10at10 Club

Main Discussion Area => Stream of Consciousness => Topic started by: ggould on July 31, 2006, 11:20:01 AM

Title: 10@10 club Glossary
Post by: ggould on July 31, 2006, 11:20:01 AM
http://www.10at10club.com/poc/glossary.html

check it out, comment, email POC or me for updates.  I have no idea how to settle disputes.  Perhaps something along the lines of that beer commercial about 'man rules' or whatever it's  called?
Title: Re: 10@10 club Glossary
Post by: RGMike on July 31, 2006, 11:25:07 AM
Quote from: "ggould"
http://www.10at10club.com/poc/glossary.html

check it out, comment, email POC or me for updates.  I have no idea how to settle disputes.  Perhaps something along the lines of that beer commercial about 'man rules' or whatever it's  called?


well, "Narada" is missing (a song that Dave plays frequently that the listener does not ever remember hearing at the time during the year in question).
Title: Re: 10@10 club Glossary
Post by: ggould on July 31, 2006, 11:30:20 AM
Quote from: "RGMike"
Quote from: "ggould"
http://www.10at10club.com/poc/glossary.html

check it out, comment, email POC or me for updates.  I have no idea how to settle disputes.  Perhaps something along the lines of that beer commercial about 'man rules' or whatever it's  called?
well, "Narada" is missing (a song that Dave plays frequently that the listener does not ever remember hearing at the time during the year in question).

For one thing, I don't really think Narada has stuck, but I remember it as a Katrina subset, but OK, since it's really cool.  Nonetheless, it deserves to be in the glossary.
Title: Re: 10@10 club Glossary
Post by: RGMike on July 31, 2006, 11:33:40 AM
Quote from: "ggould"
Quote from: "RGMike"
Quote from: "ggould"
http://www.10at10club.com/poc/glossary.html

check it out, comment, email POC or me for updates.  I have no idea how to settle disputes.  Perhaps something along the lines of that beer commercial about 'man rules' or whatever it's  called?
well, "Narada" is missing (a song that Dave plays frequently that the listener does not ever remember hearing at the time during the year in question).

For one thing, I don't really think Narada has stuck, but I remember it as a Katrina subset, but OK, since it's really cool.  Nonetheless, it deserves to be in the glossary.


amended definition:

Narada -- a song that Dave plays frequently that the listener does not ever remember hearing at the time during the year in question. Named for Narada Michael Walden, whose "I Should Have Loved Ya" is a Dave favorite that no one remembers hearing back in the day.
Title: Re: 10@10 club Glossary
Post by: princessofcairo on July 31, 2006, 11:52:28 AM
Quote from: "RGMike"
Quote from: "ggould"
Quote from: "RGMike"
Quote from: "ggould"
http://www.10at10club.com/poc/glossary.html

check it out, comment, email POC or me for updates.  I have no idea how to settle disputes.  Perhaps something along the lines of that beer commercial about 'man rules' or whatever it's  called?
well, "Narada" is missing (a song that Dave plays frequently that the listener does not ever remember hearing at the time during the year in question).

For one thing, I don't really think Narada has stuck, but I remember it as a Katrina subset, but OK, since it's really cool.  Nonetheless, it deserves to be in the glossary.


amended definition:

Narada -- a song that Dave plays frequently that the listener does not ever remember hearing at the time during the year in question. Named for Narada Michael Walden, whose "I Should Have Loved Ya" is a Dave favorite that no one remembers hearing back in the day.


added!
Title: Re: 10@10 club Glossary
Post by: ggould on July 31, 2006, 12:56:38 PM
Quote from: "princessofcairo"
Quote from: "RGMike"
Quote from: "ggould"
Quote from: "RGMike"
Quote from: "ggould"
http://www.10at10club.com/poc/glossary.html

check it out, comment, email POC or me for updates.  I have no idea how to settle disputes.  Perhaps something along the lines of that beer commercial about 'man rules' or whatever it's  called?
well, "Narada" is missing (a song that Dave plays frequently that the listener does not ever remember hearing at the time during the year in question).
For one thing, I don't really think Narada has stuck, but I remember it as a Katrina subset, but OK, since it's really cool.  Nonetheless, it deserves to be in the glossary.
amended definition:

Narada -- a song that Dave plays frequently that the listener does not ever remember hearing at the time during the year in question. Named for Narada Michael Walden, whose "I Should Have Loved Ya" is a Dave favorite that no one remembers hearing back in the day.
added!

