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Title: The Drive, 4/19/06: 1986
Post by: RGMike on April 19, 2006, 08:01:46 AM
No expectations when Bob does mid-'80s... but a great start with Eddie and Ronnie, "Take Me Home Tonite".

Be mah little bay-bee...
Title: BOS Jackson Browne
Post by: ggould on April 19, 2006, 08:11:48 AM
"Shape of a Heart"

a gem from the lost years of JB.  You may have heard this too many times, but it's a great example of a story song.  I really see the scene in my head of the hole in the wall, and so on.
Title: The Drive, 4/19/06: 1986
Post by: RGMike on April 19, 2006, 08:17:25 AM
Mmmmm... cheeze for breakfast!  BOS2 (after Eddie & Ronnie) to Mr Bon Jovi, "Livin' on a Prayer".  Ersatz Springsteen at its finest.
Title: The Drive, 4/19/06: 1986
Post by: RGMike on April 19, 2006, 08:26:11 AM
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Mmmmm... cheeze for breakfast!  BOS2 (after Eddie & Ronnie) to Mr Bon Jovi, "Livin' on a Prayer".  Ersatz Springsteen at its finest.


And VHM to the real thing, live Bruce with "Fire", which Gaz was asking about recently.

Oh and also VHM to Pretenders, "Don't Get Me Wrong", one of Chrissie's great pop ditties.
Title: The Drive, 4/19/06: 1986
Post by: mshray on April 19, 2006, 08:34:09 AM
I gotta BOS Iggy, in the late 70's who could have guessed he would reinvent himself into a pop star?

ETA: And a VHM to Clapton, just 'cuz none of the rest of you would.  That's still a great tune.  It was better on the Color of Money soundtrack.

And another VHM to Heart, hard-rock balladry at its cheesy finest.
Title: The Drive, 4/19/06: 1986
Post by: RGMike on April 19, 2006, 08:34:24 AM
The Iggster, he's a wild one all right.
Title: The Drive, 4/19/06: 1986
Post by: RGMike on April 19, 2006, 08:39:17 AM
WOS Heart, "These Dreams". Not quite as bad as the Diane Warren stuff (this one written by Bernie Taupin and Martin Page, hot off "We Built This City") but still dreck.
Title: The Drive, 4/19/06: 1986
Post by: RGMike on April 19, 2006, 08:40:58 AM
and it wouldn't be '86 without Mr Simon.  A pleasantly pleasing set, considering the year. Bob's on a roll this week.
Title: The Drive, 4/19/06: 1986
Post by: mshray on April 19, 2006, 08:41:30 AM
BOS #2 Paul & Ladysmith Black Mambazo.  Wonder why Dave doesn't mine this album with regularity in his '86 sets.
Title: The Drive, 4/19/06: 1986
Post by: mshray on April 19, 2006, 08:43:10 AM
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and it wouldn't be '86 without Mr Simon.  A pleasantly pleasing set, considering the year. Bob's on a roll this week.


Agreed.

This song could be part of a couple of different theme sets, it has an acapella finish, and it has one of the great "na-na-na" bits.
Title: The Drive, 4/19/06: 1986
Post by: RGMike on April 19, 2006, 08:43:26 AM
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BOS #2 Paul & Ladysmith Black Mambazo.  Wonder why Dave doesn't mine this album with regularity in his '86 sets.


I'd like to think it's because KFOG plays the album to death all week long, but that doesn't seem to stop him from running other stuff into the ground. :wink:
Title: The Drive, 4/19/06: 1986
Post by: Gazoo on April 19, 2006, 08:46:54 AM
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BOS #2 Paul & Ladysmith Black Mambazo.  Wonder why Dave doesn't mine this album with regularity in his '86 sets.


Because it's hard to go a day without hearing something from Graceland in the regular KFOG rotation?

That said, I'll be sure to catch this one on the replay.

(And yes, it's a slow day here at Jane.  I've been here two hours and haven't been given any proofs yet.  So I'm reading news, griping about the Voice, and editing my Monkees paper.  Hope you're all well.)
Title: The Drive, 4/19/06: 1986
Post by: Gazoo on April 19, 2006, 08:47:22 AM
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BOS #2 Paul & Ladysmith Black Mambazo.  Wonder why Dave doesn't mine this album with regularity in his '86 sets.


I'd like to think it's because KFOG plays the album to death all week long, but that doesn't seem to stop him from running other stuff into the ground. :wink:


Jinx!
Title: The Drive, 4/19/06: 1986
Post by: mshray on April 19, 2006, 08:48:53 AM
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BOS #2 Paul & Ladysmith Black Mambazo.  Wonder why Dave doesn't mine this album with regularity in his '86 sets.


I'd like to think it's because KFOG plays the album to death all week long, but that doesn't seem to stop him from running other stuff into the ground. :wink:


When I said 'mine' it I meant dig deep.  KFOG only plays maybe three tracks.  F'rinstance they never play the other song with LBM on it nor the one with Los Lobos, which you'd think would fit their demo perfectly.
Title: The Drive, 4/19/06: 1986
Post by: RGMike on April 19, 2006, 08:50:45 AM
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BOS #2 Paul & Ladysmith Black Mambazo.  Wonder why Dave doesn't mine this album with regularity in his '86 sets.


