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Title: 6 February 2008--it's 1978
Post by: urth on February 06, 2008, 09:59:46 AM
And PD Dave Benson is in the birthday club!

S&D&R&R!!!

paging my tailor, Simon.
Title: Re: 6 February 2008--it's 1978
Post by: John@10 on February 06, 2008, 10:00:56 AM
My first time at home and online during the show. Be gentle with me, folks - I'm a virgin at this!  ;)

//John
Title: Re: 6 February 2008--it's 1978
Post by: RGMike on February 06, 2008, 10:01:22 AM
And PD Dave Benson is in the birthday club!

S&D&R&R!!!

paging my tailor, Simon.

Instant BOS, and I'm surprised & delighted -- I was expecting '90s from Dave (Morey) today.
Title: Re: 6 February 2008--it's 1978
Post by: Wayback on February 06, 2008, 10:01:57 AM
1978 possibilities: Gerry Rafferty, Stones, Boston, Billy Joel, Bee Gees, Player, Ronstadt...
Title: Re: 6 February 2008--it's 1978
Post by: RGMike on February 06, 2008, 10:02:24 AM
BOS2 Zevon, strikin' it up.
Title: Re: 6 February 2008--it's 1978
Post by: RGMike on February 06, 2008, 10:04:12 AM
1978 possibilities: Gerry Rafferty, Stones, Boston, Billy Joel, Bee Gees, Player, Ronstadt...

I'd bet on all of those except Ronstadt -- she gets little love from Dave (in relation to chart success, at least) and anything from Linda would be a rarity and maybe even a bustout.
Title: Re: 6 February 2008--it's 1978
Post by: John@10 on February 06, 2008, 10:05:35 AM
BOS1 - Johnny!

My Zevon memory from this album:  I lived in LA when it came out, and KMET and KLOS were playing Werewolves like there was no tomorrow, and the novelty of the song created a bit of a personal backlash for me. At the same time, my normal listening station KPOL (later KZLA, later Country (good Gawd!)) was playing this fantastic song Tenderness on the Block, but always playing it in the middle of a set and nevfer saying who did the damned thing! It tormented me for weeks until I finally called the station and asked. Imagine my surprise.... He has become one of my favorite artists.

Title: Re: 6 February 2008--it's 1978
Post by: Wayback on February 06, 2008, 10:06:44 AM
My first time at home and online during the show. Be gentle with me, folks - I'm a virgin at this!  ;)

//John

Welcome John!  Now I'm not the newest...
Title: Re: 6 February 2008--it's 1978
Post by: urth on February 06, 2008, 10:08:20 AM
1978 possibilities: Gerry Rafferty, Stones, Boston, Billy Joel, Bee Gees, Player, Ronstadt...

I'd bet on all of those except Ronstadt -- she gets little love from Dave (in relation to chart success, at least) and anything from Linda would be a rarity and maybe even a bustout.

But I'm not gonna let it bother me...

I'd love to hear some Cheap Trick, and Steely Dan is always a good bet. And along with Boston, let's not forget that Foreigner and Kansas were all over the charts as well.
Title: Re: 6 February 2008--it's 1978
Post by: RGMike on February 06, 2008, 10:08:23 AM
Mmmm... Champagne jam. Great on toast with Peanut Butter.
Title: Re: 6 February 2008--it's 1978
Post by: Wayback on February 06, 2008, 10:12:19 AM
1978 possibilities: Gerry Rafferty, Stones, Boston, Billy Joel, Bee Gees, Player, Ronstadt...

I'd bet on all of those except Ronstadt -- she gets little love from Dave (in relation to chart success, at least) and anything from Linda would be a rarity and maybe even a bustout.

But I'm not gonna let it bother me...