OK folks, here's a lesson about how to co-manage an html file.  Earlier, I corrected the spelling of 'Alison' (one L instead of 2) but this correction was overwritten when POC updated the Narada listing.  I should have notified her of my change, and it's always good to see if the version one has on the hard disk is the same as the one you're about to update!
Title: Re: 10@10 club Glossary
Post by: mshray on July 31, 2006, 02:08:54 PM
Quote from: "RGMike"
Quote from: "ggould"
http://www.10at10club.com/poc/glossary.html

check it out, comment, email POC or me for updates.  I have no idea how to settle disputes.  Perhaps something along the lines of that beer commercial about 'man rules' or whatever it's  called?


well, "Narada" is missing (a song that Dave plays frequently that the listener does not ever remember hearing at the time during the year in question).


Zeitgeist: a song that truly evokes for the listener the original time and place where they used to hear it.  (i.e. most any Disco takes Alicat back to the roller skating rinks of her adolescence). Not quite the same as a Sledgehammer, & not a comment on the song-in-question's overall listenability.

Sledgehammer: A song that truly evokes for the listener a very specific & personal emotional experience.  (i.e. Jackson Browne's "That Girl Could Sing" never fails to make Mshray relive a breakup from his junior year of college).  Not quite the same as a Zeitgeist, & not a comment on the song-in-question's overall listenability.

Turkey:  A Dave Morey original term for a song that is "dumb, but tasty", and which is the subject of an annual review, usually the day before Thanksgiving.  Traditional examples include "Mah Nah Mah Nah", "Safety Dance" & "Tubthumping".  Not to be confused with a Guilty Pleasure or a Hit From Hell.

Guilty Pleasure:  a song that a majority of listeners would by consensus term a HFH, but which you the individual are still fond of and are willing to declare so publicly (regardless of the recriminations).  A Guilty Displeasure is the contrapositive, a song you can't stand that is by general consensus highly regarded, and you are willing to state this for the record even at the risk of your rock-critic credibilty.  An example of the former is Mshray's continued enjoyment of all things Wang Chung, while his distaste for the Double Fantasy album constitutes the latter.

And I propose ammending the HFH entry:

HFH (Hit From Hell): A former hit song that now makes everyone cringe, quintessentially represented by Debbie Boone's "You Light Up My Life".  A subset in this category is the HFH - WGAGB (When Good Artists Go Bad):  a Hit From Hell created by a Hall-of-Fame caliber artist, quintessentially represented by the Michael Jackson & Paul McCartney duet "The Girl Is Mine", (all together now "...that dog-gone girl is mine...")
Title: 10@10 club Glossary
Post by: mshray on July 31, 2006, 02:21:34 PM
also:  the Fake Jazz entry can keep the reference to "The City", but you must add BTO's "Blue Collar", which was Razsty's original inspiration.

...and if we have a Fake Jazz entry, then in all fairness we need a Fake Reggae entry, again credited to Razsty, and spotlighted by 10CC's "Dreadlock Holiday".
Title: 10@10 club Glossary
Post by: Gazoo on July 31, 2006, 09:27:09 PM
I'd elaborate a little bit on an Allison: It's a song that contains its album's title in its lyrics but does not itself share the album's title.  (A special category could be created for Culture Club, whose "Miss Me Blind" used the title of their previous album in its lyrics.

Also, the basic BOS needs to be added for newbies.  Alas, I can't add more, because I can no longer tell what is and isn't an inside joke among us.
Title: 10@10 club Glossary
Post by: Gazoo on July 31, 2006, 09:30:20 PM
Also, maybe add "breakout" and "bustout" as synonyms for Gomer (which I'd forgotten about, but I like).
Title: 10@10 club Glossary
Post by: princessofcairo on August 01, 2006, 07:10:48 AM
done!
Title: 10@10 club Glossary
Post by: RGMike on August 01, 2006, 07:39:32 AM
Quote from: "Gazoo"
Also, maybe add "breakout" and "bustout" as synonyms for Gomer (which I'd forgotten about, but I like).


