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Title: Tues October 25--it's 1980
Post by: urth on October 25, 2005, 10:02:20 AM
And starting with Tunnel of Love. Wonder if we'll hear anything from The River? And cue the John Lennon clip.
Title: Tues October 25--it's 1980
Post by: Alicat on October 25, 2005, 10:03:57 AM
BOS, TOTHC Knopfler works for me. Let the cube dancing commence.
Title: Re: Tues October 25--it's 1980
Post by: RGMike on October 25, 2005, 10:04:14 AM
Quote from: "urth"
And starting with Tunnel of Love. Wonder if we'll hear anything from The River? And cue the John Lennon clip.


I predict your predictions come true.  Early BOS for "Tunnel of Love", HM to Mr Knopfler's nod to Rodgers & Hammerstein..
Title: Re: Tues October 25--it's 1980
Post by: Gazoo on October 25, 2005, 10:04:32 AM
Quote from: "urth"
And starting with Tunnel of Love. Wonder if we'll hear anything from The River? And cue the John Lennon clip.


You mean the one of Howard Cosell announcing his murder on MNF?

P.S.  What distinguishes a "murder" from an "assassination"?  Does the latter necessarily imply political office?
Title: Re: Tues October 25--it's 1980
Post by: mshray on October 25, 2005, 10:04:33 AM
Quote from: "urth"
And starting with Tunnel of Love. Wonder if we'll hear anything from The River? And cue the John Lennon clip.


She said, "You are the Perfect Stranger."
And she said, "Baby, let's keep it like this."
Title: Re: Tues October 25--it's 1980
Post by: mshray on October 25, 2005, 10:06:14 AM
Quote from: "Gazoo"
Quote from: "urth"
And starting with Tunnel of Love. Wonder if we'll hear anything from The River? And cue the John Lennon clip.


You mean the one of Howard Cosell announcing his murder on MNF?

P.S.  What distinguishes a "murder" from an "assassination"?  Does the latter necessarily imply political office?


It necessarily implies a politically charged motive, as opposed to a more simple murder for economic profit.

ETA:  If Lennon had been a visible spokesman for some cause that Mark David Chapman had been opposed to, then it could have been called an assassination.  But if the killer is hearing voices that is generally ruled out.
Title: Tues October 25--it's 1980
Post by: Alicat on October 25, 2005, 10:09:41 AM
Quote from: "Alicat"
BOS, TOTHC Knopfler works for me. Let the cube dancing commence.

Taking me back to the recent Mtn. Winery show. I feel very fortunate to have world class venues so close to home and wonderful artists that come to the Bay Area to play for us.
Thank you Mr. Knopfler!
Title: Re: Tues October 25--it's 1980
Post by: urth on October 25, 2005, 10:09:55 AM
Quote from: "Gazoo"
Quote from: "urth"
And starting with Tunnel of Love. Wonder if we'll hear anything from The River? And cue the John Lennon clip.


You mean the one of Howard Cosell announcing his murder on MNF?


Yeah, that one.

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P.S.  What distinguishes a "murder" from an "assassination"?  Does the latter necessarily imply political office?


I think to be assassinated you have to be a fairly prominent public figure. Politicians and Beatles qualify, in my book.
Title: Re: Tues October 25--it's 1980
Post by: RGMike on October 25, 2005, 10:10:44 AM
Quote from: "Gazoo"
Quote from: "urth"
And starting with Tunnel of Love. Wonder if we'll hear anything from The River? And cue the John Lennon clip.


You mean the one of Howard Cosell announcing his murder on MNF?


Dave has many Lennon clips in his library... any one will do.
Title: Tues October 25--it's 1980
Post by: Gazoo on October 25, 2005, 10:10:45 AM
Adlai Stevenson was a force to be reckoned with in 1980?  I thought no one went madly for Adlai after 1957?
Title: Tues October 25--it's 1980
Post by: RGMike on October 25, 2005, 10:11:33 AM
Quote from: "Gazoo"
Adlai Stevenson was a force to be reckoned with in 1980?  I thought no one went madly for Adlai after 1957?


