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Title: Campaign 2012
Post by: RGMike on September 09, 2011, 02:25:01 PM
It's never too early. And with all those wacky Repug candidates battling it out already, I figured they (and the prez) dereved their own thread apart from the "Right Wing" and "Left Wing" ones.  To start us off, this bit of Huntsman hilarity:

http://baseballresearcher.blogspot.com/2011/09/jon-huntsman-doesnt-know-baseball.html?spref=fb
Title: Re: Campaign 2012
Post by: Tinka Cat on September 09, 2011, 03:31:25 PM
It's never too early. And with all those wacky Repug candidates battling it out already, I figured they (and the prez) dereved their own thread apart from the "Right Wing" and "Left Wing" ones.  To start us off, this bit of Huntsman hilarity:

http://baseballresearcher.blogspot.com/2011/09/jon-huntsman-doesnt-know-baseball.html?spref=fb

thank you, baseball nerds.  A GOP friend of mine says he likes Huntsman ... but that was before this Glovegate thing broke!   
Title: Re: Campaign 2012
Post by: ggould on September 10, 2011, 05:33:14 PM
It's never too early. And with all those wacky Repug candidates battling it out already, I figured they (and the prez) dereved their own thread apart from the "Right Wing" and "Left Wing" ones.  To start us off, this bit of Huntsman hilarity:

http://baseballresearcher.blogspot.com/2011/09/jon-huntsman-doesnt-know-baseball.html?spref=fb

thank you, baseball nerds.  A GOP friend of mine says he likes Huntsman ... but that was before this Glovegate thing broke!  
If I had a choice, and was told the outcome would be a GOP president, I guess I'd choose Hunstsman, just because he doesn't seem batshit crazy like the rest of them. Jeez, could the stakes be any higher this time?
Title: Re: Campaign 2012
Post by: RGMike on December 19, 2011, 08:28:21 PM
Came home tonite to a robo-call message from "the committee to draft Hilary Clinton for President 2012".  Seriously?
Title: Re: Campaign 2012
Post by: ggould on December 21, 2011, 08:54:20 AM
Came home tonite to a robo-call message from "the committee to draft Hilary Clinton for President 2012".  Seriously?
probably funded by GOP
Title: Re: Campaign 2012
Post by: RGMike on December 29, 2011, 09:45:14 PM
This is just nuts -- remember, these are the same people who crucified the Dixie Chicks for dissing Dubya...

http://www.radio-info.com/programming/country/editorial-artists-cant-even-play-for-the-president-has-it-really-come-to-th
Title: Re: Campaign 2012
Post by: RGMike on January 02, 2012, 05:40:05 PM
My new hero: Ben Mankiewicz.  Watched him for years on TCM (and on that awful incarnation of At the Movies where he was teamed with Ben Lyons in an attempt to skew younger) and never knew what his politics were. But lo, he's turned up on Cenk Uygur's "Young Turks" show on Current as part of the lineup of talking heads and he's quite impressive. Apparently he's been doing stuff with Uygur on radio and internet for some time. News to me!
Title: Re: Campaign 2012
Post by: RGMike on January 03, 2012, 02:31:13 PM
Think You know Iowa? "think again, bitch!" (NSFW)

http://youtu.be/qLZZ6JD0g9Y
Title: Re: Campaign 2012
Post by: RGMike on January 19, 2012, 08:49:11 PM
couple thoughts after the (apparently) successsful (so far) anti-SOPA campaign...

(a) if the Tea Party and OWS can agree on this issue, what's the next step?  Or is there a next step?

(b) I note that many of the folks who suddenly changed their minds (Orrin Hatch, Marco Rubio, Dan Quayle's idiot son) are right-wing Repugs.  Is the GOP more afraid of the Teatards than the Dems are of OWS?
Title: Re: Campaign 2012
Post by: Here'sToYa! on January 19, 2012, 10:49:19 PM
couple thoughts after the (apparently) successsful (so far) anti-SOPA campaign...

(a) if the Tea Party and OWS can agree on this issue, what's the next step?  Or is there a next step?

(b) I note that many of the folks who suddenly changed their minds (Orrin Hatch, Marco Rubio, Dan Quayle's idiot son) are right-wing Repugs.  Is the GOP more afraid of the Teatards than the Dems are of OWS?

