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Title: 24 Aug 2006: 1971!
Post by: RGMike on August 24, 2006, 10:04:32 AM
Macca takes his lucky break and...
Title: 24 Aug 2006: 1971!
Post by: urth on August 24, 2006, 10:07:13 AM
BOS1 Bowie, Oh You Pretty Things!! FAB!!
Title: 24 Aug 2006: 1971!
Post by: Davefish on August 24, 2006, 10:08:17 AM
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BOS1 Bowie, Oh You Pretty Things!! FAB!!

BOS fer sure, just on rarity value alone.
Title: 24 Aug 2006: 1971!
Post by: RGMike on August 24, 2006, 10:08:37 AM
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BOS1 Bowie, Oh You Pretty Things!! FAB!!


Well, y'know, it was always rumored that Bowie was a Homo (Superior).
Title: 24 Aug 2006: 1971!
Post by: mshray on August 24, 2006, 10:09:37 AM
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BOS1 Bowie, Oh You Pretty Things!! FAB!!


Well, y'know, it was always rumored that Bowie was a Homo (Superior).


Didn't Bianca famously start that rumor?
Title: 24 Aug 2006: 1971!
Post by: RGMike on August 24, 2006, 10:10:25 AM
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BOS1 Bowie, Oh You Pretty Things!! FAB!!

BOS fer sure, just on rarity value alone.


[pedant]actually, Dave plays this relatively often[/pedant]
Title: 24 Aug 2006: 1971!
Post by: RGMike on August 24, 2006, 10:14:11 AM
BOS2 John Kongas, "He's Gonna Step On You", a great T-Rex knockoff.
Title: 24 Aug 2006: 1971!
Post by: Davefish on August 24, 2006, 10:14:30 AM
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BOS1 Bowie, Oh You Pretty Things!! FAB!!

BOS fer sure, just on rarity value alone.


[pedant]actually, Dave plays this relatively often[/pedant]

I figured that would generate some controversy.  How about the rarity value of John Kongos?  I'm always surprised by the rotten recording quality on his songs.

BOS2 for the James Gang.
Title: 24 Aug 2006: 1971!
Post by: RGMike on August 24, 2006, 10:19:21 AM
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BOS1 Bowie, Oh You Pretty Things!! FAB!!

BOS fer sure, just on rarity value alone.


[pedant]actually, Dave plays this relatively often[/pedant]

I figured that would generate some controversy.  How about the rarity value of John Kongos?  I'm always surprised by the rotten recording quality on his songs.

BOS2 for the James Gang.


Kongos is also a Morey fave, tho' it's been a while since he's played it, iirc.
Title: 24 Aug 2006: 1971!
Post by: Davefish on August 24, 2006, 10:22:52 AM
Chicago rocks!  I like this one, though I don't even know it's name-o.
Title: 24 Aug 2006: 1971!
Post by: RGMike on August 24, 2006, 10:24:47 AM
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Chicago rocks!  I like this one, though I don't even know it's name-o.


"Lowdown"

OMG! Pham Report!!!!
Title: 24 Aug 2006: 1971!
Post by: urth on August 24, 2006, 10:24:50 AM
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Chicago rocks!  I like this one, though I don't even know it's name-o.


Another band that can justifiably have "...when they were good" appended to their name. This song (which I can't recall the name of either) is def. in that category.
Title: 24 Aug 2006: 1971!
Post by: mshray on August 24, 2006, 10:25:29 AM
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BOS1 Bowie, Oh You Pretty Things!! FAB!!

BOS fer sure, just on rarity value alone.


[pedant]actually, Dave plays this relatively often[/pedant]

I figured that would generate some controversy.  How about the rarity value of John Kongos?  I'm always surprised by the rotten recording quality on his songs.

BOS2 for the James Gang.


Kongos is also a Morey fave, tho' it's been a while since he's played it, iirc.


for the record, he played it exactly two years ago & once earlier that year as well.

BOS Pharm Chem!!!!