Huh?
Title: Re: Tues October 25--it's 1980
Post by: Lightnin' Rod on October 25, 2005, 10:12:17 AM
Quote from: "Gazoo"
Quote from: "urth"
And starting with Tunnel of Love. Wonder if we'll hear anything from The River? And cue the John Lennon clip.


You mean the one of Howard Cosell announcing his murder on MNF?

P.S.  What distinguishes a "murder" from an "assassination"?  Does the latter necessarily imply political office?


I recently read something somewhere discussing this very topic.  Unfortunately, the I read so many things on the web these days that I can't remember for certain where I read it.

Assassination happens to important people (MLK was assasinated, though he didn't hold public office).  Murder happens to average people (almost wrote "average joes" until I realized whom I was replying too).  Random deaths happen to poor people.
Title: Tues October 25--it's 1980
Post by: Gazoo on October 25, 2005, 10:12:29 AM
Quote from: "Alicat"
Quote from: "Alicat"
BOS, TOTHC Knopfler works for me. Let the cube dancing commence.

Taking me back to the recent Mtn. Winery show. I feel very fortunate to have world class venues so close to home and wonderful artists that come to the Bay Area to play for us.
Thank you Mr. Knopfler!

Very good point, Ali - thanks for reminding us all.   :D
Title: Tues October 25--it's 1980
Post by: RGMike on October 25, 2005, 10:13:15 AM
BOS2 "Stop Your Sobbin'".  May have to elevate this above the Straits tune. Best way to meet your dream man: record one of his songs.
Title: Tues October 25--it's 1980
Post by: mshray on October 25, 2005, 10:13:22 AM
3 songs in and it's all good to very good.  Keeping my fingers crossed.




But not holding my breath.
Title: Tues October 25--it's 1980
Post by: Gazoo on October 25, 2005, 10:13:32 AM
Quote from: "RGMike"
Quote from: "Gazoo"
Adlai Stevenson was a force to be reckoned with in 1980?  I thought no one went madly for Adlai after 1957?


Huh?

Did I completely mishear a news clip that I thought was about Adlai?  I'm listening while reading, so maybe I completely missed the mark here.
Title: Tues October 25--it's 1980
Post by: mshray on October 25, 2005, 10:14:09 AM
Quote from: "RGMike"
BOS2 "Stop Your Sobbin'".  May have to elevate this above the Straits tune. Best way to meet your dream man: record one of his songs.


I had the EXACT same thought, but couldn't type fast enough to get the Jinx in.
Title: Tues October 25--it's 1980
Post by: urth on October 25, 2005, 10:14:17 AM
Second U2 song in two days. Could this have something to do with their two upcoming shows not being sold out?

I'd expect we'll start hearing more Rolling Stones cuts in a week or two, same reason.
Title: Tues October 25--it's 1980
Post by: Gazoo on October 25, 2005, 10:14:22 AM
Quote from: "RGMike"
BOS2 "Stop Your Sobbin'".  May have to elevate this above the Straits tune. Best way to meet your dream man: record one of his songs.

Worked for Arthur Conley!
Title: Tues October 25--it's 1980
Post by: Alicat on October 25, 2005, 10:17:51 AM
Yay, Beatle.
Soothing melody
Title: Re: Tues October 25--it's 1980
Post by: Lightnin' Rod on October 25, 2005, 10:18:13 AM
Quote from: "Rod"
Quote from: "Gazoo"
Quote from: "urth"
And starting with Tunnel of Love. Wonder if we'll hear anything from The River? And cue the John Lennon clip.


You mean the one of Howard Cosell announcing his murder on MNF?

P.S.  What distinguishes a "murder" from an "assassination"?  Does the latter necessarily imply political office?


I recently read something somewhere discussing this very topic.  Unfortunately, the I read so many things on the web these days that I can't remember for certain where I read it.

Assassination happens to important people (MLK was assasinated, though he didn't hold public office).  Murder happens to average people (almost wrote "average joes" until I realized whom I was replying too).  Random deaths happen to poor people.