I'd love to hear some Cheap Trick, and Steely Dan is always a good bet. And along with Boston, let's not forget that Foreigner and Kansas were all over the charts as well.
1978=some ELO from Dave, maybe Bruce, Seger, Petty, some disco too.  Hey, he doesn't play VH often, right?
Title: Re: 6 February 2008--it's 1978
Post by: urth on February 06, 2008, 10:15:18 AM
Lengthy Moscone/Milk murder clips, into Journey's Lights--another pointed segue.
Title: Re: 6 February 2008--it's 1978
Post by: RGMike on February 06, 2008, 10:18:14 AM
1978 possibilities: Gerry Rafferty, Stones, Boston, Billy Joel, Bee Gees, Player, Ronstadt...

I'd bet on all of those except Ronstadt -- she gets little love from Dave (in relation to chart success, at least) and anything from Linda would be a rarity and maybe even a bustout.

But I'm not gonna let it bother me...

I'd love to hear some Cheap Trick, and Steely Dan is always a good bet. And along with Boston, let's not forget that Foreigner and Kansas were all over the charts as well.
1978=some ELO from Dave, maybe Bruce, Seger, Petty, some disco too.  Hey, he doesn't play VH often, right?

actually, VH get a fair share of play. But Flash & the pan are waaaay frequent fliers with this one.
Title: Re: 6 February 2008--it's 1978
Post by: urth on February 06, 2008, 10:19:06 AM
This Flash & the Pan is nearing Katrina status (I'm sure some would say it's already there) but compared to the bombast of VH or Journey I'm not minding it at all.

Hey! Hey! Hey, St. Peter!
Title: Re: 6 February 2008--it's 1978
Post by: Wayback on February 06, 2008, 10:20:09 AM
Today's avatar-- poster for Bruce at San Jose Center 6/29/78 and Berkeley Community Theatre, June 30 and July 1, 1978.
Title: Re: 6 February 2008--it's 1978
Post by: urth on February 06, 2008, 10:22:16 AM
Today's avatar-- poster for Bruce at San Jose Center 6/29/78 and Berkeley Community Theatre, June 30 and July 1, 1978.

Wow, I didn't realize he'd come thru here on the Darkness tour prior to the fabled Winterland shows--you never hear about these. But that shot is def. from the Darkness era.
Title: Re: 6 February 2008--it's 1978
Post by: RGMike on February 06, 2008, 10:23:37 AM
This Flash & the Pan is nearing Katrina status (I'm sure some would say it's already there) but compared to the bombast of VH or Journey I'm not minding it at all.

Hey! Hey! Hey, St. Peter!

New Wave shouting (OI! OI! OI!) is just alternative bombast ;)

BOS3 Eruption's cover of Ann Peebles. Eurodisco at its most delightful.
Title: Re: 6 February 2008--it's 1978
Post by: urth on February 06, 2008, 10:25:00 AM
Just had another flash--I'd love to hear some live Little Feat, circa Waiting For Columbus. Tripe Face Boogie would rule!
Title: Re: 6 February 2008--it's 1978
Post by: RGMike on February 06, 2008, 10:26:42 AM
BOS4 and proxy of shray: "Home & Dry".
Title: Re: 6 February 2008--it's 1978
Post by: urth on February 06, 2008, 10:26:58 AM
Here's my BOS (and chalk one more for Wayback)--we're Home and Dry.
Title: Re: 6 February 2008--it's 1978
Post by: mshray on February 06, 2008, 10:27:05 AM
1978 possibilities: Gerry Rafferty, Stones, Boston, Billy Joel, Bee Gees, Player, Ronstadt...

BOS Home And Dry, good call Wayback.
Title: Re: 6 February 2008--it's 1978
Post by: mshray on February 06, 2008, 10:28:53 AM
This Flash & the Pan is nearing Katrina status (I'm sure some would say it's already there) but compared to the bombast of VH or Journey I'm not minding it at all.

Hey! Hey! Hey, St. Peter!

Actually Dave plays it in 1979 more often than not, so it seems worse than it is.
Title: Re: 6 February 2008--it's 1978
Post by: John@10 on February 06, 2008, 10:30:37 AM
The Rafferty album was so interesting when it first came out, but I remember after a few plays it had such a sameness about it track to track that it became a bit of a burden to listen to.