I don't think they're synonyms, actually. "Breakout" and "bustout" are simply songs the deejay in question has never played before on 10@10. I always thought a Gomer connoted some element of surprise -- a song we never expected to hear played. (Like if Ginger played something really cheezy or if Dave played something from Southside Johnny's first LP :-))
Title: 10@10 club Glossary
Post by: mshray on August 01, 2006, 10:05:52 AM
Quote from: "Gazoo"
I'd elaborate a little bit on an Allison: It's a song that contains its album's title in its lyrics but does not itself share the album's title.  (A special category could be created for Culture Club, whose "Miss Me Blind" used the title of their previous album in its lyrics.

Also, the basic BOS needs to be added for newbies.  Alas, I can't add more, because I can no longer tell what is and isn't an inside joke among us.


Hey Gaz, I just revisited that ILM thread on the Alison subject (http://ilx.p3r.net/thread.php?msgid=4908308 for anyone else who's curious), here's a couple of MMB's from XTC, although I think the lyric came before the album title:

Or then there's XTC's habit of taking album titles from lyrics that appeared in previous albums.
"Oranges and Lemons" --> Skylarking "Ballet for a Rainy Day"
"Apple Venus" --> Nonsuch "Then She Appeared"


Also Jimmy Buffett's song "Nautical Wheelers" contains the lyric Living and Dying in 3/4 Time, which was his previous album.
Title: 10@10 club Glossary
Post by: urth on August 03, 2006, 05:44:13 PM
Another submission:

Nugget: Derived from Nuggets, the 1972 collection compiled by Lenny Kaye (and the subsequent Rhino box sets based thereon), it refers to a song that's rarely played and almost forgotten--perhaps a one-hit wonder--but one that, at its first notes, evokes a certain time, mood, or emotion. Always a great song, and usually a highlight of the set.
Title: 10@10 club Glossary
Post by: darryl on August 03, 2007, 06:03:06 PM
Yo, can somebody make this thread sticky (always at the top)?  Is that possible with phpBB?  And what does ETA mean?  (The reason I searched for this thread in the first place.)

Thanks!
Title: 10@10 club Glossary
Post by: Gazoo on August 03, 2007, 09:15:57 PM
Quote from: "darryl"
Yo, can somebody make this thread sticky (always at the top)?  Is that possible with phpBB?  And what does ETA mean?  (The reason I searched for this thread in the first place.)

Thanks!


Have we been using ETA here in an in-joke way?  In normal parlance it's "estimated time of arrival."

ETA: Oh, whoops!  I forgot!  ETA = "Edited to Add," for when we go back and modify posts to fix errors or add further info.  I think that's general msg-board lingo, not 10@10-ism.
Title: Catrina
Post by: ggould on August 08, 2007, 02:42:56 PM
Quote from: "darryl"
Yo, can somebody make this thread sticky (always at the top)?  Is that possible with phpBB?  And what does ETA mean?  (The reason I searched for this thread in the first place.)

Thanks!

Good idea on the sticky thing.

down here in Mexico, Catrina means something  else

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1b/Catrina-sculpture.jpg)
Title: 10@10 club Glossary
Post by: RGMike on September 25, 2007, 08:10:31 AM
A new acronym for you all:

Comedian Demetri Martin (of Daily Show fame), who was being interviewed on NPR: "I never write LOL in e-mails. I write LQTM -- laughing quietly to myself. It's more honest."

