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Title: The Drive, 10/4/05: 1967!
Post by: RGMike on October 04, 2005, 07:57:54 AM
Yay!  Some JA and American Breed are promised.
Title: The Drive, 10/4/05: 1967!
Post by: Gazoo on October 04, 2005, 08:02:54 AM
WOS to "Dear Mr. Fantasy."  Steve's got a great voice and a solid body of work, but this song grates on me, due to (a) the word "snappy," and (b) that silly "oooooohhhh---WAAAAHHHH" bridge that suggests to me they just didn't think of any better transition from verse to verse.
Title: The Drive, 10/4/05: 1967!
Post by: Gazoo on October 04, 2005, 08:06:13 AM
P.S.  What's SW's voice being piped through?  Some kind of phaser?  It strangles his a's and makes him sound like the kid who says "I'm hypoglssshhhemic" while slurping on a lollipop.
Title: Ay Caramba!
Post by: ggould on October 04, 2005, 08:07:39 AM
Quote from: "Gazoo"
WOS to "Dear Mr. Fantasy."  Steve's got a great voice and a solid body of work, but this song grates on me, due to (a) the word "snappy," and (b) that silly "oooooohhhh---WAAAAHHHH" bridge that suggests to me they just didn't think of any better transition from verse to verse.

Revisionist alert!  Revisionist alert!  Cranky pants early in the AM!
Title: The Drive, 10/4/05: 1967!
Post by: Gazoo on October 04, 2005, 08:07:39 AM
BUT!  Lest you think I've got the crankpants on -- wait a second! -- it's BOS1 to Tommy James's "Mirage."  What a lovely little tune; I wish people still wrote stuff like this.  Maybe the Click Five do, I'm not patient enough with their image to find out.
Title: The Drive, 10/4/05: 1967!
Post by: RGMike on October 04, 2005, 08:09:21 AM
Quote from: "Gazoo"
BUT!  Lest you think I've got the crankpants on -- wait a second! -- it's BOS1 to Tommy James's "Mirage."  What a lovely little tune; I wish people still wrote stuff like this.  Maybe the Click Five do, I'm not patient enough with their image to find out.


Agreed, great tune, and quite similar to Wind's "Make Believe" a couple years later, which was even later covered by Joan Jett.
Title: The Drive, 10/4/05: 1967!
Post by: Gazoo on October 04, 2005, 08:10:37 AM
Quote from: "RGMike"
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BUT!  Lest you think I've got the crankpants on -- wait a second! -- it's BOS1 to Tommy James's "Mirage."  What a lovely little tune; I wish people still wrote stuff like this.  Maybe the Click Five do, I'm not patient enough with their image to find out.


Agreed, great tune, and quite similar to Wind's "Make Believe" a couple years later, which was even later covered by Joan Jett.


Thanks for reminding me of that one!  I've heard it exactly once in my life.  Loved it, haven't seen or heard it since.

BOS2 to the JA, natch.  As overplayed as the record's undeniably been over the years, it's still a searing hot knife.
Title: Re: Ay Carumba!
Post by: mshray on October 04, 2005, 08:12:06 AM
Spanish crankypants over here:  it's c-a-r-a-m-b-a, not c-a-r-u-m-b-a.
Title: The Drive, 10/4/05: 1967!
Post by: Gazoo on October 04, 2005, 08:13:14 AM
The BOS to end all BOSes in a fab set: (pause 9 beats) "Bernadette!"
Title: The Drive, 10/4/05: 1967!
Post by: mshray on October 04, 2005, 08:14:23 AM
I can't quantify it, and maybe Gaz or Geoff can, but of late I have been really getting into the Garage Rock sound, and there's something about the guitars on "Somebody To Love" that fits right in with the whole Nuggets compilation.
Title: The Drive, 10/4/05: 1967!
Post by: Gazoo on October 04, 2005, 08:14:29 AM
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The BOS to end all BOSes in a fab set: (pause 9 beats) "Bernadette!"


