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Main Discussion Area => KFOG's 10@10 => Topic started by: urth on June 26, 2013, 11:02:18 AM
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Renee was just talking about the Supreme Court rulings on DOMA and Prop 8, and mentioned that she would be doing a Pride set on Friday. Some things are just too important to be skipped over. (Sorry, Moms!)
She also seemed to be getting a little emotional talking about how marriage was now legal for all in California, then quickly went into a very synthy song I don't recognize.
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yay and HAAAAAY! I'm gonna guess she will stick to classic songs from Pride sets past. Shouldn't be too hard to put together.
I'd love it if she plays Macklemore & Ryan Lewis "Same Love" but won't be shocked if she doesn't.
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Heard the promo just now. "We celebrate Pride Weekend". I'm guessing we're gonna hear as many "party" type songs as we do gay-specific ones. Just a hunch.
Which wouldn't be a terrible idea if we get, say, Pink, as opposed to Kool & the Gang.
ETA: Tim & Greg just played "Save Me San Francisco" as part of a My 3 Songs thing -- please Renee do NOT play it again in 2 hours.
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Renee was just talking about the Supreme Court rulings on DOMA and Prop 8, and mentioned that she would be doing a Pride set on Friday. Some things are just too important to be skipped over. (Sorry, Moms!)
She also seemed to be getting a little emotional talking about how marriage was now legal for all in California, then quickly went into a very synthy song I don't recognize.
According to TuneGenie, the song Renee played was "I'm Alive (Life Sounds Like)" by Michael Franti & Spearhead.
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Renee was just talking about the Supreme Court rulings on DOMA and Prop 8, and mentioned that she would be doing a Pride set on Friday. Some things are just too important to be skipped over. (Sorry, Moms!)
She also seemed to be getting a little emotional talking about how marriage was now legal for all in California, then quickly went into a very synthy song I don't recognize.
According to TuneGenie, the song Renee played was "I'm Alive (Life Sounds Like)" by Michael Franti & Spearhead.
which is the godawful current hit of his that we (and the g-snipes) have been ragging on lo these many weeks:
Like John and Yoko / Like Ice-T and Coco
Like Jay-Z, Beyonce / Come be my fiance
etc...
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"I've never seen Renee work so hard on a 10@10" said Tim just now. Welll... neither have we!
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TOTHK George Michael "Freedom"
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Wow: George Michael, "Freedom" -- wasn't expecting this but an interesting choice (even if it isn't really about that kind of, er, freedom, I don't think).
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Morey staple #1: Timbuk 3, "Legalize Our Love". BOS1
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Timbuk 3 "Legalize Our Love"
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Morey staple #1: Timbuk 3, "Legalize Our Love". BOS1
Guessing the set will break down about 50/50 between Morey evergreens and Renee's picks. So far, so good.
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Lenny K, "Let Love Rule" -- DC would be proud. Cover that core demo, yo. But one I personally never need to hear again.
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Lenny Kravitz "Let Love Rule"
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YAY!!! BOS2 Macklemore & Ryan Lewis. VERY glad she included this one. I adore it.
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Macklemore & Ryan Lewis "Same Love"
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BOS3 JJ's live version of "Real Men"
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Joe Jackson "Real Men" (live)
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Madonna "Vogue"
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Hahahaha! Madonna, "Vogue", which we know AL probably wouldn't've played, tho' DM featured it in a couple of 1990 sets back in the day.
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YAY!!! BOS2 Macklemore & Ryan Lewis. VERY glad she included this one. I adore it.
Def. on topic. I think Dave would approve.
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"Freedom 90'", "Vogue" and "Real Men" are all examples of gay-themed songs for which straights need not be ashamed they like.
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BOS4 Erasure.
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Erasure "A Little Respect"
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Rufus Wainwright "One Man Guy"
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for reference, AL's set from last year:
6/22/12 - FRIDAY! The Annual SF LGBT Pride Celebration!