Green vegetable matter, dontcha know.
Title: 24 Aug 2006: 1971!
Post by: RGMike on August 24, 2006, 10:26:31 AM
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BOS Pharm Chem!!!!

Green vegetable matter, dontcha know.


Did you request this? I remember you mentioning it last week.
Title: 24 Aug 2006: 1971!
Post by: mshray on August 24, 2006, 10:28:05 AM
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BOS Pharm Chem!!!!

Green vegetable matter, dontcha know.


I have that exact report on an Urthwerm special 1971 disc form several years ago, but on that day Dave cut it short before the bit about the USS Enterprise.  Fascinating stuff.
Title: 24 Aug 2006: 1971!
Post by: mshray on August 24, 2006, 10:28:35 AM
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BOS Pharm Chem!!!!

Green vegetable matter, dontcha know.


Did you request this? I remember you mentioning it last week.


Think Dave was lurking again?
Title: 24 Aug 2006: 1971!
Post by: mshray on August 24, 2006, 10:30:48 AM
Another perfect song to suit my mood vis-a-vis my job, "This Song Is Over".

Can't wait for the day that I can say "it's all behind me".
Title: 24 Aug 2006: 1971!
Post by: RGMike on August 24, 2006, 10:31:03 AM
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BOS Pharm Chem!!!!

Green vegetable matter, dontcha know.


Did you request this? I remember you mentioning it last week.


Think Dave was lurking again?


It's a pretty amazing coincidence, considering he hasn't played that in several years at least.
Title: 24 Aug 2006: 1971!
Post by: urth on August 24, 2006, 10:34:01 AM
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BOS Pharm Chem!!!!

Green vegetable matter, dontcha know.


Did you request this? I remember you mentioning it last week.


Was that a longer version of the Pharm Chem report than what we've heard in the past? I don't recall the part about heroin and the USS Enterprise. Could just be me.
Title: 24 Aug 2006: 1971!
Post by: urth on August 24, 2006, 10:36:56 AM
Quote from: "mshray"
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BOS Pharm Chem!!!!

Green vegetable matter, dontcha know.


I have that exact report on an Urthwerm special 1971 disc form several years ago, but on that day Dave cut it short before the bit about the USS Enterprise.  Fascinating stuff.


Guess I should read back in the thread--thanks for confirming my spotty memory.
Title: 24 Aug 2006: 1971!
Post by: Davefish on August 24, 2006, 10:37:14 AM
Oh, dear.  Timothy.
Title: 24 Aug 2006: 1971!
Post by: RGMike on August 24, 2006, 10:37:17 AM
well, here's Spot-the-Vinyl, whether it counts as an actual song or not

OMG!!! "Timothy"!!! Suddenly I'm feeling a bit peckish...
Title: 24 Aug 2006: 1971!
Post by: mshray on August 24, 2006, 10:37:54 AM
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BOS Pharm Chem!!!!

Green vegetable matter, dontcha know.


Did you request this? I remember you mentioning it last week.


Was that a longer version of the Pharm Chem report than what we've heard in the past? I don't recall the part about heroin and the USS Enterprise. Could just be me.


See above, as I was mentioning to you earlier off-line, this was one of the sets that I played last week for my friend Steve-with-the-houseboat.

Holy F*ck! Dave is pulling all his rabbits out the hat today, Pharm Chem, Sounds of the City & now "Timothy".
Title: 24 Aug 2006: 1971!
Post by: urth on August 24, 2006, 10:37:58 AM
BOSwhatever Timothy!! Rupert Holmes at his very best!!
Title: 24 Aug 2006: 1971!
Post by: RGMike on August 24, 2006, 10:39:33 AM
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BOSwhatever Timothy!! Rupert Holmes at his very best!!


almost as good as his NY bank commercial.

"Union Dime... the Dime that starts with -- U!"
Title: 24 Aug 2006: 1971!
Post by: mshray on August 24, 2006, 10:42:48 AM
Do you know what I mean?  Have your eyes really seen?
Title: 24 Aug 2006: 1971!
Post by: urth on August 24, 2006, 10:43:56 AM
And a followup BOSwhatver+1 for Michael & his bros, Never Can Say Goodbye. Yep, another fine set today.