With special love to James Jamerson on the bass, of course.
Title: The Drive, 10/4/05: 1967!
Post by: RGMike on October 04, 2005, 08:14:34 AM
Quote from: "Gazoo"
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Quote from: "Gazoo"
BUT!  Lest you think I've got the crankpants on -- wait a second! -- it's BOS1 to Tommy James's "Mirage."  What a lovely little tune; I wish people still wrote stuff like this.  Maybe the Click Five do, I'm not patient enough with their image to find out.


Agreed, great tune, and quite similar to Wind's "Make Believe" a couple years later, which was even later covered by Joan Jett.


Thanks for reminding me of that one!  I've heard it exactly once in my life.  Loved it, haven't seen or heard it since.

BOS2 to the JA, natch.  As overplayed as the record's undeniably been over the years, it's still a searing hot knife.


Little Steven played the Joan Jett version a few weeks back (It's a Kenny Laguna composition, maybe?) amd the original used to turn up on Dick Bartley occasionally.

Re: "STL"... why would one's mind be "full of bread"? (at one time I thought she was saying "your mind is a thoroughbred" LOL!)
Title: The Drive, 10/4/05: 1967!
Post by: Gazoo on October 04, 2005, 08:15:53 AM
Quote from: "mshray"
I can't quantify it, and maybe Gaz or Geoff can, but of late I have been really getting into the Garage Rock sound, and there's something about the guitars on "Somebody To Love" that fits right in with the whole Nuggets compilation.

I can't articulate equipment, but I'll urge you to listen to the Airplane's After Bathing at Baxter's album, which pretty well sums up the "sound."
Title: The Drive, 10/4/05: 1967!
Post by: RGMike on October 04, 2005, 08:17:52 AM
Awwww... "She's Leaving Home". VHM Paulie Beatle.  Love the Billy Bragg cover, Dave really should have that Sgt Pepper Knew My Father LP in 10@10 rotation.
Title: The Drive, 10/4/05: 1967!
Post by: Gazoo on October 04, 2005, 08:20:02 AM
A gripe: The line "fun is the one thing that money can't buy" has always bothered me.  It's quite easy to buy fun!  Why they didn't use the word "love" there always puzzled me.
Title: The Drive, 10/4/05: 1967!
Post by: Gazoo on October 04, 2005, 08:20:39 AM
Quote from: "RGMike"
Awwww... "She's Leaving Home". VHM Paulie Beatle.  Love the Billy Bragg cover

Bragg's only UK #1 hit, for those feeling trivial today.
Title: The Drive, 10/4/05: 1967!
Post by: RGMike on October 04, 2005, 08:21:36 AM
Quote from: "Gazoo"
A gripe: The line "fun is the one thing that money can't buy" has always bothered me.  It's quite easy to buy fun!  Why they didn't use the word "love" there always puzzled me.


Good point. Tho' Donald Trump would tell you love can be bought too :wink:

BOS2 Ms Ronstadt & her Stoned Ponies, major props to songwriter Nesmith of course.
Title: The Drive, 10/4/05: 1967!
Post by: RGMike on October 04, 2005, 08:23:55 AM
VHM "Hey Joe". Jimi goes gangsta before it even existed.
Title: guitar sound
Post by: ggould on October 04, 2005, 08:25:04 AM
Quote from: "mshray"
I can't quantify it, and maybe Gaz or Geoff can, but of late I have been really getting into the Garage Rock sound, and there's something about the guitars on "Somebody To Love" that fits right in with the whole Nuggets compilation.

The sound was very raw, and unvarnished back then.  Half percussion almost!
Title: The Drive, 10/4/05: 1967!
Post by: Gazoo on October 04, 2005, 08:27:07 AM
Quote from: "RGMike"
Quote from: "Gazoo"
A gripe: The line "fun is the one thing that money can't buy" has always bothered me.  It's quite easy to buy fun!  Why they didn't use the word "love" there always puzzled me.


Good point. Tho' Donald Trump would tell you love can be bought too :wink:

BOS2 Ms Ronstadt & her Stoned Ponies, major props to songwriter Nesmith of course.


Not to be outdone, props to Micky (and Boyce & Hart; they were hacks much of the time but they were genuinely inspired here).
Title: The Drive, 10/4/05: 1967!
Post by: RGMike on October 04, 2005, 08:27:36 AM
Woo Hoo! "Steppin Stone"!  BOS3!  another song memorably covered years later, by the Untouchables.
Title: The Drive, 10/4/05: 1967!
Post by: mshray on October 04, 2005, 08:28:46 AM
Quote from: "RGMike"
Woo Hoo! "Steppin Stone"!  BOS3!  another song memorably covered years later, by the Untouchables.


