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Title: Thursday July 28--it's....1985
Post by: urth on July 28, 2005, 09:59:25 AM
Some year in the 80s, I'm guessing

ETA: Not a tough call. REM a nice start, albeit not a rarity.
Title: Re: Thursday July 28--it's....
Post by: RGMike on July 28, 2005, 10:00:20 AM
Quote from: "urth"
Some year in the 80s, I'm guessing


I'll bet yer right.  I'm off to a 10:00 meeting, be back (I hope) before it's over.
Title: S
Post by: urth on July 28, 2005, 10:03:17 AM
Dave's YIM thing in my buddy list sez we're playing Spot the Vinyl today.

The REM ain't it.
Title: Thursday July 28--it's....1985
Post by: Alicat on July 28, 2005, 10:16:05 AM
BOS the Firm
I think what I heard as background music.
Title: Thursday July 28--it's....1985
Post by: Beej on July 28, 2005, 10:16:39 AM
ew. Phil.
Title: Thursday July 28--it's....1985
Post by: urth on July 28, 2005, 10:16:48 AM
He-l-l-l-o-o-o-? (hello...hello...hello...)

Darn quiet today--Mike's in a meeting, Mark's on the road, and we've got 1985. Not tough to figure.

Closest to a BOS so far the Bowie/Metheny collaboration on This is Not America from The Falcon & The Snowman.

And DEFINTE WOS to Phils Collins and Bailey for Easy Lover.
Title: Thursday July 28--it's....1985
Post by: RGMike on July 28, 2005, 10:21:53 AM
Quote from: "urth"
He-l-l-l-o-o-o-? (hello...hello...hello...)

Darn quiet today--Mike's in a meeting, Mark's on the road, and we've got 1985. Not tough to figure.

Closest to a BOS so far the Bowie/Metheny collaboration on This is Not America from The Falcon & The Snowman.

And DEFINTE WOS to Phils Collins and Bailey for Easy Lover.


I dunno... Mr Bailey helps bring Mr Collins up a notch, IMHO.  Not a BOS or anything, mind you...

Now HERE'S a WOS: "Heaven" by Bryan Adams. Yuck.
Title: Thursday July 28--it's....1985
Post by: Lightnin' Rod on July 28, 2005, 10:22:31 AM
Quote from: "urth"
He-l-l-l-o-o-o-? (hello...hello...hello...)

Darn quiet today--Mike's in a meeting, Mark's on the road, and we've got 1985. Not tough to figure.

Closest to a BOS so far the Bowie/Metheny collaboration on This is Not America from The Falcon & The Snowman.

And DEFINTE WOS to Phils Collins and Bailey for Easy Lover.


*snore* urk. huh, what?  Oh.

Sorry, I must have dozed for a while.

About the Firm track -- what good is having Jimmy Page on a song if he's not going to step up and save it?
Title: Thursday July 28--it's....1985
Post by: Davefish on July 28, 2005, 10:22:39 AM
Bryan Adams gets my WOS vote.  I can't stand the guy.  VHM for the singing robot, though.
Title: Thursday July 28--it's....1985
Post by: Beej on July 28, 2005, 10:23:35 AM
Oh, man. This set is killing me with it's 1985edness....
Title: Thursday July 28--it's....1985
Post by: Rastermon on July 28, 2005, 10:26:37 AM
Like to hear Jon Fogerty - Centerfield - I think that was '85
Title: Thursday July 28--it's....1985
Post by: urth on July 28, 2005, 10:26:53 AM
I'm tempted to vote for Phantom, Rocker & Slick for BOS just cuz I like how those names sound together. And the song kinda rocks, too.

I'm stumped on the vinyl so far tho--anyone else heard any clicks or pops?
Title: Thursday July 28--it's....1985
Post by: RGMike on July 28, 2005, 10:30:57 AM
Quote from: "urth"
I'm tempted to vote for Phantom, Rocker & Slick for BOS just cuz I like how those names sound together. And the song kinda rocks, too.