Title: Re: 6 February 2008--it's 1978
Post by: Wayback on February 06, 2008, 10:31:39 AM
1978 possibilities: Gerry Rafferty, Stones, Boston, Billy Joel, Bee Gees, Player, Ronstadt...

I'd bet on all of those except Ronstadt -- she gets little love from Dave (in relation to chart success, at least) and anything from Linda would be a rarity and maybe even a bustout.

But I'm not gonna let it bother me...

I'd love to hear some Cheap Trick, and Steely Dan is always a good bet. And along with Boston, let's not forget that Foreigner and Kansas were all over the charts as well.
We're in Kansas!
Title: Re: 6 February 2008--it's 1978
Post by: RGMike on February 06, 2008, 10:31:47 AM
Aaaack! WOS Kansas! DUUUDE! It's bad prog rock!
Title: Re: 6 February 2008--it's 1978
Post by: mshray on February 06, 2008, 10:32:06 AM
The Rafferty album was so interesting when it first came out, but I remember after a few plays it had such a sameness about it track to track that it became a bit of a burden to listen to.



different strokes I guess.  I loved every track then and still do.  Really wish Rafferty had more career outpout.
Title: Re: 6 February 2008--it's 1978
Post by: mshray on February 06, 2008, 10:33:27 AM
Aaaack! WOS Kansas! DUUUDE! It's bad prog rock!

This was a 'through the wall' track for me, but it was a painful experience inflicted on me by my younger brother, not a learning experience from an older sibling.
Title: Re: 6 February 2008--it's 1978
Post by: RGMike on February 06, 2008, 10:34:08 AM
The Rafferty album was so interesting when it first came out, but I remember after a few plays it had such a sameness about it track to track that it became a bit of a burden to listen to.



different strokes I guess.  I loved every track then and still do.  Really wish Rafferty had more career outpout.

"outpout" -- that's what Giselle Buenchen did Sunday night after her boyfriend lost.
Title: Re: 6 February 2008--it's 1978
Post by: Wayback on February 06, 2008, 10:34:27 AM
The Rafferty album was so interesting when it first came out, but I remember after a few plays it had such a sameness about it track to track that it became a bit of a burden to listen to.


I still have that LP. Now that you mention it, think I'll give that vinyl a spin later today.
Title: Re: 6 February 2008--it's 1978
Post by: urth on February 06, 2008, 10:34:48 AM
Aaaack! WOS Kansas! DUUUDE! It's bad prog rock!

It's kind of watered down prog for the mass market, imo (which I guess makes it bad, so your point is well taken). It's still a bit of a leap to Peter Gabriel singing about Giant Hogweeds or Jon Anderson crooning the Revealing Science of God.
Title: Re: 6 February 2008--it's 1978
Post by: RGMike on February 06, 2008, 10:34:51 AM
Aaaack! WOS Kansas! DUUUDE! It's bad prog rock!

This was a 'through the wall' track for me, but it was a painful experience inflicted on me by my younger brother, not a learning experience from an older sibling.

well, let's hope we don't hear it again Friday!
Title: Re: 6 February 2008--it's 1978
Post by: RGMike on February 06, 2008, 10:35:41 AM
BOS5 Hot Chocolate. Almost every one's been a winner today.
Title: Re: 6 February 2008--it's 1978
Post by: Wayback on February 06, 2008, 10:35:55 AM
Every 1's A Weiner
Title: Re: 6 February 2008--it's 1978
Post by: mshray on February 06, 2008, 10:36:47 AM
BOS5 Hot Chocolate. Almost every one's been a winner today.

good song for a post-election Wednesday.
Title: Re: 6 February 2008--it's 1978
Post by: RGMike on February 06, 2008, 10:38:23 AM
BOS5 Hot Chocolate. Almost every one's been a winner today.

good song for a post-election Wednesday.

