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« Reply #90 on: August 02, 2005, 08:20:21 AM »
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PLEASE REPLY WITH OPINIONS -- THANKS!!!

I'm buying a ticket to the Jefferson Airplane/Starship concert next Thursday at B.B. King's.  The performing band is Kantner, Balin, Freiberg, and the usual backing musicians, including Diana Magnano and Darby Gold handling the Grace parts as they've done for many years.  There are two purchase options:

$35 - General Admission seating
$65 - VIP ticket features early sound check access, meet and greet with all musicians, CD copy of the night's performance and preferred seating.

I have never done this kind of thing, and definitely respect saving the money.  It's hard to say how much face time you'd get, but you might find the sound check interesting.
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« Reply #91 on: August 02, 2005, 11:32:40 AM »
Yesterday I apparently dropped a twenty either coming out of or going into the donut shop with my kids.  Now only have $2 in my pocket until the next trip to the ATM.  But I'm not beating myself up over it.

Suppose you dropped $30 on the subway, how bad would you feel?  Now suppose you decided to save the extra $30 on the VIP, and later heard that the backstage thing was even halfway decent, how bad would you feel?

I think it would be worth it just for the chance to possibly hear Grace say, "Hi Joe!  Sure I remember you."

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« Reply #92 on: August 02, 2005, 10:22:40 PM »
this may be primarily of interest to Gaz, but the living SF music history pix are pretty cool.  First, here's a link to some photos:

http://vcpractice.com/chet/

Attached to the email I got is a rather long description and set list(s):

Following is a good review of the show:

I'll just note what I can recall. There were so many people from every
band playing together, I'm sure to omit somebody and mess up the order
of acts. I also don't know all the players by name, when a detailed
setlist shows up then we'll all know who did what...

Wavy Gravy as emcee with Flying Other Brothers Roger McNamee as
(train)conductor. The hall was very intimate and it was easy to imagine
what it was like in the old ballrooms.

The lightshow was excellent, among the artists was Jerry Abrams of
Headlights/JA renown. A large circular screen centered above the stage
had two hanging panels on each side featuring white projection areas on
tye-dyed backgrounds. Old style liquid projection (at one point on
screen I watched as the artist added colored liquids from something that
looked like a plastic squeeze condiment bottle onto the projector and
mixed the colors of their palette), computer graphics and video both
live and recorded were shown. As John Krug has noted, many vintage
videos were screened as part of the light show. Many we've seen before,
segments from The Hippie Temptation, Human Be-in. Footage from People's
Park in Berkeley with troops on Telegraph, a video regarding the
facsimile edition of the Oracle (Chet's image here as he was interviewed
(there was no audio) was cheered by the crowd.) Some other footage with
Chet was shown, could this have been from the Tribal Stomp at the Greek
Theater 78?

The evening started with Joli Valenti and Friends as "The Friends of
Chet Band" with Mario Cipollina, Greg's Douglass and Anton and other
veterans of Quicksilver Gold. They played "Mona", "Imagine" (or did I
imagine that?), an un-recorded song by Joli's father Dino, a version of
Hendrix's "Angel" sung by a powerful drummer whose name I didn't catch,
David Frieberg joined for "Get Together".

The Flying Other Brothers with Barry Sless served as the "house band".
Pete Sears played keyboard, bass & accordion with just about every act
that appeared. Pete sang the lead vocals for "Stella Blue" the first of
many nods to Jerry Garcia's upcoming birthday. Chet's birthday is the
day after Jerry's. The FOB together and individually came and went from
the stage to support various acts. Other percussionists added to the
mix.

Then David Nelson Band, they did "Fennario" among others with Bob Weir
joining in for "Friend of the Devil" and "Ripple".

I think the "JS" portion of the show was very well received. Paul did
justice to "In My Life." Wavy Gravy was still introducing Paul, Prairie
and "Diane" as he started the song. I think many in the crowd were
unfamiliar with "Shadowlands", when Darby joined Diana on stage. A real
highlight of the entire evening, IMO, was David Frieberg singing "Pride
of Man", he was "in command" of the whole hall. His delivery was
powerful and confident, the backing band was excellent. Mark Karan took
the first lead solo and Barry Sless the second. It was really a shining
moment. David was wearing a black John Cipollina t-shirt! Paul then led
a rousing version of "Volunteers" with many in the audience singing
along and Diana leading the "Fight Back! refrain.