(Open: Neil Patrick Harris-Clip from Tony Awards '11 tune "It's not just for gays anymore")
1. Carl Bean - I Was Born This Way
(News: President Obama-"Every single American deserves to be treated equally")
2. Billy Bragg - Sexuality
(Harvey Milk - Give 'em hope speech)
3. Pet Shop Boys - Go West
(Harvey Milk-Let's work together)
4. k.d. lang - Just Keep Me Moving
(TV: Glee - Santana comes out to her dissaproving grandmother)
5. Flirtations - Everything Possible
(TV: Modern Family - Cam + Mitch are having a baby)
6. Rufus Wainwright - Montauk
(TV: Friends- Rachel (Jennifer Aniston) & old friend (Winona Ryder) discuss the kiss)
7. Jill Sobule - I Kissed a Girl
(TV: Will & Grace-Will (Eric McCormack) deals with closeted cop's questions about "a gay")
8. Willie Nelson - Cowboys are Frequently, Secretly Fond of Each Other (B.O.S! Tie!)
Movie: Transamerica-Bree (Felicity Huffman) in her pre-sexual reassignment surgery psychiatric screening)
9. The Polyphonic Spree - Wig in a Box
(News: ABC Breaking news from The White House: President Obama is for Same Sex Marriage)
10. Sylvester - You Make Me Feel (Mighty Real) (B.O.S!-Tie!)
Obviously, more overtly political (as DM's also were)
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Rufus Wainwright's "One Man Guy" is NTM and very nice. BOS5.
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Tom Robinson Band "Glad To Be Gay"
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BOS6 another Morey staple: Tom Robinson. I saw him several times in NYC back in the day, once at the Bottom Line, where we were close enuf to touch him.
"It's there in the paper, it must be the truth"
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for reference, AL's set from last year:
6/22/12 - FRIDAY! The Annual SF LGBT Pride Celebration!
(Open: Neil Patrick Harris-Clip from Tony Awards '11 tune "It's not just for gays anymore")
1. Carl Bean - I Was Born This Way
(News: President Obama-"Every single American deserves to be treated equally")
2. Billy Bragg - Sexuality
(Harvey Milk - Give 'em hope speech)
3. Pet Shop Boys - Go West
(Harvey Milk-Let's work together)
4. k.d. lang - Just Keep Me Moving
(TV: Glee - Santana comes out to her dissaproving grandmother)
5. Flirtations - Everything Possible
(TV: Modern Family - Cam + Mitch are having a baby)
6. Rufus Wainwright - Montauk
(TV: Friends- Rachel (Jennifer Aniston) & old friend (Winona Ryder) discuss the kiss)
7. Jill Sobule - I Kissed a Girl
(TV: Will & Grace-Will (Eric McCormack) deals with closeted cop's questions about "a gay")
8. Willie Nelson - Cowboys are Frequently, Secretly Fond of Each Other (B.O.S! Tie!)
Movie: Transamerica-Bree (Felicity Huffman) in her pre-sexual reassignment surgery psychiatric screening)
9. The Polyphonic Spree - Wig in a Box
(News: ABC Breaking news from The White House: President Obama is for Same Sex Marriage)
10. Sylvester - You Make Me Feel (Mighty Real) (B.O.S!-Tie!)
Obviously, more overtly political (as DM's also were)
Great minds...I just went back to that set's page to pull last year's list. Well done.
Last year's set stayed away from the usual suspects, too -- only Jill Sobule and Sylvester. I'm thinking we'll get You Make Me Feel as tune #10.
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Lady GaGa "Born This Way"
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"Born This Way" - more unexpected than Macklemore, but this might as well be the "You Make Me Feel" of the 2010s. :P
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Lady GaGa "Born This Way"
Hard to believe this song is now over two years old.
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Per Renee: two-way tie for BOS - Joe Jackson and Lady GaGa
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Had to leave for a meeting, but not really sorry I missed the ridiculously overrated Lady Gaga; the Carl Bean song of the same name is superior in every possible way.
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Had to leave for a meeting, but not really sorry I missed the ridiculously overrated Lady Gaga; the Carl Bean song of the same name is superior in every possible way.
I will say that Weird Al's cover of this, "Perform This Way" might be one of his least inspired.
