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Title: 1 May 2006 -- a "classic" from 1980
Post by: mshray on May 01, 2006, 08:55:51 AM
Annalisa's in for Dave, which means we get a classic.  Wonder if Dave took off with Mike to help him celebrate his birthday.
Title: Re: 1 May 2006 -- a "classic" from 19??
Post by: Lightnin' Rod on May 01, 2006, 08:59:39 AM
Quote from: "mshray"
Annalisa's in for Dave, which means we get a classic.  Wonder if Dave took off with Mike to help him celebrate his birthday.


I don't know if this is a new thing, but I recieved an email from Kfog today wishing me happy birthday, complete with a 10 @ 10 baton gif and Dave Morey e-signature.
Title: Re: 1 May 2006 -- a "classic" from 19??
Post by: RGMike on May 01, 2006, 09:04:06 AM
Quote from: "Rod"
Quote from: "mshray"
Annalisa's in for Dave, which means we get a classic.  Wonder if Dave took off with Mike to help him celebrate his birthday.


I don't know if this is a new thing, but I recieved an email from Kfog today wishing me happy birthday, complete with a 10 @ 10 baton gif and Dave Morey e-signature.


I got one last year, so I'll look forward to one tomorrow.  Happy B-Day, bub!
Title: Re: 1 May 2006 -- a "classic" from 19??
Post by: mshray on May 01, 2006, 09:06:42 AM
Quote from: "Rod"
Quote from: "mshray"
Annalisa's in for Dave, which means we get a classic.  Wonder if Dave took off with Mike to help him celebrate his birthday.


I don't know if this is a new thing, but I recieved an email from Kfog today wishing me happy birthday, complete with a 10 @ 10 baton gif and Dave Morey e-signature.



Happy Birthday Lightnin' Rod!!!
Title: Re: 1 May 2006 -- a "classic" from 19??
Post by: RGMike on May 01, 2006, 09:15:38 AM
Quote from: "mshray"
Wonder if Dave took off with Mike to help him celebrate his birthday.


I assumed he was on vacay all week, but he really is taking the same 2 days off that I am.  :roll:
Title: Re: 1 May 2006 -- a "classic" from 19??
Post by: Gazoo on May 01, 2006, 09:47:27 AM
Quote from: "RGMike"
Quote from: "mshray"
Wonder if Dave took off with Mike to help him celebrate his birthday.


I assumed he was on vacay all week, but he really is taking the same 2 days off that I am.  :roll:


OMG MIKE IS JOSÉ
Title: 1 May 2006 -- a "classic" from 1980
Post by: urth on May 01, 2006, 10:03:28 AM
Early BOS to the Pretenders' Up the Neck. This is a record DM should mine more deeply. Played it almost daily circa 80-82.
Title: early BOS indeed
Post by: ggould on May 01, 2006, 10:04:57 AM
Quote from: "urth"
Early BOS to the Pretenders' Up the Neck. This is a record DM should mine more deeply. Played it almost daily circa 80-82.
taking the day off to furiously work on some credential biz, but love this tune!
Title: Re: 1 May 2006 -- a "classic" from 19??
Post by: RGMike on May 01, 2006, 10:07:55 AM
Quote from: "Gazoo"
Quote from: "RGMike"
Quote from: "mshray"
Wonder if Dave took off with Mike to help him celebrate his birthday.


I assumed he was on vacay all week, but he really is taking the same 2 days off that I am.  :roll:


OMG MIKE IS JOSÉ


Who do jew tink jew talkin' to, beetch?

I almost bailed but BOS "Up the Neck" -- this truly was one of THE played-it-to-death LPs of 1980 for me.
Title: Re: 1 May 2006 -- a "classic" from 19??
Post by: Davefish on May 01, 2006, 10:11:07 AM
Quote from: "RGMike"
Quote from: "Gazoo"
Quote from: "RGMike"
Quote from: "mshray"
Wonder if Dave took off with Mike to help him celebrate his birthday.