Found it -- from Paula, on tribe.net
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Death, language and its relationship to class.   Tue, October 18, 2005 - 7:42 AM
I was listening to NPR this morning, or at least half listening and in my random morning fog I heard a report on an assassination attempt on Sadam Hussein. To be frank I'm not sure if it is something current or a discussion on a past attempt, but I thought to myself 'Well he's not a leader anymore so wouldn't it be a murder attempt?'

This got me thinking. An assassination is 'To murder (a prominent person) by surprise attack, as for political reasons.' What makes one prominent? Why is it that a mayor is assassinated, the wife of a lawyer is murdered, and a resident of a housing project might have been killed or may have died from gun shot wounds?

It may be that this rhetorical resident was in fact a major obstacle in the way of some drug dealer because she would call the police when witnessing a deal or she would rally the other residents to begin a neighborhood watch program. To these locals, she might have a greater affect than a foreign leader, yet if the dealer plotted to end her life, she might be reported as having been killed rather than assassinated.

Just a thought.
Title: Re: Tues October 25--it's 1980
Post by: mshray on October 25, 2005, 10:18:23 AM
Quote from: "Rod"
Quote from: "Gazoo"
Quote from: "urth"
And starting with Tunnel of Love. Wonder if we'll hear anything from The River? And cue the John Lennon clip.


You mean the one of Howard Cosell announcing his murder on MNF?

P.S.  What distinguishes a "murder" from an "assassination"?  Does the latter necessarily imply political office?


I recently read something somewhere discussing this very topic.  Unfortunately, the I read so many things on the web these days that I can't remember for certain where I read it.

Assassination happens to important people (MLK was assasinated, though he didn't hold public office).  Murder happens to average people (almost wrote "average joes" until I realized whom I was replying too).  Random deaths happen to poor people.


It used to be true that you couldn't be assassinated unless an actual assassin (i.e. trained professional) killed you.  But it would have been interesting to see what they would have said if John Hinckley Jr.  had succeeded.  Cuz that boy was nuts.

It would also have been intersting to see what would have happened if we only got as much out of Reagan as we got out of Harding.  Maybe there's a parallel universe where that is true & someday I can go there.
Title: Tues October 25--it's 1980
Post by: RGMike on October 25, 2005, 10:18:25 AM
Quote from: "Gazoo"
Quote from: "RGMike"
BOS2 "Stop Your Sobbin'".  May have to elevate this above the Straits tune. Best way to meet your dream man: record one of his songs.

Worked for Arthur Conley!


ROTFLSHIPMP!
Title: Tues October 25--it's 1980
Post by: Alicat on October 25, 2005, 10:18:30 AM
Quote from: "urth"
Second U2 song in two days. Could this have something to do with their two upcoming shows not being sold out?

I'd expect we'll start hearing more Rolling Stones cuts in a week or two, same reason.

I'd rather hear Metallica.
Title: Tues October 25--it's 1980
Post by: mshray on October 25, 2005, 10:21:02 AM
BOS #3 Jeff Beck.  And my top pick so far.


Not a bad set if halfway thru Lennon is the weakest tune/biggest Katrina.
Title: Tues October 25--it's 1980
Post by: princessofcairo on October 25, 2005, 10:21:12 AM
a bos for me! is it jeff beck?
Title: Re: Tues October 25--it's 1980
Post by: RGMike on October 25, 2005, 10:21:57 AM
Quote from: "mshray"
It would also have been intersting to see what would have happedened if We only got as much out of Reagan as we got out of Harding.  Maybe there's a parallel universe where that is true & someday I can go there.


Well, we'd've gotten Bush One 8 years sooner. Whether he'd've gotten re-elected in '84, I dunno.
Title: Tues October 25--it's 1980
Post by: urth on October 25, 2005, 10:21:58 AM
Quote from: "princessofcairo"
a bos for me! is it jeff beck?


Me three. It is indeed--Star Cycle, I think.
Title: Tues October 25--it's 1980
Post by: mshray on October 25, 2005, 10:24:07 AM
Quote from: "princessofcairo"
a bos for me! is it jeff beck?