Bobby Vega, Prairie Prince and FOB drummer Jim Sanchez did an
instrumental featuring Vega's bass stylings.

Bob Weir with Karan and Matt Kelley did "Ashes and Glass", several Dead
songs including "The Wheel", "I Know You Rider", "Deal", mentioned
Jerry's birthday and did another signature Garcia song (which one I'm
forgetting at the moment), "She Belongs to Me", "KC Moan".

Mickey Hart joined in the middle of Bob's set and sang "Iko, Iko" and a
tribute to Jerry song I've heard, but can't recall the name "Down the
Road?" about Kennedy, John Lennon and "a big beard and glasses in the
sky".

T-Bone Burnett did a couple of songs, great voice and presence.

Country Joe came on with "Ridin' on A Starship" (is this a poke at
BATE?), led the audience in the "cheer" and
"Feel-Like-I'm-Fixin'-To-Die-Rag" and "Save the Whales" (background
vocals by David Frieberg, his wife, Diana, and another female singer
rather operatic with interesting vocalization.

Big Brother came out strong with Kathy McDonald doing vocals on "Down on
Me". Only originals were Peter Albin and David Getz, Sam Andrew was
appearing somewhere in a play, the lead guitar was provided by Tom Fitch
a BBHC alumni. They were joined shortly by Leigh Stephens from Blue
Cheer, who seemed rather subdued in his playing until "Ball and Chain".
I was at the back of the Hall and quite a few people left during BBHC. I
don't think the music drove them out, simply the late
hour or closing parking garages.

After BBHC, FOB came back on. Merle Saunders joined Pete at the keyboard
to rousing applause. It was getting early (1:30 AM) and as they played
"Going Down the Road Feeling Bad", I also took the hint and left. Sorry
that I may have missed Terry Haggerty and any finale.[I guess the show
wasn't much longer from what else I've read.]

As for the posters, what can one say? Check them out here on the auction
page:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7534741448

All but two of the poster artists were present, it would have been hard
for Rick Griffin to attend, but his artwork was used to great effect in
a poster with permission from his estate. The 14 poster pack made this
concert a "no-brainer" for those lucky enough to attend. What Pete Sears
did for organizing the musicians, Chris Shaw did for the poster artists.
Each attendee got a laminate (a smaller version of one of the posters)as
a "ticket" to get a poster pack. As you got your posters, a small cut
was made in the corner of the laminate.

I hope others will fill in any gaps, and look forward to their
impressions of this landmark event.

Thanks to all the organizers, Chet's family and especially Chet himself.
I have very good memories of events I've attended that Chet put on,
seeing him at various shows. I feel fortunate I was able to talk with
him and thank him about one of these memories as he autographed Mouse's
poster for the 78 Tribal Stomp, which is one of my favorites.





tried to keep a setlist, but must admit I was having so much fun at the
front by the stage, + catching up with so many old friends in side
conversations - that my setlist notes are not complete. Adding to Jim's
post above, from my notebook:

(Joli Valenti and 'friends')
MONA (you knew from this instant the night was gonna ROCK! (this comment
for Angie))
IMAGINE
??? (I didn't catch the title to this one)
ANGEL
GET TOGETHER

(Flying Other Brothers and 'friends')
NICK OF TIME >
JAM >
DEVIL'S KITCHEN
SPILLIN' THE BLUES
STELLA BLUE (Pete Sears vocal/keys and Barry Sless - just awesome)

(David Nelson w/Pete Sears on bass(yes!), Barry Sless, Matt Kelly on
harp, Jimmy Sanchez on drums (he's been on drums since the beginning of
the FOB's set))
ROCKY ROAD BLUES
DIFFERENT WORLD
PEGGY-O/FENNARIO
EARL'S GIRLS

(now joined by Bob Weir and Robin Sylvester)
WHEEL >
RIPPLE

(Bobby Vega + Prairie Prince + Jimmy Sanchez)
??? (I don't know the title but never leave Bobby Vega out of any list
of top ten greatest bass players)

(T-Bone Burnett w/Flying Other Brothers & Prairie Prince)
??? (didn't catch the title)
MARCHING TO ZION (???)

