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Title: a Cinco de Mayo set on the Triple Nickel (5/5/05)
Post by: RGMike on May 05, 2005, 07:38:00 AM
So sez Dave -- suggestions being solicited.
Title: a Cinco de Mayo set on the Triple Nickel (5/5/05)
Post by: mshray on May 05, 2005, 08:37:36 AM
Today is also the 50th anniversary of Disneyland, fwiw.
Title: a Cinco de Mayo set on the Triple Nickel (5/5/05)
Post by: RGMike on May 05, 2005, 08:40:12 AM
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Today is also the 50th anniversary of Disneyland, fwiw.


Disneyland & me -- turning 50 in the same week.  I'll always know how old Walt's creation is.  Or maybe I'm one of Walt's creations too? (cue Twilight Zone theme...)
Title: a Cinco de Mayo set on the Triple Nickel (5/5/05)
Post by: Alicat on May 05, 2005, 10:00:21 AM
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Today is also the 50th anniversary of Disneyland, fwiw.


Disneyland & me -- turning 50 in the same week.  I'll always know how old Walt's creation is.  Or maybe I'm one of Walt's creations too? (cue Twilight Zone theme...)


Just got back from Disneyland. Missed the 50th by a week and a half. The Tower of Terror ride had a great Twilight Zone theme.
Title: a Cinco de Mayo set on the Triple Nickel (5/5/05)
Post by: urth on May 05, 2005, 10:02:02 AM
Santana is a certainty, and perhaps Malo. Wonder if we'll hear Livin La Vida Loca?
Title: a Cinco de Mayo set on the Triple Nickel (5/5/05)
Post by: mshray on May 05, 2005, 10:03:57 AM
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Santana is a certainty, and perhaps Malo. Wonder if we'll hear Livin La Vida Loca?


I wanna hear some Los Lonely Boys.  And (wishful thinking) some Kinky!
Title: a Cinco de Mayo set on the Triple Nickel (5/5/05)
Post by: urth on May 05, 2005, 10:05:24 AM
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Santana is a certainty, and perhaps Malo. Wonder if we'll hear Livin La Vida Loca?


I wanna hear some Los Lonely Boys.  And (wishful thinking) some Kinky!


Friedman?
Title: a Cinco de Mayo set on the Triple Nickel (5/5/05)
Post by: Gazoo on May 05, 2005, 10:05:53 AM
"Let the children have their way / Let the children play"

as requested by Michael Jackson
Title: a Cinco de Mayo set on the Triple Nickel (5/5/05)
Post by: RGMike on May 05, 2005, 10:10:13 AM
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Santana is a certainty, and perhaps Malo. Wonder if we'll hear Livin La Vida Loca?


I wanna hear some Los Lonely Boys.  And (wishful thinking) some Kinky!


Friedman?


everyone's favorite Tex-Mex Jewboy!

I'd add Joe "King" Carrasco, don't know how many west-coasters are familiar with him but he totally rules (I'd bet he shows up in a Peak 10@10 sooner or later).  His song "Caca de Vaca" (cow shit) was a turntable hit in NYC.
Title: a Cinco de Mayo set on the Triple Nickel (5/5/05)
Post by: Beej on May 05, 2005, 10:11:09 AM
Viva El Vez!
(too bad we won't hear him today)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/beej/el-vez.jpg)
Title: a Cinco de Mayo set on the Triple Nickel (5/5/05)
Post by: mshray on May 05, 2005, 10:12:04 AM
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Santana is a certainty, and perhaps Malo. Wonder if we'll hear Livin La Vida Loca?


I wanna hear some Los Lonely Boys.  And (wishful thinking) some Kinky!


Friedman?


Kinky are an interesting group from Monterrey Mexico*, they got some MTV airplay with a catchy tune called "Presidente", which I can play for y'all at my house.