Yes, from There & Back, which I still have on a cassette I made my freshman year in college in 1980, the flip side of which is Gaucho.  Makes for a great listen on an auto-reverse deck.
Title: Tues October 25--it's 1980
Post by: RGMike on October 25, 2005, 10:24:15 AM
Quote from: "urth"
Second U2 song in two days. Could this have something to do with their two upcoming shows not being sold out?

I'd expect we'll start hearing more Rolling Stones cuts in a week or two, same reason.


Little Steven on Sunday nite:

"People laughed when I said 'if the Stones were starting out today, radio wouldn't play them'.  And then a good new Stones album came out and... nobody's playing it."
Title: Tues October 25--it's 1980
Post by: Lightnin' Rod on October 25, 2005, 10:25:30 AM
Quote from: "princessofcairo"
a bos for me! is it jeff beck?


With Jan Hammer.

BOS of a pretty fine '80 set so far.
Title: Tues October 25--it's 1980
Post by: Gazoo on October 25, 2005, 10:26:28 AM
Look!  Up in the sky!  It's a Doobie!  No, it's a Dupree!  No -- it's the Pointer Sisters!  HM just for the surprise.
Title: Tues October 25--it's 1980
Post by: princessofcairo on October 25, 2005, 10:26:29 AM
oooohhhh, jeff will have to split the vote with the pointer sisters!
Title: Tues October 25--it's 1980
Post by: RGMike on October 25, 2005, 10:27:18 AM
OMG! BOS3 to the Pointers channelling the Doobies. Is this a breakout? Kudos, Dave!  There WERE black folks in the Top 40 in 1980 after all!

ETA: I emailed Dave to say this makes up for Color Me Badd.
Title: Tues October 25--it's 1980
Post by: princessofcairo on October 25, 2005, 10:30:10 AM
Quote from: "RGMike"


ETA: I emailed Dave to say this makes up for Color Me Badd.


ha! good on you! vhm to squeeze!
Title: Tues October 25--it's 1980
Post by: Gazoo on October 25, 2005, 10:30:11 AM
We're getting a lot more early Squeeze on all the shows lately (or is it just me?).  I remember Dave used to trot this stuff out a LOT, rarely does any more.  BOS to "Pulling Mussels From a Shell" just for those subtle harmonies on the lead-in to the refrain.  Which one of them has the low-buzz-hum vocal technique?
Title: Tues October 25--it's 1980
Post by: RGMike on October 25, 2005, 10:31:25 AM
VHM Squeeze for rhyming "Waikiki" with "creepy".

I had a friend named Michelle who thought this was called "Pulling Muscles for Michelle".
Title: Tues October 25--it's 1980
Post by: urth on October 25, 2005, 10:32:21 AM
Quote from: "Gazoo"
We're getting a lot more early Squeeze on all the shows lately (or is it just me?).  I remember Dave used to trot this stuff out a LOT, rarely does any more.  BOS to "Pulling Mussels From a Shell" just for those subtle harmonies on the lead-in to the refrain.  Which one of them has the low-buzz-hum vocal technique?


Chris Difford, I think. Tilbrook is the higher, poppier voice singing lead.
Title: Tues October 25--it's 1980
Post by: Alicat on October 25, 2005, 10:32:46 AM
Quote from: "RGMike"
"Pulling Muscles for Michelle".

Could be a porn flick.
Title: Re: Tues October 25--it's 1980
Post by: Gazoo on October 25, 2005, 10:32:48 AM
Quote from: "mshray"
But it would have been interesting to see what they would have said if John Hinckley Jr.  had succeeded.  Cuz that boy was nuts.


Was he?  I thought the consensus was that he's been faking it all this time in order to have an easier quasi-prison life.  That said, take me with you if you find that alternate universe!  And Rod, thanks for posting that bit on the relationship of language to class -- that's been a meta-interest of mine for some time.
Title: Tues October 25--it's 1980
Post by: princessofcairo on October 25, 2005, 10:33:40 AM
is this narada michael walden again? don't forget he's appearing at the chet helms thingy on sunday! who's going?
Title: Tues October 25--it's 1980
Post by: Gazoo on October 25, 2005, 10:33:51 AM
Gimme an N!