Every one's a Spinner, baby.
Title: Re: 6 February 2008--it's 1978
Post by: John@10 on February 06, 2008, 10:40:01 AM
Aaaack! WOS Kansas! DUUUDE! It's bad prog rock!

It's kind of watered down prog for the mass market, imo (which I guess makes it bad, so your point is well taken). It's still a bit of a leap to Peter Gabriel singing about Giant Hogweeds or Jon Anderson crooning the Revealing Science of God.

Yeah, it's a bit watered down, but it was very different and accessible at the same time back then. They had a great couple of albums there, as were Foreigner's first two albums. Different feels compared to so much of what else was out there.

(I really liked Foreigner until they gave the three guys the boot. Anyone else buy the Spys album? One great song on there - nice and bitter!)

//John
Title: Re: 6 February 2008--it's 1978
Post by: John@10 on February 06, 2008, 10:41:18 AM
The Rafferty album was so interesting when it first came out, but I remember after a few plays it had such a sameness about it track to track that it became a bit of a burden to listen to.


I still have that LP. Now that you mention it, think I'll give that vinyl a spin later today.

I bought one of those USB turntables last month to start converting some of my old viinyl collection. Maybe I'll dig this one out first and give it another chance. It has been a few years.... :)

//John
Title: Re: 6 February 2008--it's 1978
Post by: Wayback on February 06, 2008, 10:53:32 AM
The Rafferty album was so interesting when it first came out, but I remember after a few plays it had such a sameness about it track to track that it became a bit of a burden to listen to.


I still have that LP. Now that you mention it, think I'll give that vinyl a spin later today.

I bought one of those USB turntables last month to start converting some of my old viinyl collection. Maybe I'll dig this one out first and give it another chance. It has been a few years.... :)

//John

I'd like to put my vinyl & cassettes onto CD.  Anyone have any recommendations?
Title: Re: 6 February 2008--it's 1978
Post by: John@10 on February 06, 2008, 11:03:24 AM
The Rafferty album was so interesting when it first came out, but I remember after a few plays it had such a sameness about it track to track that it became a bit of a burden to listen to.


I still have that LP. Now that you mention it, think I'll give that vinyl a spin later today.

I bought one of those USB turntables last month to start converting some of my old viinyl collection. Maybe I'll dig this one out first and give it another chance. It has been a few years.... :)

//John

I'd like to put my vinyl & cassettes onto CD.  Anyone have any recommendations?

That's what I'm about to try. I'm going to pull them in to both burn them to CD and just convert them to MP3. I've got a server that has my whole CD collection in iTunes in Lossless for playback through the stereo, and that's the same quality I'm hoping to capture them now. I once bought a gadget from Ram Electrronics to pull stuff off a turntable and turn them into something digital, but it also required playback through the stereo at the same time, and that was going to be more coordination than I was willing to put in. My Denon turntable is off in a corner instead of in the entertainment center, so it wasn't going to work out for me logistically anyway.

There are USB turntables, and there are some gizmos (10cc reference?) out there that burn straight from vinyl to CD. If you chose the latter, I think you'd still be wanting to pull the CD in and post-process it to get rid of the pops and such, and then push it back to CD again. Just another step. I don't think any of this is going to be drop dead simple.

Plus - anyone got a Nitty Griitty Dirt Machine? That's another thing I'm starting to look at. I've a 1,000 albums in there to ponder, and I know they need some real care and cleaning.

//John
Title: Re: 6 February 2008--it's 1978
Post by: RGMike on February 06, 2008, 11:15:41 AM
OMG! Bonus, "Adam Raised a Cain". If Dave has played this more than once I'd be stunned.
Title: Re: 6 February 2008--it's 1978
Post by: urth on February 06, 2008, 11:25:25 AM
OMG! Bonus, "Adam Raised a Cain". If Dave has played this more than once I'd be stunned.