I'm stumped on the vinyl so far tho--anyone else heard any clicks or pops?


I always wanna call 'em Phantom Slicker & Rock.  I haven't detected vinyl either -- we need the vinyl detector van from the Ministry of Housinge...
Title: Thursday July 28--it's....1985
Post by: urth on July 28, 2005, 10:32:34 AM
Quote from: "RGMike"
Quote from: "urth"
I'm tempted to vote for Phantom, Rocker & Slick for BOS just cuz I like how those names sound together. And the song kinda rocks, too.

I'm stumped on the vinyl so far tho--anyone else heard any clicks or pops?


I always wanna call 'em Phantom Slicker & Rock.  I haven't detected vinyl either -- we need the vinyl detector van from the Ministry of Housinge...


I thought I heard a pop in the middle of Men Without Shame, and DM just told me via IM that the PR&S tune was the second of three vinyl tunes today. So we've got one more to spot yet.
Title: Thursday July 28--it's....1985
Post by: Davefish on July 28, 2005, 10:33:03 AM
Hooters.  Bleah.  Rather see 'em than hear 'em.
Title: Thursday July 28--it's....1985
Post by: RGMike on July 28, 2005, 10:33:45 AM
BOS Hooters. Their stuff (which I considered just OK at the time) sounds good to me lately.
Title: Thursday July 28--it's....1985
Post by: Lightnin' Rod on July 28, 2005, 10:35:52 AM
What the hell, BOS Tears For Fears.
Title: Thursday July 28--it's....1985
Post by: RGMike on July 28, 2005, 10:36:06 AM
TFF, "Everyjockey Ought to Rue Katrinas"
Title: Thursday July 28--it's....1985
Post by: Beej on July 28, 2005, 10:36:59 AM
HM Tears Fer Fears

Heh-heh. You said "hooters"....
Title: Thursday July 28--it's....1985
Post by: Davefish on July 28, 2005, 10:41:01 AM
BOS for REM.  I haven't enjoyed a single one of the other songs.

EDIT.  I take it back.  "This Is Not America" was cool.
Title: Thursday July 28--it's....1985
Post by: RGMike on July 28, 2005, 10:41:58 AM
this has been quite the MTV-fest, Now Mr Mr Mr.

Prince's "Pop Life" or "anotherloverholeinyourhead" would've really raised the stakes today.
Title: Thursday July 28--it's....1985
Post by: RGMike on July 28, 2005, 10:46:03 AM
Dave owes us a good Friday: we're due for either '69 or '67. Fingers crossed!
Title: Thursday July 28--it's....1985
Post by: RGMike on July 28, 2005, 11:11:32 AM
Bonus track: the artist (sez Annalisa) was 2/4 of 10cc. Well -- DUH -- it's the only Katrina (besides "Katrina")  that Dave didn't play today: "Cry" by Godley & Creme.

Cremeliness is next to Godleyness, I always say.
Title: the list
Post by: ggould on July 28, 2005, 11:30:22 AM
we were at the Y, heard "This Is Not America" on the way in. probably woulda been my BOS

7/28/05 - Thursday!!!  Ten great tunes from...1985!!!

REM - Can't Get There From Here
Scritti Politti - Perfect Way
Firm - Satisfaction Guaranteed
David Bowie/Pat Metheny - This is Not America (B-O-S!!)
Philip Bailey/Phil Collins - Easy Lover (vinyl)
Bryan Adams - Heaven
Phantom, Rocker & Slick - Men Without Shame (vinyl)
Hooters - Day By Day
Tears for Fears - Everybody Wants to Rule the World
Mr. Mister -  Broken Wings
BONUS TRACK:  Godley & Creme - Cry
Title: Re: the list
Post by: Gaz at da Voice on July 28, 2005, 12:22:48 PM
Quote from: "ggould"
we were at the Y, heard "This Is Not America" on the way in. probably woulda been my BOS

7/28/05 - Thursday!!!  Ten great tunes from...1985!!!