LQTM!
Title: Re: 10@10 club Glossary
Post by: mshray on March 04, 2008, 09:45:23 AM
as mentioned elsewhere, it bears pointing out that we are prone to award BOS votes to songs based on rarity.  Hence BOSFRA = Best Of Set For Rarity Alone.  (first coined, I believe, by Mike).
Title: Re: 10@10 club Glossary
Post by: ggould on March 10, 2008, 02:40:08 PM
as mentioned elsewhere, it bears pointing out that we are prone to award BOS votes to songs based on rarity.  Hence BOSFRA = Best Of Set For Rarity Alone.  (first coined, I believe, by Mike).
I guess I missed that one "in the wild."
Title: Re: 10@10 club Glossary
Post by: Gazoo on March 10, 2008, 10:35:44 PM
To add (or not):

OHW = One-Hit Wonder

TOTHK = alt. spelling of TOTHC

OMG = Spinners, "(They Just Can't Stop It The) Games People Play"
OMFG = Spinners, "Love Don't Love Nobody"
OMGWTF = Spinners, "Love or Leave"
OMGWTFLOL = Spinners, "Sadie"
Title: Re: 10@10 club Glossary
Post by: RGMike on July 29, 2008, 09:35:23 AM
Here's one that's come up in the past week from both Gaz & me: ATBB (Across-the-board bustout).
Title: Re: 10@10 club Glossary
Post by: ggould on August 15, 2008, 01:38:19 PM
I notice that the definition  of Narada is for a song we don't remember hearing at the time.  For me, the song "Worlds Away" by Strange Advance is a song I remember clearly hearing a lot when it was out, but now only hear it in the 10@10 context.  I don't think it's the same as a sledgehammer either.  Have you denizens of the hip lingo come up with a term for this kind of song?
Title: Re: 10@10 club Glossary
Post by: RGMike on August 15, 2008, 01:43:31 PM
I notice that the definition  of Narada is for a song we don't remember hearing at the time.  For me, the song "Worlds Away" by Strange Advance is a song I remember clearly hearing a lot when it was out, but now only hear it in the 10@10 context.  I don't think it's the same as a sledgehammer either.  Have you denizens of the hip lingo come up with a term for this kind of song?

I'd call it an MT -- Mind Tickler. (recently, Blotto's "I wanna Be a Lifeguard", which Rob and only Rob has played, would be a MT for me)  But I'm open to other suggestions.
Title: Re: 10@10 club Glossary
Post by: RGMike on August 20, 2008, 09:00:21 AM
I'd like to add NTM -- New to Me, an expression we use quite often.
Title: Re: 10@10 club Glossary
Post by: darryl on December 21, 2008, 10:52:43 PM
Back from Texas just now.  Somebody remind me what TANC means?  I always end up looking it up and I'm too tired to do so now.  Thanks.
Title: Re: 10@10 club Glossary
Post by: ggould on December 21, 2008, 10:54:26 PM
Back from Texas just now.  Somebody remind me what TANC means?  I always end up looking it up and I'm too tired to do so now.  Thanks.
There Are No Coincidences
Title: Re: 10@10 club Glossary
Post by: RGMike on March 04, 2011, 12:22:10 PM
I'm offically adding Y&S, for "Yeesh & Sheesh", a phrase i find myself using all too often in exasperation at the predictability/Classic rock meatheadedness of Drive and Sound 10@10s.
Title: Re: 10@10 club Glossary
Post by: Tinka Cat on March 04, 2011, 02:24:00 PM
I'm offically adding Y&S, for "Yeesh & Sheesh", a phrase i find myself using all too often in exasperation at the predictability/Classic rock meatheadedness of Drive and Sound 10@10s.

ooookaaaaay, but I might think you're talking about Yarnell & Shields, which is how I refer to those two.
Title: Re: 10@10 club Glossary
Post by: RGMike on March 04, 2011, 02:30:08 PM
I'm offically adding Y&S, for "Yeesh & Sheesh", a phrase i find myself using all too often in exasperation at the predictability/Classic rock meatheadedness of Drive and Sound 10@10s.

ooookaaaaay, but I might think you're talking about Yarnell & Shields, which is how I refer to those two.

damn, but they were creepy.