(Paul Kantner + Diana Mangano + Prairie Prince)
IN MY LIFE (PK on 12 string acoustic)
(now joined by Darby Gould - PK switches to the Ric)
SHADOWLANDS (!!)
(now joined by David Freiberg, Linda Imperial, Barry Sless, Mark Karan,
Bobby Vega, Roger McNamee, Pete Sears)
PRIDE OF MAN (!!)
VOLUNTEERS (!!) (Diana pulls Eth up onstage to assist - the whole room
is singing Volunteers)

(Bob Weir, Robin Sylvester, Barry Sless, Mark Karan, Matt Kelly)
KC MOAN
ASHES & GLASS
(Bob Weir says "Somebody's Birthday is coming up.") >
FRIEND OF THE DEVIL
(now Mickey Hart come out and leads...)
AIKO AIKO
DOWN THE ROAD AGAIN
(Mickey leaves)
I KNOW YOU RIDER
DEAL

(Country Joe, Bobby Vega, Pete Sears, Roger McNamee)
STARSHIP RIDE
(now joined by David Freiberg, Linda Imperial, Diana Mangano)
GIVE ME AN 'F'.... >
I FEEL LIKE I'M FIXIN' TO DIE RAG (VIETNAM RAG)
SAVE THE WHALES

(Big Brother and the Holding Company - introduced by Wavy as 'Chet's
band)
?? - (I was in the back talking with John Murray + others + getting much
needed water - I didn't write down any of the great BBHC set)
Big Brother's set (order uncertain) included:
Down On Me
Blindman
Summertime
All Is Loneliness (not certain about this one)
Piece of My Heart
Whole Lotta Shakin' Goin On (or some sorta oldie)
Ball and Chain


(Flying Other Brother Brothers with Pete Sears and MERL SAUNDERS(!!) on
keys)
GOIN' DOWN THE ROAD FEELIN' BAD
(Merl leaves and then Bert Keely leads for the finale)
FOREVER YOUNG

- - - - - - - -

Audio was mixed by the ever-incredible Howard Danchik. John Murray also
assisting. Hardly a snafu all night. The entire 6+ hours is recorded in
24bit/48Khz 24 track audio, and multi camera Beta. I say the entire
concert from beginning to end should be the final product to DVDs - not
a trimmed-down-to-fit-on-one-DVD version. Every minute of this concert
needs to be released (IMHO).

Mr. Pete Sears had a huge hand in assembling this entire production.
Thanks, Pete.

That's my notebook from the show.

Peace,
Tahoe Bob
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« Reply #93 on: August 02, 2005, 11:37:39 PM »
Quote from: "Gazoo"
PLEASE REPLY WITH OPINIONS -- THANKS!!!

I'm buying a ticket to the Jefferson Airplane/Starship concert next Thursday at B.B. King's.  
$65 - VIP ticket features early sound check access, meet and greet with all musicians, CD copy of the night's performance and preferred seating.

Y'all know how silly about the band I am.  PLEASE REPLY WITH OPINIONS -- THANKS!!!

Thanks for listening,
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« Reply #94 on: August 03, 2005, 08:48:26 AM »
Geoff, the recap of Chet's party was unbelievable.  I could make a joke about how they could cast an entire season of "Celebrity Fit Club" from some of those thicker-in-the-middles, but heh.  What an amazing spirit of community still lingers with those folks -- you'd NEVER see today's modern-rock bands conspiring and celebrating with each other in similar fashion today.  That irks me.

And thanks as well to you, Alicat and Mshray for chiming in on the JA/JS VIP tix.  I did end up spending the extra bucks (with Ticketbastard fees it came to $75).  I wish I could pitch it as a story, but most/all magazines are only interested in live reviews if it's a hot band and/or the show can be pegged to a pending release or interview or other news-y event.

But it'll be an interesting show, dare I say a solid one, and it'll be a great pleasure to thank Marty for "Miracles" and "Hearts" and "Share a Little Joke" and "Today" and so many others, and David for his work on "Harp Tree Lament" and the whole BVT album.  I'll have a full report next week.

I'll also have a report this weekend on the Howard Tate show.

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« Reply #95 on: August 03, 2005, 09:06:34 AM »
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I wish I could pitch it as a story, but most/all magazines are only interested in live reviews if it's a hot band and/or the show can be pegged to a pending release or interview or other news-y event.