*where I will be headed next Tuesday for the 2nd time in 9 months.  And as was the first case, the whole visit will be less than 18 hrs.
Title: a Cinco de Mayo set on the Triple Nickel (5/5/05)
Post by: RGMike on May 05, 2005, 10:17:00 AM
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Monterrey Mexico... where I will be headed next Tuesday for the 2nd time in 9 months.  And as was the first case, the whole visit will be less than 18 hrs.


stay away from the barbecued iguana...
Title: a Cinco de Mayo set on the Triple Nickel (5/5/05)
Post by: Alicat on May 05, 2005, 10:17:44 AM
I'm on the Mexican, whoa-oh, radioooo....
Just tune to 92.3 I still have that tuned in my car (was KSJO). Don't know how to get rid of it!
Title: a Cinco de Mayo set on the Triple Nickel (5/5/05)
Post by: urth on May 05, 2005, 10:19:51 AM
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Santana is a certainty, and perhaps Malo. Wonder if we'll hear Livin La Vida Loca?


I wanna hear some Los Lonely Boys.  And (wishful thinking) some Kinky!


Friedman?


everyone's favorite Tex-Mex Jewboy!



The Asshole from El Paso...

Just noticed, I'm nearing my 600th post. Whoop-te-do!
Title: a Cinco de Mayo set on the Triple Nickel (5/5/05)
Post by: mshray on May 05, 2005, 10:21:53 AM
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Monterrey Mexico... where I will be headed next Tuesday for the 2nd time in 9 months.  And as was the first case, the whole visit will be less than 18 hrs.


stay away from the barbecued iguana...


Second time this morning I heard that song, it was also the "80's at 8" track on Channel 104.9

I cranked it louder in my car than I can get away with here at work.
Title: a Cinco de Mayo set on the Triple Nickel (5/5/05)
Post by: urth on May 05, 2005, 10:23:50 AM
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Viva El Vez!
(too bad we won't hear him today)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/beej/el-vez.jpg)


Likewise for something from David Lee Roth's spanish version of Eat 'Em and Smile.
Title: a Cinco de Mayo set on the Triple Nickel (5/5/05)
Post by: Gazoo on May 05, 2005, 10:26:07 AM
I think what bothers me about War's "Cinco de Mayo" is that the refrain consists solely of the title phrase.  It's like writing a Christmas carol in which the refrain is just someone yelling, "Christmas! Christmas!" over and over.  Bleah.
Title: a Cinco de Mayo set on the Triple Nickel (5/5/05)
Post by: mshray on May 05, 2005, 10:28:05 AM
Too bad Dave is trying to kill two birds with one stone here.  He should have played the original Ritchie Valens & then something else from Los Lobos.
Title: a Cinco de Mayo set on the Triple Nickel (5/5/05)
Post by: Beej on May 05, 2005, 10:28:49 AM
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It's like writing a Christmas carol in which the refrain is just someone yelling, "Christmas! Christmas!" over and over.

See? That's why I hate McCartney's "Wonderful Christmastime".

OK. It's not really the sme thing- but I do like to remind everyone how much I hate McCartney's "Wonderful Christmastime".

Feliz Navidad!
Title: a Cinco de Mayo set on the Triple Nickel (5/5/05)
Post by: mshray on May 05, 2005, 10:29:55 AM
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It's like writing a Christmas carol in which the refrain is just someone yelling, "Christmas! Christmas!" over and over.

See? That's why I hate McCartney's "Wonderful Christmastime".

OK. It's not really the sme thing- but I do like to remind everyone how much I hate McCartney's "Wonderful Christmastime".

Feliz Navidad!


So what must you think of Jose Feliciano's "Feliz Navidad"?
Title: a Cinco de Mayo set on the Triple Nickel (5/5/05)
Post by: urth on May 05, 2005, 10:30:07 AM
Quote from: "mshray"
Too bad Dave is trying to kill two birds with one stone here.  He should have played the original Ritchie Valens & then something else from Los Lobos.


I was relieved he wasn't playing the Lobes version of La Bamba.
Title: a Cinco de Mayo set on the Triple Nickel (5/5/05)
Post by: Beej on May 05, 2005, 10:31:57 AM
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So what must you think of Jose Feliciano's "Feliz Navidad"?