(http://guywebster.com/images/photographs/shields_and_yarnell.jpg?1283390134)
Title: Re: 10@10 club Glossary
Post by: RGMike on November 04, 2011, 09:38:21 AM
I'm offically adding Y&S, for "Yeesh & Sheesh", a phrase i find myself using all too often in exasperation at the predictability/Classic rock meatheadedness of Drive and Sound 10@10s.

someone asked about Y&S -- so here's the original post.
Title: Re: 10@10 club Glossary
Post by: RGMike on January 19, 2012, 08:35:06 AM
added this week: "LN" for "least necessary" song on a set. As is our wont, there can of course be more than one per set: LN1, LN2 etc etc.
Title: Re: 10@10 club Glossary
Post by: sundaygal on January 19, 2012, 08:56:20 AM
added this week: "LN" for "least necessary" song on a set. As is our wont, there can of course be more than one per set: LN1, LN2 etc etc.

Like "Katrina", we can use "Dead Man's Party" (DMP) or something similar in its place......
Title: Re: 10@10 club Glossary
Post by: Big Fingers McGee on January 19, 2012, 11:03:36 AM
added this week: "LN" for "least necessary" song on a set. As is our wont, there can of course be more than one per set: LN1, LN2 etc etc.

Rod came up with a new one today - Worst of Least Necessary. WOLN would be technically correct, but I think WORN would be more appropriate.
Title: Re: 10@10 club Glossary
Post by: radical347 on January 19, 2012, 11:09:08 AM
added this week: "LN" for "least necessary" song on a set. As is our wont, there can of course be more than one per set: LN1, LN2 etc etc.

Rod came up with a new one today - Worst of Least Necessary. WOLN would be technically correct, but I think WORN would be more appropriate.

Would that be the least-least-least necessary, or the actual worst song of the LNs?
Title: Re: 10@10 club Glossary
Post by: Big Fingers McGee on January 19, 2012, 12:02:41 PM
added this week: "LN" for "least necessary" song on a set. As is our wont, there can of course be more than one per set: LN1, LN2 etc etc.

Like "Katrina", we can use "Dead Man's Party" (DMP) or something similar in its place......

either way, 1985 is to blame.
Title: Re: 10@10 club Glossary
Post by: Big Fingers McGee on January 19, 2012, 12:03:20 PM
added this week: "LN" for "least necessary" song on a set. As is our wont, there can of course be more than one per set: LN1, LN2 etc etc.

Rod came up with a new one today - Worst of Least Necessary. WOLN would be technically correct, but I think WORN would be more appropriate.

Would that be the least-least-least necessary, or the actual worst song of the LNs?

Yes, in other words an "F/F" on your rating scale.
Title: Re: 10@10 club Glossary
Post by: ggould on January 23, 2012, 11:20:12 AM
added this week: "LN" for "least necessary" song on a set. As is our wont, there can of course be more than one per set: LN1, LN2 etc etc.

Why you talkin' 'bout Liquid Nitrogen?

(http://www.daviddarling.info/images/liquid_nitrogen.jpg)
Title: Re: 10@10 club Glossary
Post by: Big Fingers McGee on January 25, 2012, 12:09:10 PM
What would a song or artist be if you like it/them, nobody else does, but you aren't embarrassed about it? That is, not a guilty pleasure because you won't acknowledge that there is no/little musical merit?
Title: Re: 10@10 club Glossary
Post by: Lightnin' Rod on January 25, 2012, 12:40:48 PM
What would a song or artist be if you like it/them, nobody else does, but you aren't embarrassed about it? That is, not a guilty pleasure because you won't acknowledge that there is no/little musical merit?

A Tom Petty?   ;D
Title: Re: 10@10 club Glossary
Post by: ggould on January 25, 2012, 07:48:19 PM
What would a song or artist be if you like it/them, nobody else does, but you aren't embarrassed about it? That is, not a guilty pleasure because you won't acknowledge that there is no/little musical merit?

A Tom Petty?   ;D
Don Henley?
Grateful Dead?
Title: Re: 10@10 club Glossary
Post by: Tinka Cat on January 25, 2012, 08:22:24 PM
What would a song or artist be if you like it/them, nobody else does, but you aren't embarrassed about it? That is, not a guilty pleasure because you won't acknowledge that there is no/little musical merit?

A Tom Petty?   ;D
Don Henley?
Grateful Dead?

