recent '74 set (https://soundcloud.com/retrocapnjack/50-10-10-1974) tilted in the opposite direction...
Title: Re: 5 July 2013... a "classic" from 1993
Post by: Here'sToYa! on July 05, 2013, 09:33:52 PM
I believe the Ranter-in-Chief on FB has mentioned this, but it bears repeating here: except for side players, 10@10 is becoming an exclusively Caucasian enclave. Sure, the sets have improved since the sacking of DC, but changing this trend would be most welcome.

Agreed -- even the mostly excellent '60s and '70s sets have been soul-free.  Which is really odd, given what's available in those years.

How many artists of color are in the regular KFOG rotation?  I'm guessing not many.  I agree that the sprinkling of soul and funk is great in 10at10s, but if the business is targeting the white middle age demo, it sorta makes some sense from the corporation's standpoint to not makes radio waves in the sets.

That's what I was thinking, Cat. The station is re-branding, yet again, so it wants to stay consistent in its musical choices, which in radio for the last however many decades means segregation.
Title: Re: 5 July 2013... a "classic" from 1993
Post by: ggould on July 06, 2013, 04:46:05 PM
I believe the Ranter-in-Chief on FB has mentioned this, but it bears repeating here: except for side players, 10@10 is becoming an exclusively Caucasian enclave. Sure, the sets have improved since the sacking of DC, but changing this trend would be most welcome.
Agreed -- even the mostly excellent '60s and '70s sets have been soul-free.  Which is really odd, given what's available in those years.
How many artists of color are in the regular KFOG rotation?  I'm guessing not many.  I agree that the sprinkling of soul and funk is great in 10at10s, but if the business is targeting the white middle age demo, it sorta makes some sense from the corporation's standpoint to not makes radio waves in the sets.
That's what I was thinking, Cat. The station is re-branding, yet again, so it wants to stay consistent in its musical choices, which in radio for the last however many decades means segregation.
It's one thing to cop out and say you're just trying to appeal to a white audience (This may be sadly true) but that doesn't translate to white listeners not wanting to hear black music. 
Title: Re: 5 July 2013... a "classic" from 1993
Post by: Big Fingers McGee on July 07, 2013, 03:59:14 PM
Who has more soul? Lenny Kravitz or Hall-n-Oates? It does seem that what black artists KFOG does play don't really fit the definition of R-n-B (Noelle, from Fitz & The Tantrums, has the chops to do almost anything).

What would be an interesting 10@10 that won't happen: Black artists who don't sound black.
Title: Re: 5 July 2013... a "classic" from 1993
Post by: RGMike on July 07, 2013, 04:06:18 PM

What would be an interesting 10@10 that won't happen: Black artists who don't sound black.

followed by 10 white artists who DO sound black.
Title: Re: 5 July 2013... a "classic" from 1993
Post by: radical347 on July 07, 2013, 08:56:24 PM
What would be an interesting 10@10 that won't happen: Black artists who don't sound black.

First name that comes to mind: Fefe Dobson.
Title: Re: 5 July 2013... a "classic" from 1993
Post by: Big Fingers McGee on July 08, 2013, 05:49:22 AM
What would be an interesting 10@10 that won't happen: Black artists who don't sound black.

First name that comes to mind: Fefe Dobson.

Ha! I was thinking of candidates, and she was amongst the first, along with Tasmin Archer.