My take is that SOPA/PIPA isn't much of a partisan issue, but more of a money issue. Most of the times campaign contributors get the laws and regulations they want without anyone paying much attention. But because of the well-orchestrated publicity campaign, and especially because there are some mega companies on the other side of SOPA/PIPA, congresspeople got caught trying to push through their special interest BS and had to back away.
Title: Re: Campaign 2012
Post by: RGMike on January 30, 2012, 03:45:30 PM
"Eye" of Newt?  Gingrich sued by the band Survivor:

http://blog.sfgate.com/hottopics/2012/01/30/newt-gingrich-sued-for-playing-%e2%80%98eye-of-the-tiger%e2%80%99-without-permission/?tsp=1
Title: Re: Campaign 2012
Post by: RGMike on February 03, 2012, 09:26:37 AM
And yet another artist sues yet another GOP hopeful for using a song without permission. But seriously -- thie idea of Mitt Romney using this particular tune is beyond hilarious. Another case (like Reagan using "Born in the USA") where a staffer heard the title and thought it sounded patriotic but didn't bother to actually, y'know... LISTEN TO THE SONG.  Sample lyric: "So many wars, settling scores/Bringing us promises, leaving us poor" Oh yeah, I bet Mitt can get right behind that...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amXeJrA-wDc
Title: Re: Campaign 2012
Post by: RGMike on February 07, 2012, 09:08:05 AM
an interesting riff on Mitt:

http://nymag.com/news/intelligencer/mitt-romney-muttonheads-2012-2/
Title: Re: Campaign 2012
Post by: Big Fingers McGee on February 09, 2012, 09:46:49 AM
Ya know, as much as I hate Newt, it's Santorum that really scares me. He's W without a sense of humor. And I mean that literally.
Title: Re: Campaign 2012
Post by: RGMike on February 09, 2012, 09:53:48 AM
Ya know, as much as I hate Newt, it's Santorum that really scares me. He's W without a sense of humor. And I mean that literally.

yeah -- Newt for better or worse has had a lot of his moral shortcomings exposed for all to see. Santorum strikes me as another guy who has deep dark secrets. As most folks who can't shut up about "morality" usually do.
Title: Re: Campaign 2012
Post by: RGMike on February 28, 2012, 01:10:08 PM
Ya know, as much as I hate Newt, it's Santorum that really scares me. He's W without a sense of humor. And I mean that literally.

yeah -- Newt for better or worse has had a lot of his moral shortcomings exposed for all to see. Santorum strikes me as another guy who has deep dark secrets. As most folks who can't shut up about "morality" usually do.

a great WashPo piece about Santorum. hat tip to DB on FB.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/enough-of-rick-santorums-sermons/2012/02/27/gIQAvUKieR_story.html
Title: Re: Campaign 2012
Post by: Here'sToYa! on February 28, 2012, 03:18:27 PM
Ya know, as much as I hate Newt, it's Santorum that really scares me. He's W without a sense of humor. And I mean that literally.

yeah -- Newt for better or worse has had a lot of his moral shortcomings exposed for all to see. Santorum strikes me as another guy who has deep dark secrets. As most folks who can't shut up about "morality" usually do.

a great WashPo piece about Santorum. hat tip to DB on FB.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/enough-of-rick-santorums-sermons/2012/02/27/gIQAvUKieR_story.html

The Washington Post editorial page has been on an anti-Santorum blitz. I wonder if they want to see Romney in the White House, or if it's the more obvious, don't want to see an unfit President, explanation.
Title: Re: Campaign 2012
Post by: Tinka Cat on February 28, 2012, 03:32:26 PM
Ya know, as much as I hate Newt, it's Santorum that really scares me. He's W without a sense of humor. And I mean that literally.

yeah -- Newt for better or worse has had a lot of his moral shortcomings exposed for all to see. Santorum strikes me as another guy who has deep dark secrets. As most folks who can't shut up about "morality" usually do.

a great WashPo piece about Santorum. hat tip to DB on FB.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/enough-of-rick-santorums-sermons/2012/02/27/gIQAvUKieR_story.html

The Washington Post editorial page has been on an anti-Santorum blitz. I wonder if they want to see Romney in the White House, or if it's the more obvious, don't want to see an unfit President, explanation.

The Washington Post is prob pro-Obama.  They've always been pretty liberal.  The Washington Times is another story, they lean pretty right.
Title: Re: Campaign 2012
Post by: Here'sToYa! on February 28, 2012, 06:35:37 PM
The Washington Post is prob pro-Obama.  They've always been pretty liberal.  The Washington Times is another story, they lean pretty right.

The Times have been a changin' for The Post. They've been tilting rightward for awhile, especially on the editorial page. That's why I'm wondering if they wouldn't mind seeing the Establishment GOP choice Romney eventually end up in the White House, or at least want to avoid the presumed slaughter Santorum would suffer at the hands of Obama. They did endorse Obama in '08, but that was kind of a no-brainer. I realize that Wikipedia is not an authoritative source, but there are lot of sources cited within:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Washington_Post#Political_stance
Title: Re: Campaign 2012
Post by: Here'sToYa! on February 28, 2012, 06:40:49 PM
The Washington Post is prob pro-Obama.  They've always been pretty liberal.  The Washington Times is another story, they lean pretty right.

