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Title: 29 June: Dave's back & we're off to - 1974
Post by: mshray on June 29, 2006, 09:59:06 AM
Yay, Bowie to start.
Title: Re: 29 June: Dave's back & we're off to - 1974
Post by: RGMike on June 29, 2006, 10:02:42 AM
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Yay, Bowie to start.


Our tacky things, we put them on... again.

Hope Dave honors us with a breakout.  I'm guessing '60s or a theme tomorrow (haven't done a VT in a while).
Title: 29 June: Dave's back & we're off to - 1974
Post by: Davefish on June 29, 2006, 10:07:23 AM
Good to hear "Let Me Roll It" -- I dig that riff.  I remember listening to "Wings Over America" endlessly -- I think my aunt gave it to me.  But I did think he was saying, "You gave me loving in a common man".  I thought Paul was talking about some gay encounter he'd had.  Certainly colored my perception of the song as a 10-year-old, or whatever I was then.
Title: 29 June: Dave's back & we're off to - 1974
Post by: RGMike on June 29, 2006, 10:08:25 AM
BOS Macca, "Let Me Roll It". Amazing how well this LP holds up. Truly his artistic peak.

Yesterday someone called Dean on CG and requested "Helen Wheels", which he couldn't get his hands on -- he promises to play it today.
Title: 29 June: Dave's back & we're off to - 1974
Post by: RGMike on June 29, 2006, 10:09:56 AM
a double dip of the dan, darlin'. proxy of you-know-you.

"have you ever seen a squonk's tears?"
Title: BOS Any Major Dude
Post by: ggould on June 29, 2006, 10:11:03 AM
great album, when exactly did this come out?
Title: 29 June: Dave's back & we're off to - 1974
Post by: urth on June 29, 2006, 10:13:27 AM
Wow, now here's a rarity, if not a bustout: Joe Walsh, Meadows.

BOS1
Title: 29 June: Dave's back & we're off to - 1974
Post by: mshray on June 29, 2006, 10:13:53 AM
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BOS Macca, "Let Me Roll It". Amazing how well this LP holds up. Truly his artistic peak.

Yesterday someone called Dean on CG and requested "Helen Wheels", which he couldn't get his hands on -- he promises to play it today.


That would be cool.  For all you etymologists out there, from whence cometh the term Hell On Wheels?

Ooh, BOS from me for Joe Walsh "The Meadow", great riffing.
Title: 29 June: Dave's back & we're off to - 1974
Post by: Davefish on June 29, 2006, 10:14:11 AM
Naturally, BOS for the Dan, a song I've tried to master on the guitar for years.  And VHM for the wildman Joe and the James Gang.  (Not the Gang?  Oh well.)
Title: 29 June: Dave's back & we're off to - 1974
Post by: Alicat on June 29, 2006, 10:15:03 AM
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Wow, now here's a rarity, if not a bustout: Joe Walsh, Meadows.

BOS1

Ditto the BOS
Title: 29 June: Dave's back & we're off to - 1974
Post by: urth on June 29, 2006, 10:17:26 AM
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BOS Macca, "Let Me Roll It". Amazing how well this LP holds up. Truly his artistic peak.

Yesterday someone called Dean on CG and requested "Helen Wheels", which he couldn't get his hands on -- he promises to play it today.


That would be cool.  For all you etymologists out there, from whence cometh the term Hell On Wheels?

Ooh, BOS from me for Joe Walsh "The Meadow", great riffing.


Wasn't it the slogan of a WWII infantry battalion? Sorry, can't recall which one, but I'm betting you know.
Title: 29 June: Dave's back & we're off to - 1974
Post by: RGMike on June 29, 2006, 10:17:55 AM
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Wow, now here's a rarity, if not a bustout: Joe Walsh, Meadows.

BOS1


certainly not a bustout (I wouldn't even say rarity, but then I'm picky about such things) But sounding very nice today.

Ah, Shuggie and his Strawberry thang.
Title: 29 June: Dave's back & we're off to - 1974
Post by: Davefish on June 29, 2006, 10:19:16 AM
More HM for Shuggie Otis, though I still like the Brothers Johnson version a lot better.  I'm not fond of Otis' voice -- it's kind of a Bob Welch thinness to it.  Though I have to admit, the BJ's arrangement is quite the ripoff of this one.
Title: VHM Strawberry Letter
Post by: ggould on June 29, 2006, 10:20:21 AM
but I prefer the Brothers Johnson version
Title: 29 June: Dave's back & we're off to - 1974
Post by: mshray on June 29, 2006, 10:21:04 AM
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Wow, now here's a rarity, if not a bustout: Joe Walsh, Meadows.