Gimme an A!

Gimme an R!

Gimme an A!

Gimme a D!

Gimme an A!

What's it spell?!
Title: Tues October 25--it's 1980
Post by: RGMike on October 25, 2005, 10:34:23 AM
Help! My stream has fallen and it can't get up!  Anybody else lose it?
Title: Tues October 25--it's 1980
Post by: Alicat on October 25, 2005, 10:34:36 AM
My player keeps cutting out.
Yay Narada.
This brings back the year!
Title: Tues October 25--it's 1980
Post by: Alicat on October 25, 2005, 10:35:24 AM
Quote from: "princessofcairo"
is this narada michael walden again? don't forget he's appearing at the chet helms thingy on sunday! who's going?

Want to meet me up there?
Title: Tues October 25--it's 1980
Post by: princessofcairo on October 25, 2005, 10:35:36 AM
Quote from: "RGMike"
Help! My stream has fallen and it can't get up!  Anybody else lose it?


yup - i switched to my walkman.
Title: Tues October 25--it's 1980
Post by: mshray on October 25, 2005, 10:36:06 AM
Quote from: "Rod"
Quote from: "princessofcairo"
a bos for me! is it jeff beck?


With Jan Hammer.

BOS of a pretty fine '80 set so far.


So I guess Rod, Urth & I all have this album.  Side 1, Track 1.

OOoohhh, another BOS for the clip from Altered States.  Professor Eddie Jessup was William Hurt's first screen role.  Ken Russell directing a Paddy Chayefsky sreenplay.  That's a lot of talent.
Title: Tues October 25--it's 1980
Post by: princessofcairo on October 25, 2005, 10:37:16 AM
Quote from: "Alicat"
Quote from: "princessofcairo"
is this narada michael walden again? don't forget he's appearing at the chet helms thingy on sunday! who's going?

Want to meet me up there?


sure thing! i plan to be there all day...with a little cell-phoning, we'll get there.
Title: Re: Tues October 25--it's 1980
Post by: RGMike on October 25, 2005, 10:38:33 AM
Quote from: "Gazoo"
Quote from: "mshray"
But it would have been interesting to see what they would have said if John Hinckley Jr.  had succeeded.  Cuz that boy was nuts.


Was he?  I thought the consensus was that he's been faking it all this time in order to have an easier quasi-prison life.  


I think the consensus (what with the Jodie Foster obsession & all) is that he wasn't exactly sane. But it being a Presidential assassination attempt, America was outraged that the insanity defense was allowed at all.
Title: Tues October 25--it's 1980
Post by: Gazoo on October 25, 2005, 10:39:17 AM
Quote from: "RGMike"
Help! My stream has fallen and it can't get up!  Anybody else lose it?


Mine cut out, about 10 notes into Narada.  Let me know if I missed anything -- it'd be my luck to miss Dave closing with "Pilot of the Airwaves."
Title: Re: Tues October 25--it's 1980
Post by: princessofcairo on October 25, 2005, 10:39:27 AM
Quote from: "RGMike"

I think the consensus (what with the Jodie Foster obsession & all) is that he wasn't exactly sane. But it being a Presidential assassination attempt, America was outraged that the insanity defense was allowed at all.


not everyone obsessed with jodie foster is insane...  ;)
Title: Tues October 25--it's 1980
Post by: princessofcairo on October 25, 2005, 10:40:39 AM
gary

myrick
lewis & the playboys
numan
moore
wright
glitter
...
Title: Re: Tues October 25--it's 1980
Post by: RGMike on October 25, 2005, 10:41:22 AM
Quote from: "princessofcairo"
Quote from: "RGMike"

I think the consensus (what with the Jodie Foster obsession & all) is that he wasn't exactly sane. But it being a Presidential assassination attempt, America was outraged that the insanity defense was allowed at all.


not everyone obsessed with jodie foster is insane...  ;)


Great Jodie quote in EW, regarding being an aging actress in H'wood: "I want to play all those roles that Simone Signoret played when she got old."
Title: Tues October 25--it's 1980
Post by: urth on October 25, 2005, 10:41:56 AM
Quote from: "mshray"
Quote from: "Rod"
Quote from: "princessofcairo"
a bos for me! is it jeff beck?