Pitch it as some pathetic gathering of old hippies, then double-cross them!
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« Reply #96 on: August 03, 2005, 10:13:18 AM »
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Geoff, the recap of Chet's party was unbelievable.  I could make a joke about how they could cast an entire season of "Celebrity Fit Club" from some of those thicker-in-the-middles, but heh.  What an amazing spirit of community still lingers with those folks -- you'd NEVER see today's modern-rock bands conspiring and celebrating with each other in similar fashion today.  That irks me.

And thanks as well to you, Alicat and Mshray for chiming in on the JA/JS VIP tix.  I did end up spending the extra bucks (with Ticketbastard fees it came to $75).  I wish I could pitch it as a story, but most/all magazines are only interested in live reviews if it's a hot band and/or the show can be pegged to a pending release or interview or other news-y event.

But it'll be an interesting show, dare I say a solid one, and it'll be a great pleasure to thank Marty for "Miracles" and "Hearts" and "Share a Little Joke" and "Today" and so many others, and David for his work on "Harp Tree Lament" and the whole BVT album.  I'll have a full report next week.

I'll also have a report this weekend on the Howard Tate show.

Gaz


Joe, I'm glad you went ahead and bit the bullet & got the VIP tix, cuz that would have been my advice too. This is an opportunity you may not get again, and considering how much you love the band, you gotta dig deep and do it--no matter the outcome, you would likely regret it if you didn't.

That said, meet and greets can be a little weird, but that depends on both the fans present (how creepy they are) and the artist (some are more shy than others--see the backstage scene at GAMH with Jeff Tweedy in "I Am Trying to Break Your Heart" for a prime example of this). But since they're advertising this and opening it up to fans, I have to think the band knows what they're getting into and will be open to talking with you a bit. Go, enjoy yourself, keep your expectations in check a bit if you can, and take copious notes. I wanna hear all about it.
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Daisy Dukes...
« Reply #97 on: August 05, 2005, 08:06:30 AM »
Sounds like Dukes of Hazard isn't too good.  I'm shocked!  Shocked I tell you.

from Ebert:

Quote
Simpson plays Daisy Duke, whose short shorts became so famous on TV that they were known as "Daisy Dukes." She models them to a certain effect in a few brief scenes, but is missing from most of the movie. Maybe she isn't even smart enough to wear shorts.
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Re: Daisy Dukes...
« Reply #98 on: August 05, 2005, 08:16:05 AM »
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Sounds like Dukes of Hazard isn't too good.  I'm shocked!  Shocked I tell you.

from Ebert:

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Simpson plays Daisy Duke, whose short shorts became so famous on TV that they were known as "Daisy Dukes." She models them to a certain effect in a few brief scenes, but is missing from most of the movie. Maybe she isn't even smart enough to wear shorts.


and yet Owen Gleiberman in EW gave it a B+ ?!?

apparently Ms Simpson was interviewed last week and they asked her what she thought of Lance Armstrong... and she had NO IDEA who  he was.
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Re: Daisy Dukes...
« Reply #99 on: August 05, 2005, 08:20:07 AM »
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Quote from: "Rod"
Sounds like Dukes of Hazard isn't too good.  I'm shocked!  Shocked I tell you.

from Ebert:

Quote
Simpson plays Daisy Duke, whose short shorts became so famous on TV that they were known as "Daisy Dukes." She models them to a certain effect in a few brief scenes, but is missing from most of the movie. Maybe she isn't even smart enough to wear shorts.


and yet Owen Gleiberman in EW gave it a B+ ?!?

apparently Ms Simpson was interviewed last week and they asked her what she thought of Lance Armstrong... and she had NO IDEA who  he was.


BTW, this somehow got in the wrong thread.  Evidentally, I'm not smart enough to wear Daisy Dukes either.

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Re: Daisy Dukes...
« Reply #100 on: August 05, 2005, 09:14:49 AM »
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Quote from: "Rod"
Sounds like Dukes of Hazard isn't too good.  I'm shocked!  Shocked I tell you.

from Ebert:

Quote
Simpson plays Daisy Duke, whose short shorts became so famous on TV that they were known as "Daisy Dukes." She models them to a certain effect in a few brief scenes, but is missing from most of the movie. Maybe she isn't even smart enough to wear shorts.


and yet Owen Gleiberman in EW gave it a B+ ?!?

apparently Ms Simpson was interviewed last week and they asked her what she thought of Lance Armstrong... and she had NO IDEA who  he was.


Somewhere recently I saw a thing on athlete recognition, and the top three were Michael 95%, Lance 93% and Tiger 92%.  And this was not just USA, but like all developed countries.