The melody is better than the McCartney song- which has no melody. Just Paul spitting out phrases.
Title: a Cinco de Mayo set on the Triple Nickel (5/5/05)
Post by: RGMike on May 05, 2005, 10:32:26 AM
and the cover of "Alone Again Or" was by... ???

BOS for novelty alone (again or).
Title: a Cinco de Mayo set on the Triple Nickel (5/5/05)
Post by: urth on May 05, 2005, 10:32:31 AM
Now that was weird. Two white guys from Tucson covering a psychedelic band from LA, and it gets played in a set commemorating Cinco de Mayo. The arrangement certainly borrows from Latin music, but I'm just sayin'....
Title: a Cinco de Mayo set on the Triple Nickel (5/5/05)
Post by: urth on May 05, 2005, 10:33:02 AM
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and the cover of "Alone Again Or" was by... ???

BOS for novelty alone (again or).


Calexico. (See post above.)
Title: a Cinco de Mayo set on the Triple Nickel (5/5/05)
Post by: RGMike on May 05, 2005, 10:35:42 AM
"we don't want no water
and we don't need any Jews"

Guess we won't be hearing Kinky Friedman, then...
Title: a Cinco de Mayo set on the Triple Nickel (5/5/05)
Post by: Gazoo on May 05, 2005, 10:36:07 AM
Quote from: "urth"
Now that was weird. Two white guys from Tucson covering a psychedelic band from LA, and it gets played in a set commemorating Cinco de Mayo. The arrangement certainly borrows from Latin music, but I'm just sayin'....

Either Dave takes the latter half of the phrase "Calexico" literally here, or he's giving a pass to anything with mariachi horns (in which case he might as well close with "The Tide Is High" or Robbie Williams's "Me and My Monkey").
Title: a Cinco de Mayo set on the Triple Nickel (5/5/05)
Post by: Beej on May 05, 2005, 10:36:10 AM
So, this is the day the Mexicans drove the French out of Mexico or something, right?

Fuckin' French.
Title: a Cinco de Mayo set on the Triple Nickel (5/5/05)
Post by: mshray on May 05, 2005, 10:37:24 AM
Quote from: "urth"
Now that was weird. Two white guys from Tucson covering a psychedelic band from LA, and it gets played in a set commemorating Cinco de Mayo. The arrangement certainly borrows from Latin music, but I'm just sayin'....


But see, that's actually very appropriate for Cinco De Mayo.  I heard someone (who was clearly from Mexico) on KUFX explaining to Greg Kihn why we gringos celebrate 5/5 instead of Mexican independence day which is 9/16.  Her theory:  we could never pronounce "Diez y Seis de Septiembre", so we just go with a different day altogether.

ETA: Sept 16 is a wild party day all over Mexico.  May 5 is only a big party in Veracruz.
Title: a Cinco de Mayo set on the Triple Nickel (5/5/05)
Post by: Gazoo on May 05, 2005, 10:37:48 AM
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So, this is the day the Mexicans drove the French out of Mexico or something, right?

Fuckin' French.

In fact, I was invited this week to a Cinco de Mayo party on Saturday, and the hosts specifically played up the "they beat the FRENCH! FUCK YEAH!" angle.  I was so repulsed by their attitude that I can't bring myself to attend even though friends of mine will be there.
Title: a Cinco de Mayo set on the Triple Nickel (5/5/05)
Post by: RGMike on May 05, 2005, 10:39:37 AM
Quote from: "Gazoo"
Quote from: "urth"
Now that was weird. Two white guys from Tucson covering a psychedelic band from LA, and it gets played in a set commemorating Cinco de Mayo. The arrangement certainly borrows from Latin music, but I'm just sayin'....

Either Dave takes the latter half of the phrase "Calexico" literally here, or he's giving a pass to anything with mariachi horns (in which case he might as well close with "The Tide Is High" or Robbie Williams's "Me and My Monkey").


or Johnny Cash, "Ring of Fire".
Title: a Cinco de Mayo set on the Triple Nickel (5/5/05)
Post by: Beej on May 05, 2005, 10:40:29 AM
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In fact, I was invited this week to a Cinco de Mayo party on Saturday, and the hosts specifically played up the "they beat the FRENCH! FUCK YEAH!" angle. I was so repulsed by their attitude that I can't bring myself to attend even though friends of mine will be there.