I'd have sworn the EJ was the #10 tune.
Title: 24 Aug 2006: 1971!
Post by: RGMike on August 24, 2006, 10:44:07 AM
BOS Michael & Bros. Clifton Davis's career peak (unless you really liked That's My mama)!
Title: 24 Aug 2006: 1971!
Post by: mshray on August 24, 2006, 10:45:10 AM
Ten Way Tie!!! (actually counting Pharm Chem & Sounds of the City this is a 12-way tie)

Jackson 5 - "Never Can Say Goodbye", believe it or not, Dave hasn't played this for over 3 years, although Gloria Gaynor's version has cropped up twice in the interim.
Title: 24 Aug 2006: 1971!
Post by: mshray on August 24, 2006, 10:49:44 AM
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And a followup BOSwhatver+1 for Michael & his bros, Never Can Say Goodbye. Yep, another fine set today.

I'd have sworn the EJ was the #10 tune.


You were right if you were counting the twin-spin as 2 tunes.  Which makes it a 13-way tie.

When Dave said the Pharm Chem "got a ton of votes" that's because I called him & said I wanted to vote for it a million times, so it would be sure to win.  Dave replied, "You. Must be. HIGH."  I said, "I wish."
Title: 24 Aug 2006: 1971!
Post by: Gazoo on August 24, 2006, 12:08:55 PM
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BOS1 Bowie, Oh You Pretty Things!! FAB!!


Well, y'know, it was always rumored that Bowie was a Homo (Superior).


Didn't Bianca famously start that rumor?


I think David himself started it, and if not him, then his ex Angie.  At any rate, he did nothing to discourage such talk while it was benefitting his image; then he disavowed it all when he realized there were other ways to make money and burnish creds.  "A closeted heterosexual," he would refer to himself in those days as during one '90s interview.

PS: I'd give my BOS to the Kongos track.  Any of you ever hear the remake by the Happy Mondays, retitled "Step On"?  Great music from less-than-great people.
Title: 24 Aug 2006: 1971!
Post by: RGMike on August 24, 2006, 12:16:58 PM
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PS: I'd give my BOS to the Kongos track.  Any of you ever hear the remake by the Happy Mondays, retitled "Step On"?  Great music from less-than-great people.


we've discussed before, no?  It shows up on CG occasionally.
Title: 24 Aug 2006: 1971!
Post by: princessofcairo on August 24, 2006, 12:38:33 PM
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BOS Michael & Bros. Clifton Davis's career peak (unless you really liked That's My mama)!


well, i thoroughly enjoyed its spinoff, that's my white mama!, a short-lived mad tv skit.

but then he wasn't so bad as the reverend in amen.
Title: 24 Aug 2006: 1971!
Post by: RGMike on August 24, 2006, 12:44:21 PM
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BOS Michael & Bros. Clifton Davis's career peak (unless you really liked That's My mama)!


well, i thoroughly enjoyed its spinoff, that's my white mama!, a short-lived mad tv skit.

but then he wasn't so bad as the reverend in amen.


princess! check out the streep!

http://www.newyorkmetro.com/arts/theater/profiles/18845/index.html
Title: 24 Aug 2006: 1971!
Post by: Gazoo on August 24, 2006, 12:44:22 PM
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BOS Michael & Bros. Clifton Davis's career peak (unless you really liked That's My mama)!


well, i thoroughly enjoyed its spinoff, that's my white mama!, a short-lived mad tv skit.

but then he wasn't so bad as the reverend in amen.


Wasn't "That's My Momma" the show Randy Watson had a cameo appearance in, in Coming to America?

Sex'shul Choclit!!!
Title: 24 Aug 2006: 1971!
Post by: mshray on August 24, 2006, 02:46:17 PM
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Any of you ever hear the remake by the Happy Mondays, retitled "Step On"?  Great music from less-than-great people.