REM - Can't Get There From Here
Scritti Politti - Perfect Way
Firm - Satisfaction Guaranteed
David Bowie/Pat Metheny - This is Not America (B-O-S!!)
Philip Bailey/Phil Collins - Easy Lover (vinyl)
Bryan Adams - Heaven
Phantom, Rocker & Slick - Men Without Shame (vinyl)
Hooters - Day By Day
Tears for Fears - Everybody Wants to Rule the World
Mr. Mister -  Broken Wings
BONUS TRACK:  Godley & Creme - Cry


Sorry, I've been busy this week -- picked up several shifts at the Voice, plus a few writing projects (money!!) -- but had I been able to listen, I'd have co-BOS'ed TFF and Bowie + Metheny and HM'ed the Two Phils.  That song actually holds up really well for me.

Davefish - the Hooters line was a good one!   :D

And hey, I'll get to CG Soul Spectrum with y'all tomorrow, for the first time in over a month!

Gaz
Title: Re: the list
Post by: RGMike on July 28, 2005, 01:04:56 PM
Quote from: "Gaz at da Voice"
I'll get to CG Soul Spectrum with y'all tomorrow, for the first time in over a month!



Yay! It'll be you me & Ali most likely, as the princess is On the Road Again... goin' places that she's never been.
Title: Thursday July 28--it's....1985
Post by: Beej on July 28, 2005, 01:33:48 PM
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Cremeliness is next to Godleyness, I always say.

LOL! Oh, you.

Speaking of Godley & Creme. A blogster wrote a little about them today. There's some mp3s to enjoy as well...

http://cakeandpolka.blogspot.com/
Title: Thursday July 28--it's....1985
Post by: Gazoo on July 28, 2005, 10:49:49 PM
Y'all's a bunch a hatas.  This was a good set!
Title: Thursday July 28--it's....1985
Post by: RGMike on July 29, 2005, 07:06:36 AM
Quote from: "Gazoo"
Y'all's a bunch a hatas.  This was a good set!


wow... what's the opposite of "crankypants"? did ya'll get some lovin' at that concert? :wink:
Title: the opposite of crankypants
Post by: ggould on July 29, 2005, 08:26:04 AM
Quote from: "RGMike"
Quote from: "Gazoo"
Y'all's a bunch a hatas.  This was a good set!
wow... what's the opposite of "crankypants"? did ya'll get some lovin' at that concert? :wink:

I was thinkin' the same thing!
Title: Thursday July 28--it's....1985
Post by: mshray on July 29, 2005, 10:20:59 AM
You Guys!

What a collective crankypants you were yesterday!

First of all, Dave hadn't overplayed Scritti Politti since 2001, and that's a great track otherwise.  "Can't Get There From Here" is my favorite R.E.M. song & definitely not a Katrina.  "Satisfaction Guaranteed" is another personal fave & Dave hasn't played it for 5 years or so, so it gets at least a few points for that.  We all (including the Fogheads) agree that  Bowie/Matheny is tasty. Phil Collins was everwhere in 85/86, and frankly I'm with Joe that this is pretty good overproduced mid 80's power pop (not an oxymoron!).

Okay, I am in complete agreement that Bryan Adams sucks.

But you guys are really slipping, I mean SERIOUSLY slipping, if you didn't appreciate the segue from Mitterand et al being idicted for the Rainbow Warrior bombing into "Men Without Shame".  Dave gets a 25 pt bonus for that alone, plus Phantom, Rocker & Slick is such a cool name & the guitars on this RULE!!!

Hooters, Tears For Fears & Mr Mister are very good place/time markers for'85 & round out the set very effectively (IMHO).

Bottom line, I thought this was the best '85 set in years & don't know what's wrong with y'alls.

p.s. From the road I phoned in my BOS vote for the Firm, gave Dave kudos for the segue, and I spotted the vinyl on the Phil Bailey track.
Title: Thursday July 28--it's....1985
Post by: RGMike on July 29, 2005, 10:35:40 AM
Quote from: "mshray"
You Guys!