I'd like to think it's because KFOG plays the album to death all week long, but that doesn't seem to stop him from running other stuff into the ground. :wink:


Interesting that Bob mentioned the South African connection, in light of our discussion of Dave Marsh yesterday. Marsh (virtually alone among critics) made a big deal of the fact that Simon had "violated" the boycott of SA by going there to record, and how he should be ashamed of himself etc etc. Never mind that he gave the situation more attention than any nerdy critic ever could, or that he employed a gaggle of South African musicians, some of whom (like Ladysmith BM) ended up with US record deals.
Title: The Drive, 4/19/06: 1986
Post by: mshray on April 19, 2006, 08:59:26 AM
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Interesting that Bob mentioned the South African connection, in light of our discussion of Dave Marsh yesterday. Marsh (virtually alone among critics) made a big deal of the fact that Simon had "violated" the boycott of SA by going there to record, and how he should be ashamed of himself etc etc. Never mind that he gave the situation more attention than any nerdy critic ever could, or that he employed a gaggle of South African musicians, some of whom (like Ladysmith BM) ended up with US record deals.


...and he paid triple scale to every single person on the record down to the  girl that brought them coffee.

...and he started a world tour on which he brought Ladysmith, Miriam Makeba & Hugh Maskela along, and let them tell their stories of Apartheid.

...and every single show ended with a rendition of "Nkosi Sikele Afrika", which was then the ANC anthem, and now is the national anthem of the Rep. of South Africa. A heart-stopping, tears-to-your-eyes performance with about 40 people on stage, virtually all of whom were South African.
Title: The Drive, 4/19/06: 1986
Post by: RGMike on April 19, 2006, 09:14:35 AM
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Interesting that Bob mentioned the South African connection, in light of our discussion of Dave Marsh yesterday. Marsh (virtually alone among critics) made a big deal of the fact that Simon had "violated" the boycott of SA by going there to record, and how he should be ashamed of himself etc etc. Never mind that he gave the situation more attention than any nerdy critic ever could, or that he employed a gaggle of South African musicians, some of whom (like Ladysmith BM) ended up with US record deals.


...and he paid triple scale to every single person on the record down to the  girl that brought them coffee.

...and he started a world tour on which he brought Ladysmith, Miriam Makeba & Hugh Maskela along, and let them tell their stories of Apartheid.

...and every single show ended with a rendition of "Nkosi Sikele Afrika", which was then the ANC anthem, and now is the national anthem of the Rep. of South Africa. A heart-stopping, tears-to-your-eyes performance with about 40 people on stage, virtually all of whom were South African.


Thank you!

And as long as we're Marsh-bashing, it's worth noting that he has always had "issues" with middle-class, college-educated musicians like Simon. He believes (almost to the point of fetishism) that only people from working class backgrounds can make "authentic" rock. You know... like a certain guy from Asbury Park. :wink:

He liked Bob Seger, too, until he started pimpin' for Chevrolet.
Title: Marsh bitch
Post by: ggould on April 19, 2006, 09:17:14 AM
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BOS #2 Paul & Ladysmith Black Mambazo.  Wonder why Dave doesn't mine this album with regularity in his '86 sets.
I'd like to think it's because KFOG plays the album to death all week long, but that doesn't seem to stop him from running other stuff into the ground. :wink:
Interesting that Bob mentioned the South African connection, in light of our discussion of Dave Marsh yesterday. Marsh (virtually alone among critics) made a big deal of the fact that Simon had "violated" the boycott of SA by going there to record, and how he should be ashamed of himself etc etc. Never mind that he gave the situation more attention than any nerdy critic ever could, or that he employed a gaggle of South African musicians, some of whom (like Ladysmith BM) ended up with US record deals.

thank you for reminding me of why I don't like him!  Thanks to Paul, I met his bass player, Bakithi Kumalo, made a bass for him, and found a nice friend.
Title: Re: Marsh bitch
Post by: mshray on April 19, 2006, 09:44:25 AM
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thank you for reminding me of why I don't like him!  Thanks to Paul, I met his bass player, Bakithi Kumalo, made a bass for him, and found a nice friend.


You got to be friends with Bakithi Kumalo!?!?!?  He's awesome, saw him twice with Paul & he slew everybody.  When did you make him a bass?  Maybe I saw him use it in '91?

Geoff you RULE!
Title: The Drive, 4/19/06: 1986
Post by: mshray on April 19, 2006, 09:48:31 AM
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And as long as we're Marsh-bashing.


fwiw, I wasn't Marsh-bashing, but rather setting the record straight on Simon.  Another thing he was criticized for was including Ronstadt on Graceland, she being one of the more prominent performers who DID play Sun City.  And she said it was a mistake & she'd never go back, but do these self-righteous PC critics believe in forgiveness & redemption?  Apparently not.
Title: The Drive, 4/19/06: 1986
Post by: RGMike on April 19, 2006, 09:52:41 AM
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And as long as we're Marsh-bashing.


fwiw, I wasn't Marsh-bashing, but rather setting the record straight on Simon.  Another thing he was criticized for was including Ronstadt on Graceland, she being one of the more prominent performers who DID play Sun City.  And she said it was a mistake & she'd never go back, but do these self-righteous PC critics believe in forgiveness & redemption?  Apparently not.


I was using the royal "we" :wink:   Marsh actually called Ronstadt an "idiot" back then. I wonder if he's changed his tune after her pro-Michael Moore brouhaha.
Title: The Drive, 4/19/06: 1986
Post by: mshray on April 19, 2006, 09:53:57 AM
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I wonder if he's changed his tune after her pro-Michael Moore brouhaha.


Good point!
Title: The Drive, 4/19/06: 1986
Post by: RGMike on April 19, 2006, 11:46:22 AM
Eddie Money (feat. Ronnie Spector)  -  Take Me Home Tonight
Steve Winwood  -  Split Decision
Jackson Browne  -  In the Shape of a Heart
Bon Jovi  -  Living on a Prayer
The Pretenders  -  Don't Get Me Wrong
Bruce Springsteen  -  Fire (live)
Eric Clapton  -  It's in the Way that You Use It
Iggy Pop  -  Real Wild Child
Heart  -  These Dreams
Paul Simon  -  Diamonds on the Soles of Her Shoes