I'd have sworn I recalled hearing it once, but it's not in the shraytabase. Candy's Room is by far the most frequent track off of Darkness, with Badlands running second. Surprisingly, Prove It All Night is only in there once.
Title: Re: 6 February 2008--it's 1978
Post by: Gazoo on February 06, 2008, 01:01:05 PM
Today's avatar-- poster for Bruce at San Jose Center 6/29/78 and Berkeley Community Theatre, June 30 and July 1, 1978.

*swoon*

(Missed the Reagan pic, alas.)
Title: Re: 6 February 2008--it's 1978
Post by: RGMike on February 06, 2008, 01:19:02 PM
02/06/2008 - Wednesday! Good stuff from...1978!!
 
1.  Ian Dury & the Blockheads - Sex & Drugs & Rock & Roll   
2.  Warren Zevon - Johnny Strikes Up the Band (BEST OF SET!!)   
3.  A.R.S. - Champagne Jam   
4.  Van Halen - Runnin' With the Devil   
5.  Journey - Lights   
6.  Flash & the Pan - Hey St. Peter   
7.  Eruption - I Can't Stand the Rain   
8.  Gerry Rafferty - Home & Dry   
9.  Kansas - Portrait (He Knew)   
10.  Hot Chocolate - Every One's a Winner   
 
BONUS TRACK:  Bruce Springsteen - Adam Raised a Caine

*** Note the misspelling of "Cain" as "Caine" -- someone at KFOG has Mutiny on their mind, perhaps?
 
 
 
Title: Re: 6 February 2008--it's 1978
Post by: urth on February 06, 2008, 01:40:18 PM
02/06/2008 - Wednesday! Good stuff from...1978!!
 
1.  Ian Dury & the Blockheads - Sex & Drugs & Rock & Roll   
2.  Warren Zevon - Johnny Strikes Up the Band (BEST OF SET!!)   
3.  A.R.S. - Champagne Jam   
4.  Van Halen - Runnin' With the Devil   
5.  Journey - Lights   
6.  Flash & the Pan - Hey St. Peter   
7.  Eruption - I Can't Stand the Rain   
8.  Gerry Rafferty - Home & Dry   
9.  Kansas - Portrait (He Knew)   
10.  Hot Chocolate - Every One's a Winner   
 
BONUS TRACK:  Bruce Springsteen - Adam Raised a Caine

*** Note the misspelling of "Cain" as "Caine" -- someone at KFOG has Mutiny on their mind, perhaps?
 

Also the misspelling of 1 in the Hot Chocolate tune, iirc.
Title: Re: 6 February 2008--it's 1978
Post by: mshray on February 06, 2008, 02:17:59 PM
I've a 1,000 albums in there to ponder.

//John


John, you're my hero.  If you ever need any help with the pondering, let me know!
Title: Re: 6 February 2008--it's 1978
Post by: RGMike on February 06, 2008, 03:10:45 PM
BTW, I noticed our 10@10 Video Clip guy hasn't posted any clips in over a week...
Title: Re: 6 February 2008--it's 1978
Post by: urth on February 06, 2008, 03:25:24 PM
The Rafferty album was so interesting when it first came out, but I remember after a few plays it had such a sameness about it track to track that it became a bit of a burden to listen to.


I still have that LP. Now that you mention it, think I'll give that vinyl a spin later today.

I bought one of those USB turntables last month to start converting some of my old viinyl collection. Maybe I'll dig this one out first and give it another chance. It has been a few years.... :)

//John

I'd like to put my vinyl & cassettes onto CD.  Anyone have any recommendations?

That's what I'm about to try. I'm going to pull them in to both burn them to CD and just convert them to MP3. I've got a server that has my whole CD collection in iTunes in Lossless for playback through the stereo, and that's the same quality I'm hoping to capture them now. I once bought a gadget from Ram Electrronics to pull stuff off a turntable and turn them into something digital, but it also required playback through the stereo at the same time, and that was going to be more coordination than I was willing to put in. My Denon turntable is off in a corner instead of in the entertainment center, so it wasn't going to work out for me logistically anyway.