BOS1


Bustout within the limitations of my archive anyway.
Title: VHM Womack
Post by: ggould on June 29, 2006, 10:21:34 AM
Is J Geils the original?
Title: 29 June: Dave's back & we're off to - 1974
Post by: RGMike on June 29, 2006, 10:21:48 AM
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More HM for Shuggie Otis, though I still like the Brothers Johnson version a lot better.  I'm not fond of Otis' voice -- it's kind of a Bob Welch thinness to it.  Though I have to admit, the BJ's arrangement is quite the ripoff of this one.


wow, you're dead on again -- he does sound like Mr Welch.

BOS2 Bobby W!  I'm lookin, I'm lookin'...
Title: 29 June: Dave's back & we're off to - 1974
Post by: mshray on June 29, 2006, 10:22:54 AM
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 For all you etymologists out there, from whence cometh the term Hell On Wheels?
 


Wasn't it the slogan of a WWII infantry battalion? Sorry, can't recall which one, but I'm betting you know.


Of course I know, silly, I don't generally ask rhetorical trivia quesions.

Anyway it dates from the mid 19th century.
Title: 29 June: Dave's back & we're off to - 1974
Post by: Davefish on June 29, 2006, 10:23:35 AM
Bobby's lookin' for a love, but also looking for someone to do some housework. Hilarious  :lol:
Title: Re: VHM Womack
Post by: urth on June 29, 2006, 10:24:23 AM
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Is J Geils the original?


Nope, I think the Womack version is.

ETA: Yep, unless the song that Sam Cooke did by that name is the same one.
Title: snooze
Post by: ggould on June 29, 2006, 10:24:23 AM
ELO
Title: 29 June: Dave's back & we're off to - 1974
Post by: RGMike on June 29, 2006, 10:26:59 AM
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Bobby's lookin' for a love, but also looking for someone to do some housework. Hilarious  :lol:


Reminds me of the comment in Betting Fool's column on sfgate today, about KNBR's Ralph Barbieri, and how he always calls himself a feminist. Yeah, Ralph, that's why you couldn't find any women in SF to marry you. LOL!
Title: Re: VHM Womack
Post by: ggould on June 29, 2006, 10:30:47 AM
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Is J Geils the original?
Nope, I think the Womack version is.

ETA: Yep, unless the song that Sam Cooke did by that name is the same one.

J. Geils version came out in 71
Title: 29 June: Dave's back & we're off to - 1974
Post by: RGMike on June 29, 2006, 10:31:00 AM
Wet Katrillie, "Keep on Smilin'"

Did the double entendre of their name just go right over the heads of radio programmers?
Title: Re: snooze
Post by: mshray on June 29, 2006, 10:31:53 AM
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ELO


Dave has really cut back on his ELO fixation.  In the 15 months from Apr '05 thru May '06 he played only 16 ELO tunes total.  In the preceding 11 months he played 26, more than double the frequency.
Title: 29 June: Dave's back & we're off to - 1974
Post by: Alicat on June 29, 2006, 10:33:32 AM
BOS Jazzman. Blow dem horns.....
Title: 29 June: Dave's back & we're off to - 1974
Post by: RGMike on June 29, 2006, 10:34:06 AM
Carole King sings to her bra!

"Lift me, won't you lift me..."

and the Gaz-man's testifyin'!
Title: 29 June: Dave's back & we're off to - 1974
Post by: mshray on June 29, 2006, 10:34:06 AM
When the Jazzman's testifying a faithless man believes.

I believe this is my BOS #3 (or is it #4?)
Title: 29 June: Dave's back & we're off to - 1974
Post by: RGMike on June 29, 2006, 10:37:28 AM
VHM Eagles, "On the Border", one of Mr Henley's earliest stabs at political commentary.
Title: 29 June: Dave's back & we're off to - 1974
Post by: mshray on June 29, 2006, 10:37:29 AM
VHM Iggles "On the Border"
Title: 29 June: Dave's back & we're off to - 1974
Post by: Davefish on June 29, 2006, 10:38:38 AM
I was trying to sing "On the Border" in the shower the other day.  Have no idea why it came to me.  I wasn't too good, which is kind of sad.
Title: Re: VHM Womack
Post by: urth on June 29, 2006, 10:39:13 AM
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Is J Geils the original?
Nope, I think the Womack version is.

ETA: Yep, unless the song that Sam Cooke did by that name is the same one.

J. Geils version came out in 71


Ah, I see the problem. The J. Geils version doesn't abbreviate "lookin'" where the Sam Cooke and Womack versions do. I was looking at the listing for the abbreviated name, which didn't include the Geils because of the spelling variation.