What a collective crankypants you were yesterday!

First of all, Dave hadn't overplayed Scritti Politti since 2001, and that's a great track otherwise.  "Can't Get There From Here" is my favorite R.E.M. song & definitely not a Katrina.  "Satisfaction Guaranteed" is another personal fave & Dave hasn't played it for 5 years or so, so it gets at least a few points for that.  We all (including the Fogheads) agree that  Bowie/Matheny is tasty. Phil Collins was everwhere in 85/86, and frankly I'm with Joe that this is pretty good overproduced mid 80's power pop (not an oxymoron!).

Okay, I am in complete agreement that Bryan Adams sucks.

But you guys are really slipping, I mean SERIOUSLY slipping, if you didn't appreciate the segue from Mitterand et al being idicted for the Rainbow Warrior bombing into "Men Without Shame".  Dave gets a 25 pt bonus for that alone, plus Phantom, Rocker & Slick is such a cool name & the guitars on this RULE!!!

Hooters, Tears For Fears & Mr Mister are very good place/time markers for'85 & round out the set very effectively (IMHO).

Bottom line, I thought this was the best '85 set in years & don't know what's wrong with y'alls.

p.s. From the road I phoned in my BOS vote for the Firm, gave Dave kudos for the segue, and I spotted the vinyl on the Phil Bailey track.


"best '85 set in years"??? Stop. it wasn't BAD, exactly, but it certainly wasn't that good.  The mid-'80s are all of a piece to Dave and he has limited imagination when it comes to that period. In other words, just ONE song he's never played before (and there are many, starting with any non-Purple RainPrince song besides "Raspberry Beret") would've made us all give him a free pass.

I said nice things about Phil & Philip and the Hooters...
Title: Thursday July 28--it's....1985
Post by: mshray on July 29, 2005, 10:48:01 AM
Quote from: "RGMike"
["best '85 set in years"??? Stop. it wasn't BAD, exactly, but it certainly wasn't that good.  The mid-'80s are all of a piece to Dave and he has limited imagination when it comes to that period. In other words, just ONE song he's never played before (and there are many, starting with any non-Purple RainPrince song besides "Raspberry Beret") would've made us all give him a free pass.


So you're saying that unless Dave plays "Pop Life" or "Around The World In A Day" (which are the only songs that meet your criteria) it can't be a good 1985 set?

I think Dave has not played a 1985 set this good in a long time, but maybe he just happened to hit a whole bunch of tunes that I like relative to others (R.E.M., Firm, Hooters & TFF, and maybe even Philip Bailey qualify) that y'all don't get excited over.  Fine.  But can you think of any 1985 set that was demonstrably better than this one in the past couple years?

Until Dave breaks out "Let's Go All The Way" & "Be Near Me" this will have to do.
Title: Thursday July 28--it's....1985
Post by: RGMike on July 29, 2005, 11:00:08 AM
Quote from: "mshray"
Quote from: "RGMike"
["best '85 set in years"??? Stop. it wasn't BAD, exactly, but it certainly wasn't that good.  The mid-'80s are all of a piece to Dave and he has limited imagination when it comes to that period. In other words, just ONE song he's never played before (and there are many, starting with any non-Purple RainPrince song besides "Raspberry Beret") would've made us all give him a free pass.


So you're saying that unless Dave plays "Pop Life" or "Around The World In A Day" (which are the only songs that meet your criteria) it can't be a good 1985 set?


no, I said ANY song he's never played before. which is quite a long list. I'm not asking to have my socks knocked off, just asking Dave to deviate slightly from his usual '80s habits. Acknowledgement on his part that there was soul in the mid-'80s that didn't involve doing a duet with Phil Collins would be a great leap forward IMHO.  :wink:
Title: "Easy Lover"
Post by: Gazoo on July 30, 2005, 09:50:45 AM
So you're listening to the radio in 1975 and you hear the new Genesis song followed by the new Earth, Wind & Fire (I hope some stations were actually this eclectic).  Do you think to yourself, "hey, the drummer and the falsetto vocalist should work together, they'd write a Number One"?
Title: Re: "Easy Lover"
Post by: RGMike on July 30, 2005, 11:10:51 AM
Quote from: "Gazoo"
So you're listening to the radio in 1975 and you hear the new Genesis song followed by the new Earth, Wind & Fire (I hope some stations were actually this eclectic).  Do you think to yourself, "hey, the drummer and the falsetto vocalist should work together, they'd write a Number One"?