There are USB turntables, and there are some gizmos (10cc reference?) out there that burn straight from vinyl to CD. If you chose the latter, I think you'd still be wanting to pull the CD in and post-process it to get rid of the pops and such, and then push it back to CD again. Just another step. I don't think any of this is going to be drop dead simple.

Plus - anyone got a Nitty Griitty Dirt Machine? That's another thing I'm starting to look at. I've a 1,000 albums in there to ponder, and I know they need some real care and cleaning.

//John


I started doing something like this a few years ago by plugging my cassette player into the microphone input on my sound card and using some software called Goldwave to record and remove some of the hiss etc. It worked pretty well, but it was tedious dividing the captured file into smaller files for each track. However, these newer turntables may have eased that process somewhat.

We reviewed one of these USB turntables a few weeks ago--an Ion I think--but it wasn't given raves.  (I work at CNET, so I see reviews of all kinds of gadgets come by my desk.) Which one did you get and what do you think of it?
Title: Re: 6 February 2008--it's 1978
Post by: ggould on February 06, 2008, 03:31:16 PM
It's kind of watered down prog for the mass market
pretty much hits the nail on the head for me! 
Title: Re: 6 February 2008--it's 1978
Post by: ggould on February 06, 2008, 04:05:40 PM
The Rafferty album was so interesting when it first came out, but I remember after a few plays it had such a sameness about it track to track that it became a bit of a burden to listen to.
I still have that LP. Now that you mention it, think I'll give that vinyl a spin later today.
I bought one of those USB turntables last month to start converting some of my old viinyl collection. Maybe I'll dig this one out first and give it another chance. It has been a few years.... :)

//John
My old Phillips turntable has pretty much given up the ghost.  Are these new USB turntables fine for just playing records through the stereo as well?
Title: Re: 6 February 2008--it's 1978
Post by: John@10 on February 06, 2008, 11:34:23 PM

That's what I'm about to try. I'm going to pull them in to both burn them to CD and just convert them to MP3. I've got a server that has my whole CD collection in iTunes in Lossless for playback through the stereo, and that's the same quality I'm hoping to capture them now. I once bought a gadget from Ram Electrronics to pull stuff off a turntable and turn them into something digital, but it also required playback through the stereo at the same time, and that was going to be more coordination than I was willing to put in. My Denon turntable is off in a corner instead of in the entertainment center, so it wasn't going to work out for me logistically anyway.

There are USB turntables, and there are some gizmos (10cc reference?) out there that burn straight from vinyl to CD. If you chose the latter, I think you'd still be wanting to pull the CD in and post-process it to get rid of the pops and such, and then push it back to CD again. Just another step. I don't think any of this is going to be drop dead simple.

Plus - anyone got a Nitty Griitty Dirt Machine? That's another thing I'm starting to look at. I've a 1,000 albums in there to ponder, and I know they need some real care and cleaning.

//John


I started doing something like this a few years ago by plugging my cassette player into the microphone input on my sound card and using some software called Goldwave to record and remove some of the hiss etc. It worked pretty well, but it was tedious dividing the captured file into smaller files for each track. However, these newer turntables may have eased that process somewhat.

We reviewed one of these USB turntables a few weeks ago--an Ion I think--but it wasn't given raves.  (I work at CNET, so I see reviews of all kinds of gadgets come by my desk.) Which one did you get and what do you think of it?

I just haven't even pulled it out of the box to try it out. Life is too damned busy! I got the Ion. There's a part of me that would love everything to come out pristine, but the truth I'm not near the audiophile I was years ago, and the high volume remastering of albums on CD has gotten so unbearable that I think the thing can get away with an adequate job and I'd be happy.

I'll try to remember to try the thing out. When I do, I'll try to remember to post some impressions here. (No, I'm not going to compete with Frank TV. There's a set of commercials that became Katrinas long before the Bosox completed their sweep.)

//John