I assumed he was on vacay all week, but he really is taking the same 2 days off that I am.  :roll:


OMG MIKE IS JOSÉ


Who do jew tink jew talkin' to, beetch?

I almost bailed but BOS "Up the Neck" -- this truly was one of THE played-it-to-death LPs of 1980 for me.

Is it OK if I call you Spartacus?

A very fine set, by the way.  I like the segue into "She's So Cold", even though it isn't much of a song.
Title: ATOMIC!!!
Post by: ggould on May 01, 2006, 10:17:33 AM
sorry, it just seemed to need exclamation points!
VHM
Title: 1 May 2006 -- a "classic" from 1980
Post by: RGMike on May 01, 2006, 10:17:59 AM
But OH! your hair is BOS!  Haven't heard "Atomic" on US radio in ages (it was a big hit in the UK so CG plays it regularly).

Can't recall a 1980 "classic" this good since don't-know-when.

uh-oh -- Maragrtita Man approaches.
Title: 1 May 2006 -- a "classic" from 1980
Post by: mshray on May 01, 2006, 10:18:38 AM
Quote from: "RGMike"
But OH! your hair is BOS!  Haven't heard "Atomic" on US radio in ages (it was a big hit in the UK so CG plays it regularly).

Can't recall a 1980 "classic" this good since don't-know-when.

uh-oh -- Maragrtita Man approaches.



This is, btw, a 'new' classic, as the only other time I have a record of "Up the Neck" being played it was the TotHC.
Title: Wonderful Life
Post by: ggould on May 01, 2006, 10:19:13 AM
How great it must be to be Jimmy Buffet.  Always playing feel-good music to an appreciative crowd, playing if sandals and shorts, and working with a hot group of musician.
Title: Re: Wonderful Life
Post by: mshray on May 01, 2006, 10:21:50 AM
Quote from: "ggould"
How great it must be to be Jimmy Buffet.  Always playing feel-good music to an appreciative crowd, playing if sandals and shorts, and working with a hot group of musician.


Do you know any of them Geoff?  Peter & Jim Mayer are old family friends of my folks' from St. Louis.
Title: 1 May 2006 -- a "classic" from 1980
Post by: urth on May 01, 2006, 10:21:59 AM
Quote from: "mshray"
Quote from: "RGMike"
But OH! your hair is BOS!  Haven't heard "Atomic" on US radio in ages (it was a big hit in the UK so CG plays it regularly).

Can't recall a 1980 "classic" this good since don't-know-when.

uh-oh -- Maragrtita Man approaches.



This is, btw, a 'new' classic, as the only other time I have a record of "Up the Neck" being played it was the TotHC.


By 'new' you mean the first time it's been repeated, yes?
Title: Re: Wonderful Life
Post by: RGMike on May 01, 2006, 10:22:51 AM
Quote from: "ggould"
How great it must be to be Jimmy Buffet.  Always playing feel-good music to an appreciative crowd, playing if sandals and shorts, and working with a hot group of musician.


And watching that bank account get bigger and bigger and bigger.

OMG! BOS3 T.Heads!  This really IS a classic worthy of the name.
Title: 1 May 2006 -- a "classic" from 1980
Post by: mshray on May 01, 2006, 10:23:00 AM
Dang & double Dang, This must have been one fo the best 1980 sets Dave ever put together.  Another BOS for the T Heads "Houses In Motion"
Title: Re: Wonderful Life
Post by: Davefish on May 01, 2006, 10:23:30 AM
Quote from: "RGMike"
Quote from: "ggould"
How great it must be to be Jimmy Buffet.  Always playing feel-good music to an appreciative crowd, playing if sandals and shorts, and working with a hot group of musician.


And watching that bank account get bigger and bigger and bigger.

OMG! BOS3 T.Heads!  This really IS a classic worthy of the name.

BOS for Talking Heads, fer sure.
Title: Re: Wonderful Life
Post by: ggould on May 01, 2006, 10:24:01 AM
Quote from: "mshray"
Quote from: "ggould"
How great it must be to be Jimmy Buffet.  Always playing feel-good music to an appreciative crowd, playing in sandals and shorts, and working with a hot group of musician.