I was being flip. I love the French. They make killer fries.

c'est le vie!

ETA: Besides, how hard is it to beat the French. I mean, really.  :)
Title: a Cinco de Mayo set on the Triple Nickel (5/5/05)
Post by: urth on May 05, 2005, 10:42:16 AM
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Now that was weird. Two white guys from Tucson covering a psychedelic band from LA, and it gets played in a set commemorating Cinco de Mayo. The arrangement certainly borrows from Latin music, but I'm just sayin'....

Either Dave takes the latter half of the phrase "Calexico" literally here, or he's giving a pass to anything with mariachi horns (in which case he might as well close with "The Tide Is High" or Robbie Williams's "Me and My Monkey").


I guess if Concrete Blonde and Wall of Voodoo qualify, then Calexico gets a pass too.

Still wish we'd heard David Lee Roth...
Title: a Cinco de Mayo set on the Triple Nickel (5/5/05)
Post by: RGMike on May 05, 2005, 10:42:50 AM
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So, this is the day the Mexicans drove the French out of Mexico or something, right?

Fuckin' French.

In fact, I was invited this week to a Cinco de Mayo party on Saturday, and the hosts specifically played up the "they beat the FRENCH! FUCK YEAH!" angle.  I was so repulsed by their attitude that I can't bring myself to attend even though friends of mine will be there.


the only funny joke on American Dad, the cheap knockoff of Family Guy (which is itself a cheap, overrated Simpsons knockoff):

Wife: "How's your French Toast?"

Husband: "Smelly and ungrateful -- but this AMERICAN toast is delicious!"
Title: a Cinco de Mayo set on the Triple Nickel (5/5/05)
Post by: mshray on May 05, 2005, 10:47:01 AM
here's the  scoop on Cinco De Mayo:

 
 
The 5th of May is not Mexican Independence Day, but it should be!  And Cinco de Mayo is not an American holiday, but it should be.  Mexico declared its independence from mother Spain on midnight, the 15th of September, 1810.  And it took 11 years before the first Spanish soldiers were told and forced to leave Mexico.

So, why Cinco de Mayo?  And why should Americans savor this day as well?  Because 4,000 Mexican soldiers smashed the French and traitor Mexican army of 8,000 at Puebla, Mexico, 100 miles east of Mexico City on the morning of May 5, 1862.

The French had landed in Mexico (along with Spanish and English troops) five months earlier on the pretext of collecting Mexican debts from the newly elected government of democratic President (and Indian) Benito Juarez.  The English and Spanish quickly made deals and left.  The French, however, had different ideas.

Under Emperor Napoleon III, who detested the United States, the French came to stay.  They brought a Hapsburg prince with them to rule the new Mexican empire.  His name was Maximilian; his wife, Carolota.  Napoleon's French Army had not been defeated in 50 years, and it invaded Mexico with the finest modern equipment and with a newly reconstituted Foreign Legion.  The French were not afraid of anyone, especially since the United States was embroiled in its own Civil War.

The French Army left the port of Vera Cruz to attack Mexico City to the west, as the French assumed that the Mexicans would give up should their capital fall to the enemy -- as European countries traditionally did.

Under the command of Texas-born General Zaragosa, (and the cavalry under the command of Colonel Porfirio Diaz, later to be Mexico's president and dictator), the Mexicans awaited.  Brightly dressed French Dragoons led the enemy columns.  The Mexican Army was less stylish.

General Zaragosa ordered Colonel Diaz to take his cavalry, the best in the world, out to the French flanks.  In response, the French did a most stupid thing: they sent their cavalry off to chase Diaz and his men, who proceeded to butcher them.  The remaining French infantrymen charged the Mexican defenders through sloppy mud from a thunderstorm and through hundreds of head of stampeding cattle stirred up by Indians armed only with machetes.