ROTFL!

Actually FM rock radio WAS that eclectic back then. Not only free-form "Progressive" stations but even the heavily playlisted AOR formats that were just springing up at the time.  All the talk on the NYRMB about the "trainwreck" segues on JACK reminded me that WPLJ (which was a tightly-playlisted AOR in '75) used to do segues like that all the time -- LedZep into John Denver into "Lady Marmalade" was not an uncommon thing.  Sadly, within a few years the consultants discovered that the core Album Rock audience of young white males was essentially rather racist and had no use for Stevie Wonder or EWF... and Progressive R&B began to disappear from AOR playlists.

Sometime when we're in the same room (or maybe on the phone) I'll have to give you the history of how WPLJ went from being the coolest free-form station on the planet to being the lamest AOR station in America.
Title: Thursday July 28--it's....1985
Post by: urth on July 30, 2005, 02:38:31 PM
Quote from: "RGMike"
Quote from: "mshray"

Bottom line, I thought this was the best '85 set in years & don't know what's wrong with y'alls.



"best '85 set in years"??? Stop. it wasn't BAD, exactly, but it certainly wasn't that good.  The mid-'80s are all of a piece to Dave and he has limited imagination when it comes to that period. In other words, just ONE song he's never played before (and there are many, starting with any non-Purple RainPrince song besides "Raspberry Beret") would've made us all give him a free pass.

I said nice things about Phil & Philip and the Hooters...


Warning: Big Geek Factor present in the following:

Not that it's a particularly crowded field, but I concur with Mike on this: to my ears, this was a typical 85 set, maybe a little better than average (and you're right about some particularly pithy segues) but the musical content I thought was pretty much by the book--some OK songs (Hooters, PR&S, Bowie & Metheny) but very little we haven't heard plenty of times before.

Rather, in the category of Darn Fine 1985 Set (aside: I can't quite hang with the "Best ever" tag since I confess to not being able to remember anywhere near all of them; I just know most of them seem pretty similar. But I digress...), I would submit this set from only two months ago, May 25 of this year:

5/25/05 - Wednesday!  A visit to...1985!!!
    1. Kinks - Do it Again
    2. REM - Can't Get There From Here
    3. Animotion - Obsession
    4. Bryan Ferry - Sensation
    5. Bruce Springsteen - Cover Me
    6. Huey Lewis & the News - The Power of Love (B-O-S!!!!)
    7. Tubes - Eyes
    8. Honeydrippers - Sea of Love
    9. Marillion - Lavender
      10. John Cougar Mellencamp - Minutes to Memories

I'm of the opinion that there is one bust-out (the Tubes) and at least three  infrequently-heard songs in that set (the Kinks, Marillion, and Honeydrippers), while several of the ones we have heard more frequently are nonetheless quite good (REM, Ferry, Springsteen and John Cougar Boyscoutcamp). Not to mention that your most-favored REM song appears in both. Yep, one full-on Katrina (Huey) as well, but I think there's enough meat in the rest of the set to offset that, easily. While I fully agree that one's judgement of a set is a highly subjective reaction, this one (the May set) certainly did it for me, to the point that it's the only 1985 set ever that I have felt deserving of being archived.

Btw, Geoff, nice, er, cat. I assume your sig pertains thereto?
Title: evil cat
Post by: ggould on July 30, 2005, 05:55:18 PM
Quote from: "urth"
Btw, Geoff, nice, er, cat. I assume your sig pertains thereto?

indeed!

PS, got them here:

http://www.mycathatesyou.com/