Do you know any of them Geoff?  Peter & Jim Mayer are old family friends of my folks' from St. Louis.

I never met them in my day, but know by reputation that it's a crack crew, often with special guests.
Title: 1 May 2006 -- a "classic" from 1980
Post by: mshray on May 01, 2006, 10:25:04 AM
Quote from: "urth"
Quote from: "mshray"
Quote from: "RGMike"
But OH! your hair is BOS!  Haven't heard "Atomic" on US radio in ages (it was a big hit in the UK so CG plays it regularly).

Can't recall a 1980 "classic" this good since don't-know-when.

uh-oh -- Maragrtita Man approaches.



This is, btw, a 'new' classic, as the only other time I have a record of "Up the Neck" being played it was the TotHC.


By 'new' you mean the first time it's been repeated, yes?


No, I mean this whole set constitutes a new entry.  For all I know it first played in 1990 & has been repeated 6 or 7 times, but it never got caught by Darryl, thus it's bonafide data for me.
Title: BOS2 for Talking Heads
Post by: ggould on May 01, 2006, 10:25:12 AM
sounds like it's from the Bush of Ghosts era?
Title: no president wants war?
Post by: ggould on May 01, 2006, 10:26:16 AM
what about the Decider?
Title: 1 May 2006 -- a "classic" from 1980
Post by: RGMike on May 01, 2006, 10:26:51 AM
Quote from: "mshray"
Dang & double Dang, This must have been one fo the best 1980 sets Dave ever put together.  Another BOS for the T Heads "Houses In Motion"


Given what we know about Dave not keeping track of what he plays... do ya think they even know what songs are involved when they pull a "classic" off the shelf?

Good GOD! Stephanie Mills!!!  Best 1980 set of all time!
Title: 1 May 2006 -- a "classic" from 1980
Post by: urth on May 01, 2006, 10:26:54 AM
Quote from: "mshray"
Dang & double Dang, This must have been one fo the best 1980 sets Dave ever put together.  Another BOS for the T Heads "Houses In Motion"


It does seem to be hitting all the good parts of 80 and none of the dreck. Wonder if we'll hear Steely Dan? I was shocked not to hear a Lennon tune after the clips re: his murder.

BTW, BOS3 to THeads for me, too.
Title: BOS3 for Tom Petty
Post by: ggould on May 01, 2006, 10:29:53 AM
when he was good!
Title: Re: Wonderful Life
Post by: mshray on May 01, 2006, 10:30:25 AM
Quote from: "ggould"
Quote from: "mshray"
Quote from: "ggould"
How great it must be to be Jimmy Buffet.  Always playing feel-good music to an appreciative crowd, playing in sandals and shorts, and working with a hot group of musician.


Do you know any of them Geoff?  Peter & Jim Mayer are old family friends of my folks' from St. Louis.

I never met them in my day, but know by reputation that it's a crack crew, often with special guests.


Peter (rhythm guitar), Jim (bass, which is why i thought maybe you'd know him) & their drummer, Roger Guth, have been Coral Reefers for about 2 decades now & Peter is the musical director.  But they started as a trio in St. Louis & for about a year they worked out a female vocalist (special ed. teacher by day, just a couple years removed from college), but then she moved to L.A. to strike it rich.  Gal by the name of Sheryl Crow.
Title: Re: BOS2 for Talking Heads
Post by: urth on May 01, 2006, 10:31:52 AM
Quote from: "ggould"
sounds like it's from the Bush of Ghosts era?


Exactly. They were released about 4 months apart--Remain in Light in October 1980 and Bush of Ghosts in Feb of 81 (per AMG).

VVHM to Shadow of a Doubt too, a nice less-heard track from the Damn the Torpedoes album.
Title: 1 May 2006 -- a "classic" from 1980
Post by: RGMike on May 01, 2006, 10:33:30 AM
VHM TP&TH. I'm really glad I stuck around for this set!