"Step On" is an awesome tune!  I had no idea how it related to this thread until you said so.  Please elaborate (on both that & the 'less-than-great-people' bit).
Title: woulda been my BOS
Post by: ggould on August 24, 2006, 10:03:39 PM
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Ten Way Tie!!! (actually counting Pharm Chem & Sounds of the City this is a 12-way tie)

Jackson 5 - "Never Can Say Goodbye", believe it or not, Dave hasn't played this for over 3 years, although Gloria Gaynor's version has cropped up twice in the interim.
Isn't there and Isaac Hayes version?  Our old band used to do that song.  I really enjoyed playing bass on it.
Title: Re: woulda been my BOS
Post by: RGMike on August 24, 2006, 10:22:19 PM
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Ten Way Tie!!! (actually counting Pharm Chem & Sounds of the City this is a 12-way tie)

Jackson 5 - "Never Can Say Goodbye", believe it or not, Dave hasn't played this for over 3 years, although Gloria Gaynor's version has cropped up twice in the interim.
Isn't there and Isaac Hayes version?  Our old band used to do that song.  I really enjoyed playing bass on it.


Yes, it was on the charts at the same time, and peaked at 22 (while the J-5 got to number 2). This was 6 months before "Shaft". The Communards charted it (with the G.Gaynor disco arrangement) in 1988.
Title: 24 Aug 2006: 1971!
Post by: SFGuy on August 25, 2006, 01:38:16 AM
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BOSwhatever Timothy!! Rupert Holmes at his very best!!


Isn't Rupert Holmes the guy who did that awful song later in this decade about Pina Coladas??
Title: 24 Aug 2006: 1971!
Post by: RGMike on August 25, 2006, 07:12:10 AM
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BOSwhatever Timothy!! Rupert Holmes at his very best!!


Isn't Rupert Holmes the guy who did that awful song later in this decade about Pina Coladas??


indeed -- tasty cheeze to some; a Hit-From-Hell to others. But he's had an amazing career and his mid-'70s stuff (like Widescreen) is pretty amazing, smart adult pop.
Title: 24 Aug 2006: 1971!
Post by: Gazoo on August 25, 2006, 08:56:39 AM
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BOSwhatever Timothy!! Rupert Holmes at his very best!!


Isn't Rupert Holmes the guy who did that awful song later in this decade about Pina Coladas??


indeed -- tasty cheeze to some; a Hit-From-Hell to others. But he's had an amazing career and his mid-'70s stuff (like Widescreen) is pretty amazing, smart adult pop.


To add to his strange legacy: He sang lead on a 1970 bubblegum pop number called "Jennifer Tompkins," credited to a studio assemblage called Street People.  Amazing that it charted at all; it's a horribly recorded and ill-thought-out number that combines bgum's perkiness with a story-song-crisis lyric.

On the other hand, it'd be beneficial if someone, somewhere, would play his "Pina Colada" follow-up, "Him," once in a while.
Title: 24 Aug 2006: 1971!
Post by: Gazoo on August 25, 2006, 09:00:15 AM
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Any of you ever hear the remake by the Happy Mondays, retitled "Step On"?  Great music from less-than-great people.


"Step On" is an awesome tune!  I had no idea how it related to this thread until you said so.  Please elaborate (on both that & the 'less-than-great-people' bit).


Well, their other near-hit, "Kinky Afro," has one of the bleaker lyrics I've ever known, enough so that it gives me shivers every time I hear it (http://www.lyricsfreak.com/h/happy+mondays/kinky+afro_20064317.html for the words).  But AMG says it better than I could:

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Unwittingly or not, Happy Mondays personified the ugly side of rave culture. They were thugs, purely and simply -- they brought out the latent violence that lay beneath the surface of any drug culture, even one as seemingly beatific as England's late-'80s/early-'90s rave scene. Under the leadership of vocalist Shaun Ryder, the group sounded and acted like thugs, especially in comparison with their peace-loving peers, the Stone Roses. Ryder's lyrics were twisted and surrealistic, loaded with bizarre pop culture references, drug slang, and menacing sexuality. Appropriately, their music was as convoluted. Happy Mondays were one of the first rock bands to integrate hip-hop techniques into their music. They didn't sample, but they borrowed melodies and lyrics and, in the process, committed rock blasphemy. For a band that celebrated their vulgarity and excessiveness, Happy Mondays appropriately were undone by their addictions, but they left behind a surprisingly influential legacy, apparent in everyone from dance bands like the Chemical Brothers to rock & rollers like Oasis.