The Times have been a changin' for The Post. They've been tilting rightward for awhile, especially on the editorial page. That's why I'm wondering if they wouldn't mind seeing the Establishment GOP choice Romney eventually end up in the White House, or at least want to avoid the presumed slaughter Santorum would suffer at the hands of Obama. They did endorse Obama in '08, but that was kind of a no-brainer. I realize that Wikipedia is not an authoritative source, but there are lot of sources cited within:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Washington_Post#Political_stance

Salon.com which is reputed to have a decidedly liberal bent seems to view the Post as predominantly right wing:

http://www.salon.com/2009/11/06/washington_post_6/
Title: Re: Campaign 2012
Post by: Tinka Cat on February 29, 2012, 05:25:03 PM
The Washington Post is prob pro-Obama.  They've always been pretty liberal.  The Washington Times is another story, they lean pretty right.

The Times have been a changin' for The Post. They've been tilting rightward for awhile, especially on the editorial page. That's why I'm wondering if they wouldn't mind seeing the Establishment GOP choice Romney eventually end up in the White House, or at least want to avoid the presumed slaughter Santorum would suffer at the hands of Obama. They did endorse Obama in '08, but that was kind of a no-brainer. I realize that Wikipedia is not an authoritative source, but there are lot of sources cited within:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Washington_Post#Political_stance

Salon.com which is reputed to have a decidedly liberal bent seems to view the Post as predominantly right wing:

http://www.salon.com/2009/11/06/washington_post_6/

more on WashPo:

Vanity Fair is doing a story on the paper, now in decline like so many others:

http://jimromenesko.com/2012/02/29/vanity-fair-profiles-washington-post/#more-10036
Title: Re: Campaign 2012
Post by: Here'sToYa! on February 29, 2012, 07:12:56 PM
The Washington Post is prob pro-Obama.  They've always been pretty liberal.  The Washington Times is another story, they lean pretty right.

The Times have been a changin' for The Post. They've been tilting rightward for awhile, especially on the editorial page. That's why I'm wondering if they wouldn't mind seeing the Establishment GOP choice Romney eventually end up in the White House, or at least want to avoid the presumed slaughter Santorum would suffer at the hands of Obama. They did endorse Obama in '08, but that was kind of a no-brainer. I realize that Wikipedia is not an authoritative source, but there are lot of sources cited within:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Washington_Post#Political_stance

Salon.com which is reputed to have a decidedly liberal bent seems to view the Post as predominantly right wing:

http://www.salon.com/2009/11/06/washington_post_6/

more on WashPo:

Vanity Fair is doing a story on the paper, now in decline like so many others:

http://jimromenesko.com/2012/02/29/vanity-fair-profiles-washington-post/#more-10036

This s**t was particularly outrageous:

"The editor denied knowing the details of the sponsored, off-the-record salons featuring Washington Post reporters that the newspaper was selling access to for $25,000 to $250,000, but according to Ellison the damage may already be done."
Title: Rick Santorum
Post by: ggould on March 02, 2012, 03:49:56 PM
http://static.tumblr.com/tjf6lmk/B72m090rt/rick.jpg
Title: Re: Campaign 2012
Post by: RGMike on June 17, 2012, 11:00:22 AM
Posted this on FB too, and yes Aaron Sorkin has a new TV show to promote, but damn this is a great quote from him regardless:

"Nobody uses the word 'lie' anymore. Suddenly, everything is 'a difference of opinion.' If the entire House Republican caucus were to walk onto the floor one day and say 'The Earth is flat,' the headline on the New York Times the next day would read 'Democrats and Republicans Can't Agree on Shape of Earth.' I don't believe the truth always lies in the middle. I don't believe there are two sides to every argument. I think the FACTS are the center."
Title: Re: Campaign 2012
Post by: RGMike on July 06, 2012, 11:26:28 AM
listening to WDAS-AM out of Philly -- a classic soul station with an older black demographic, certainly. And they're running lots of (what I assume are) Romney SuperPac ads decrying Obamacare as "the largest tax increase ever" yadda yadda yadda.

It's gonna be an ugly next 4 months.
Title: Re: Campaign 2012
Post by: ggould on July 07, 2012, 11:36:06 PM
listening to WDAS-AM out of Philly -- a classic soul station with an older black demographic, certainly. And they're running lots of (what I assume are) Romney SuperPac ads decrying Obamacare as "the largest tax increase ever" yadda yadda yadda.