Lessee... Stephanie Mills was BOS4, so that makes "Biko" BOS5...
Title: 1 May 2006 -- a "classic" from 1980
Post by: mshray on May 01, 2006, 10:34:41 AM
HOLY CRAP!!!  BOS, Best. Classic. EVER!

Gabriel's "Biko"
Title: 1 May 2006 -- a "classic" from 1980
Post by: urth on May 01, 2006, 10:34:52 AM
BOS4, Biko. One of the most moving live tunes I think I've ever heard.
Title: 1 May 2006 -- a "classic" from 1980
Post by: Davefish on May 01, 2006, 10:35:38 AM
Quote from: "mshray"
HOLY CRAP!!!  BOS, Best. Classic. EVER!

Gabriel's "Biko"

Yes indeed.  So is this the first time we've ever enjoyed a "classic"?  Feels like it.
Title: that Classic feeling
Post by: ggould on May 01, 2006, 10:37:54 AM
Quote from: "Davefish"
Quote from: "mshray"
HOLY CRAP!!!  BOS, Best. Classic. EVER! Gabriel's "Biko"
Yes indeed.  So is this the first time we've ever enjoyed a "classic"?  Feels like it.

Even for an old fart, this has been an exemplary set.
Title: 1 May 2006 -- a "classic" from 1980
Post by: urth on May 01, 2006, 10:38:50 AM
Quote from: "Davefish"
Quote from: "mshray"
HOLY CRAP!!!  BOS, Best. Classic. EVER!

Gabriel's "Biko"

Yes indeed.  So is this the first time we've ever enjoyed a "classic"?  Feels like it.


Damn near. It's certainly the exception to the rule. Understandable when it seems like most classics are from 83 or later. (Mark, what data can you give us on that? What are the most common years for classic sets?)

ETA: Wow, and Dave let Biko play out to the very end of the track. Unheard of!
Title: 1 May 2006 -- a "classic" from 1980
Post by: RGMike on May 01, 2006, 10:45:08 AM
Quote from: "urth"
Quote from: "Davefish"
Quote from: "mshray"
HOLY CRAP!!!  BOS, Best. Classic. EVER!

Gabriel's "Biko"

Yes indeed.  So is this the first time we've ever enjoyed a "classic"?  Feels like it.


Damn near. It's certainly the exception to the rule. Understandable when it seems like most classics are from 83 or later. (Mark, what data can you give us on that? What are the most common years for classic sets?)

ETA: Wow, and Dave let Biko play out to the very end of the track. Unheard of!


This MUST be an old one -- there was a 5-way tie (!) for BOS, which will screw up Big Rick's BOS replay this PM. Just a stellar Classic.

But it does seem that Classics tend to be '80s/'90s (especially when dave's only gone a day or 2), and we've joked before that Dave does it deliberately so that he doesn't have to hear Crowded House etc.
Title: 1 May 2006 -- a "classic" from 1980
Post by: mshray on May 01, 2006, 11:10:03 AM
If I had a stereo in my truck, I would have gone outside & listen to this at full volume.  This song always chokes me up.  I studied a lot of So. African history & wrote a my Senior thesis paper about Steve Biko.

I would argue that this song was the tipping point in the ulitmate demise of Apartheid.  After he heard this song, Little Steven, who has not only Dutch ancestry but even some distaff cousins in So. Africa, went to see for himself what the situation was like.  He became radicalized & came back to organize the Sun City project.  Which was a key element in the radicalization of Bono & inspired U2 to take off and devote a year to Amnesty Int'l.  They did a concert on that tour which MTV televised, & (as Urth mentioned) it was probably the most awesome performance of a song I can remember.  And that gave immeasurable impetus to the whole divestment campaign which ultimately played a huge factor in pushing the government to abandon Apartheid, legalize the ANC, disband the 'Bantu homelands', release Nelson Mandela, and restore full human rights to blacks.
Title: 1 May 2006 -- a "classic" from 1980
Post by: mshray on May 01, 2006, 11:47:58 AM
Quote from: "urth"
Mark, what data can you give us on that? What are the most common years for classic sets?
 