Anyway, it seems Sam Cook & the Valentinos did the original, Geils came later, and Womack after that.
Title: 29 June: Dave's back & we're off to - 1974
Post by: Davefish on June 29, 2006, 10:39:48 AM
Gotta say Dave didn't disappoint after his hiatus.

ETA: And no mention of Jose, though he did get a recommedation from Lisa Simpson.  What's next?  Bart?
Title: 29 June: Dave's back & we're off to - 1974
Post by: RGMike on June 29, 2006, 10:42:39 AM
damn, I removed my Lisa Simpson avatar too soon!
Title: 29 June: Dave's back & we're off to - 1974
Post by: mshray on June 29, 2006, 10:43:15 AM
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Gotta say Dave didn't disappoint after his hiatus.


Likewise.  Ginger's '75 set was awesome & then this.  And I'm guessing we get a tasty 60's set tomorrow.
Title: Re: VHM Womack
Post by: ggould on June 29, 2006, 11:02:44 AM
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Is J Geils the original?
Nope, I think the Womack version is.

ETA: Yep, unless the song that Sam Cooke did by that name is the same one.
J. Geils version came out in 71
Ah, I see the problem. The J. Geils version doesn't abbreviate "lookin'" where the Sam Cooke and Womack versions do. I was looking at the listing for the abbreviated name, which didn't include the Geils because of the spelling variation.

Anyway, it seems Sam Cook & the Valentinos did the original, Geils came later, and Womack after that.

Wait, Wait!  It's a twisted story.  For some reason, I Googled when I should have been working, and what I've come up with is that the songwriters are someone else altogether (James Alexander / Zelda Samuels) and some lyrics site says:  
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Also recorded by: Sam Cooke; Jack O. & The Tearjerkers; Steve Marriott; The Small Faces; Rufus Thomas; The Valentinos.

So I finally track down the Sam Cooke reference (he's one of my all time faves) and it turns out to be on this album of tracks from Sam's label, SAR. Bobby Womack was in the Valentinos back then!  The sound sample on Amazon has that gruff thing going on.  Billy Preston is supposed to be one of Sam's artists back then too.
Title: 29 June: Dave's back & we're off to - 1974
Post by: mshray on June 29, 2006, 11:17:19 AM
So the good Foghead took Annalisa's   b r o a d   hint and picked door number one - Roxy Music "Out of the Blue".

Yippee!
Title: 29 June: Dave's back & we're off to - 1974
Post by: urth on June 29, 2006, 11:52:14 AM
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 For all you etymologists out there, from whence cometh the term Hell On Wheels?
 


Wasn't it the slogan of a WWII infantry battalion? Sorry, can't recall which one, but I'm betting you know.


Of course I know, silly, I don't generally ask rhetorical trivia quesions.

Anyway it dates from the mid 19th century.


No, I meant that you knew which battalion it was, like the 53rd Infantry or some kinda thing. I figured you knew the answer to the question.

Anyway, so WWII is off, but it dates from the mid-1800s. Can you expand on that? Or rather, would you?
Title: 29 June: Dave's back & we're off to - 1974
Post by: RGMike on June 29, 2006, 12:05:56 PM
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 For all you etymologists out there, from whence cometh the term Hell On Wheels?
 


Wasn't it the slogan of a WWII infantry battalion? Sorry, can't recall which one, but I'm betting you know.


Of course I know, silly, I don't generally ask rhetorical trivia quesions.

Anyway it dates from the mid 19th century.


No, I meant that you knew which battalion it was, like the 53rd Infantry or some kinda thing. I figured you knew the answer to the question.

Anyway, so WWII is off, but it dates from the mid-1800s. Can you expand on that? Or rather, would you?


I'm guessing it has theatrical roots?
Title: 29 June: Dave's back & we're off to - 1974
Post by: RGMike on June 29, 2006, 12:39:16 PM
1.  David Bowie - Rebel Rebel  
2.  McCartney & Wings - Let Me Roll it  
3.  Steely Dan - Any Major Dude  
4.  Joe Walsh - Meadows (BEST OF SET!!)  
5.  Shuggie Otis - Strawberry Letter 23  
6.  Bobby Womack - Lookin' For a Love  
7.  ELO - Boy Blue  
8.  Wet Willie - Keep on Smilin'  
9.  Carole King - Jazzman  
10.  Eagles - On the Border  
 
BONUS TRACK:  Roxy Music - Out of the Blue
Title: 29 June: Dave's back & we're off to - 1974
Post by: mshray on June 29, 2006, 12:41:14 PM
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 For all you etymologists out there, from whence cometh the term Hell On Wheels?
 


Wasn't it the slogan of a WWII infantry battalion? Sorry, can't recall which one, but I'm betting you know.


Of course I know, silly, I don't generally ask rhetorical trivia quesions.