Rush?   ;D
Title: Re: 10@10 club Glossary
Post by: sundaygal on January 25, 2012, 08:40:09 PM
What would a song or artist be if you like it/them, nobody else does, but you aren't embarrassed about it? That is, not a guilty pleasure because you won't acknowledge that there is no/little musical merit?

A Tom Petty?   ;D
Don Henley?
Grateful Dead?

Rush?   ;D

Stevie Nicks?   >:(  ;)
Title: Re: 10@10 club Glossary
Post by: urth on January 26, 2012, 12:01:55 AM
What would a song or artist be if you like it/them, nobody else does, but you aren't embarrassed about it? That is, not a guilty pleasure because you won't acknowledge that there is no/little musical merit?

A Tom Petty?   ;D
Don Henley?
Grateful Dead?

Rush?   ;D

Stevie Nicks?   >:(  ;)

Chicago?

Title: Re: 10@10 club Glossary
Post by: Big Fingers McGee on January 26, 2012, 08:05:23 AM
What would a song or artist be if you like it/them, nobody else does, but you aren't embarrassed about it? That is, not a guilty pleasure because you won't acknowledge that there is no/little musical merit?

A Tom Petty?   ;D
Don Henley?
Grateful Dead?

Rush?   ;D

Stevie Nicks?   >:(  ;)

Chicago?

I'm not embarrased to state that I like Richard Marx's first three albums.
Title: Re: 10@10 club Glossary
Post by: darryl on February 02, 2012, 10:41:03 AM
So I didn't see it here -- what's a Lola?  And can this please be moved to the 10@10 forum and be made sticky?
Title: Re: 10@10 club Glossary
Post by: radical347 on February 02, 2012, 10:57:57 AM
What would a song or artist be if you like it/them, nobody else does, but you aren't embarrassed about it? That is, not a guilty pleasure because you won't acknowledge that there is no/little musical merit?

A The Call
Title: Re: 10@10 club Glossary
Post by: RGMike on February 02, 2012, 12:21:10 PM
So I didn't see it here -- what's a Lola? 

actually there's no such thing as a Lola -- i was just making a joke since we had a Sally and a Katrina in the same set as "Lola", which is a Katrina.  ;)
Title: Re: 10@10 club Glossary
Post by: Tinka Cat on February 02, 2012, 12:40:31 PM
So I didn't see it here -- what's a Lola? 

actually there's no such thing as a Lola -- i was just making a joke since we had a Sally and a Katrina in the same set as "Lola", which is a Katrina.  ;)

ok, so 'Lola' can mean a joke that no one gets -- something with which I am very familiar.  :)   :'(
Title: Re: 10@10 club Glossary
Post by: Here'sToYa! on February 02, 2012, 01:12:19 PM
ok, so 'Lola' can mean a joke that no one gets -- something with which I am very familiar.  :)   :'(

I feel your pain.

(http://dailybail.com/storage/bill-clinton-404_683090c.jpg?__SQUARESPACE_CACHEVERSION=1285011722646)
Title: Re: 10@10 club Glossary
Post by: Big Fingers McGee on March 27, 2012, 11:02:29 AM
Proposed new/updated definitions:

Katrina: Shall reflect overplayed 10@10 selections during the Dave Morey era.
Foo: Shall reflect overplayed 10@10 selections during the Annalisa era.

A 10@10 selection that is overplayed during both eras would be a Morey Foo, or a MF.
Title: Re: 10@10 club Glossary
Post by: RGMike on March 27, 2012, 12:13:25 PM
Proposed new/updated definitions:

Katrina: Shall reflect overplayed 10@10 selections during the Dave Morey era.
Foo: Shall reflect overplayed 10@10 selections during the Annalisa era.

A 10@10 selection that is overplayed during both eras would be a Morey Foo, or a MF.

bwahahaha!
Title: Re: 10@10 club Glossary
Post by: Big Fingers McGee on March 27, 2012, 01:45:51 PM
Proposed new/updated definitions:

Katrina: Shall reflect overplayed 10@10 selections during the Dave Morey era.
Foo: Shall reflect overplayed 10@10 selections during the Annalisa era.

A 10@10 selection that is overplayed during both eras would be a Morey Foo, or a MF.

bwahahaha!

Strike the MF with KF?