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-- Friday -- Pride
1. George Michael - Freedom '90
2. Timbuk3 - Leagalize Our Love
3. Lenny Kravitz - Let Love Rule
4. Macklemore and Ryan Lewis - Same Love
5. Joe Jackson - Real Men
6. Madonna - Vogue
7. Erasure - A Little Respect
8. Rufus Wainwright - One Man Guy
9. Tom Robinson Band - Glad To Be Gay
10. Lady Gaga - Born This Way
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Joe Jackson "Real Men" (live)
A line in this song reminded me of a quote from my collection:
"There has been a great diversity of opinion on the subject, but the general accepted rule is
pink for the boy and blue for the girl. Pink, being a more decided and stronger color, is more
suitable for the boy, while blue, which is more delicate and dainty, is prettier for the girl."
-- Ladies Home Journal, 1918
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"Freedom 90'", "Vogue" and "Real Men" are all examples of gay-themed songs for which straights need not be ashamed they like.
Why would a straight person be ashamed of liking any gay-themed song? (BTW, I don't find
"Freedom 90" or "Vogue" to be necessarily gay-themed.)
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"Freedom 90'", "Vogue" and "Real Men" are all examples of gay-themed songs for which straights need not be ashamed they like.
Why would a straight person be ashamed of liking any gay-themed song? (BTW, I don't find
"Freedom 90" or "Vogue" to be necessarily gay-themed.)
To BFM's point, I think of "Real Men" as a gateway song to a more enlightened person. To some extent, bigotry is a learned behavior, and sometimes we need help unlearning bad behaviors. I remember being on the bus while in high school, and mentioning my admiration for "Killer Queen". Somebody asked, sneeringly, if I knew it was a "gay" song. I had not, but, in that moment, I realized that it didn't matter to me. I haven't been embarrassed about liking "gay music" since, though I wouldn't say I was completely comfortable with gay issues yet. "Real Men" (plus 4 years at SF State) gave me clearer insight into the world and myself, and was part of my personal evolution into the goofy but open minded bastard I am today.
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"Freedom 90'", "Vogue" and "Real Men" are all examples of gay-themed songs for which straights need not be ashamed they like.
Why would a straight person be ashamed of liking any gay-themed song? (BTW, I don't find
"Freedom 90" or "Vogue" to be necessarily gay-themed.)
To BFM's point, I think of "Real Men" as a gateway song to a more enlightened person. To some extent, bigotry is a learned behavior, and sometimes we need help unlearning bad behaviors. I remember being on the bus while in high school, and mentioning my admiration for "Killer Queen". Somebody asked, sneeringly, if I knew it was a "gay" song. I had not, but, in that moment, I realized that it didn't matter to me. I haven't been embarrassed about liking "gay music" since, though I wouldn't say I was completely comfortable with gay issues yet. "Real Men" (plus 4 years at SF State) gave me clearer insight into the world and myself, and was part of my personal evolution into the goofy but open minded bastard I am today.
Well said, Rod. Found myself looking for the "like" button for this.
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"Freedom 90'", "Vogue" and "Real Men" are all examples of gay-themed songs for which straights need not be ashamed they like.
Why would a straight person be ashamed of liking any gay-themed song? (BTW, I don't find
"Freedom 90" or "Vogue" to be necessarily gay-themed.)
To BFM's point, I think of "Real Men" as a gateway song to a more enlightened person. To some extent, bigotry is a learned behavior, and sometimes we need help unlearning bad behaviors. I remember being on the bus while in high school, and mentioning my admiration for "Killer Queen". Somebody asked, sneeringly, if I knew it was a "gay" song. I had not, but, in that moment, I realized that it didn't matter to me. I haven't been embarrassed about liking "gay music" since, though I wouldn't say I was completely comfortable with gay issues yet. "Real Men" (plus 4 years at SF State) gave me clearer insight into the world and myself, and was part of my personal evolution into the goofy but open minded bastard I am today.
Well said, Rod. Found myself looking for the "like" button for this.
Indeed.
and a nice piece in the NYT yesterday about the Macklemore & Lewis song.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/01/arts/music/stars-align-for-a-gay-marriage-anthem.html?pagewanted=1&_r=0
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"Freedom 90'", "Vogue" and "Real Men" are all examples of gay-themed songs for which straights need not be ashamed they like.