Anyway it dates from the mid 19th century.


No, I meant that you knew which battalion it was, like the 53rd Infantry or some kinda thing. I figured you knew the answer to the question.

Anyway, so WWII is off, but it dates from the mid-1800s. Can you expand on that? Or rather, would you?


I'm guessing it has theatrical roots?


No, it's a surprisingly literal reference.  It comes from the Union Pacific RR Co. building the eastern half of the transcontinental railroad.  Unlike the Central Pacific, which after few months was largely employing well-behaved Chinese, the Union Pacific employed anyone who could get there; an incredibly volatile mix of humanity with the largest numbers coming from three groups: Irish immigrants, ex-Confederate soldiers, and ex-slaves.  Vice & violence were endemic, and the U-P bosses also quickly learned that they had problems with turnover.  So as both a profit-making scheme & a way to keep their labor supply more dependent on the company wages, they either set up or actively encouraged brothels, gaming dens, saloons, etc.  The scene of all this activity adjacent to the laborers' camp became known as Helltown.  And every 20 miles or so the whole thing had to pull up stakes and move west with the newly laid track, thus it became Hell quite literally On Wheels.  

According to one book I read on the subject, Hell on Wheels had essentially no law enforcement and averaged roughly two homicides per night.
Title: 29 June: Dave's back & we're off to - 1974
Post by: RGMike on June 29, 2006, 12:43:54 PM
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 For all you etymologists out there, from whence cometh the term Hell On Wheels?
 


Wasn't it the slogan of a WWII infantry battalion? Sorry, can't recall which one, but I'm betting you know.


Of course I know, silly, I don't generally ask rhetorical trivia quesions.

Anyway it dates from the mid 19th century.


No, I meant that you knew which battalion it was, like the 53rd Infantry or some kinda thing. I figured you knew the answer to the question.

Anyway, so WWII is off, but it dates from the mid-1800s. Can you expand on that? Or rather, would you?


I'm guessing it has theatrical roots?


No, it's a surprisingly literal reference.  It comes from the Union Pacific RR Co. building the eastern half of the transcontinental railroad.  Unlike the Central Pacific, which after few months was largely employing well-behaved Chinese, the Union Pacific employed anyone who could get there; an incredibly volatile mix of humanity with the largest numbers coming from three groups: Irish immigrants, ex-Confederate soldiers, and ex-slaves.  Vice & violence were endemic, and the U-P bosses also quickly learned that they had problems with turnover.  So as both a profit-making scheme & a way to keep their labor supply more dependent on the company wages, they either set up or actively encouraged brothels, gaming dens, saloons, etc.  The scene of all this activity adjacent to the laborers' camp became known as Helltown.  And every 20 miles or so the whole thing had to pull up stakes and move west with the newly laid track, thus it became Hell quite literally On Wheels.  

According to one book I read on the subject, Hell on Wheels had essentially no law enforcement and averaged roughly two homicides per night.


Damn! sounds like an HBO series, if they didn't already have Deadwood.
Title: 29 June: Dave's back & we're off to - 1974
Post by: princessofcairo on June 29, 2006, 01:31:13 PM
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 For all you etymologists out there, from whence cometh the term Hell On Wheels?
 


Wasn't it the slogan of a WWII infantry battalion? Sorry, can't recall which one, but I'm betting you know.


Of course I know, silly, I don't generally ask rhetorical trivia quesions.

Anyway it dates from the mid 19th century.


No, I meant that you knew which battalion it was, like the 53rd Infantry or some kinda thing. I figured you knew the answer to the question.

Anyway, so WWII is off, but it dates from the mid-1800s. Can you expand on that? Or rather, would you?


I'm guessing it has theatrical roots?


No, it's a surprisingly literal reference.  It comes from the Union Pacific RR Co. building the eastern half of the transcontinental railroad.  Unlike the Central Pacific, which after few months was largely employing well-behaved Chinese, the Union Pacific employed anyone who could get there; an incredibly volatile mix of humanity with the largest numbers coming from three groups: Irish immigrants, ex-Confederate soldiers, and ex-slaves.  Vice & violence were endemic, and the U-P bosses also quickly learned that they had problems with turnover.  So as both a profit-making scheme & a way to keep their labor supply more dependent on the company wages, they either set up or actively encouraged brothels, gaming dens, saloons, etc.  The scene of all this activity adjacent to the laborers' camp became known as Helltown.  And every 20 miles or so the whole thing had to pull up stakes and move west with the newly laid track, thus it became Hell quite literally On Wheels.  

According to one book I read on the subject, Hell on Wheels had essentially no law enforcement and averaged roughly two homicides per night.


this is why is tick around here, folks. where else are you going to hear shit like this in the midst of all the good music? :)