When the battle was over, many French were killed or wounded and their cavalry was being chased by Diaz' superb horsemen miles away.  The Mexicans had won a great victory that kept Napoleon III from supplying the confederate rebels for another year, allowing the United States to build the greatest army the world had ever seen.  This grand army smashed the Confederates at Gettysburg just 14 months after the battle of Puebla, essentially ending the Civil War.

Union forces were then rushed to the Texas/Mexican border under General Phil Sheridan, who made sure that the Mexicans got all the weapons and ammunition they needed to expel the French.  American soldiers were discharged with their uniforms and rifles if they promised to join the Mexican Army to fight the French.  The American Legion of Honor marched in the Victory Parade in Mexico, City.

It might be a historical stretch to credit the survival of the United States to those brave 4,000 Mexicans who faced an army twice as large in 1862.  But who knows?

In gratitude, thousands of Mexicans crossed the border after Pearl Harbor to join the U.S. Armed Forces.  As recently as the Persian Gulf War, Mexicans flooded American consulates with phone calls, trying to join up and fight another war for America.

Mexicans, you see, never forget who their friends are, and neither do Americans.  That's why Cinco de Mayo is such a party -- A party that celebrates freedom and liberty.  There are two ideals which Mexicans and Americans have fought shoulder to shoulder to protect, ever since the 5th of May, 1862.  VIVA! el CINCO DE MAYO!!
Title: a Cinco de Mayo set on the Triple Nickel (5/5/05)
Post by: Beej on May 05, 2005, 10:59:57 AM
So, did I totally piss Gazoo off with my 'Fuckin French' comment or something?

I'm sorry if I did, Gazoo. I'll try to be more sensitive in the future.
Title: a Cinco de Mayo set on the Triple Nickel (5/5/05)
Post by: Gazoo on May 05, 2005, 11:02:30 AM
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Mexicans, you see, never forget who their friends are, and neither do Americans.

I was with you right up until this line.
Title: a Cinco de Mayo set on the Triple Nickel (5/5/05)
Post by: Beej on May 05, 2005, 11:05:39 AM
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Mexicans, you see, never forget who their friends are, and neither do Americans.

From "Lafayette, we are here!" to Freedom Fries: where did it go wrong?

(not exactly a rhetorical question but one perhaps best answered in another thread)
Title: a Cinco de Mayo set on the Triple Nickel (5/5/05)
Post by: Gazoo on May 05, 2005, 11:05:45 AM
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So, did I totally piss Gazoo off with my 'Fuckin French' comment or something?

I'm sorry if I did, Gazoo. I'll try to be more sensitive in the future.

No, not in the slightest, Beej.  I know where you're comin' from.  I just lose my sense of humor when I see people trot out that stuff sans irony, as happens all too often here.  American arrogance is fatiguing.
Title: a Cinco de Mayo set on the Triple Nickel (5/5/05)
Post by: Beej on May 05, 2005, 11:07:26 AM
Cool. Thanks, Gazoo. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't misrepresenting myself!
Title: a Cinco de Mayo set on the Triple Nickel (5/5/05)
Post by: mshray on May 05, 2005, 11:34:04 AM
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Mexicans, you see, never forget who their friends are, and neither do Americans.

I was with you right up until this line.


Me Too!

that really ought to say "Mexicans, you see, never forget who their friends are, and neither should Americans."
Title: the list
Post by: ggould on May 05, 2005, 01:16:48 PM
couldn't pick up too much from the posting, outside of Calexico, and some others:

5/05/05 - Jueves!  Hoy es....Cinco de Mayo!!!

Santana - Carnival/Let the Children Play
Los Lonely Boys - Seņorita
Concrete Blonde - Bajo La Lune Mexicana
Wall of Voodoo - Mexican Radio (Lo Mejor del Grupo!!)
Ozomatli - (Who Discovered) America
War - Cinco de Mayo
Los Lobos - C'Mon Let's Go
Calexico - Alone Again Or
Los Mocoso - Caliente
Jorge y Carlos - Luz, Amor Y Vida