With their second album, 1988's Bummed, Happy Mondays became British superstars, particularly Ryder. Pills 'n' Thrills and Bellyaches, released in 1990, marked the height of the band's popularity, creativity, and influence; although the record made the Top 100 albums chart in America, it didn't establish them as stars in the U.S. After that, the fall was quick. By the time they released their last studio album, Yes, Please, Manchester had disappeared from public consciousness; it sold respectably, but the group didn't have the commercial impact that they had just two years before. Besides the lack of public interest, Shaun Ryder had become addicted to heroin, tearing the band apart in the process. At a high-level record contract meeting, Ryder walked out for some "Kentucky Fried Chicken," which was the band's slang for heroin. He never returned and the group quickly fell apart.
Title: 24 Aug 2006: 1971!
Post by: RGMike on August 25, 2006, 09:01:38 AM
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BOSwhatever Timothy!! Rupert Holmes at his very best!!


Isn't Rupert Holmes the guy who did that awful song later in this decade about Pina Coladas??


indeed -- tasty cheeze to some; a Hit-From-Hell to others. But he's had an amazing career and his mid-'70s stuff (like Widescreen) is pretty amazing, smart adult pop.


To add to his strange legacy: He sang lead on a 1970 bubblegum pop number called "Jennifer Tompkins," credited to a studio assemblage called Street People.  Amazing that it charted at all; it's a horribly recorded and ill-thought-out number that combines bgum's perkiness with a story-song-crisis lyric.

On the other hand, it'd be beneficial if someone, somewhere, would play his "Pina Colada" follow-up, "Him," once in a while.


gaz, I've probably asked before, but how familiar are you with Widescreen and his 2 other Epic releases from '74 thru '76?  Some genius stuff there, IMHO.
Title: 24 Aug 2006: 1971!
Post by: Gazoo on August 25, 2006, 09:03:34 AM
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gaz, I've probably asked before, but how familiar are you with Widescreen and his 2 other Epic releases from '74 thru '76?  Some genius stuff there, IMHO.


Not familiar in the slightest, I'm afraid.  What've I missed?  Know if the stuff's in print?
Title: 24 Aug 2006: 1971!
Post by: RGMike on August 25, 2006, 09:06:52 AM
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gaz, I've probably asked before, but how familiar are you with Widescreen and his 2 other Epic releases from '74 thru '76?  Some genius stuff there, IMHO.


Not familiar in the slightest, I'm afraid.  What've I missed?  Know if the stuff's in print?


long outta print, but some wonderful, clever adult pop (not for nothing was he called "the thinking man's Barry Manilow"; Barry covered his "Studio Musician" on his live LP).  There is a Rupert Holmes Collection best-of on CD that has most of the pertinent tunes, but a few good ones remain MIA.
Title: 24 Aug 2006: 1971!
Post by: RGMike on August 25, 2006, 09:54:39 AM
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gaz, I've probably asked before, but how familiar are you with Widescreen and his 2 other Epic releases from '74 thru '76?  Some genius stuff there, IMHO.


Not familiar in the slightest, I'm afraid.  What've I missed?  Know if the stuff's in print?


long outta print, but some wonderful, clever adult pop (not for nothing was he called "the thinking man's Barry Manilow"; Barry covered his "Studio Musician" on his live LP).  There is a Rupert Holmes Collection best-of on CD that has most of the pertinent tunes, but a few good ones remain MIA.


on further investigation: Widescreen has (finally!) been reissued in a "collectors edition" featuring many bonus tracks from his second LP, Rupert Holmes.  His 3rd album, the delightful Singles, is still out-of-print.  I'd recommend that reissue, I think you'd really like it.