ETA:  Not that I ever would have anyway, but now I SO don't feel bad for being able to say that I have never seen or heard anything Jessica, Ashlee (or Nick) have done. Period.  My only exposure to them is from tabloid magazine covers in the checkout line & hearing other people talk about them.

Oh wait, I did see Nick on TV during the NCAA Tournament as he is a big U of Cincinnati alum/fan & CBS kept panning to him during the game.  Does that count?
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Re: Daisy Dukes...
« Reply #101 on: August 05, 2005, 11:14:01 AM »
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Sounds like Dukes of Hazard isn't too good.  I'm shocked!  Shocked I tell you.

from Ebert:

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Simpson plays Daisy Duke, whose short shorts became so famous on TV that they were known as "Daisy Dukes." She models them to a certain effect in a few brief scenes, but is missing from most of the movie. Maybe she isn't even smart enough to wear shorts.


Ebert & LaSalle are 2 of the 15 critics on Yahoo! Movies, and LaSalle said it's the worst film of the 21st century (needless to say the Chron "Little Man" is missing from his seat).  The best review of the 15 was a C+, and the nicest thing the reviewer could say is "Jessica Simpson...is not nearly as embarrassing as one might have expected."
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« Reply #102 on: August 05, 2005, 10:27:20 PM »
I saw Howard Tate tonight at Joe's Pub, on the invitation of his manager, who'd liked my review of his "Rediscovered" album at AMG.  He was debuting material for what is planned to be his new album in January or February.  I arrived 20 minutes late (was copy editing at the Voice) and so missed a cover of the Carpenters' "Close to You."  (Intriguing choice.)  Caught two Randy Newman-penned ballads, one apparently titled "They're Trying to Wash Us Away" and one definitely titled "Every Time It Rains."  Solid stuff.  He then did some of his older material -- mostly the bluesier stuff, as he had only a pianist and upright bassist backing him, no horns.  Only a handful of his trademark falsettos, but in his lower range he had strong voice and phrasing.

Afterwards I talked to Howard for about 10 minutes.  We shared some observations on the challenges of getting press coverage and store placement.  I wanted to flirt with his pianist, but it seemed bad form while in press mode.

Will be curious to see if he gets any press this time 'round.

Reporting live from Gotham,
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Re: Getting back to *concerts*, ahem ;-)
« Reply #103 on: August 06, 2005, 09:05:56 AM »
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Caught two Randy Newman-penned ballads, one apparently titled "They're Trying to Wash Us Away" and one definitely titled "Every Time It Rains."  Solid stuff.


The former is almost certainly "Louisiana 1927" from Good Ol' Boys--a great tune and a song I always associate with my first trip to New Orleans.

What has happened down here is the wind have changed
Clouds roll in from the north and it started to rain
Rained real hard and rained for a real long time
Six feet of water in the streets of Evangeline

The river rose all day
The river rose all night
Some people got lost in the flood
Some people got away alright
The river have busted through cleard down to Plaquemines
Six feet of water in the streets of Evangelne

CHORUS
Louisiana, Louisiana
They're tyrin' to wash us away
They're tryin' to wash us away
Louisiana, Louisiana
They're tryin' to wash us away
They're tryin' to wash us away

President Coolidge came down in a railroad train
With a little fat man with a note-pad in his hand
The President say, "Little fat man isn't it a shame what the river has
done
To this poor crackers land."

CHORUS
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Re: Getting back to *concerts*, ahem ;-)
« Reply #104 on: August 06, 2005, 10:44:38 AM »
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Quote from: "Gazoo"
Caught two Randy Newman-penned ballads, one apparently titled "They're Trying to Wash Us Away" and one definitely titled "Every Time It Rains."  Solid stuff.


The former is almost certainly "Louisiana 1927" from Good Ol' Boys--a great tune and a song I always associate with my first trip to New Orleans.


Good catch, urth -- it was on the tip o' my tongue, I swear.  And I'd add that (IMHO) Good Old Boys is one of THE great concept albums of the '70s, if not of all time. Genius.

Gaz, are you sure the other tune wasn't "I Think It's Going to Rain Today"? One of Randy's most-covered tunes (he does like to write about rain, doesn't he?).

ETA: a little Googling reveals it is indeed "Every Time It Rains."  From his 1999 CD Bad Love Been covered by Joe Cocker among others.
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