It's gonna be an ugly next 4 months.
beyond ugly.  Ugly is saying nasty things that could be true or are just exaggerations.  The GOP is jumping head first in the total lies/1984/up-is-down kind of shit.  Yeah, it's gonna be ugly, fugly, whateverthefucknplugly!
Title: Re: Campaign 2012
Post by: RGMike on August 23, 2012, 10:53:14 AM
Dee Snider: he's not gonna take it from Paul Ryan!

http://blog.sfgate.com/dailydish/2012/08/23/dee-snider-denounces-paul-ryans-use-of-twisted-sister-song/

And Snider is reportedly a Republican.
Title: Re: Campaign 2012
Post by: RGMike on August 29, 2012, 09:42:08 AM
The first-ever campaign film, from 1912 -- even then, the Repubs are fat-cat bankers, and the Dems are champions of the working class.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwevmowCSZ4&feature=player_embedded#!
Title: Re: Campaign 2012
Post by: Here'sToYa! on October 04, 2012, 12:33:20 AM
Sure Obama was terrible in the debate, but on what planet was Romney good? He looked more sure of himself while delivering irrelevant nonsense that has nothing to do with how he would govern?
Title: Re: Campaign 2012
Post by: ggould on October 04, 2012, 10:59:39 AM
Sure Obama was terrible in the debate, but on what planet was Romney good? He looked more sure of himself while delivering irrelevant nonsense that has nothing to do with how he would govern?
Well put.  I think we can all agree that Obama seemed to not swat Romney down with all the ammo and opportunities he had.  I'm not sure, but earlier in the day, the right-wing blogosphere tried to smear him as racist by releasing an old video.  Perhaps Barack is just doing the Jackie Robinson thing; he has to stay cool, even when he has the right to get angry.  It seemed to kind of immobilize him. How many fucking times did Mitt spew the $716B bullshit about Medicare?  Obama explained it once, and Romney never stopped riffing on it.
Title: Re: Campaign 2012
Post by: RGMike on October 04, 2012, 11:16:35 AM
Sure Obama was terrible in the debate, but on what planet was Romney good? He looked more sure of himself while delivering irrelevant nonsense that has nothing to do with how he would govern?
Well put.  I think we can all agree that Obama seemed to not swat Romney down with all the ammo and opportunities he had.  I'm not sure, but earlier in the day, the right-wing blogosphere tried to smear him as racist by releasing an old video.  Perhaps Barack is just doing the Jackie Robinson thing; he has to stay cool, even when he has the right to get angry.  It seemed to kind of immobilize him. How many fucking times did Mitt spew the $716B bullshit about Medicare?  Obama explained it once, and Romney never stopped riffing on it.

well, this is a bit better:

http://blog.sfgate.com/nov05election/2012/10/04/launching-new-attack-obama-says-the-real-mitt-romney-didnt-show-up-at-debate/
Title: Re: Campaign 2012
Post by: Here'sToYa! on October 04, 2012, 07:53:31 PM
If homeboy took his aggro routine this far, I think I'd have to vote for him:

http://www.theonion.com/articles/mitt-romney-adopts-new-ronnie-ferocious-persona-fo,29789/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=SocialMarketing&utm_campaign=fb-image:headline:cta-content
Title: Re: Campaign 2012
Post by: Big Fingers McGee on October 04, 2012, 08:25:55 PM
If homeboy took his aggro routine this far, I think I'd have to vote for him:

http://www.theonion.com/articles/mitt-romney-adopts-new-ronnie-ferocious-persona-fo,29789/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=SocialMarketing&utm_campaign=fb-image:headline:cta-content

If only a serious candidate would actually act like that, the country would advance by about 25 years.
Title: Re: Campaign 2012
Post by: Here'sToYa! on October 05, 2012, 08:23:20 PM
This article makes sense:

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/10/does-the-medias-romney-comeback-narrative-matter/263273/
Title: Re: Campaign 2012
Post by: Here'sToYa! on October 05, 2012, 08:28:24 PM
Pre-debate (this Robert Wright fellow is pretty sharp):

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/09/the-coming-romney-comeback-narrative/262876/
Title: Re: Campaign 2012
Post by: RGMike on November 06, 2012, 12:31:54 PM
Had to mention this... file it under "11th-hour desperation". I'm listening to WDAS-AM in Philly, as I usually do.  And I'm hearing a TON of commercials, not only for Romney but also for Tom Smith, the GOP Senate candidate in PA (running against incumbent Bob Casey. These ads were not running yesterday. Dunno how much these ads cost, or if they're part of a multi-station buy, but WDAS's audience is easily 85% black. So ads calling Obama a failure... probably falling on deaf ears.

Meanwhile the station followed a "get out and vote" promo with the 3 Degrees' "Year Of Decision". Nice.

ETA: and here we are the morning after and the first song I hear them play is Dionne W -- she's all thru with promises promises now! LOL!