Ditto on all counts.  Maybe Ginger will play some Untouchables someday, nobody else seems to.
Title: The Drive, 10/4/05: 1967!
Post by: Gazoo on October 04, 2005, 08:30:02 AM
Ahh, one of my favorite horn charts ever, "Bend Me, Shape Me."  The handclaps are a perfect touch as well.  No big surprises or breakouts in this set but a canny collection of some of my utter faves of the year.  Thanks, Bob!
Title: The Drive, 10/4/05: 1967!
Post by: Gazoo on October 04, 2005, 08:31:52 AM
Oh yeah, it wouldn't be '67 in Chi-Town without the Buckinghams or the Cryan' Shames ...
Title: The Drive, 10/4/05: 1967!
Post by: RGMike on October 04, 2005, 08:34:01 AM
Quote from: "Gazoo"
Oh yeah, it wouldn't be '67 in Chi-Town without the Buckinghams or the Cryan' Shames ...


it made us feel so groovy...

James William Guercio rules!
Title: The Drive, 10/4/05: 1967!
Post by: mshray on October 04, 2005, 08:34:32 AM
Quote from: "Gazoo"
Oh yeah, it wouldn't be '67 in Chi-Town without the Buckinghams or the Cryan' Shames ...


and pretty much only in '67 could one get away with:

....it made us feel so groovy,
we fell in love, just like in the movies.
Title: The Drive, 10/4/05: 1967!
Post by: RGMike on October 04, 2005, 08:37:12 AM
Quote from: "mshray"
Quote from: "Gazoo"
Oh yeah, it wouldn't be '67 in Chi-Town without the Buckinghams or the Cryan' Shames ...


and pretty much only in '67 could one get away with:

....it made us feel so groovy,
we fell in love, just like in the movies.


Groovy JINX!

Indeed, as a silly, overused "hip" word that went mainstream, "groovy" has been surpassed only by "hella". And maybe "bling".
Title: The Drive, 10/4/05: 1967!
Post by: urth on October 04, 2005, 09:36:37 AM
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Re: "STL"... why would one's mind be "full of bread"? (at one time I thought she was saying "your mind is a thoroughbred" LOL!)


I think Snoop Dogg restated that line a few decades later:

"I got my mind on my money and my money on my mind."
Title: The Drive, 10/4/05: 1967!
Post by: RGMike on October 04, 2005, 09:41:06 AM
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Re: "STL"... why would one's mind be "full of bread"? (at one time I thought she was saying "your mind is a thoroughbred" LOL!)


I think Snoop Dogg restated that line a few decades later:

"I got my mind on my money and my money on my mind."


LOL!

and pre-JA, the Beach Boys said

"I'm a real cool head
I'm makin' real good bread"
Title: The Drive, 10/4/05: 1967!
Post by: mshray on October 05, 2005, 09:29:24 AM
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Re: "STL"... why would one's mind be "full of bread"? (at one time I thought she was saying "your mind is a thoroughbred" LOL!)


I think Snoop Dogg restated that line a few decades later:

"I got my mind on my money and my money on my mind."


I always thought it was "...full of dread..." which, you know, actually makes sense, right?

mshray, who is still holding his coat & tie apart.
Title: The Drive, 10/4/05: 1967!
Post by: RGMike on October 05, 2005, 09:43:36 AM
Quote from: "mshray"
I always thought it was "...full of dread..." which, you know, actually makes sense, right?


yes! I used to think that too (after I gave up on "thoroughbred") ... the Top 40 db has it as "bread" and a number of other lyric sites have it as "full of red" (?).
Title: full of it
Post by: ggould on October 05, 2005, 11:50:21 AM
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I always thought it was "...full of dread..." which, you know, actually makes sense, right?
yes! I used to think that too (after I gave up on "thoroughbred") ... the Top 40 db has it as "bread" and a number of other lyric sites have it as "full of red" (?).

I always heard "full of bread" too!