Quote from: "RGMike"

But it does seem that Classics tend to be '80s/'90s (especially when dave's only gone a day or 2), and we've joked before that Dave does it deliberately so that he doesn't have to hear Crowded House etc.


Here's the data for the last 24 months, adding in the previous discontinuous parts of the archive stuff would weaken the statistical relevance.  

But first, there's No Way Dave tries to avoid playing or listening to Crowded House (I wish!).  It's quite the opposite.

That being said there are 48 year-specific classics* covering exactly 24 chart years over the last 24 months.  So we should've heard each year twice & it works out pretty close to that, at least in terms of Standard Deviation.

1968 - 2
1969 - 1
1970 - 0
1971 - 1
1972 - 2
1973 - 2
1974 - 2
1975 - 3
1976 - 4
1977 - 2
1978 - 1
1979 - 0
1980 - 3
1981 - 3
1982 - 3
1983 - 3
1984 - 1
1985 - 3
1986 - 0
1987 - 2
1988 - 3
1989 - 2
1990 - 3
1991 - 2

*there was also a classic Labor Day set & a classic Summer's Here set.
Title: 1 May 2006 -- a "classic" from 1980
Post by: urth on May 01, 2006, 05:28:11 PM
5/1/2006 - Monday...Today's 10@10 "Classic" is from...1980!!
 
1.  Queen - Crazy Little Thing Called Love  
2.  Pretenders - Up The Neck  
3.  Police - Voices Inside My Head  
4.  Stones - She's So Cold  
5.  Blondie - Atomic  
6.  Jimmy Buffett - Volcano  
7.  Talking Heads - Houses In Motion (BEST OF SET!!)  
8.  Stephanie Mills - Never Knew Love Like This Before  
9.  Tom Petty - Shadow Of A Doubt  
10.  Peter Gabriel - Biko  
 
BONUS TRACK:  Ramones - Rock & Roll High School
Title: 1 May 2006 -- a "classic" from 1980
Post by: Gazoo on May 01, 2006, 08:59:48 PM
Quote from: "mshray"
If I had a stereo in my truck, I would have gone outside & listen to this at full volume.  This song always chokes me up.  I studied a lot of So. African history & wrote a my Senior thesis paper about Steve Biko.

I would argue that this song was the tipping point in the ulitmate demise of Apartheid.  After he heard this song, Little Steven, who has not only Dutch ancestry but even some distaff cousins in So. Africa, went to see for himself what the situation was like.  He became radicalized & came back to organize the Sun City project.  Which was a key element in the radicalization of Bono & inspired U2 to take off and devote a year to Amnesty Int'l.  They did a concert on that tour which MTV televised, & (as Urth mentioned) it was probably the most awesome performance of a song I can remember.  And that gave immeasurable impetus to the whole divestment campaign which ultimately played a huge factor in pushing the government to abandon Apartheid, legalize the ANC, disband the 'Bantu homelands', release Nelson Mandela, and restore full human rights to blacks.


This is one of those moments where I ask you if you have literary ambitions.  This is *exactly* the kind of scholarship that the EMP rewards and that the music journalism world needs.  Not to mention the starving readerly public.

So seriously.  Do you want to think about writing something on this order for a music conference or a magazine like Believer or something like that?  I'd really love to see your encapsulations of history published.
Title: tipping point
Post by: ggould on May 01, 2006, 09:07:37 PM
Quote from: "mshray"
If I had a stereo in my truck, I would have gone outside & listen to this at full volume.  This song always chokes me up.  I studied a lot of So. African history & wrote a my Senior thesis paper about Steve Biko.