Why would a straight person be ashamed of liking any gay-themed song? (BTW, I don't find
"Freedom 90" or "Vogue" to be necessarily gay-themed.)
To BFM's point, I think of "Real Men" as a gateway song to a more enlightened person. To some extent, bigotry is a learned behavior, and sometimes we need help unlearning bad behaviors. I remember being on the bus while in high school, and mentioning my admiration for "Killer Queen". Somebody asked, sneeringly, if I knew it was a "gay" song. I had not, but, in that moment, I realized that it didn't matter to me. I haven't been embarrassed about liking "gay music" since, though I wouldn't say I was completely comfortable with gay issues yet. "Real Men" (plus 4 years at SF State) gave me clearer insight into the world and myself, and was part of my personal evolution into the goofy but open minded bastard I am today.
I guess I don't feel like I should be embarrassed about liking a song, regardless of its theme.
(Unless, perhaps, if the song isn't very good, in which case it's a "guilty pleasure.")
In regard to the topic at hand, in school I was far more often the victim of adolescent macho
bullshit than the instigator, so if anything I would have been more sympathic to "gay music"
than not. I was also mostly oblivious to my classmates sexuality. I had no idea that McGreevey
was gay. And it was only many years later that I discovered that one of my best high school
buddies was gay, as well as another acquaintance who was a good friend of my brother.
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"Freedom 90'", "Vogue" and "Real Men" are all examples of gay-themed songs for which straights need not be ashamed they like.
Why would a straight person be ashamed of liking any gay-themed song? (BTW, I don't find
"Freedom 90" or "Vogue" to be necessarily gay-themed.)
To BFM's point, I think of "Real Men" as a gateway song to a more enlightened person. To some extent, bigotry is a learned behavior, and sometimes we need help unlearning bad behaviors. I remember being on the bus while in high school, and mentioning my admiration for "Killer Queen". Somebody asked, sneeringly, if I knew it was a "gay" song. I had not, but, in that moment, I realized that it didn't matter to me. I haven't been embarrassed about liking "gay music" since, though I wouldn't say I was completely comfortable with gay issues yet. "Real Men" (plus 4 years at SF State) gave me clearer insight into the world and myself, and was part of my personal evolution into the goofy but open minded bastard I am today.
I guess I don't feel like I should be embarrassed about liking a song, regardless of its theme.
(Unless, perhaps, if the song isn't very good, in which case it's a "guilty pleasure.")
In regard to the topic at hand, in school I was far more often the victim of adolescent macho
bullshit than the instigator, so if anything I would have been more sympathic to "gay music"
than not. I was also mostly oblivious to my classmates sexuality. I had no idea that McGreevey
was gay. And it was only many years later that I discovered that one of my best high school
buddies was gay, as well as another acquaintance who was a good friend of my brother.
Vogue def got its start from gay culture. I remember seeing vogue dancers at the Tunnel Club in about 1988 and Ooooh, Gurl, sooo gay! But your point is taken, no one really should be ashamed (or embarrassed or uncomfy) at enjoying "gay" music, but those people are still out there.
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While in High School, I mentioned that I liked the song "Wake Me Up Before You Go-Go". I probably shouldn't have said that in shop class, but to make a long story short, that stuck with me.
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Vogue def got its start from gay culture. I remember seeing vogue dancers at the Tunnel Club in about 1988 and Ooooh, Gurl, sooo gay! But your point is taken, no one really should be ashamed (or embarrassed or uncomfy) at enjoying "gay" music, but those people are still out there.
see the documentary Paris is Burning.
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While in High School, I mentioned that I liked the song "Wake Me Up Before You Go-Go". I probably shouldn't have said that in shop class, but to make a long story short, that stuck with me.
yeah, in shop class you really gotta butch it up some -- those guys all like real man's music, like Judas Priest.
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Vogue def got its start from gay culture. I remember seeing vogue dancers at the Tunnel Club in about 1988 and Ooooh, Gurl, sooo gay!
Yes, I know, but that still doesn't make Vogue a gay-themed song.
BTW, Madge was late to the party, as Malcolm McLaren already mined that cultural vein in
his Waltz Darling from the previous year.