With Jan Hammer.

BOS of a pretty fine '80 set so far.


So I guess Rod, Urth & I all have this album.  Side 1, Track 1.



You betcha--prog rock at its finest. Saw Beck and an extremely hot band at the Greek in Sept of 1980. Then saw Yes (with the Buggles subbing for Jon Anderson & Rick Wakeman) the next week, and the Kinks the night after that. Rocktober indeed.
Title: Tues October 25--it's 1980
Post by: princessofcairo on October 25, 2005, 10:42:29 AM
yay! making plans for nigel!
Title: Tues October 25--it's 1980
Post by: mshray on October 25, 2005, 10:42:33 AM
Quote from: "Gazoo"
Gimme an N!

Gimme an A!

Gimme an R!

Gimme an A!

Gimme a D!

Gimme an A!

What's it spell?!


Narada was good, but it's T.M. Stevens that makes this song.  I think we've covered this territory last time, but that was a damn fine bass performance.
Title: Tues October 25--it's 1980
Post by: RGMike on October 25, 2005, 10:44:35 AM
Quote from: "urth"
Rocktober indeed.


remember when every radio station called it "Rocktober"?  Wow, that's a flashback.
Title: Tues October 25--it's 1980
Post by: mshray on October 25, 2005, 10:44:39 AM
Quote from: "princessofcairo"
yay! making plans for nigel!


"Making Plans For Nigel" & "Pulling Mussels From A Shell" are always inextricably linked in my mind.  

Maybe Dave's too.
Title: Tues October 25--it's 1980
Post by: RGMike on October 25, 2005, 10:45:47 AM
Quote from: "mshray"
Quote from: "princessofcairo"
yay! making plans for nigel!


"Making Plans For Nigel" & "Pulling Mussels From A Shell" are always inextricably linked in my mind.  


"Pulling Nigel for Michelle"?
Title: Tues October 25--it's 1980
Post by: mshray on October 25, 2005, 10:47:55 AM
A Clunker-free set.  "Strange but Likeable" sez Dave.

Yo Dave!  Listen to your inner Deejay.  'Strange' is good!  'Normal' is boring!
Title: Tues October 25--it's 1980
Post by: urth on October 25, 2005, 10:49:23 AM
Quote from: "RGMike"
Quote from: "urth"
Rocktober indeed.


remember when every radio station called it "Rocktober"?  Wow, that's a flashback.


It makes sense out here tho, since a lot of the bands that have been touring the east and the midwest all summer finally hit the west coast in October. Still holds true, although this year Sept was as busy.
Title: Tues October 25--it's 1980
Post by: princessofcairo on October 25, 2005, 10:52:40 AM
Quote from: "RGMike"


"Pulling Nigel for Michelle"?


i won't tell you where pottybrain went with that.
Title: Tues October 25--it's 1980
Post by: RGMike on October 25, 2005, 10:56:11 AM
Quote from: "mshray"
A Clunker-free set.  "Strange but Likeable" sez Dave.

Yo Dave!  Listen to your inner Deejay.  'Strange' is good!  'Normal' is boring!


Ay-MEN, brotha!
Title: the setlist
Post by: urth on October 27, 2005, 11:00:48 PM
10/25/05 - Tuesday!  Has it really been 25 years???  1980!!!

Dire Straits - Tunnel of Love
Pretenders - Stop Your Sobbing
U2 - I Will Follow
John Lennon - Watching the Wheels
Jeff Beck (with Jan Hammer) - Star Cycle (B-O-S!!!)
Pointer Sisters - He's So Shy
Squeeze - Pulling Mussels (From the Shell)
Narada Michael Walden - I Shoulda Loved You
Gary Myrick & the Figures - She Talks in Stereo
XTC - Making Plans For Nigel
MOVIE:  Altered States

BONUS TRACK:  Joy Division - Love Will Tear Us Apart