I would argue that this song was the tipping point in the ulitmate demise of Apartheid.  After he heard this song, Little Steven, who has not only Dutch ancestry but even some distaff cousins in So. Africa, went to see for himself what the situation was like.  He became radicalized & came back to organize the Sun City project.  Which was a key element in the radicalization of Bono & inspired U2 to take off and devote a year to Amnesty Int'l.  They did a concert on that tour which MTV televised, & (as Urth mentioned) it was probably the most awesome performance of a song I can remember.  And that gave immeasurable impetus to the whole divestment campaign which ultimately played a huge factor in pushing the government to abandon Apartheid, legalize the ANC, disband the 'Bantu homelands', release Nelson Mandela, and restore full human rights to blacks.

I'm not really disagreeing.  I think your points are well made.  On a musical note, one of the things I remember is that Pink Floyd's "Another Brick in the Wall" caused a real big stir down in the township schools.  It might even have been banned at one point.  Does anyone else remember this?
Title: Re: tipping point
Post by: mshray on May 02, 2006, 08:37:45 AM
Quote from: "ggould"

I'm not really disagreeing.  I think your points are well made.  On a musical note, one of the things I remember is that Pink Floyd's "Another Brick in the Wall" caused a real big stir down in the township schools.  It might even have been banned at one point.  Does anyone else remember this?


Good timing Geoff...

Daily Chronicle
for 05/02

a brief music history

05/02/1980
Pink Floyd's smash hit, 'Another Brick in the Wall', was banned in South Africa as it was felt it might encourage boycotts at black schools.


But the overreaction of the Nationalist government to a Pink Floyd song, while being indicative of the institutionalization of absolute paranoia engendered by apartheid, didn't really have any sort of ripple effect.  Besides, the townships schools had been in pretty continuous open revolt since 1976.  The students began those protests largely because of the influence of Biko & his "Black Consciousness" movement, which in 1977 led to him being arrested, and ultimately beaten to death in jail.  Which led to more protests.

The other half of this is that when Biko died and the government acted like it was no big deal, that was also part of the tipping point.  Biko had been nominated (although not a finalist) for the Nobel peace prize, and the reaction of many in the international diplomacy community, and in particular throughout the British Commonwealth, was that this was finally the sort of thing that couldn't be glossed over.  Every country, inclulding our own on many occasions, a has had rioting that led to massacres (for instance, this is less than 5 years after Wounded Knee), but arresting a guy on the Nobel short list & beating him to death in his cell, well that means you can't really call yourself a civilized country any more.

One of the many things I still hate Reagan for is that when Carter left he was quite a bit more than halfway through getting Mandela out of jail & getting the South Africans out of Namibia (which they had been illlegally occupying in much the same way Israel had no legal mandate for it's occuppied territories), but as soon as Reagan came into the Oval Office he reversed everything and began selling more arms to So. Africa, his excuse being that there were 500 Cubans in Angola.  He also began arming Jonas Savimbi, who had convinced the Republicans that he was a pro-democracy Angolan freedoom fighter (but who had convinced nearly every other Western diplomat who ever met him that he might just be the Devil incarnate. Literally!)  So thanks to Reagan, Namibia suffered under So. African rule for an extra decade, Angola plunged into a bloody civil war from which to this day it still hasn't recovered (Savimbi reneged on every peace deal he ever signed & finally died in combat in 2002), and the anit-apartheid movement was set back by about a decade as well.  

Hope he & Savimbi are enjoying their stay in hell.
Title: 1 May 2006 -- a "classic" from 1980
Post by: mshray on May 06, 2006, 09:43:31 AM
Listening on the marathon replay & this set has been the highlight of the week.  Hard to believe one could ever say that about a an 80's classic, but there it is.
Title: 1 May 2006 -- a "classic" from 1980
Post by: princessofcairo on May 07, 2006, 12:36:14 PM
Quote from: "urth"
BOS4, Biko. One of the most moving live tunes I think I've ever heard.


and one i can enjoy, too, even though it's meant to make me feel like slitting my wrists (or at least something akin to sadness) - as opposed to most of his other songs that aren't meant to, but do, just the same.